Most people, sadly are misinformed about gun safety. There are 4 rules that if you follow almost nothing can go wrong. All guns are always loaded, never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy, keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target, be sure of your target. Seriously if you are to follow these rules along with some common sense I guarantee you nothing will go wrong. Unless you're a dumbass.
If guns are legal in a country, then they should be taught as part of the curriculum. According to one study 20,000 US children are harmed every year, unintentionally, by guns kept at home- 900 of which are fatal.
If the US is so keen to promote its Second Amendment Rights, it starts in the classroom. For every child.
Solid video! I was taught safe handeling and use of firearms at a very early age and practive these safety acts even today. Keep it up, great message and great video!
@wcresponder: First rmcdaniel423 points out your ignorance, then you trump it by showing your arrogance. Your lack of logic is strong, no where in this video did Katey say ANYTHING about "every house armed". Regardless of how Katey, rmcdaniel423, me, or even you feel about "every house armed", it still is not the point of this video. Straw arguments are always a tool of people that know they are wrong. If they weren't wrong, they wouldn't do it.
and yet there are still deaths from drinking and driving..... and look at the youth pregnacy rates. What a crock, katie. oh yeah those that handle guns never have miss haps or act irresponsible.
@wcresponder Your comment shows you have ignorantly missed the point of her message. She does not imply that there are "never" mishaps or irresponsible people. That's a stupid strawman remark. She simply says that people benefit from education in general, and that people who are educated about firearms are less likely to be hurt by them. What part of that do you disagree with? Are suggesting that people should NOT be educated about firearm safety?
@rmcdaniel423 I have not missed the point of katy's lecture. she wants every house to be armed, just watch the rest of the videos they basically scream it. I'm not against informing people but to do it in a fear mongering way is wrong.
@wcresponder You are not. I know because I watched the video and listened. She and I have rights and are weary of people trying to steal them, especially by fear-mongering liars who, themselves, fear people who can and will defend themselves.
I must agree. I taught my children from an early age about firearms and safe use of firearms. I can leave a handgun on the kitchen table and my kids will walk by it and not even give if a second look. There is no 'fascination' with them, or what I call the 'forbidden fruit' syndrome. My kids know full well what a firearm is capable of. They know how to handle weapons and they know when it's proper to do so. This is much better than any idiot playing with any weapon.
Katey while I like you - I must admit my opinion is polar opposites with you on this issue.
I see no redeeming values in letting a child handle a weapon -
That is akin to letting a child drive a motorized vehicle - it is just an accident waiting to happen and ask many insurance companies - they are living proof that adults should only be legally handling guns, cars, drugs, and smokes.
Legal driving age in most provinces is 16. A 16 year old is a child.
There is nothing wrong with teaching children responsibility at a young age. Maybe if more people were exposed to firearms, there wouldn't be so many people with an irrational fear of them.
Besides, children start learning about good driving habits long before they are allowed to drive. Being a passenger children learn red light means stop, green light means go etc. Firearm safety is no different.
the problem with teaching children how to handle guns, is children are not capable of thinking correctly until they reach a certain age...and many never reach that age... so be sure the person your teaching to use a gun, isnt careless or unreasonable
I grew up with guns. Have a picture of myself in the crook of my Grandfather's arms, him holding the rifle, and me pulling the trigger.
We learned from birth that EVERY gun is ALWAYS loaded. You NEVER point the gun at anything you do not intend to destroy or kill. And EVERY gun is deadly, from a BB to a nitro-express.
As a result, in a tremendous family including hundreds of cousins we have never had any kind of a gun accident or death, despite the fact we hunt and target shoot a lot.
AND I carry a loaded pistol daily and have for over 20 years. No accidents, because I very methodically handle the weapon & treat it with the absolute respect due a dangerous tool like that.
The point is dump's life is ruled by fear. He would prefer utter security and safety to a free society.
The rest of us understand that freedom is a two edged blade. Every right, has its attendant dangers. The right to drink > disease & misbehavior related to alcohol. The privilege of choosing your own diet, despite the fact that several hundreds of thousands of Americans die preventable deaths every year due to their diet.
Fat is more dangerous than guns, and fat doesn't protect us
from being dominated by some vicious minority, as were the Germans, the Italians, the Russians, the French, virtually all of Europe.
History's lesson is clear. And unarmed society invites domination by those willing to ignore the rules (or change them, as dump would like, to suit their agenda).
The fact is that dump has a huge inferiority complex. Read his screen name. It is written all over every single one of his posts.
He hates the USA, and his "advice" is the road to losing our rights.
Forbidding people to drive cars would mean fewer auto-related deaths. And yet we don't do that.
Dump is here to try to convince us to give up our rights. You have to wonder why. Was it his ancestors that convinced the citizens of Germany to give up their guns in the early 30's?
Why don't you ask the Jews & innocents of Germany how that worked out for them? And the citizens of France, begging us to drop weapons for their resistance? And the citizens of Iran, under the boot of the mullahs?
He wants to convince us to give up our rights. Why don't you ask the Jews of Germany & the innocent civilians murdered and dominated by a vicious minority about how that worked out for them. And the French. Ask them about their experience after the German invasion, when they were begging us to drop them guns to arm their people.
Ask Neda, in Iran, about it. Of course you cannot. She is dead.
dump's inferiority complex is truly epic. He is desperate for us to give up our rights. Why, I can't imagine, since he lives in Canada.
Trying to scare us with how dangerous guns are. Ignoring how pivotal they are to what America is. Yes, innocent people die because of our right to bear arms. It is a price we are willing to pay.
More people die in cars every year, than are killed by guns, and we accept that price as part of our society. And cars are designed NOT to kill... Ironic.
We don't live in fear. That is why we are not interested in giving up our rights. You keep trying to scare us about guns, when we know they are no different than any other machine or tool.
You want to scare us about the allegedly horrible toll our rights cost us. Whatever lives are lost are the price of liberty. We are willing to bear that cost.
@usaisadump My brother put a nasty hole in his forehead when a claw hammer bounced on a board. The board was fine, no patch required. If you honestly believe that every errant shot fired causes a death, you really need to start reading while the hype-drunk newsfolks and other socialists are repeating their scripted tirades.
Yes, guns' purpose is different from most other tools.That's why liberals fear them. Not simply because they can be deadly, but because they are efficient for self-defense.
You imply that guns are "no different than any other machine or tool." I'm telling you that guns are very different than other machines and tools. Guns are extremely dangerous. When a child makes a mistake with a hammer, you repair the dent in the drywall. When a child makes a mistake with a handgun, you still need to replace that same section of drywall...or maybe you can just paint over the stain. When the time comes, you make your repairs, I'll make mine. The only difference is a funeral.
@usaisadump " When a child makes a mistake with a hammer, you repair the dent in the drywall." What if that child "makes a mistake with a hammer" against the skull of another child? You are so beneath intelligent debate.
We are looking for as many anti-gun liberals as possible to sail to the Sea of Japan off the North Korean coast To protest weapons. Get your boats and signs ready and be there June 12th, 2009! Join the peace party.
In College Park, Georgia 10 ppl gathered at a birthday party when 2 guys broke in. As the thugs were counting their bullets to make sure they had enough to kill everyone, 1 of the victims reached in his backpack and took out his own gun. 1 perp ran and the second perp was shot as he was getting ready to rape one of the girls. He jump out the window and died. The CDC will consider his death as part of the gun violence. And if he was under 20 than he will be counted as a child. That is reality.
10 innocent people are alive because one was able to defend them. A gun ban would not take the guns out of the hands of the criminals, they didn't have theirs legally.
Someone's daughter did not get raped because one young man defended her.
I live in a wonderful country where I don't feel the need to take a pistol to my friend's birthday party. You somehow think your system is better just because a "perp" is dead. Remember this: he wasn't always a "perp." Just before he was handed his first illegal gun, he was a normal kid like you and I both once were. Your country has many guns and many gun deaths. My country has less guns and less gun deaths. When will you wake up and realize...you simply have no argument. Guns are for killing.
Hey Dumpy, Here is an idea for you. Since you like to protest guns and violence. Make yourself a sign, get yourself a boat, float on over to the Yellow Sea or the Sea of Japan, right off the North Korean coast and protest there for a while. They got some real bad guns over there.
"I have 3 in my garage and 1 or 2 in my home" (buckets)
Growing up we had a few dozen shotguns, couple of dozen rifles, several pistols with 7 people in the household. And in that time there was not a single unintended discharge of a weapon, and no injuries.
I have had a pistol in the small of my back since I turned 18 (over a decade ago), and in that time, never has that pistol hauled off and discharged itself.
Perhaps YOU are not a responsible person & that is why you shouldn't have a gun.
If every household was responsible like yours then gun death would not be an issue (with me, at least). If USA was able to educate their citizens, and in doing so prevent gun death, then I'd have no problem with your desire to maintain households brimming with guns. The fact is that the USA has not been able to educate itself on such matters. Every year more innocent people die. More innocent people turn to crime. More American birthday parties erupt in gunfire...(see comments above). Sad.
And why can't we educate our citizens and our children?
Because of fear mongers like you.
And as far as your last post, "he was a normal kid like you and I"...
Not hardly! I was taught Thou Shall not Steal. Thou Shall not commit Murder. Thou Shall not Covet. Thou Shall not commit Adultery (rape).
Which one of these was this animal thinking of upholding when he broke into that apartment? That kid was not murdered, he was put down like the animal that he became deserved.
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Bringing religion into this? Please, don't make the debate any easier for me than it already is (i.e. god's the worst murderer in the history of the world). If you believe all that religious crap then you're forced to accept that if a criminal rapes and kills your mother, then it was simply "gods will." If you kill the perpetrator yourself, that's a sin on your record just like all the sins on his. No matter really, because god is imaginary. Your belief only solidifies your image as uninformed.
Bringing religion into this? Please, don't make the debate any easier for me than it already is (i.e. god's the worst murderer in the history of the world). If you believe all that religious crap then you're forced to accept that if a criminal rapes and kills your mother, then it was simply "gods will." If you kill the perpetrator yourself, that's a sin on your record just like all the sins on his. No matter really, because god is imaginary. Your belief only solidifies your image as uninformed.
@usaisadump Commenting after 2 years? Wow you are either some hard-up troll or you just got out of jail. We get it already. You don't like guns. You live in fear. You have control issues. You don't like the USA or our Constitution. When the economy collapses and someone comes to take your food away (if you even have any) remember, resistance is futile. Be the giving atheist that you are with the highest of compassion for others, because others are more important than your family.
"I want to know, because my kid owns a pair." You have procreated!? We may have to re-examine evolution.
"And plastic buckets; how many were used in the commission of a murder in 2008." And that is what is so insidious about them... despite the fact they are not used for murder, they STILL kill more people EVERY YEAR than guns!!!!
Those things are damn deadly! It is time to start requiring all buckets be registered!
Really what it comes down to is dump hates the US because he has an inferiority complex.
What the source of that problem is, is a mystery because Canada really is a nice country. But something about the USA obviously makes him fell like he showed up in the locker room
"leave the statistical portion of the gun control debate to the adults"
Yeah the adults who know that alchohol, cars, plastic bags, knives, stairs, the flu, plastic paint buckets, and bicycles all cause more annual deaths than guns.
The key point is for some reason usaisadump wants us to give up our rights. Why is it he would want the US population to voluntarily disarm itself & sacrifice our constitutional rights?
Don't know, don't care. His attitude about the US is obviously an inferiority complex. And we anger him by our stubborn defense of our rights
If he wants to change the US constitution, he is free to emigrate, become a citizen & vote for candidates to change our constitution legally
People like dump, who cannot understand the nature of rights are angry over our form of government. Despite this, we will keep him safe. Like sheepdogs among the sheep.
He is free to baaaaaaaa on.
Rights do have prices. The price of our right to be armed is some level of needless death. The price of our right to free speech is people like dump.
The upside of our rights is the greatest level of freedom and personal responsibility enjoyed in the world.
dump is eager for us to give up our rights. I wonder why. I suppose he thinks an unarmed populace would be easier for the government to dominate & for criminals to victimize.
