Killing Joke were another great alternative band from the 1980s too. They weren't strictly punk but had a big punk following. Check out their song "eighties" on here it is a classic.
This song is absolutely fantastic. Never get sick of it. Remember seeing them in 1981/82. Was hopin to see them in Norwich 11th Nov but all tickets sold. Does anyone know if any are unwanted!!!!
I wrote the first underground song in 1941. It's "Let's Sink Another U-boat, Mother" and it was a smash hit in the services. The song was one of the first also to make sly refs to nancy-boys. Many of them post on this page.
nothing wrong with eye-liner... greenday may claim to be punk and may have been heavily influenced by such, and i respect them as musicians, but it doesnt hold a candle to the old groups,,,exploited, gbh, screwdriver, hellbastard, pistols, ramones, the damned, etc etc and i also love the 80s goth scene...which was sprang from the punk.....
@Darkangelrock92 - Sad thing is I doubt a lot of the (I feel old) newer punks think they're too cool for the likes of The Clash and the clash is fuckin bad ass but even myself I wanted to listen to the casualties type bands because they were more hardcore to me but luckily I got into the 77 style shit with bands like SLF, the vibrators, lurkers, johnny thunders, clash, (even the noobie punk band) sex pistols. 77 style is whas i still listen to even tho im into hip hop but i love 77 n 82 punk.
The White man stole our music, stole our children and even stole our hair!---Malocolm X, from Wit & Wisodm of Malcolm (Blessings be Upon Him) Muhammad Press, 1980
@BrokenneckYgor Well Elijah Muhammad was a fucking shit then because thats nothing more than a quote from the KJV bible thats had the words rearranged. Originally it said "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle (an exceptionally small gate for on foot entrance through the walls of Jerusalem, often times greedy merchants would attempt to bring a loaded camel through to avoid paying import taxes) than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
"The Hon. Elijah Muhammad says, 'It's easier for a camel to use a needle and thread than for the White man to enter the Kingdom of Allah.'---from Wit & Wisdom of Malcolm X (Belfast Press, 1990)
@BrokenneckYgor fella i knew down the pub said " piss on malcom x that cunt,s got fuck all to do with us ," from wit and wisdom of bloke down the pub....
Lets go back 20 years , a land that still had a voice , yet now , a land destroyed through forced acceptance, our leaders (all rich) Laugh at us to our faces. They care not for anything apart from there inner self greed, and the streets of London have vanished. Wrong time , wrong place , this land is dead. We were sold out and now we are paying for it. Millions dead in WW1 &2 , for what???? We let those who fought , Down !!!!
@MrCiggles i just payed at the door i only went cos it was a gig i'd only heard one of there albums :L there pretty fuckin good though support were good to
Whatever era you come from there is great music and it is all about choice and opinions....there is nothing wrong with liking Kylie or the Sex Pistols.....it's about what YOU like and what makes you happy liking.
My eras were the 70's & 80's but there have been many great bands and artists since.
class, i remember doing a project on ralph mctell when i was eleven, and i took this version into school teachers flipped and i got strapped good times!!
who gives a fuck when people were born? its not like its a choice. Whether or not your punk has sweet fuck-all to do with what decade you were born in...
well hold on im 16 years old and yeh i know you wil lprobably be sad and take the piss out of that, but what diference does age have to do woth this? i hate the lie of global warming and politics and religion is all one big lie too, so what the fuck does age have to do with it i think similar thoguhts to you? this is the type of stuff i like i hate all the new so they call punk now day e.g greenday punks like me who prefers the old stuff are on the rise every day.
@SquidLickShaun same shit goin on m8,no fuckin work,no fuckin future,no fuckin money,the great new labour economic miracle is fucked,you guys are in the same boat as we were when maggie screwed us all!
@SquidLickShaun I guess you're just too punk rock for Greenday. lol. Greenday was the shit back in the 90's. Don't disrespect. I know now they're a bunch of eyeliner having flippy haircut wearing faggots now but Christie Road is a killer song.
Considering Greenday was around before you were even born I think it's safe to say Greenday is old stuff to you, son.
