So, you're saying the primary method of mental mockup-playback is less real than the visceral lean-on repetitive game of human programming? In terms of getting a job done. Silence is a part of imagination. When you play a piece through the 'minds eye' prone at night what is to prevent you from realizing a rest within the rhythmic structure/lowest common denominator/decomposition/reconstruction. Using a rest prior to sound is a necessary way of writing without a lot of overhead. Theme.
I don't know if you were replying to me in earnest or channeling Scriabin's spirit. I hope the latter.
All I meant is that five against four rhythms and six against five rhythms are intimidating - all the more so when there is a rest involved in one of the rhythms.
That's a given. The analytical mind, say as in plotting on graph paper 45 increments for a 5 against 9 flamme. You'd necessitate brain hemorrhage making sure each round of the other was equidistant to the other competing rhythm-flow. So, you invent a common beat and maintain that for both hands. Easier said than done. Right. But that's analysis. What you need is a left only and right only until complete off the trainer wheel. Then take the bike for a real spin down to Scriabin's house.
This guy (Hamelin) Has very conventional technique. I use him as a reference to how to play correctly. Even though this song is very difficult he maintains a fluidity in his arms you can tell there isnt any strain on the wrist a very good model to learn by.
Very conventional??? Fucking retarded brainless maggot!! Post a video of you showing your own technique, if you think this guy is conventional then you are lost man!! This guys eats virtuosos for breakfast and is the greatets virtuoso alive! conventional my ass!! stay in school sonny! you illiterate fuck
Hamelin's performance here is glib, aesthetically misinformed, and under-articulated. He presumes, wrongly, the presto to be driven by motoric speed rather than character. He consistently fails to grasp the rhythmic structure, particularly of 6 against 4. There is no rhythmic tension whatsoever, just a blurry wash of notes.
Fantastic playing, of course, and yet even MAH leaves out some aspects of this fantastic piece. If it's just that fraction too fast, too tite, some cross-rythms inevitably get lost. Some of the "caresses" could be warmer & softer, less britely lit....However, in the heat of the moment, and with his phenomenal capacities, one understands he can hardly stop himself running fast; still a remarkable achievement!
i actually play this piece. hamelin is virtuoso, and musical as well, but i think he made some justification of the articulation to show his technique. i prefer horowitz's interpretation.
Any friend of Sciabin's music is a friend of mine! Thank you for bringing out Hamelin's interpretation. Hamelin's dexterity, tempos, passion, and clarity is perfect playing the Great russians as Scriabin, Metner, Rachmaninoff, and now Kapustin. I can't say anymore about Hamelin than "I'm not worthy" LOL
Scriabin's sonata sounds like Scarlatti by Hamelin.
Oh my GOD....
risktakerdaito 1 year ago
very well done
DavidGodd 2 years ago
5:17 to 5:23 is amazing. I almost cried when I saw that 4 on 3 rhythym in the music lol.
aguyfromtexas 2 years ago
Scriabin's later music has terrifying rhythms to calculate! And he loves to have one of the rhythms begin with a rest.
wol4fram 2 years ago
So, you're saying the primary method of mental mockup-playback is less real than the visceral lean-on repetitive game of human programming? In terms of getting a job done. Silence is a part of imagination. When you play a piece through the 'minds eye' prone at night what is to prevent you from realizing a rest within the rhythmic structure/lowest common denominator/decomposition/reconstruction. Using a rest prior to sound is a necessary way of writing without a lot of overhead. Theme.
dalethomasdewitt 2 years ago
I don't know if you were replying to me in earnest or channeling Scriabin's spirit. I hope the latter.
All I meant is that five against four rhythms and six against five rhythms are intimidating - all the more so when there is a rest involved in one of the rhythms.
wol4fram 2 years ago
That's a given. The analytical mind, say as in plotting on graph paper 45 increments for a 5 against 9 flamme. You'd necessitate brain hemorrhage making sure each round of the other was equidistant to the other competing rhythm-flow. So, you invent a common beat and maintain that for both hands. Easier said than done. Right. But that's analysis. What you need is a left only and right only until complete off the trainer wheel. Then take the bike for a real spin down to Scriabin's house.
dalethomasdewitt 2 years ago
Sadly, that's actually one of the easier parts of this monster-of-a-piece! :P
Rheostatik 2 years ago
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Rheostatik 2 years ago
@aguyfromtexas and that's not even the worst of it...sigh. Great music comes at a price.
trigalg693 2 years ago
fantastic performance !
superlatives ....
To enlarge your perception of this piece you may also listen to Horowitz's performance in his american concert tours in 1975/76 RCA
There may be the demoniac side of the work revealed as never, as Horowitz used to do, with thousand colors
brunoparis12 2 years ago
His recording of the complete Scriabin sonatas is definitely the best out there!
patricioapaez 2 years ago
Pretty freaking good!
sll10 3 years ago 2
Actually he makes couple tiny mistakes in very difficult parts:)
katkula 3 years ago 2
228-229
nearenough3 3 years ago
Dobrivecher a malheureusement raison.
antoinezygfryd 3 years ago 2
This guy (Hamelin) Has very conventional technique. I use him as a reference to how to play correctly. Even though this song is very difficult he maintains a fluidity in his arms you can tell there isnt any strain on the wrist a very good model to learn by.
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Very conventional??? Fucking retarded brainless maggot!! Post a video of you showing your own technique, if you think this guy is conventional then you are lost man!! This guys eats virtuosos for breakfast and is the greatets virtuoso alive! conventional my ass!! stay in school sonny! you illiterate fuck
JOHNNYWADTON 2 years ago
Hahaha wow. What a DOUCHE XD
aguyfromtexas 2 years ago
this is music:)i love scriabin...
Svarniovci 3 years ago 5
I don't think it's possible for anyone to play this better. I really don't!
tompilk 3 years ago
Hamelin's performance here is glib, aesthetically misinformed, and under-articulated. He presumes, wrongly, the presto to be driven by motoric speed rather than character. He consistently fails to grasp the rhythmic structure, particularly of 6 against 4. There is no rhythmic tension whatsoever, just a blurry wash of notes.
dobrivecher 3 years ago
Too true
BOSOX9004 2 years ago
Fantastic playing, of course, and yet even MAH leaves out some aspects of this fantastic piece. If it's just that fraction too fast, too tite, some cross-rythms inevitably get lost. Some of the "caresses" could be warmer & softer, less britely lit....However, in the heat of the moment, and with his phenomenal capacities, one understands he can hardly stop himself running fast; still a remarkable achievement!
fartlestucks 4 years ago 2
i actually play this piece. hamelin is virtuoso, and musical as well, but i think he made some justification of the articulation to show his technique. i prefer horowitz's interpretation.
lovepiano1987 4 years ago
Phantastically played. The tension, passion and the contrasts are overwhelming.Marc Andre Hamelin is more than a virtuoso. Thanks for posting this
pollekepetaatekop 4 years ago 2
Any friend of Sciabin's music is a friend of mine! Thank you for bringing out Hamelin's interpretation. Hamelin's dexterity, tempos, passion, and clarity is perfect playing the Great russians as Scriabin, Metner, Rachmaninoff, and now Kapustin. I can't say anymore about Hamelin than "I'm not worthy" LOL
musicencyclopedia 4 years ago 2