His attitude is the surest sign that our exercising our rights is the right thing to do.
In the history of my family in the US, we have never had a single injury from a firearm, much less a death, despite having dozens of guns easily available.
I guess that is because we are responsible, intelligent citizens.
Yeah, I agree. The 2,800 children and 50+ toddlers killed by gunfire yearly in the USA are "untrained." If you won't get rid of your guns, CAN YOU PLEASE HUSTLE WITH THE FCKING TRAINING THAT Y'ALL KEEP YAPPING ABOUT! Thanks.
The key point is for some reason usaisadump wants us to give up our rights. Why is it he would want the US population to voluntarily disarm itself & sacrifice our constitutional rights?
Don't know, don't care. His attitude about the US is obviously an inferiority complex. And we anger him by our stubborn defense of our rights
If he wants to change the US constitution, he is free to emigrate, become a citizen & vote for candidates to change our constitution legally
You posted this then you copied and recycled it twice for a total of three appearances in this forum. You've done this with a number of your posts. I don't understand why. Can you not think of any new rationalizations for the needless deaths of your 30,000 countrymen? Please don't wait for me to move to your country in some crazy attempt to fix it for you. That kind of change takes ten lifetimes. But you can start the ball rolling by voting for a government who will dry up your sea of guns.
If you insist on idiotic comparisons such as guns vs. plastic buckets and rollerskates, please include all the data. Tell us how many people were murdered with a rollerskate last year. I want to know, because my kid owns a pair. And plastic buckets; how many were used in the commission of a murder in 2008. I have 3 in my garage and 1 or 2 in my home, so your input on their dangers is critical. Don't worry though, in the meantime I've registered my kids for summer "plastic bucket safety courses."
People like dump, who cannot understand the nature of rights are angry over our form of government. Despite this, we will keep him safe. Like sheepdogs among the sheep.
He is free to baaaaaaaa on.
Rights do have prices. The price of our right to be armed is some level of needless death. The price of our right to free speech is people like dump.
The upside of our rights is the greatest level of freedom and personal responsibility enjoyed in the world.
dump is eager for us to give up our rights. I wonder why. I suppose he thinks an unarmed populace would be easier for the government to dominate & for criminals to victimize.
His attitude is the surest sign that our exercising our rights is the right thing to do.
In the history of my family in the US, we have never had a single injury from a firearm, much less a death, despite having dozens of guns easily available.
I guess that is because we are responsible, intelligent citizens.
The key point is for some reason usaisadump wants us to give up our rights. Why is it he would want the US population to voluntarily disarm itself & sacrifice our constitutional rights?
Don't know, don't care. His attitude about the US is obviously an inferiority complex. And we anger him by our stubborn defense of our rights
If he wants to change the US constitution, he is free to emigrate, become a citizen & vote for candidates to change our constitution legally
In your posts, I'm always "he" and you refer to yourself as "us." Cute how you create this feeling of giving a speech to school chums who have gathered "around" you online. Why not go 1 on 1? Because you're no speech writer, doc. And that reminds me. How many gunshot victims in "Atlanta and surrounding area" in the last 24 hrs? Were you busy out there doin' your best George Clooney impression? Pluckin' out the slugs 'n' sewin' up the thugs? Tell us, George...were you the hero at work yesterday?
People like dump, who cannot understand the nature of rights are angry over our form of government. Despite this, we will keep him safe. Like sheepdogs among the sheep.
He is free to baaaaaaaa on.
Rights do have prices. The price of our right to be armed is some level of needless death. The price of our right to free speech is people like dump.
The upside of our rights is the greatest level of freedom and personal responsibility enjoyed in the world.
dump is eager for us to give up our rights. I wonder why. I suppose he thinks an unarmed populace would be easier for the government to dominate & for criminals to victimize.
His attitude is the surest sign that our exercising our rights is the right thing to do.
In the history of my family in the US, we have never had a single injury from a firearm, much less a death, despite having dozens of guns easily available.
I guess that is because we are responsible, intelligent citizens.
Vacation yes, but I could never move there. Who would ever freely choose to live somewhere that requires a handgun for home protection? It's just unsafe. Like I keep saying, 30,000 deaths a year from guns? Sorry. Too many bullets flying around your country to raise a family. Sooner or later a friend or loved one will be killed. It's just not worth it. I already live in a safer, cleaner place with better education, less drugs, free health care and a higher level of personal rights and freedoms.
The key point is for some reason usaisadump wants us to give up our rights. Why is it he would want the US population to voluntarily disarm itself & sacrifice our constitutional rights?
Don't know, don't care. His attitude about the US is obviously an inferiority complex. And we anger him by our stubborn defense of our rights
If he wants to change the US constitution, he is free to emigrate, become a citizen & vote for candidates to change our constitution legally
Gunfire kills about 30,000 yankers/yr. Some are accidents, some not. Either way, the victims are equally dead. Data for extremely common items and occurrences cannot be compared 1:1 with gun death. You must factor in their more common use before comparing the death they cause. i.e. the general population spend countless more hours in cars and on bicycles than handling guns. The same could be said about handling anthrax or nitroglycerin. The comparison just isn't significant. Ask a stats prof.
Statistically those "yankers" that are getting killed are illegals, drug dealers and gang bangers or the offspring of said, Good Riddance! But you would be hard pressed to get that out of the CDC or the Brady Bunch. I don't have to give you sources in you are so easily deceived by the global nazis that you couldn't recognize the truth. I bet you don't even believe in God, do you?
Have you any idea of what is written in prophecies? It is all coming true.
You don't get the big picture. Without guns in the 1st place, you wouldn't have rampant criminal behaviour. Your "Good Riddance" attitude; it's absolutely vile. That's the difference between you and others of the world who all want to improve it. You're content letting punks shoot themselves with guns while the rest of us want to solve the problem so no one has to die. Then you refer to "nazis" with a negative connotation. Would they feel differently than you re: gangs, druggies & criminals? No.
dump is eager for us to give up our rights. I wonder why. I suppose he thinks an unarmed populace would be easier for the government to dominate & for criminals to victimize.
His attitude is the surest sign that our exercising our rights is the right thing to do.
In the history of my family in the US, we have never had a single injury from a firearm, much less a death, despite having dozens of guns easily available.
I guess that is because we are responsible, intelligent citizens.
People like dump, who cannot understand the nature of rights are angry over our form of government. Despite this, we will keep him safe. Like sheepdogs among the sheep.
He is free to baaaaaaaa on.
Rights do have prices. The price of our right to be armed is some level of needless death. The price of our right to free speech is people like dump.
The upside of our rights is the greatest level of freedom and personal responsibility enjoyed in the world.
As far as your beloved and bountiful "rights" and "freedoms" are concerned, I would be very impressed with your 8th place ranking in the "State of World Liberty Index." However Canada ranks 3rd in the world so, tough luck. AGAIN! Look it up and read about what it measures. I understand that your schools teach you that you've got the highest level of freedom in the world, but it's simply not true. Don't forget, these are the same schools that people like Miss Teen South Carolina attend...such as.
And the numbers from the Brady Nut camp are even higher. Yet mysteriously these children that are getting shot and die don't make it on the news. If a child gets shot in another state we hear about it.. Why not check out the rates for all the individual states and get back to us.
LOL, seriously? You believe the anti-gun liberal views of the CDC? How ignorant. They do have an agenda, which is disarming Americans. Their numbers are falsely inflated, if someone there could produce the actual names of these so called "children" that have been shot to death to prove their numbers, but they won't (claiming protecting a minor) because they would not have enough names to meet their claim. And there are more people with guns than the government knows about. You are no expert.
Yes, I do believe the CDC. But I'm willing to look at your data. Do you have it yet? Post it and name the source. Remember that it's total gun death that we're talking about. Not murder, not accidental, not suicide. Total gun death. I'm saying it's close to 30,000 per year with 2800-3000 of those aged 19yrs and under. You say it's lower. So how much lower? And says who? Y'all keep crying "liberal" and "inflated" and "liar" but you can't name any real sources so far like I have, over and over.
Automobiles kill more children in this country than guns do by a long shot. Maybe we should get rid of them as well. At least that is the "Dumpster's"line of thinking.
Cars kill dude, they are way more dangerous than guns.
You're trying to act like a statistician but you're not THINKING like one. Still I'll play your game. It's juvenile and bordering on idiocy, but if you insist on comparing autos to guns you must take the relatively small amount of time spent by people handling guns and compare it to the ENORMOUS amount of time they spend in autos. You'd soon find that if people died at the same rate from auto use as they do from gun use, the entire USA population would be wiped out in short order.
Also, I know that many Americans choke to death while eating. It happens at breakfast, lunch, dinner and all times in between. It's a tragedy for men, women, children, newborns, black people, white people, purple people (I didn't want to leave out the unfortunate folks who are actually currently choking as I type this out). Please tell me that you don't need an explanation as to why we shouldn't ban all non-intravenous food nationwide. Any other ridiculous comparisons you'd like to add?
Did you know that not all the information you get from the internet is accurate?
Did you know that even snopes is not accurate?
Your stats on children killed by guns are not accurate. I don't know where you are getting your info, you could just be making it up as you go along which would explain a lot.
Most every stat I've ever quoted has a ref. in at least one post. If you have different data, post it. I'm here to learn. I assure you, I make nothing up. What purpose would that serve? The child death figure I approximated was from a study that used The American CDC's 2003 data. The actual total child deaths was 2827 for ages 0-19. Now you go out, find your data from your source and let's compare their credibility to the USA's Center for Disease Control. Happy hunting!
My use of the word "pray" has nothing whatsoever to do with any form of religion. So, to the 78+% of American Christians who say that God exists - I say ---- fossils and radiocarbon dating exist, and there just ain't room enough at the table for all three of those. Sorry, "god." And freedom of speech? Nah. If you incite hate through your speech, then into the can you go. (i.e. the KKK is unwelcome here) If my government starts mishandling their powers, I trust my country to elect a fairer one.
@usaisadump It requires a bit more intelligence to understand that there must be a creator than to grasp Carbon-14's half life and remnant proportion, which varies with sunlight and other background radiation. Even blindly assuming no change in the radioactive field, the process is useless after about 50,000 years. You say God doesn't exist because fossils do? I would love for you to explain that logically. I am quite comfortable with "all three" .
People like dump, who cannot understand the nature of rights are angry over our form of government. Despite this, we will keep him safe. Like sheepdogs among the sheep.
He is free to baaaaaaaa on.
Rights do have prices. The price of our right to be armed is some level of needless death. The price of our right to free speech is people like dump.
The upside of our rights is the greatest level of freedom and personal responsibility enjoyed in the world.
Now you're talkin'! But forget the sheep part. We've been through that. Canada doesn't need your help. Please go away. Hanging out with USA is like wearing a tinfoil hat in a lightning storm. But the rest makes sense. USA is content to endure collateral damage to its citizens, from toddlers to the elderly, in order to keep the silly right to store handguns in their sock drawers! And free speech means others may mock you with the facts on the unnecessary death you've allowed to occur for years!
dump is eager for us to give up our rights. I wonder why. I suppose he thinks an unarmed populace would be easier for the government to dominate & for criminals to victimize.
His attitude is the surest sign that our exercising our rights is the right thing to do.
In the history of my family in the US, we have never had a single injury from a firearm, much less a death, despite having dozens of guns easily available.
I guess that is because we are responsible, intelligent citizens.
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I've lasted 41+ years so far in "unprotected" houses. My entire country is "unprotected" by handguns. Yet, it has less gun crime than USA. If you melt down your guns and then all of a sudden some other weapon appears on the scene that's killing 30,000+ citizens annually, wouldn't you want to deal with that too? I don't even lock my doors. I don't need to. And the way you refer to unarmed homeowners (by default) as "victims"...that speaks volumes about the environment in which you were raised.
The 2nd Ammendment which the Yanks have is not there for criminal deterrent, nor hunting and sport. It's there because each and every one of them is the first and the last line of defence for their nation, both from internal and external threats, and with whatever armament the militia man can physically carry.
Sadly Canada lacks this concept, especially with the threats that face us in this world, both internal and external. From the US, the RF, our own politicians, etc.