@chuckb11 -Thank you ! I don't know how old you are but I'm 28 and in the early to mid 90s Green Day was the shit and I still think their earlier music is good but their current stuff is pretty catchy. You can't blame it on the kiddies though because back when I was too punk for punk I would have never admitted that Green Day had some songs that were good. It went against the "punk code" LOL
@mixwell1983 nothing wrong with liking green day those boys are punk to their soul and when your'e punk inside then your'e part of one massive family[no codes,no nothing no problem.cheers m8.
I don't know if I would classify Green Day as punk in relation to the UK scene but I think as Green Day matured they do/did have some good songs. Again not calling it punk but for what it is I think it sounds pretty good. I think the oddest thing is to compare apples and oranges like UK82 style punk to Green Day (which I would personally label "alternative") Green Day's older shit isn't bad but I'm sure younger generations won't admit it until they get outta the I'm more punk than u phase.
@SquidLickShaun well said!! i was a teen in 76 / 77 when these bands hit the scene and it was fantastic..you gotta remember the music that was aired before was so bad and hardly any radio would play them also a lot of the public were so against it which made it more exciting..
Where are these boys today, im a punk from the 80's and we need to keep this going, fuck PC, fuck the lie of global warming and fuck leftwing politics, thats all 3. FMOTL..ORG
Amen, i hate fucking lefties to, im punk to i dont do the spikey hair anymore though getting to old for it i just feel silly doing that stuff now, i still have the attitude though 26 now so i guess i count as being an original punk hate these new mainstream punks coming out they have no idea punk will never completly die
@thomas242007 you didn't say anything about being born in the right time period. you said "I count as being an original punk" yet, you weren't around during the formation of it, so your wrong, that's all. i'm the same age but at least i know my roots.
@thomas242007 lol, sorry, but you're a moron. when you were born, Johnny Rotten had left the Sex Pistols and Sid Vicious was dead. when the clash finally broke up, you were 2, maybe 3 years old. I even doubt, you ever saw the Ramones live, even though they lasted 'til 96. i come from the very same generation as you and alphabex, and I love those bands, much more than anything we could have possibly seen in the past 15 years. but it bothers me, that you call yourself an original punk.
@Alphabex8 i was born in '92 and i consider myself to be a real punk. im not one of those mad posers who's all *grumpy face* 'im a punk, i hate you and i hate everything.' or one of those wee girls who like avril lavigne and green day and have this thing about 'electric pink' >.< i just listen to punk music and i love my dm's and bondage trousers. they're the only clothes i feel overly comfy in.
real punk is fading many people dot tae notie wich is a shame..there needs to be a proper band out there with meaning to it ratherthen shit like greenday hu say there punk
listen to the lyrics you bunch of tossers who walk past homeless people on your way to camden.... posing wankers, u make me puke. ps bet your dads and mums are rich middle class wankers too.
They sound a bit like the Strangers from their brief punk phase. Listen to their songs Five Minutes and Something Better Change they have the same raw energy and menacing stance as this song.
Anti Nowhere League weren't a punk band... Punks liked them.. coz they were good.. but so's yer mum and she isn't a punk band either.
westhamod 3 weeks ago
YES.
JUST YES.
lulabell0 2 months ago
Killing Joke were another great alternative band from the 1980s too. They weren't strictly punk but had a big punk following. Check out their song "eighties" on here it is a classic.
ParagramTree 2 months ago
This song is absolutely fantastic. Never get sick of it. Remember seeing them in 1981/82. Was hopin to see them in Norwich 11th Nov but all tickets sold. Does anyone know if any are unwanted!!!!
karttrakcromer 2 months ago
lighten up people its only bloody music ,,,, ha !! an we dont care !!!!!!
trunky64 3 months ago
WTF!!!!!!!!!! I love anti nowhere league, misfits, the exploidet!!!! but green day???? pfffffffffffffffffff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gillipollarodante100 4 months ago
fully sick amen... hail nwo
sammyxkx 5 months ago
I came here because this song is on the "Ashes to Ashes" soundtrack
Silvermoth2 5 months ago
amanha essa é a pegada e pros haters e dedinho dentro do rabo rodando
amadeumc 5 months ago
3 dislikers will never be taken through the streets of london,and be shown something they`ll never understand..
tomahawkbungle 7 months ago 2
I wrote the first underground song in 1941. It's "Let's Sink Another U-boat, Mother" and it was a smash hit in the services. The song was one of the first also to make sly refs to nancy-boys. Many of them post on this page.
BrokenneckYgor 7 months ago 2
I did, I saw an old man outside the Seamans's Mission. not really it was a Salvation Army Hostel. A long time ago. That upset me.
malcolmcog 8 months ago
nothing wrong with eye-liner... greenday may claim to be punk and may have been heavily influenced by such, and i respect them as musicians, but it doesnt hold a candle to the old groups,,,exploited, gbh, screwdriver, hellbastard, pistols, ramones, the damned, etc etc and i also love the 80s goth scene...which was sprang from the punk.....
GothickWulf 9 months ago
kick ass!!!
Syur2000 9 months ago
Green Day is alternative rock, the classic punk rock like ramones, pistols, clash ect.. are the real punks ;)
Darkangelrock92 10 months ago
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mattmanmkb 10 months ago
@Darkangelrock92 green day is not alternative rock oO
MrGreenday80 9 months ago
@Darkangelrock92 - Sad thing is I doubt a lot of the (I feel old) newer punks think they're too cool for the likes of The Clash and the clash is fuckin bad ass but even myself I wanted to listen to the casualties type bands because they were more hardcore to me but luckily I got into the 77 style shit with bands like SLF, the vibrators, lurkers, johnny thunders, clash, (even the noobie punk band) sex pistols. 77 style is whas i still listen to even tho im into hip hop but i love 77 n 82 punk.
mixwell1983 4 months ago
The White man stole our music, stole our children and even stole our hair!---Malocolm X, from Wit & Wisodm of Malcolm (Blessings be Upon Him) Muhammad Press, 1980
BrokenneckYgor 10 months ago
@BrokenneckYgor
How exactly did the white man steal the black man's hair?
BolnoyBratchny 10 months ago
@BolnoyBratchny : Malcolm was upset to see Whites wearing braids and dreadlocks
BrokenneckYgor 10 months ago
@BrokenneckYgor shut up you racist tool
TheSotragic 9 months ago
@TheSotragic As my granny used ta say--Y'all caN kiss-o my ass-o in El Paso
BrokenneckYgor 9 months ago
@BrokenneckYgor your a bit of a special twat are'nt you?
TheSotragic 8 months ago
@TheSotragic Ya cheeky monkey! I am the last surviving songwriter of WW2
BrokenneckYgor 8 months ago
why are you talking about green day on a anti nowhere league vid
138DeadBoy 11 months ago 36
@BrokenneckYgor Well Elijah Muhammad was a fucking shit then because thats nothing more than a quote from the KJV bible thats had the words rearranged. Originally it said "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle (an exceptionally small gate for on foot entrance through the walls of Jerusalem, often times greedy merchants would attempt to bring a loaded camel through to avoid paying import taxes) than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
BenzinFresser 11 months ago 2
Green Day was never punk. Just a bunch of shit heads.
punkrev0lt 11 months ago 2
"The Hon. Elijah Muhammad says, 'It's easier for a camel to use a needle and thread than for the White man to enter the Kingdom of Allah.'---from Wit & Wisdom of Malcolm X (Belfast Press, 1990)
BrokenneckYgor 1 year ago
@BrokenneckYgor fella i knew down the pub said " piss on malcom x that cunt,s got fuck all to do with us ," from wit and wisdom of bloke down the pub....
whitebigpolarbear 11 months ago
@whitebigpolarbear lol
BrokenneckYgor 11 months ago
@BrokenneckYgor no white man wants to go to the middle east. no. america isnt a white man.
BucketPukes1969 11 months ago
Lets go back 20 years , a land that still had a voice , yet now , a land destroyed through forced acceptance, our leaders (all rich) Laugh at us to our faces. They care not for anything apart from there inner self greed, and the streets of London have vanished. Wrong time , wrong place , this land is dead. We were sold out and now we are paying for it. Millions dead in WW1 &2 , for what???? We let those who fought , Down !!!!
MegaBravo19 1 year ago 5
memories, ***** classic!
yorkie6687 1 year ago
This here song explains what London am about---Malcolm X
BrokenneckYgor 1 year ago
Tell it like it is ....