"Sadly"? We're not the ones with the gun death epidemic. You are! Don't be sad for Canada. We don't shoot each other at a rate of more than 80 deaths per day like y'all. Think about that. The USA has as much gun death in 2 weeks as the totals for Canada and the UK for an ENTIRE CALENDAR YEAR, COMBINED! And you have the nerve to feel sad for us? Keep on fearing your internal and external "threats" and your politicians. Just leave us out of it. We're peaceful and safe and want no part of you.
If we're so peaceful, why the need to take civilian firearms?
You want to know why I'm sad for Canada, my own homeland? I'm sad because I'm not one of "those" Canadians who prides themselves in ignorance and escapism. I'm sad because I see my fellow citizens trying to disarm us for a false sense of security. I'm sad because the same shit that happened to every line of my ethnic makeup would happen without opposition if you had your way.
You are the "internal threat" to my beloved Dominion.
"false sense of security"? Fine. I say that I feel secure in my country without a gun in my sock drawer. You say that I'm wrong to feel secure; that my feeling of security is "false." So I ask (in the spirit of Mr. Gooding): show me the death! Where is it? Show it to me. Give me the names of 55 Canadian and UK toddlers killed by gunfire last yr. Give me the names of 2,800 children and 27,000+ adults. You cannot, of course, because they don't exist. My sense of security is TRUE. Sorry, dummy.
Your "beloved Dominion" has left you behind; moved on without you. If you behave the way you wish with your handguns and assault rifles, your "beloved Dominion" will put you in jail for a long, long time. Thankfully, the Dominion of Canada is a democracy. Citizens like me are able to vote people like you right down the drain into the USA. Go ahead and try to promote a "pro gun" candidate into a Canadian leadership role. Pick a party, any party. Lib, Consv, NDP, Commies, Pot, whatever. YOU LOSE!
I already explained my source for Atlanta's population data. Don't complain to me. Originally, I never quoted the higher population of "Metro" Atlanta or "Atlanta and surrounding Region" You know I was correct in what I said. You were mistaken in your criticism. No foul. I understand. Now leave it alone. Cut your loss and embarrassment.
usaisadump is the same person as USArCOWARDS, and he is about as Canadian as Obama.
He is seriously sad individual who literally spends all day every day trolling on YT. Who knows what his agenda is, but the main thing he seems to be interested in doing is saying insulting things about the US.
dump has a serious inferiority complex & is working that out trying to talk us out of our rights... pathetic.
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And please quit with this emergency room doctor charade. It's a joke. I pray for the poor, broke, crack addicted, homeless gunshot victims of Atlanta (and surrounding area) that it's a joke. Sorry, dummy.
I am an ER doc in Atlanta. For a long time, central Atlanta had gone downhill hard as people with education & wealth moved to rural subdivisions. In the last 10 years, that worm has turned, and many people are moving back.
There have always been pockets of nice neighborhoods, but now they are expanding again. I bought a house on Ponce De Leon toward downtown (which anyone who knows Atlanta knows has some VERY nice neighborhoods bordered by ghettos).
(cont) of some of the rougher neighborhoods (Cynthia McKinney's district...). We got together with the longer term residents & the professionals moving back into the area & made an agreement that ALL the houses in the area would have signs "protected by S&W."
The criminal element kicked back one time, vandalizing some cameras, and then rolled over and scattered like the cockroaches they are.
Only had 1 breakin in the last 10 years, and the homeowner called 911, and us, her neighbors (2)
(2) Within minutes she had a dozen neighbors armed with everything from 12 guages to 22 target pistols with dogs in her yard, and she was able to exit the house safely. The perp was trapped in the house fearing for his life (with good reason) until the cops came to save him from us.
No repeat business & the word got around, and the crime ridden neighborhoods were pushed back. Even the poorer neighbors benefited from the new environment of 0 tolerance for crime.
"Atlanta (pop. 430,000)" Good grief you are a fucking idiot. You are off by more than an order of magnitude.
Population 5 million, as of 2007. The rest of your information is similalry wrong (code for bullshit you just make up).
You are nothing but a troll. You are welcome to your opinion, but we are going to protect our rights thank you. And the 2nd amendment gives us the right to be armed.
usaisadump is the same person as USArCOWARDS, and he is about as Canadian as Obama.
He is seriously sad individual who literally spends all day every day trolling on YT. Who knows what his agenda is, but the main thing he seems to be interested in doing is saying insulting things about the US.
Conotoxin prolly has it correct. It is an inferiority complex working itself out.
I busy posting facts while y'all make personal attacks and name call. I enjoy debating the gun death issue. It's amusing to me that some people can stare at the numbers and then simply ignore them...then come back with the same old "2nd Amendment", "cold dead hand", "Vermont is so safe" "I'll protect me and mine" CRAP! Look around you, America. You are killing each other with guns. No country on Earth has more gun death than you. Enjoy that dish with your side order of silly "rights." (no pun)
I find it extremely difficult to believe that a person can pass medical school in the USA without ever learning the meaning and proper usage of the term "literally." Sorry, dummy..er...Dr. Dummy.
I am an ER doc in Atlanta. For a long time, central Atlanta had gone downhill hard as people with education & wealth moved to rural subdivisions. In the last 10 years, that worm has turned, and many people are moving back.
There have always been pockets of nice neighborhoods, but now they are expanding again. I bought a house on Ponce De Leon toward downtown (which anyone who knows Atlanta knows has some VERY nice neighborhoods bordered by ghettos).
(cont) of some of the rougher neighborhoods (Cynthia McKinney's district...). We got together with the longer term residents & the professionals moving back into the area & made an agreement that ALL the houses in the area would have signs "protected by S&W."
The criminal element kicked back one time, vandalizing some cameras, and then rolled over and scattered like the cockroaches they are.
Only had 1 breakin in the last 10 years, and the homeowner called 911, and us, her neighbors (2)
(2) Within minutes she had a dozen neighbors armed with everything from 12 guages to 22 target pistols with dogs in her yard, and she was able to exit the house safely. The perp was trapped in the house fearing for his life (with good reason) until the cops came to save him from us.
No repeat business & the word got around, and the crime ridden neighborhoods were pushed back. Even the poorer neighbors benefited from the new environment of 0 tolerance for crime.
"Atlanta (pop. 430,000)" Good grief you are a fucking idiot. You are off by more than an order of magnitude.
Population 5 million, as of 2007. The rest of your information is similalry wrong (code for bullshit you just make up).
You are nothing but a troll. You are welcome to your opinion, but we are going to protect our rights thank you. And the 2nd amendment gives us the right to be armed.
I did more looking around. Search online for the "city" of Atlanta-it has a population between 350,000 and mid 500's, depending on the year and source. One site that looked credible to me listed 430K, so that's what I went with in my post. Your 5 million figure is not for the city of Atlanta. It's for the city plus the metro area surrounding Atlanta. You also said that the rest of my info was wrong. Prove it or accept it. USA=30,000 gun deaths/yr Canada=1,200 (many due to smuggled US guns)
hey Dumpy, Here is a novel approach. Teach your children not to touch ANYTHING that doesn't belong to them. And if they disobey you, spank them. Make them afraid to disobey under treat of pain. Forget the Dr Spock pansies out there they have screwed the world up enough. I have seldom raised a hand to my children, only when talking and explaining don't work, but since I have, they don't disrespect other people's property. And I would never leave a gun in a dresser drawer-to be continued
or anyplace that my child would find them. Not that she would touch them in the first place.
She has a BB gun rifle and is a sharp shooter with that but has no desire to touch the serious pistols. My 21 year old is also a sharp shooter, can shoot the barrel hole of an armed target with a 357 at the range. And she would not dream of touching one of my guns w/o permission.
It is all about disciplining the children. An undisciplined child will get punished as will their parents, one way or another.
If they touch a gun that does not belong to them, maybe, as so many of you anti-God types put it, maybe they should get the Darwin award and be taken out of the gene pool.
Good for you and your kids. As responsible gun owners, you're not the problem. However, you're unable to predict others' habits. The only way to make your country safer like mine is to do what we did. Ban handguns. Only then will your death rate go down. As for your willingness to strike your kids---suit yourself. I disagree and so do most rational parents. And your thought that an innocent child who accidentally mishandles a gun deserves to be killed in the name of Darwinism... utterly sad.
Suppose your young child was accidentally killed by a schoolmate who found his dad's gun under the bed and brought it to school. Would you think that such accidents are simply collateral damage and ultimately the fair cost of your silly American freedom to "bear arms"...or would you admit that it's finally time to melt down your guns? Tell me, please. How would you feel if your child was killed in that manner and what would you do about it?
The ONLY time I heard of a little boy that brought a gun to school that he found was when he was staying with an uncle who was a crack dealer. I expect he was imitating what he saw, too, when he used it.
Please just answer the question. If YOUR child was accidentally killed by a gun which was brought to school (maybe even in Vermont) by another youngster, would you think that such accidents are simply collateral damage and ultimately the fair cost of your silly American freedom to "bear arms"...or would you admit that it's finally time to melt down your guns? How would you feel and what would you do about it? Would you just march down to the school with a dozen leaflets on gun safety? Tell us!
Why? You don't answer our questions, you just evade them. For more, see "A Story About What Gun Control Can Do" on YT by LibertyIsNotGiven (who has the patience to keep showing the holes in your poor logic).
But I'll answer despite that. I'd react much the same as if death were caused by house cleansers, pools, cars, or trampolines (which injure & kill far more than guns do--not that you care about THOSE children of course). Leaflets are possible (& I've done that before).
I am an ER doc in Atlanta. For a long time, central Atlanta had gone downhill hard as people with education & wealth moved to rural subdivisions. In the last 10 years, that worm has turned, and many people are moving back.
There have always been pockets of nice neighborhoods, but now they are expanding again. I bought a house on Ponce De Leon toward downtown (which anyone who knows Atlanta knows has some VERY nice neighborhoods bordered by ghettos).
(cont) of some of the rougher neighborhoods (Cynthia McKinney's district...). We got together with the longer term residents & the professionals moving back into the area & made an agreement that ALL the houses in the area would have signs "protected by S&W."
The criminal element kicked back one time, vandalizing some cameras, and then rolled over and scattered like the cockroaches they are.
Only had 1 breakin in the last 10 years, and the homeowner called 911, and us, her neighbors (2)
(2) Within minutes she had a dozen neighbors armed with everything from 12 guages to 22 target pistols with dogs in her yard, and she was able to exit the house safely. The perp was trapped in the house fearing for his life (with good reason) until the cops came to save him from us.
No repeat business & the word got around, and the crime ridden neighborhoods were pushed back. Even the poorer neighbors benefited from the new environment of 0 tolerance for crime.
I'm glad nobody was hurt. You are dangerous and reckless. You are an assault on the American and Canadian dream. Thankfully, your kind of mentality is slowly being assimilated by rational (Democratic) society. Okay, off you go now, back to the old Patrick Swayze film (pick one---I prefer "Next of Kin" m'self) that you call your life. Sorry, dummy.
"You are dangerous and reckless" ROFLOL, ignorance speaks.
"You are an assault on the American and Canadian dream" Americans defending their rights & their neighbors are never a threat. Indeed the reason my neighborhood is an island of calm near downtown Atlanta is thanks to our attitude & willingness to confront criminals head on.
"your kind of mentality is slowly being assimilated" My kind of mentality is the very heart of democracy.
Check the per capita gun murder and robbery rate in Atlanta (pop. 430,000) where handguns grow on trees. Then compare them with Hamilton, Ontario, Canada pop. 600,000+) where handguns are banned. Soon, you'll conclude that handguns are the problem. If you want less death, get rid of your handguns. Simple as that. You have the problem, not me. I'm just trying to help you by telling you how to solve your murder and robbery problem. If you think even more guns will help, I feel sorry for you.
Check out the murders in Russia and Mexico, with their intense gun control (in Russia, you even have to report every single bullet fired to the police, and are severely limited to what kinds of guns & ammo you can buy), and then compare to Vermont, where any adult without a felony record can buy a gun and carry it concealed without a permit. Or Switzerland where there are days every single person is carting a military rifle on the freeways.
I love Vermont. I've travelled through the lovely tree covered hills to Bolton Valley. The people are wonderful (all 620,000 of them---about 1/8 the size of the city where I currently live). But as lovely as it seems, it's NOT representative of American society. Vermont more closely resembles a hunting camp than an urban centre where the gun troubles erupt. Comparing Vermont to the rest of your country just validates the fact that your education system lacks a decent geography program.Cut it out
You say if I want less crime, get more guns? I ALREADY HAVE LESS CRIME! Read the paper, surf the net, try TV/radio. Canada has nowhere near your ridiculous handgun crime. We have no legal handguns on our streets! Get caught with one here and we place you in a box for a few years to take you down a notch. The USA is a war zone compared to Canada. You don't see it because you've lived in your little war zone all your life. Educate yourself on what's happening around you. Your schools have failed.
You just admitted guns are not the problem or cause of violence by admitting that Vermont has plenty of guns in circulation, many can & do carry concealed without a permit, and yet is one of the safest in the nation.
And you're right about how it's not like the rest of the USA in that it has none of your gun control. Too bad other states can't be the same and see a drop in their murder rate as a result.
Btw, evade everything we come up with if you must, but answer Katie's vid. :P
Please show precisely what I "admitted" by cutting and pasting it into your next post. You cannot, because I "admitted" nothing. What I am trying to say is that the reason Vermont's gun death is lower is NOT due to handgun availability. It's due to population density. NOBODY LIVES THERE! It's all trees and mountains. If you took all the ghettos out of Los Angeles and replaced them with trees and lakes and then rounded up the millions of people and shipped them to Vermont, what would happen?
Nope. Your name says it all. That and how much time you spend protesting. And you are ignorant on top of your complex. IF you are Canadian, then you are from the North American continent. An American, by defintion. Try again.
The fact is you are just a sad little troll. With a life so bereft of meaning that you spend your time here trying to pick fights.
Laughable, and very sad at the same time. Perhaps you should take up a hobby. Like target shooting.
Another reason why he doesn't want anyone to have guns is because he knows he has to behave himself. He probably hates his job as well, as he seems to have a problem with being accountable to others.
Maybe he has a neighbor that is armed and can't stand the fact he can't bully him.
usaisadump is the same person as USArCOWARDS, and he is about as Canadian as Obama.
He is seriously sad individual who literally spends all day every day trolling on YT. Who knows what his agenda is, but the main thing he seems to be interested in doing is saying insulting things about the US.
Conotoxin prolly has it correct. It is an inferiority complex working itself out.
I assure you that "USArCOWARDS" isn't me. I looked him up and have no idea who he is. As for this "inferiority" thing, sorry, doc. Canada is superior. USA is killing itself with guns. Canadians are safe on streets & at home; yankers live in fear. How can I be any more clear? Melt down your guns and MAYBE someday your family will be as safe as mine. Til then, good luck dodging bullets. And for the record, I like Obama. I wish him the best in reversing the course on which your country's been set.
I love shooting too (Para Ordnance Mod 85 9mm paint with both semi and full auto kits, Crosman pellet/BB rifles and pistols, airsoft guns plus a couple full auto paintball rifles .60 and .68 cal. And if I found out that a neighbour of mine was armed with an illegal gun, I'd do the responsible thing and see that it was put safely in the hands of the police where it belongs. My young daughters play in my neighbours' houses. The last thing I want them pulling out of a drawer is a loaded gun.
I'm amazed that you feel the need to have to suck up to guns so you won't be bullied by your neighbours. What's wrong with the police chief you elected? What's the problem with your elected District Attorney? Your US Senators? Your Congressmen? Where did your country fail you? Where I'm from, neighbours don't make a habit of bullying each other anyway. I guess we just don't need guns the way y'all do. We're CIVILIZED. Best of luck to you after you're shot by a clueless redneck "bully."
Only a few in the USA are dangerous, but it's good to be prepared against them.
Your neighbors could fill a bottle with gas and a burning rag to throw on your car or into your home. They could run you over with their car. They can stab you with knives. That they don't do these things tell me that they won't shoot you either, for the very same reason.
Instead of showing us how irrational you are, why not address the point of the video instead of making up points?
Burning rags sticking out of gas filled bottles surely are dangerous, but they don't kill 25,000+ Americans each year. If they did, you would probably stop placing burning rags into gas filled bottles...or maybe not. Maybe you would make the point that people in your precious "Vermont" don't seem to die at a very high rate due to exploding gas filled bottles, and therefore it must be safe to allow gas filled bottles all across the rest of the nation. Sound ridiculous? Yes...you are.
You're ridiculous for thinking guns turn people into murdering monsters. And ignoring that the vast majority are done by illegal guns which come from military & government sources (primarily American, Russian, & Chinese), who will kill even more if they know their prey is disarmed, as they've done in other countries. You ignore the Swiss, you focus on places that already have your "solutions" in place and offer them as a reason why your way is right.
You're done? Heh. You're goddamned right you're done. Across the globe, USA ranks #1 in gun death per capita with their silly laws. Switzerland is #3 with theirs. Both disgraceful! Once the USA melts down all its guns, they can begin enjoying lower numbers in all these death studies. (and Canada's #'s will benefit too...as most of our illegal guns come from you know where). Til then, bury your dead. They're stinkin' up the joint. Sorry, dummy.
Sure. That's a marvelous solution. Put a gun in every potential victim's hand. HEY!!!!! Why not take it a step further. Let's give EVERY adult in the world a handgun!!!!!!!! Yeah, that's the ticket. Let's put a gun in every glovebox and every sock drawer. We'll put 'em under every pillow and in every sportcoat pocket. That will take care of the global murder rate. Jeez. That was easy. Why didn't I think of this before? Dang.
Are you out of your mind? I'm delighted, proud and extremely relieved to be Canadian. Inferiority complex? Absurd. When I meet someone from a foreign land, the first order of business is to establish the fact that I'm NOT American. This is not because I think all y'all are superior. Get it? Good. As for your ridiculous need for "rights" to carry handguns, which in the wrong hands could harm my young family; terribly sad. And the only extent to which I'll go to run your life: my vote.
Look at Nazi Germany, how Hitler disarmed civilians and created a youth task force, and then remind the Jews how safe they were in 1938. How being defenseless was in their best interest.
Think it can't happen again? You can be the first one on the train.
History repeats itself over and over.
I don't keep a gun where it could be found by either a child or a criminal or the government so my guns are safe. If you choose to be defenseless, good luck with that.
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Elect a trusted government, well funded and armed. Sense trouble? Vote them from office. You compare Hitler to Brown? Harper? Obama? Please, no nazi references when addressing those who seek to maintain peace for your benefit. A gun in a glove box is not going to stave off the next Hitler. However, the aptitude of voters in more highly educated countries ("such as in South Africa and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere,like, such as"...hehe...just kidding) such as Canada and UK may just do the trick.
Most people, sadly are misinformed about gun safety. There are 4 rules that if you follow almost nothing can go wrong. All guns are always loaded, never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy, keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target, be sure of your target. Seriously if you are to follow these rules along with some common sense I guarantee you nothing will go wrong. Unless you're a dumbass.
DarkPhantomZX 4 weeks ago
Started with my daughter at 3.
Crazymike321 1 month ago
We love ALL your videos. But that link you display doesn't work in my browser, what can we do to see that information..?
MrDein 2 months ago
If guns are legal in a country, then they should be taught as part of the curriculum. According to one study 20,000 US children are harmed every year, unintentionally, by guns kept at home- 900 of which are fatal.
If the US is so keen to promote its Second Amendment Rights, it starts in the classroom. For every child.
SomeBlokeLol 4 months ago
Solid video! I was taught safe handeling and use of firearms at a very early age and practive these safety acts even today. Keep it up, great message and great video!
WildEyeIV 8 months ago
@wcresponder: First rmcdaniel423 points out your ignorance, then you trump it by showing your arrogance. Your lack of logic is strong, no where in this video did Katey say ANYTHING about "every house armed". Regardless of how Katey, rmcdaniel423, me, or even you feel about "every house armed", it still is not the point of this video. Straw arguments are always a tool of people that know they are wrong. If they weren't wrong, they wouldn't do it.
coolzip 9 months ago
and yet there are still deaths from drinking and driving..... and look at the youth pregnacy rates. What a crock, katie. oh yeah those that handle guns never have miss haps or act irresponsible.
wcresponder 10 months ago
@wcresponder Your comment shows you have ignorantly missed the point of her message. She does not imply that there are "never" mishaps or irresponsible people. That's a stupid strawman remark. She simply says that people benefit from education in general, and that people who are educated about firearms are less likely to be hurt by them. What part of that do you disagree with? Are suggesting that people should NOT be educated about firearm safety?
rmcdaniel423 9 months ago
@rmcdaniel423 I have not missed the point of katy's lecture. she wants every house to be armed, just watch the rest of the videos they basically scream it. I'm not against informing people but to do it in a fear mongering way is wrong.
wcresponder 9 months ago
@wcresponder Another comment which may be relevant to some other video; not this one.
Your homework is to watch a video. Not just listen to 10 words and spit out an irrelevant comment.
thumper88888 7 months ago
@thumper88888 to bad you think I only listen to ten words... it could be I'm correct.
wcresponder 7 months ago
@wcresponder You are not. I know because I watched the video and listened. She and I have rights and are weary of people trying to steal them, especially by fear-mongering liars who, themselves, fear people who can and will defend themselves.
thumper88888 7 months ago
I must agree. I taught my children from an early age about firearms and safe use of firearms. I can leave a handgun on the kitchen table and my kids will walk by it and not even give if a second look. There is no 'fascination' with them, or what I call the 'forbidden fruit' syndrome. My kids know full well what a firearm is capable of. They know how to handle weapons and they know when it's proper to do so. This is much better than any idiot playing with any weapon.
awizardalso 10 months ago
Because people have become scared of guns. They here from the media and other
non educated morons that guns are bad and you shouldn't be around them.
Children need to be taught that guns are not bad, but useful tools to be used for different purposes.
lkelley32 11 months ago
They are afraid of losing control over armed citizens.
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Apoc897 1 year ago
Katey while I like you - I must admit my opinion is polar opposites with you on this issue.
I see no redeeming values in letting a child handle a weapon -
That is akin to letting a child drive a motorized vehicle - it is just an accident waiting to happen and ask many insurance companies - they are living proof that adults should only be legally handling guns, cars, drugs, and smokes.
UDOG01 1 year ago
@UDOG01
Legal driving age in most provinces is 16. A 16 year old is a child.
There is nothing wrong with teaching children responsibility at a young age. Maybe if more people were exposed to firearms, there wouldn't be so many people with an irrational fear of them.
Besides, children start learning about good driving habits long before they are allowed to drive. Being a passenger children learn red light means stop, green light means go etc. Firearm safety is no different.
EruditeCanadian 1 year ago
Katey while I like you - I must admit my opinion is polar opposites with you on this issue.
I see no redeeming values in letting a child handle a weapon -
That is akin to letting a child drive a motorized vehicle - it is just an accident waiting to happen.
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aweinsto 1 year ago
the problem with teaching children how to handle guns, is children are not capable of thinking correctly until they reach a certain age...and many never reach that age... so be sure the person your teaching to use a gun, isnt careless or unreasonable
longfootbuddy 1 year ago
I grew up with guns. Have a picture of myself in the crook of my Grandfather's arms, him holding the rifle, and me pulling the trigger.
We learned from birth that EVERY gun is ALWAYS loaded. You NEVER point the gun at anything you do not intend to destroy or kill. And EVERY gun is deadly, from a BB to a nitro-express.
As a result, in a tremendous family including hundreds of cousins we have never had any kind of a gun accident or death, despite the fact we hunt and target shoot a lot.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago 4
AND I carry a loaded pistol daily and have for over 20 years. No accidents, because I very methodically handle the weapon & treat it with the absolute respect due a dangerous tool like that.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago 5
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MrObamaHATESwhites 2 years ago
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Why would usaisadump, the canadian fuck 3rd post back, give a fly'n fuck about America?