61mjc 1 year ago
Want a giggle? Listen to Sinead O'Connor's version. It will give you a cavity.
BrokenneckYgor 1 year ago
@BrokenneckYgor Skinhead O'Connor, IRA BITCH!!!!
yorkie6687 1 year ago
@yorkie6687 Maybe she does kinky stuff
BrokenneckYgor 1 year ago
My campaign song!--BNP candidate in late election
BrokenneckYgor 1 year ago
i know this isnt the sex pistols one, but they did one too didnt they?
Tiramisumandeln 1 year ago
Deeply moving, this song. It makes me shed tears like a baby.---Chas. Bronson, HMP
BrokenneckYgor 1 year ago
This is said to be the late Harold Wilson's favourite cover
BrokenneckYgor 1 year ago
who cares if this band or the Sex pistols were better? they're both bad ass
dogslam13 1 year ago
fuck the sex pistols, this is actual british punk :D
NinjaJedi11 1 year ago
@NinjaJedi11 so what where the sex pistols then ???
woodenz 1 year ago
@woodenz ignore that lowlife there...
Tiramisumandeln 1 year ago
Memories are FADING, not fighting...
CrimsonPhantom88 1 year ago
@gumbogum Hmmmmm that must have made you 3 or 4 then
pinoyoverseas 1 year ago
HITLER STARTED PUNK ROCK IN 1939
MrCiggles 1 year ago
october 21st !!!!! gna be buzzin
MrCiggles 1 year ago
@MrCiggles saw 'em 2 hours ago :P
138FrOsTy138 1 year ago
@138FrOsTy138 :@ i wud be seein em next week if they dint cancel thier gig which i already had tickets for the cunts :@@@@@@@@
MrCiggles 1 year ago
@MrCiggles i just payed at the door i only went cos it was a gig i'd only heard one of there albums :L there pretty fuckin good though support were good to
138FrOsTy138 1 year ago
@ElegantDisciplesMC almost 40 n still doing tht ... thts fucking nice
MultiJedimaster 1 year ago
Memories,,,great song..thanks !!!
TheMadwolf1968 1 year ago
Love that bit in the chorus "..and I'll show you something that'll make you really sick" and his drawl over the word 'sick'
sodacakeblues 1 year ago
@ElegantDisciplesMC The man speaks truth.
Deetroiter 1 year ago
I fckn started punk rock round at me mams place in 1945 so all you other posers can rack rite off, oi fckn oi indeed
msg2urudy 1 year ago 2
@msg2urudy Cool!
bananasplitsable 1 year ago
Whatever era you come from there is great music and it is all about choice and opinions....there is nothing wrong with liking Kylie or the Sex Pistols.....it's about what YOU like and what makes you happy liking.
My eras were the 70's & 80's but there have been many great bands and artists since.
u414336 1 year ago
@AllyTheIrishFaire i totally agree - im a '94 child and i can't understand how people would prefer shite music like bieber to legends like these
bloodypedant 1 year ago
@bloodypedant Well said.
I was born in 81 and loved that era alot more than todays music.
gumbogum 1 year ago
class, i remember doing a project on ralph mctell when i was eleven, and i took this version into school teachers flipped and i got strapped good times!!
siffler1234 1 year ago
who gives a fuck when people were born? its not like its a choice. Whether or not your punk has sweet fuck-all to do with what decade you were born in...
PeteJones100 1 year ago 3
Wow I was kinda depressed, but this song is a great pick-me-up. Thanks ANL
sloanmidwestXTC 1 year ago
i remember we all had to sing this in my primary school, brings back old memorys, but this versions better :D
slipknotarebest 2 years ago
well hold on im 16 years old and yeh i know you wil lprobably be sad and take the piss out of that, but what diference does age have to do woth this? i hate the lie of global warming and politics and religion is all one big lie too, so what the fuck does age have to do with it i think similar thoguhts to you? this is the type of stuff i like i hate all the new so they call punk now day e.g greenday punks like me who prefers the old stuff are on the rise every day.
SquidLickShaun 2 years ago 10
@SquidLickShaun same shit goin on m8,no fuckin work,no fuckin future,no fuckin money,the great new labour economic miracle is fucked,you guys are in the same boat as we were when maggie screwed us all!
bellaghengis 11 months ago
@SquidLickShaun u tell em
jgcolzey 11 months ago
@SquidLickShaun Did you just say global warming was a lie?
Fanta666 9 months ago
@SquidLickShaun I guess you're just too punk rock for Greenday. lol. Greenday was the shit back in the 90's. Don't disrespect. I know now they're a bunch of eyeliner having flippy haircut wearing faggots now but Christie Road is a killer song.
Considering Greenday was around before you were even born I think it's safe to say Greenday is old stuff to you, son.
chuckb11 9 months ago
@chuckb11 -Thank you ! I don't know how old you are but I'm 28 and in the early to mid 90s Green Day was the shit and I still think their earlier music is good but their current stuff is pretty catchy. You can't blame it on the kiddies though because back when I was too punk for punk I would have never admitted that Green Day had some songs that were good. It went against the "punk code" LOL
mixwell1983 4 months ago
@mixwell1983 nothing wrong with liking green day those boys are punk to their soul and when your'e punk inside then your'e part of one massive family[no codes,no nothing no problem.cheers m8.
thejim789mac 2 months ago
@SquidLickShaun punk sees no colour punk sees no age all punk sees is spitting back at the people who piss on us, fun from 10-100 fuck the system.
nemmydoll 5 months ago
I don't know if I would classify Green Day as punk in relation to the UK scene but I think as Green Day matured they do/did have some good songs. Again not calling it punk but for what it is I think it sounds pretty good. I think the oddest thing is to compare apples and oranges like UK82 style punk to Green Day (which I would personally label "alternative") Green Day's older shit isn't bad but I'm sure younger generations won't admit it until they get outta the I'm more punk than u phase.
mixwell1983 4 months ago
@SquidLickShaun well said!! i was a teen in 76 / 77 when these bands hit the scene and it was fantastic..you gotta remember the music that was aired before was so bad and hardly any radio would play them also a lot of the public were so against it which made it more exciting..
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TheZensamurai 2 years ago
Where are these boys today, im a punk from the 80's and we need to keep this going, fuck PC, fuck the lie of global warming and fuck leftwing politics, thats all 3. FMOTL..ORG
Dannybhoy1969 2 years ago 4
Amen, i hate fucking lefties to, im punk to i dont do the spikey hair anymore though getting to old for it i just feel silly doing that stuff now, i still have the attitude though 26 now so i guess i count as being an original punk hate these new mainstream punks coming out they have no idea punk will never completly die
thomas242007 2 years ago
@thomas242007 so you were born in 83 or 84? punk started before you were born jackass, there's nothing original about that...
Alphabex8 1 year ago 3
uh oookay, i jjust said i was born in the right time period asshole,
thomas242007 1 year ago
@thomas242007 you didn't say anything about being born in the right time period. you said "I count as being an original punk" yet, you weren't around during the formation of it, so your wrong, that's all. i'm the same age but at least i know my roots.
Alphabex8 1 year ago
@thomas242007 lol, sorry, but you're a moron. when you were born, Johnny Rotten had left the Sex Pistols and Sid Vicious was dead. when the clash finally broke up, you were 2, maybe 3 years old. I even doubt, you ever saw the Ramones live, even though they lasted 'til 96. i come from the very same generation as you and alphabex, and I love those bands, much more than anything we could have possibly seen in the past 15 years. but it bothers me, that you call yourself an original punk.
spinaltap82 1 year ago
@Alphabex8 i was born in '92 and i consider myself to be a real punk. im not one of those mad posers who's all *grumpy face* 'im a punk, i hate you and i hate everything.' or one of those wee girls who like avril lavigne and green day and have this thing about 'electric pink' >.< i just listen to punk music and i love my dm's and bondage trousers. they're the only clothes i feel overly comfy in.
AllyTheIrishFaire 1 year ago
@AllyTheIrishFaire great
Alphabex8 1 year ago
Fuckin' true! U didn't mention an immigration! Cuz if u walk through the streets of London it makes u really... sick!...
Hollandia777 2 years ago
Hail Victory.!!