Oh they're pissed canada is not even a real country.
All those thumbs down, what a loser.
MrObamaHATESwhites 2 years ago
The point is dump's life is ruled by fear. He would prefer utter security and safety to a free society.
The rest of us understand that freedom is a two edged blade. Every right, has its attendant dangers. The right to drink > disease & misbehavior related to alcohol. The privilege of choosing your own diet, despite the fact that several hundreds of thousands of Americans die preventable deaths every year due to their diet.
Fat is more dangerous than guns, and fat doesn't protect us
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago 4
from being dominated by some vicious minority, as were the Germans, the Italians, the Russians, the French, virtually all of Europe.
History's lesson is clear. And unarmed society invites domination by those willing to ignore the rules (or change them, as dump would like, to suit their agenda).
The fact is that dump has a huge inferiority complex. Read his screen name. It is written all over every single one of his posts.
He hates the USA, and his "advice" is the road to losing our rights.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago 4
Forbidding people to drive cars would mean fewer auto-related deaths. And yet we don't do that.
Dump is here to try to convince us to give up our rights. You have to wonder why. Was it his ancestors that convinced the citizens of Germany to give up their guns in the early 30's?
Why don't you ask the Jews & innocents of Germany how that worked out for them? And the citizens of France, begging us to drop weapons for their resistance? And the citizens of Iran, under the boot of the mullahs?
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago 13
Yes this video is dump's only hobby in life.
He wants to convince us to give up our rights. Why don't you ask the Jews of Germany & the innocent civilians murdered and dominated by a vicious minority about how that worked out for them. And the French. Ask them about their experience after the German invasion, when they were begging us to drop them guns to arm their people.
Ask Neda, in Iran, about it. Of course you cannot. She is dead.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago 3
dump's inferiority complex is truly epic. He is desperate for us to give up our rights. Why, I can't imagine, since he lives in Canada.
Trying to scare us with how dangerous guns are. Ignoring how pivotal they are to what America is. Yes, innocent people die because of our right to bear arms. It is a price we are willing to pay.
More people die in cars every year, than are killed by guns, and we accept that price as part of our society. And cars are designed NOT to kill... Ironic.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago 9
"Stop living in that fear."
We don't live in fear. That is why we are not interested in giving up our rights. You keep trying to scare us about guns, when we know they are no different than any other machine or tool.
You want to scare us about the allegedly horrible toll our rights cost us. Whatever lives are lost are the price of liberty. We are willing to bear that cost.
HumanShot 2 years ago
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usaisadump 2 years ago
@usaisadump My brother put a nasty hole in his forehead when a claw hammer bounced on a board. The board was fine, no patch required. If you honestly believe that every errant shot fired causes a death, you really need to start reading while the hype-drunk newsfolks and other socialists are repeating their scripted tirades.
Yes, guns' purpose is different from most other tools.That's why liberals fear them. Not simply because they can be deadly, but because they are efficient for self-defense.
thumper88888 7 months ago
You imply that guns are "no different than any other machine or tool." I'm telling you that guns are very different than other machines and tools. Guns are extremely dangerous. When a child makes a mistake with a hammer, you repair the dent in the drywall. When a child makes a mistake with a handgun, you still need to replace that same section of drywall...or maybe you can just paint over the stain. When the time comes, you make your repairs, I'll make mine. The only difference is a funeral.
usaisadump 4 months ago
@usaisadump " When a child makes a mistake with a hammer, you repair the dent in the drywall." What if that child "makes a mistake with a hammer" against the skull of another child? You are so beneath intelligent debate.
dontlikenumbers 4 months ago
@dontlikenumbers Make a point.
usaisadump 4 months ago
We are looking for as many anti-gun liberals as possible to sail to the Sea of Japan off the North Korean coast To protest weapons. Get your boats and signs ready and be there June 12th, 2009! Join the peace party.
dontlikenumbers 2 years ago
In College Park, Georgia 10 ppl gathered at a birthday party when 2 guys broke in. As the thugs were counting their bullets to make sure they had enough to kill everyone, 1 of the victims reached in his backpack and took out his own gun. 1 perp ran and the second perp was shot as he was getting ready to rape one of the girls. He jump out the window and died. The CDC will consider his death as part of the gun violence. And if he was under 20 than he will be counted as a child. That is reality.
dontlikenumbers 2 years ago
10 innocent people are alive because one was able to defend them. A gun ban would not take the guns out of the hands of the criminals, they didn't have theirs legally.
Someone's daughter did not get raped because one young man defended her.
dontlikenumbers 2 years ago
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I live in a wonderful country where I don't feel the need to take a pistol to my friend's birthday party. You somehow think your system is better just because a "perp" is dead. Remember this: he wasn't always a "perp." Just before he was handed his first illegal gun, he was a normal kid like you and I both once were. Your country has many guns and many gun deaths. My country has less guns and less gun deaths. When will you wake up and realize...you simply have no argument. Guns are for killing.
usaisadump 2 years ago
Hey Dumpy, Here is an idea for you. Since you like to protest guns and violence. Make yourself a sign, get yourself a boat, float on over to the Yellow Sea or the Sea of Japan, right off the North Korean coast and protest there for a while. They got some real bad guns over there.
dontlikenumbers 2 years ago
you will never understand dump. Canada is what it is thanks to the USA. And that is the source of your inferiority complex.
And yes, we like our rights. And no, we aren't interested in giving them up for you.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
"I have 3 in my garage and 1 or 2 in my home" (buckets)
Growing up we had a few dozen shotguns, couple of dozen rifles, several pistols with 7 people in the household. And in that time there was not a single unintended discharge of a weapon, and no injuries.
I have had a pistol in the small of my back since I turned 18 (over a decade ago), and in that time, never has that pistol hauled off and discharged itself.
Perhaps YOU are not a responsible person & that is why you shouldn't have a gun.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
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If every household was responsible like yours then gun death would not be an issue (with me, at least). If USA was able to educate their citizens, and in doing so prevent gun death, then I'd have no problem with your desire to maintain households brimming with guns. The fact is that the USA has not been able to educate itself on such matters. Every year more innocent people die. More innocent people turn to crime. More American birthday parties erupt in gunfire...(see comments above). Sad.
usaisadump 2 years ago
And why can't we educate our citizens and our children?
Because of fear mongers like you.
And as far as your last post, "he was a normal kid like you and I"...
Not hardly! I was taught Thou Shall not Steal. Thou Shall not commit Murder. Thou Shall not Covet. Thou Shall not commit Adultery (rape).
Which one of these was this animal thinking of upholding when he broke into that apartment? That kid was not murdered, he was put down like the animal that he became deserved.
dontlikenumbers 2 years ago 4
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Bringing religion into this? Please, don't make the debate any easier for me than it already is (i.e. god's the worst murderer in the history of the world). If you believe all that religious crap then you're forced to accept that if a criminal rapes and kills your mother, then it was simply "gods will." If you kill the perpetrator yourself, that's a sin on your record just like all the sins on his. No matter really, because god is imaginary. Your belief only solidifies your image as uninformed.
usaisadump 2 years ago
Bringing religion into this? Please, don't make the debate any easier for me than it already is (i.e. god's the worst murderer in the history of the world). If you believe all that religious crap then you're forced to accept that if a criminal rapes and kills your mother, then it was simply "gods will." If you kill the perpetrator yourself, that's a sin on your record just like all the sins on his. No matter really, because god is imaginary. Your belief only solidifies your image as uninformed.
usaisadump 4 months ago
@usaisadump Commenting after 2 years? Wow you are either some hard-up troll or you just got out of jail. We get it already. You don't like guns. You live in fear. You have control issues. You don't like the USA or our Constitution. When the economy collapses and someone comes to take your food away (if you even have any) remember, resistance is futile. Be the giving atheist that you are with the highest of compassion for others, because others are more important than your family.
dontlikenumbers 4 months ago
"I want to know, because my kid owns a pair." You have procreated!? We may have to re-examine evolution.
"And plastic buckets; how many were used in the commission of a murder in 2008." And that is what is so insidious about them... despite the fact they are not used for murder, they STILL kill more people EVERY YEAR than guns!!!!
Those things are damn deadly! It is time to start requiring all buckets be registered!
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
Really what it comes down to is dump hates the US because he has an inferiority complex.
What the source of that problem is, is a mystery because Canada really is a nice country. But something about the USA obviously makes him fell like he showed up in the locker room
ahem
less than adequately equipped.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
"leave the statistical portion of the gun control debate to the adults"
Yeah the adults who know that alchohol, cars, plastic bags, knives, stairs, the flu, plastic paint buckets, and bicycles all cause more annual deaths than guns.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
The key point is for some reason usaisadump wants us to give up our rights. Why is it he would want the US population to voluntarily disarm itself & sacrifice our constitutional rights?
Don't know, don't care. His attitude about the US is obviously an inferiority complex. And we anger him by our stubborn defense of our rights
If he wants to change the US constitution, he is free to emigrate, become a citizen & vote for candidates to change our constitution legally
Good luck with that
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
Accidental firearm deaths in a population of roughly 300 million.
2002 - 762; 2003 - 730; 2004 - 649; 2005 - 630; 2006 - 680.
So plastic buckets are more dangerous to their owners, as are ladders, roller skates, bicycles, plastic bags & stairs.
More people die from traffic accidents, poisoning & unintential falls than all categories of firearm deaths.
Twice as many people die from influenza on an anual basis, and yet we let people spread bullshit about vaccines (freedom of speech).
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
"emergency room doctor charade" Lol. I have nothing to prove to you.
"I pray for the poor, broke, crack addicted, homeless gunshot victims of Atlanta"
Oh, so you are a fan of freedom of religion. And obviously of freedom of speech. But you are not a fan of the rest of our rights. I wonder why.
Son, calling me dummy is your right. It simply speaks to your inferiority complex.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
People like dump, who cannot understand the nature of rights are angry over our form of government. Despite this, we will keep him safe. Like sheepdogs among the sheep.
He is free to baaaaaaaa on.
Rights do have prices. The price of our right to be armed is some level of needless death. The price of our right to free speech is people like dump.
The upside of our rights is the greatest level of freedom and personal responsibility enjoyed in the world.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
dump is eager for us to give up our rights. I wonder why. I suppose he thinks an unarmed populace would be easier for the government to dominate & for criminals to victimize.
His attitude is the surest sign that our exercising our rights is the right thing to do.
In the history of my family in the US, we have never had a single injury from a firearm, much less a death, despite having dozens of guns easily available.
I guess that is because we are responsible, intelligent citizens.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
Yeah, I agree. The 2,800 children and 50+ toddlers killed by gunfire yearly in the USA are "untrained." If you won't get rid of your guns, CAN YOU PLEASE HUSTLE WITH THE FCKING TRAINING THAT Y'ALL KEEP YAPPING ABOUT! Thanks.
usaisadump 2 years ago
The key point is for some reason usaisadump wants us to give up our rights. Why is it he would want the US population to voluntarily disarm itself & sacrifice our constitutional rights?
Don't know, don't care. His attitude about the US is obviously an inferiority complex. And we anger him by our stubborn defense of our rights
If he wants to change the US constitution, he is free to emigrate, become a citizen & vote for candidates to change our constitution legally
Good luck with that
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
You posted this then you copied and recycled it twice for a total of three appearances in this forum. You've done this with a number of your posts. I don't understand why. Can you not think of any new rationalizations for the needless deaths of your 30,000 countrymen? Please don't wait for me to move to your country in some crazy attempt to fix it for you. That kind of change takes ten lifetimes. But you can start the ball rolling by voting for a government who will dry up your sea of guns.
usaisadump 2 years ago
Accidental firearm deaths in a population of roughly 300 million.
2002 - 762; 2003 - 730; 2004 - 649; 2005 - 630; 2006 - 680.
So plastic buckets are more dangerous to their owners, as are ladders, roller skates, bicycles, plastic bags & stairs.
More people die from traffic accidents, poisoning & unintential falls than all categories of firearm deaths.
Twice as many people die from influenza on an anual basis, and yet we let people spread bullshit about vaccines (freedom of speech).
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
If you insist on idiotic comparisons such as guns vs. plastic buckets and rollerskates, please include all the data. Tell us how many people were murdered with a rollerskate last year. I want to know, because my kid owns a pair. And plastic buckets; how many were used in the commission of a murder in 2008. I have 3 in my garage and 1 or 2 in my home, so your input on their dangers is critical. Don't worry though, in the meantime I've registered my kids for summer "plastic bucket safety courses."
usaisadump 2 years ago
"emergency room doctor charade" Lol. I have nothing to prove to you.
"I pray for the poor, broke, crack addicted, homeless gunshot victims of Atlanta"
Oh, so you are a fan of freedom of religion. And obviously of freedom of speech. But you are not a fan of the rest of our rights. I wonder why.
Son, calling me dummy is your right. It simply speaks to your inferiority complex.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
People like dump, who cannot understand the nature of rights are angry over our form of government. Despite this, we will keep him safe. Like sheepdogs among the sheep.
He is free to baaaaaaaa on.
Rights do have prices. The price of our right to be armed is some level of needless death. The price of our right to free speech is people like dump.
The upside of our rights is the greatest level of freedom and personal responsibility enjoyed in the world.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
dump is eager for us to give up our rights. I wonder why. I suppose he thinks an unarmed populace would be easier for the government to dominate & for criminals to victimize.
His attitude is the surest sign that our exercising our rights is the right thing to do.
In the history of my family in the US, we have never had a single injury from a firearm, much less a death, despite having dozens of guns easily available.
I guess that is because we are responsible, intelligent citizens.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
The key point is for some reason usaisadump wants us to give up our rights. Why is it he would want the US population to voluntarily disarm itself & sacrifice our constitutional rights?
Don't know, don't care. His attitude about the US is obviously an inferiority complex. And we anger him by our stubborn defense of our rights
If he wants to change the US constitution, he is free to emigrate, become a citizen & vote for candidates to change our constitution legally
Good luck with that
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
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In your posts, I'm always "he" and you refer to yourself as "us." Cute how you create this feeling of giving a speech to school chums who have gathered "around" you online. Why not go 1 on 1? Because you're no speech writer, doc. And that reminds me. How many gunshot victims in "Atlanta and surrounding area" in the last 24 hrs? Were you busy out there doin' your best George Clooney impression? Pluckin' out the slugs 'n' sewin' up the thugs? Tell us, George...were you the hero at work yesterday?
usaisadump 2 years ago
Accidental firearm deaths in a population of roughly 300 million.
2002 - 762; 2003 - 730; 2004 - 649; 2005 - 630; 2006 - 680.
So plastic buckets are more dangerous to their owners, as are ladders, roller skates, bicycles, plastic bags & stairs.
More people die from traffic accidents, poisoning & unintential falls than all categories of firearm deaths.
Twice as many people die from influenza on an anual basis, and yet we let people spread bullshit about vaccines (freedom of speech).
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
"emergency room doctor charade" Lol. I have nothing to prove to you.
"I pray for the poor, broke, crack addicted, homeless gunshot victims of Atlanta"
Oh, so you are a fan of freedom of religion. And obviously of freedom of speech. But you are not a fan of the rest of our rights. I wonder why.
Son, calling me dummy is your right. It simply speaks to your inferiority complex.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
People like dump, who cannot understand the nature of rights are angry over our form of government. Despite this, we will keep him safe. Like sheepdogs among the sheep.
He is free to baaaaaaaa on.
Rights do have prices. The price of our right to be armed is some level of needless death. The price of our right to free speech is people like dump.
The upside of our rights is the greatest level of freedom and personal responsibility enjoyed in the world.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
dump is eager for us to give up our rights. I wonder why. I suppose he thinks an unarmed populace would be easier for the government to dominate & for criminals to victimize.
His attitude is the surest sign that our exercising our rights is the right thing to do.
In the history of my family in the US, we have never had a single injury from a firearm, much less a death, despite having dozens of guns easily available.
I guess that is because we are responsible, intelligent citizens.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
Vacation yes, but I could never move there. Who would ever freely choose to live somewhere that requires a handgun for home protection? It's just unsafe. Like I keep saying, 30,000 deaths a year from guns? Sorry. Too many bullets flying around your country to raise a family. Sooner or later a friend or loved one will be killed. It's just not worth it. I already live in a safer, cleaner place with better education, less drugs, free health care and a higher level of personal rights and freedoms.
usaisadump 2 years ago
The key point is for some reason usaisadump wants us to give up our rights. Why is it he would want the US population to voluntarily disarm itself & sacrifice our constitutional rights?
Don't know, don't care. His attitude about the US is obviously an inferiority complex. And we anger him by our stubborn defense of our rights
If he wants to change the US constitution, he is free to emigrate, become a citizen & vote for candidates to change our constitution legally
Good luck with that
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
Accidental firearm deaths in a population of roughly 300 million.
2002 - 762; 2003 - 730; 2004 - 649; 2005 - 630; 2006 - 680.
So plastic buckets are more dangerous to their owners, as are ladders, roller skates, bicycles, plastic bags & stairs.
More people die from traffic accidents, poisoning & unintential falls than all categories of firearm deaths.
Twice as many people die from influenza on an anual basis, and yet we let people spread bullshit about vaccines (freedom of speech).
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
Gunfire kills about 30,000 yankers/yr. Some are accidents, some not. Either way, the victims are equally dead. Data for extremely common items and occurrences cannot be compared 1:1 with gun death. You must factor in their more common use before comparing the death they cause. i.e. the general population spend countless more hours in cars and on bicycles than handling guns. The same could be said about handling anthrax or nitroglycerin. The comparison just isn't significant. Ask a stats prof.
usaisadump 2 years ago
Statistically those "yankers" that are getting killed are illegals, drug dealers and gang bangers or the offspring of said, Good Riddance! But you would be hard pressed to get that out of the CDC or the Brady Bunch. I don't have to give you sources in you are so easily deceived by the global nazis that you couldn't recognize the truth. I bet you don't even believe in God, do you?
Have you any idea of what is written in prophecies? It is all coming true.
Go back to sleep you little sheeple.
dontlikenumbers 2 years ago
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You don't get the big picture. Without guns in the 1st place, you wouldn't have rampant criminal behaviour. Your "Good Riddance" attitude; it's absolutely vile. That's the difference between you and others of the world who all want to improve it. You're content letting punks shoot themselves with guns while the rest of us want to solve the problem so no one has to die. Then you refer to "nazis" with a negative connotation. Would they feel differently than you re: gangs, druggies & criminals? No.
usaisadump 2 years ago
"emergency room doctor charade" Lol. I have nothing to prove to you.
"I pray for the poor, broke, crack addicted, homeless gunshot victims of Atlanta"
Oh, so you are a fan of freedom of religion. And obviously of freedom of speech. But you are not a fan of the rest of our rights. I wonder why.
Son, calling me dummy is your right. It simply speaks to your inferiority complex.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
dump is eager for us to give up our rights. I wonder why. I suppose he thinks an unarmed populace would be easier for the government to dominate & for criminals to victimize.
His attitude is the surest sign that our exercising our rights is the right thing to do.
In the history of my family in the US, we have never had a single injury from a firearm, much less a death, despite having dozens of guns easily available.
I guess that is because we are responsible, intelligent citizens.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
People like dump, who cannot understand the nature of rights are angry over our form of government. Despite this, we will keep him safe. Like sheepdogs among the sheep.
He is free to baaaaaaaa on.
Rights do have prices. The price of our right to be armed is some level of needless death. The price of our right to free speech is people like dump.
The upside of our rights is the greatest level of freedom and personal responsibility enjoyed in the world.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
As far as your beloved and bountiful "rights" and "freedoms" are concerned, I would be very impressed with your 8th place ranking in the "State of World Liberty Index." However Canada ranks 3rd in the world so, tough luck. AGAIN! Look it up and read about what it measures. I understand that your schools teach you that you've got the highest level of freedom in the world, but it's simply not true. Don't forget, these are the same schools that people like Miss Teen South Carolina attend...such as.
usaisadump 2 years ago
And the numbers from the Brady Nut camp are even higher. Yet mysteriously these children that are getting shot and die don't make it on the news. If a child gets shot in another state we hear about it.. Why not check out the rates for all the individual states and get back to us.
dontlikenumbers 2 years ago
LOL, seriously? You believe the anti-gun liberal views of the CDC? How ignorant. They do have an agenda, which is disarming Americans. Their numbers are falsely inflated, if someone there could produce the actual names of these so called "children" that have been shot to death to prove their numbers, but they won't (claiming protecting a minor) because they would not have enough names to meet their claim. And there are more people with guns than the government knows about. You are no expert.
dontlikenumbers 2 years ago
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Yes, I do believe the CDC. But I'm willing to look at your data. Do you have it yet? Post it and name the source. Remember that it's total gun death that we're talking about. Not murder, not accidental, not suicide. Total gun death. I'm saying it's close to 30,000 per year with 2800-3000 of those aged 19yrs and under. You say it's lower. So how much lower? And says who? Y'all keep crying "liberal" and "inflated" and "liar" but you can't name any real sources so far like I have, over and over.
usaisadump 2 years ago
Automobiles kill more children in this country than guns do by a long shot. Maybe we should get rid of them as well. At least that is the "Dumpster's"line of thinking.
Cars kill dude, they are way more dangerous than guns.
dontlikenumbers 2 years ago
You're trying to act like a statistician but you're not THINKING like one. Still I'll play your game. It's juvenile and bordering on idiocy, but if you insist on comparing autos to guns you must take the relatively small amount of time spent by people handling guns and compare it to the ENORMOUS amount of time they spend in autos. You'd soon find that if people died at the same rate from auto use as they do from gun use, the entire USA population would be wiped out in short order.
usaisadump 2 years ago
Also, I know that many Americans choke to death while eating. It happens at breakfast, lunch, dinner and all times in between. It's a tragedy for men, women, children, newborns, black people, white people, purple people (I didn't want to leave out the unfortunate folks who are actually currently choking as I type this out). Please tell me that you don't need an explanation as to why we shouldn't ban all non-intravenous food nationwide. Any other ridiculous comparisons you'd like to add?
usaisadump 2 years ago
Dumpy,
Did you know that not all the information you get from the internet is accurate?
Did you know that even snopes is not accurate?
Your stats on children killed by guns are not accurate. I don't know where you are getting your info, you could just be making it up as you go along which would explain a lot.
dontlikenumbers 2 years ago
Most every stat I've ever quoted has a ref. in at least one post. If you have different data, post it. I'm here to learn. I assure you, I make nothing up. What purpose would that serve? The child death figure I approximated was from a study that used The American CDC's 2003 data. The actual total child deaths was 2827 for ages 0-19. Now you go out, find your data from your source and let's compare their credibility to the USA's Center for Disease Control. Happy hunting!
usaisadump 2 years ago
"emergency room doctor charade" Lol. I have nothing to prove to you.
"I pray for the poor, broke, crack addicted, homeless gunshot victims of Atlanta"
Oh, so you are a fan of freedom of religion. And obviously of freedom of speech. But you are not a fan of the rest of our rights. I wonder why.
Son, calling me dummy is your right. It simply speaks to your inferiority complex.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago 3
My use of the word "pray" has nothing whatsoever to do with any form of religion. So, to the 78+% of American Christians who say that God exists - I say ---- fossils and radiocarbon dating exist, and there just ain't room enough at the table for all three of those. Sorry, "god." And freedom of speech? Nah. If you incite hate through your speech, then into the can you go. (i.e. the KKK is unwelcome here) If my government starts mishandling their powers, I trust my country to elect a fairer one.
usaisadump 2 years ago
@usaisadump It requires a bit more intelligence to understand that there must be a creator than to grasp Carbon-14's half life and remnant proportion, which varies with sunlight and other background radiation. Even blindly assuming no change in the radioactive field, the process is useless after about 50,000 years. You say God doesn't exist because fossils do? I would love for you to explain that logically. I am quite comfortable with "all three" .
thumper88888 7 months ago
People like dump, who cannot understand the nature of rights are angry over our form of government. Despite this, we will keep him safe. Like sheepdogs among the sheep.