TheyHateUsNationals 2 years ago
88
14 words
TheyHateUsNationals 2 years ago
real punk is fading many people dot tae notie wich is a shame..there needs to be a proper band out there with meaning to it ratherthen shit like greenday hu say there punk
SquidLickShaun 2 years ago 4
Anti nowhere league last of the real punks outthere sad really when they retire or whatever they do then true punk will be dead
thomas242007 2 years ago 4
greenday is ust horrible isnt it them and goodcharlot what te uck right
thomas242007 2 years ago
@thomas242007 Good Charlotte I think is a Emo band they suck. Green Day is a washed up nineties band that need to hang there instruments up.
ImnotgodbutIownyou 1 year ago 3
@ImnotgodbutIownyou
Green day is Emo band in these days.
It's not been punk in long time.
PunkRockDude1 1 year ago 4
listen to the lyrics you bunch of tossers who walk past homeless people on your way to camden.... posing wankers, u make me puke. ps bet your dads and mums are rich middle class wankers too.
nixson7668 2 years ago
very true pal
davegrohl2k98 2 years ago
hellya to get an album like that
mackgocrazzy 2 years ago
hell yeah!! this is guuuuud!!
blojbabis 2 years ago
good old tune, thnx for posting
DSH1LL 2 years ago
Awesome...Punk isn't never dead!!!
Vancat 2 years ago
punk is never dead
punk isnt dead
^^ sry i could not resist
ah and yes this shit is THE shit !!! awesome
thekofferkuli 2 years ago 3
So true!!!
Vancat 2 years ago
punks not dead, but it deserves to die when it becomes another stale cartoon!
xxxKINGFROGxxx 2 years ago
They sound a bit like the Strangers from their brief punk phase. Listen to their songs Five Minutes and Something Better Change they have the same raw energy and menacing stance as this song.
InternetUser1999 2 years ago
I was listening this song when I was 14 years old...great song...
Now I'm 41 and still rocks...
Vancat 2 years ago
Way to go dad!
Alexiosbutcher 2 years ago 2
Sry...but I'm woman... :)
Vancat 2 years ago
Oops sorry
Alexiosbutcher 2 years ago
No problem hun...
Vancat 2 years ago
Some Oi anthems r simply immortal, u know!...
Hollandia777 2 years ago 3
oh yes...
Vancat 2 years ago
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Patsno01 2 years ago
this is classic punk and this is much better than simple punk
NakedDude007 2 years ago 4
respect. 5*
narancsleWilhelm 2 years ago 2
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ecracker44 2 years ago
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these guys are so fucking gay! for real people, why do you worship this band? omg go listen to the exploited or the threats...
mokuni 2 years ago
How about you go fuck off...
Kylev2 2 years ago
How could you say something like this about such a classic punk rock ballad?!?!
Hollandia777 2 years ago
wtf? you don't know nothing about punk If you say This! go to listen the early songs of Exploited and don't be annoying.
SalDOWN 2 years ago 2
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omg this brings back memories
mikkaklaar 3 years ago
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sex pistols never wrote a song half this good
dicanio150 3 years ago
Ralph McTell wrote this song but this is still an awsome version though
Folkmadgirl 3 years ago 9
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youre right i recal reading it was a cover
dicanio150 3 years ago
agreed.
Nofuture91 2 years ago
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i didnt now it was ant nowhere league
i thard it was sex pistols xD
9anarchyskater6 3 years ago
Anti nowhere league is way better!!
thomas242007 3 years ago 4
it sounds nothing like the sex pistols at all mate
teamspleen 3 years ago 21
fuck the sex pistols
MLGRegulaR 2 years ago 2
u know u sexpistols are shit
teamspleen 2 years ago
@teamspleen sex pistols did it first... this is a cover... does not mean it has to sound like them...
vicioushate 1 year ago
@vicioushate i didnt say it had to did a :S
teamspleen 1 year ago
@teamspleen
because it is good
DrDeathpwnsu 1 year ago
J/K pistols we not bad but unlike ANL you can count every good song they had on one hand
DrDeathpwnsu 1 year ago
@DrDeathpwnsu ayee this is true
teamspleen 1 year ago
@teamspleen a bit like a harder clash though eh mate?
paddonc 1 year ago
@paddonc yeeeee man
teamspleen 1 year ago
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ttheb64 1 year ago