He is free to baaaaaaaa on.
Rights do have prices. The price of our right to be armed is some level of needless death. The price of our right to free speech is people like dump.
The upside of our rights is the greatest level of freedom and personal responsibility enjoyed in the world.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago 3
Now you're talkin'! But forget the sheep part. We've been through that. Canada doesn't need your help. Please go away. Hanging out with USA is like wearing a tinfoil hat in a lightning storm. But the rest makes sense. USA is content to endure collateral damage to its citizens, from toddlers to the elderly, in order to keep the silly right to store handguns in their sock drawers! And free speech means others may mock you with the facts on the unnecessary death you've allowed to occur for years!
usaisadump 2 years ago
dump is eager for us to give up our rights. I wonder why. I suppose he thinks an unarmed populace would be easier for the government to dominate & for criminals to victimize.
His attitude is the surest sign that our exercising our rights is the right thing to do.
In the history of my family in the US, we have never had a single injury from a firearm, much less a death, despite having dozens of guns easily available.
I guess that is because we are responsible, intelligent citizens.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago 2
Dumpy, the pentagon has ARMED military personnel guarding it. And not many people going into the place are civilians. And many have their CCWs.
And you intelligence info comes from where? Government, media or spacemen?
wajeeboseal 2 years ago 2
Dumpy just doesn't have any common sense. If all the guns were banned he would start going after forks. And then toothpicks.
He has no concept of self control or personal accountability.
He should put a sign on his front door stating "No Guns on Premises".
Just see how long he lasts as an openly unprotected victim.
dontlikenumbers 2 years ago
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I've lasted 41+ years so far in "unprotected" houses. My entire country is "unprotected" by handguns. Yet, it has less gun crime than USA. If you melt down your guns and then all of a sudden some other weapon appears on the scene that's killing 30,000+ citizens annually, wouldn't you want to deal with that too? I don't even lock my doors. I don't need to. And the way you refer to unarmed homeowners (by default) as "victims"...that speaks volumes about the environment in which you were raised.
usaisadump 2 years ago
@Dump
The 2nd Ammendment which the Yanks have is not there for criminal deterrent, nor hunting and sport. It's there because each and every one of them is the first and the last line of defence for their nation, both from internal and external threats, and with whatever armament the militia man can physically carry.
Sadly Canada lacks this concept, especially with the threats that face us in this world, both internal and external. From the US, the RF, our own politicians, etc.
Kuisel88 2 years ago 2
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"Sadly"? We're not the ones with the gun death epidemic. You are! Don't be sad for Canada. We don't shoot each other at a rate of more than 80 deaths per day like y'all. Think about that. The USA has as much gun death in 2 weeks as the totals for Canada and the UK for an ENTIRE CALENDAR YEAR, COMBINED! And you have the nerve to feel sad for us? Keep on fearing your internal and external "threats" and your politicians. Just leave us out of it. We're peaceful and safe and want no part of you.
usaisadump 2 years ago
If we're so peaceful, why the need to take civilian firearms?
You want to know why I'm sad for Canada, my own homeland? I'm sad because I'm not one of "those" Canadians who prides themselves in ignorance and escapism. I'm sad because I see my fellow citizens trying to disarm us for a false sense of security. I'm sad because the same shit that happened to every line of my ethnic makeup would happen without opposition if you had your way.
You are the "internal threat" to my beloved Dominion.
Kuisel88 2 years ago
"false sense of security"? Fine. I say that I feel secure in my country without a gun in my sock drawer. You say that I'm wrong to feel secure; that my feeling of security is "false." So I ask (in the spirit of Mr. Gooding): show me the death! Where is it? Show it to me. Give me the names of 55 Canadian and UK toddlers killed by gunfire last yr. Give me the names of 2,800 children and 27,000+ adults. You cannot, of course, because they don't exist. My sense of security is TRUE. Sorry, dummy.
usaisadump 2 years ago
Your "beloved Dominion" has left you behind; moved on without you. If you behave the way you wish with your handguns and assault rifles, your "beloved Dominion" will put you in jail for a long, long time. Thankfully, the Dominion of Canada is a democracy. Citizens like me are able to vote people like you right down the drain into the USA. Go ahead and try to promote a "pro gun" candidate into a Canadian leadership role. Pick a party, any party. Lib, Consv, NDP, Commies, Pot, whatever. YOU LOSE!
usaisadump 2 years ago
Atlanta population for the douchebag who can't even figure out simple statistics.
Population (2007) - Metro 5,376,285 - Metro Density 630/sq mi (243/km2)
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
I already explained my source for Atlanta's population data. Don't complain to me. Originally, I never quoted the higher population of "Metro" Atlanta or "Atlanta and surrounding Region" You know I was correct in what I said. You were mistaken in your criticism. No foul. I understand. Now leave it alone. Cut your loss and embarrassment.
usaisadump 2 years ago
usaisadump is the same person as USArCOWARDS, and he is about as Canadian as Obama.
He is seriously sad individual who literally spends all day every day trolling on YT. Who knows what his agenda is, but the main thing he seems to be interested in doing is saying insulting things about the US.
dump has a serious inferiority complex & is working that out trying to talk us out of our rights... pathetic.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
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And please quit with this emergency room doctor charade. It's a joke. I pray for the poor, broke, crack addicted, homeless gunshot victims of Atlanta (and surrounding area) that it's a joke. Sorry, dummy.
usaisadump 2 years ago
I am an ER doc in Atlanta. For a long time, central Atlanta had gone downhill hard as people with education & wealth moved to rural subdivisions. In the last 10 years, that worm has turned, and many people are moving back.
There have always been pockets of nice neighborhoods, but now they are expanding again. I bought a house on Ponce De Leon toward downtown (which anyone who knows Atlanta knows has some VERY nice neighborhoods bordered by ghettos).
My house was on the border (cont)
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
(cont) of some of the rougher neighborhoods (Cynthia McKinney's district...). We got together with the longer term residents & the professionals moving back into the area & made an agreement that ALL the houses in the area would have signs "protected by S&W."
The criminal element kicked back one time, vandalizing some cameras, and then rolled over and scattered like the cockroaches they are.
Only had 1 breakin in the last 10 years, and the homeowner called 911, and us, her neighbors (2)
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
(2) Within minutes she had a dozen neighbors armed with everything from 12 guages to 22 target pistols with dogs in her yard, and she was able to exit the house safely. The perp was trapped in the house fearing for his life (with good reason) until the cops came to save him from us.
No repeat business & the word got around, and the crime ridden neighborhoods were pushed back. Even the poorer neighbors benefited from the new environment of 0 tolerance for crime.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
"silly American freedom to "bear arms"..." There are a lot of costs to our silly rights...
Such as the right to free speech. We have to allow morons like you to blather on.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
"Atlanta (pop. 430,000)" Good grief you are a fucking idiot. You are off by more than an order of magnitude.
Population 5 million, as of 2007. The rest of your information is similalry wrong (code for bullshit you just make up).
You are nothing but a troll. You are welcome to your opinion, but we are going to protect our rights thank you. And the 2nd amendment gives us the right to be armed.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
usaisadump is the same person as USArCOWARDS, and he is about as Canadian as Obama.
He is seriously sad individual who literally spends all day every day trolling on YT. Who knows what his agenda is, but the main thing he seems to be interested in doing is saying insulting things about the US.
Conotoxin prolly has it correct. It is an inferiority complex working itself out.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
I busy posting facts while y'all make personal attacks and name call. I enjoy debating the gun death issue. It's amusing to me that some people can stare at the numbers and then simply ignore them...then come back with the same old "2nd Amendment", "cold dead hand", "Vermont is so safe" "I'll protect me and mine" CRAP! Look around you, America. You are killing each other with guns. No country on Earth has more gun death than you. Enjoy that dish with your side order of silly "rights." (no pun)
usaisadump 2 years ago
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I find it extremely difficult to believe that a person can pass medical school in the USA without ever learning the meaning and proper usage of the term "literally." Sorry, dummy..er...Dr. Dummy.
usaisadump 2 years ago
I am an ER doc in Atlanta. For a long time, central Atlanta had gone downhill hard as people with education & wealth moved to rural subdivisions. In the last 10 years, that worm has turned, and many people are moving back.
There have always been pockets of nice neighborhoods, but now they are expanding again. I bought a house on Ponce De Leon toward downtown (which anyone who knows Atlanta knows has some VERY nice neighborhoods bordered by ghettos).
My house was on the border (cont)
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
(cont) of some of the rougher neighborhoods (Cynthia McKinney's district...). We got together with the longer term residents & the professionals moving back into the area & made an agreement that ALL the houses in the area would have signs "protected by S&W."
The criminal element kicked back one time, vandalizing some cameras, and then rolled over and scattered like the cockroaches they are.
Only had 1 breakin in the last 10 years, and the homeowner called 911, and us, her neighbors (2)
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
(2) Within minutes she had a dozen neighbors armed with everything from 12 guages to 22 target pistols with dogs in her yard, and she was able to exit the house safely. The perp was trapped in the house fearing for his life (with good reason) until the cops came to save him from us.
No repeat business & the word got around, and the crime ridden neighborhoods were pushed back. Even the poorer neighbors benefited from the new environment of 0 tolerance for crime.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
"silly American freedom to "bear arms"..." There are a lot of costs to our silly rights...
Such as the right to free speech. We have to allow morons like you to blather on.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
"Atlanta (pop. 430,000)" Good grief you are a fucking idiot. You are off by more than an order of magnitude.
Population 5 million, as of 2007. The rest of your information is similalry wrong (code for bullshit you just make up).
You are nothing but a troll. You are welcome to your opinion, but we are going to protect our rights thank you. And the 2nd amendment gives us the right to be armed.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
I did more looking around. Search online for the "city" of Atlanta-it has a population between 350,000 and mid 500's, depending on the year and source. One site that looked credible to me listed 430K, so that's what I went with in my post. Your 5 million figure is not for the city of Atlanta. It's for the city plus the metro area surrounding Atlanta. You also said that the rest of my info was wrong. Prove it or accept it. USA=30,000 gun deaths/yr Canada=1,200 (many due to smuggled US guns)
usaisadump 2 years ago
hey Dumpy, Here is a novel approach. Teach your children not to touch ANYTHING that doesn't belong to them. And if they disobey you, spank them. Make them afraid to disobey under treat of pain. Forget the Dr Spock pansies out there they have screwed the world up enough. I have seldom raised a hand to my children, only when talking and explaining don't work, but since I have, they don't disrespect other people's property. And I would never leave a gun in a dresser drawer-to be continued
dontlikenumbers 2 years ago
or anyplace that my child would find them. Not that she would touch them in the first place.
She has a BB gun rifle and is a sharp shooter with that but has no desire to touch the serious pistols. My 21 year old is also a sharp shooter, can shoot the barrel hole of an armed target with a 357 at the range. And she would not dream of touching one of my guns w/o permission.
It is all about disciplining the children. An undisciplined child will get punished as will their parents, one way or another.
dontlikenumbers 2 years ago
If they touch a gun that does not belong to them, maybe, as so many of you anti-God types put it, maybe they should get the Darwin award and be taken out of the gene pool.
dontlikenumbers 2 years ago
Good for you and your kids. As responsible gun owners, you're not the problem. However, you're unable to predict others' habits. The only way to make your country safer like mine is to do what we did. Ban handguns. Only then will your death rate go down. As for your willingness to strike your kids---suit yourself. I disagree and so do most rational parents. And your thought that an innocent child who accidentally mishandles a gun deserves to be killed in the name of Darwinism... utterly sad.
usaisadump 2 years ago
Suppose your young child was accidentally killed by a schoolmate who found his dad's gun under the bed and brought it to school. Would you think that such accidents are simply collateral damage and ultimately the fair cost of your silly American freedom to "bear arms"...or would you admit that it's finally time to melt down your guns? Tell me, please. How would you feel if your child was killed in that manner and what would you do about it?
usaisadump 2 years ago
The ONLY time I heard of a little boy that brought a gun to school that he found was when he was staying with an uncle who was a crack dealer. I expect he was imitating what he saw, too, when he used it.
Overall, US schools are safer than UK schools.
JaneCochran 2 years ago
Please just answer the question. If YOUR child was accidentally killed by a gun which was brought to school (maybe even in Vermont) by another youngster, would you think that such accidents are simply collateral damage and ultimately the fair cost of your silly American freedom to "bear arms"...or would you admit that it's finally time to melt down your guns? How would you feel and what would you do about it? Would you just march down to the school with a dozen leaflets on gun safety? Tell us!
usaisadump 2 years ago
Why? You don't answer our questions, you just evade them. For more, see "A Story About What Gun Control Can Do" on YT by LibertyIsNotGiven (who has the patience to keep showing the holes in your poor logic).
But I'll answer despite that. I'd react much the same as if death were caused by house cleansers, pools, cars, or trampolines (which injure & kill far more than guns do--not that you care about THOSE children of course). Leaflets are possible (& I've done that before).
JaneCochran 2 years ago
I am an ER doc in Atlanta. For a long time, central Atlanta had gone downhill hard as people with education & wealth moved to rural subdivisions. In the last 10 years, that worm has turned, and many people are moving back.
There have always been pockets of nice neighborhoods, but now they are expanding again. I bought a house on Ponce De Leon toward downtown (which anyone who knows Atlanta knows has some VERY nice neighborhoods bordered by ghettos).
My house was on the border (cont)
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago 2
(cont) of some of the rougher neighborhoods (Cynthia McKinney's district...). We got together with the longer term residents & the professionals moving back into the area & made an agreement that ALL the houses in the area would have signs "protected by S&W."
The criminal element kicked back one time, vandalizing some cameras, and then rolled over and scattered like the cockroaches they are.
Only had 1 breakin in the last 10 years, and the homeowner called 911, and us, her neighbors (2)
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago 2
(2) Within minutes she had a dozen neighbors armed with everything from 12 guages to 22 target pistols with dogs in her yard, and she was able to exit the house safely. The perp was trapped in the house fearing for his life (with good reason) until the cops came to save him from us.
No repeat business & the word got around, and the crime ridden neighborhoods were pushed back. Even the poorer neighbors benefited from the new environment of 0 tolerance for crime.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
I'm glad nobody was hurt. You are dangerous and reckless. You are an assault on the American and Canadian dream. Thankfully, your kind of mentality is slowly being assimilated by rational (Democratic) society. Okay, off you go now, back to the old Patrick Swayze film (pick one---I prefer "Next of Kin" m'self) that you call your life. Sorry, dummy.
usaisadump 2 years ago
"You are dangerous and reckless" ROFLOL, ignorance speaks.
"You are an assault on the American and Canadian dream" Americans defending their rights & their neighbors are never a threat. Indeed the reason my neighborhood is an island of calm near downtown Atlanta is thanks to our attitude & willingness to confront criminals head on.
"your kind of mentality is slowly being assimilated" My kind of mentality is the very heart of democracy.
Too bad for you.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago
Check the per capita gun murder and robbery rate in Atlanta (pop. 430,000) where handguns grow on trees. Then compare them with Hamilton, Ontario, Canada pop. 600,000+) where handguns are banned. Soon, you'll conclude that handguns are the problem. If you want less death, get rid of your handguns. Simple as that. You have the problem, not me. I'm just trying to help you by telling you how to solve your murder and robbery problem. If you think even more guns will help, I feel sorry for you.
usaisadump 2 years ago
Check out the murders in Russia and Mexico, with their intense gun control (in Russia, you even have to report every single bullet fired to the police, and are severely limited to what kinds of guns & ammo you can buy), and then compare to Vermont, where any adult without a felony record can buy a gun and carry it concealed without a permit. Or Switzerland where there are days every single person is carting a military rifle on the freeways.
If you want less crime, get more guns. ;-)
JaneCochran 2 years ago
I love Vermont. I've travelled through the lovely tree covered hills to Bolton Valley. The people are wonderful (all 620,000 of them---about 1/8 the size of the city where I currently live). But as lovely as it seems, it's NOT representative of American society. Vermont more closely resembles a hunting camp than an urban centre where the gun troubles erupt. Comparing Vermont to the rest of your country just validates the fact that your education system lacks a decent geography program.Cut it out
usaisadump 2 years ago
You say if I want less crime, get more guns? I ALREADY HAVE LESS CRIME! Read the paper, surf the net, try TV/radio. Canada has nowhere near your ridiculous handgun crime. We have no legal handguns on our streets! Get caught with one here and we place you in a box for a few years to take you down a notch. The USA is a war zone compared to Canada. You don't see it because you've lived in your little war zone all your life. Educate yourself on what's happening around you. Your schools have failed.
usaisadump 2 years ago
You just admitted guns are not the problem or cause of violence by admitting that Vermont has plenty of guns in circulation, many can & do carry concealed without a permit, and yet is one of the safest in the nation.
And you're right about how it's not like the rest of the USA in that it has none of your gun control. Too bad other states can't be the same and see a drop in their murder rate as a result.
Btw, evade everything we come up with if you must, but answer Katie's vid. :P
JaneCochran 2 years ago
that's cause someone is a troll, stuck on a video like he has OCD
wajeeboseal 2 years ago 2
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Please show precisely what I "admitted" by cutting and pasting it into your next post. You cannot, because I "admitted" nothing. What I am trying to say is that the reason Vermont's gun death is lower is NOT due to handgun availability. It's due to population density. NOBODY LIVES THERE! It's all trees and mountains. If you took all the ghettos out of Los Angeles and replaced them with trees and lakes and then rounded up the millions of people and shipped them to Vermont, what would happen?
usaisadump 2 years ago
Nope. Your name says it all. That and how much time you spend protesting. And you are ignorant on top of your complex. IF you are Canadian, then you are from the North American continent. An American, by defintion. Try again.
The fact is you are just a sad little troll. With a life so bereft of meaning that you spend your time here trying to pick fights.
Laughable, and very sad at the same time. Perhaps you should take up a hobby. Like target shooting.
conotoxin 2 years ago 3
So true, so true.
Another reason why he doesn't want anyone to have guns is because he knows he has to behave himself. He probably hates his job as well, as he seems to have a problem with being accountable to others.
Maybe he has a neighbor that is armed and can't stand the fact he can't bully him.
I love target shooting.
dontlikenumbers 2 years ago 2
usaisadump is the same person as USArCOWARDS, and he is about as Canadian as Obama.
He is seriously sad individual who literally spends all day every day trolling on YT. Who knows what his agenda is, but the main thing he seems to be interested in doing is saying insulting things about the US.
Conotoxin prolly has it correct. It is an inferiority complex working itself out.
ccr5cxcr4 2 years ago 2
I assure you that "USArCOWARDS" isn't me. I looked him up and have no idea who he is. As for this "inferiority" thing, sorry, doc. Canada is superior. USA is killing itself with guns. Canadians are safe on streets & at home; yankers live in fear. How can I be any more clear? Melt down your guns and MAYBE someday your family will be as safe as mine. Til then, good luck dodging bullets. And for the record, I like Obama. I wish him the best in reversing the course on which your country's been set.
usaisadump 2 years ago
I love shooting too (Para Ordnance Mod 85 9mm paint with both semi and full auto kits, Crosman pellet/BB rifles and pistols, airsoft guns plus a couple full auto paintball rifles .60 and .68 cal. And if I found out that a neighbour of mine was armed with an illegal gun, I'd do the responsible thing and see that it was put safely in the hands of the police where it belongs. My young daughters play in my neighbours' houses. The last thing I want them pulling out of a drawer is a loaded gun.
usaisadump 2 years ago
I'm amazed that you feel the need to have to suck up to guns so you won't be bullied by your neighbours. What's wrong with the police chief you elected? What's the problem with your elected District Attorney? Your US Senators? Your Congressmen? Where did your country fail you? Where I'm from, neighbours don't make a habit of bullying each other anyway. I guess we just don't need guns the way y'all do. We're CIVILIZED. Best of luck to you after you're shot by a clueless redneck "bully."
usaisadump 2 years ago
Only a few in the USA are dangerous, but it's good to be prepared against them.
Your neighbors could fill a bottle with gas and a burning rag to throw on your car or into your home. They could run you over with their car. They can stab you with knives. That they don't do these things tell me that they won't shoot you either, for the very same reason.
Instead of showing us how irrational you are, why not address the point of the video instead of making up points?
JaneCochran 2 years ago
Burning rags sticking out of gas filled bottles surely are dangerous, but they don't kill 25,000+ Americans each year. If they did, you would probably stop placing burning rags into gas filled bottles...or maybe not. Maybe you would make the point that people in your precious "Vermont" don't seem to die at a very high rate due to exploding gas filled bottles, and therefore it must be safe to allow gas filled bottles all across the rest of the nation. Sound ridiculous? Yes...you are.
usaisadump 2 years ago
You're ridiculous for thinking guns turn people into murdering monsters. And ignoring that the vast majority are done by illegal guns which come from military & government sources (primarily American, Russian, & Chinese), who will kill even more if they know their prey is disarmed, as they've done in other countries. You ignore the Swiss, you focus on places that already have your "solutions" in place and offer them as a reason why your way is right.
I'm done with you.
JaneCochran 2 years ago
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You're done? Heh. You're goddamned right you're done. Across the globe, USA ranks #1 in gun death per capita with their silly laws. Switzerland is #3 with theirs. Both disgraceful! Once the USA melts down all its guns, they can begin enjoying lower numbers in all these death studies. (and Canada's #'s will benefit too...as most of our illegal guns come from you know where). Til then, bury your dead. They're stinkin' up the joint. Sorry, dummy.
usaisadump 2 years ago
I wonder what would happen to the women of Darfur if they were to be armed? Do you think there would be an increase in rape and murder?
dontlikenumbers 2 years ago
Sure. That's a marvelous solution. Put a gun in every potential victim's hand. HEY!!!!! Why not take it a step further. Let's give EVERY adult in the world a handgun!!!!!!!! Yeah, that's the ticket. Let's put a gun in every glovebox and every sock drawer. We'll put 'em under every pillow and in every sportcoat pocket. That will take care of the global murder rate. Jeez. That was easy. Why didn't I think of this before? Dang.
usaisadump 2 years ago
Debate requires intelligence. Dump has none. And what is funny is he is so insecure that he spells out his inferiority complex in his name.
Obviously, something about the US makes him feel insecure or inferior. And responsible gun owners REALLY make him crazy.
I guess it is that little "rights" thing he can't stand. He would ever so much prefer to run your life.
No thanks.
conotoxin 2 years ago 4
Are you out of your mind? I'm delighted, proud and extremely relieved to be Canadian. Inferiority complex? Absurd. When I meet someone from a foreign land, the first order of business is to establish the fact that I'm NOT American. This is not because I think all y'all are superior. Get it? Good. As for your ridiculous need for "rights" to carry handguns, which in the wrong hands could harm my young family; terribly sad. And the only extent to which I'll go to run your life: my vote.
usaisadump 2 years ago
Look at Nazi Germany, how Hitler disarmed civilians and created a youth task force, and then remind the Jews how safe they were in 1938. How being defenseless was in their best interest.
Think it can't happen again? You can be the first one on the train.
History repeats itself over and over.
I don't keep a gun where it could be found by either a child or a criminal or the government so my guns are safe. If you choose to be defenseless, good luck with that.
dontlikenumbers 2 years ago
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Elect a trusted government, well funded and armed. Sense trouble? Vote them from office. You compare Hitler to Brown? Harper? Obama? Please, no nazi references when addressing those who seek to maintain peace for your benefit. A gun in a glove box is not going to stave off the next Hitler. However, the aptitude of voters in more highly educated countries ("such as in South Africa and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere,like, such as"...hehe...just kidding) such as Canada and UK may just do the trick.
usaisadump 2 years ago
What is there to discuss? I have nothing to prove, unlike you. Your inferiority complex is so severe you have to spend your time trying to p