Arudou Debito on Japan Podshow - part 3: The new trackable gaijin cards

[RadiantMirage]

Is Debito saying that he would support the IC cards if everyone in Japan had to carry them? I'm sorry, if that is so, that is still bullshit. Racial discrimination is not the issue. The problem is that government thugs think they can force their will on peaceful people.

[lionhartpld]

47 prefectures and 65 offices would be more than 1 per prefecture, not less than 1 per prefecture..

[novajoke]

I'm at odds with this guy. I understands his concerns and other non-Japanese living in Japan but what's the big deal carrying Gaijin Cards?? I carry my Permanent Resident Card(aka "Green Card") living in the States.

[drhikarisan]

@novajoke really pretty late i know but, the gaijin cards have to be carried on you 24/7 and a police officer can come up at any point and ask you for it without reason. and if what he says is true about having to go to an immigration office without having one near by is problematic as well. However some people say that officers abuse their right and harass gaijin by asking for their card. Personally I have no problem with it but I'm not in japan yet, the immigration office could be a problem

[novajoke]

@drhikarisan

Not as problamatic as in America, Britain, Canada when it comes to immigration. Japan has clear cut laws when it comes to immigration. You may view this one way or other but Japan is one of the safest country in the world because of strict immigration. Look what's happening in America, Britain, Canada?? Now America is thinking about granting millions of illegals with legal residency??  Amnesty for breaking the law?? What about people who obeyed the law?

[drhikarisan]

@novajoke I never said I had a problem with it, quite the oppposite for the most part. I do disagree with the idea of a trackable gaijin card as like he said it could lead to "walking while gaijin" encounters for those who choose naturalization. For the most part I dont agree with what debito says. Some of what he says is true but other parts he takes an extreme view on some things and in my opinion handles them the wrong way.

[novajoke]

@drhikarisan

LOL to all these "Debido" san's fan when it comes to carrying foreigner's registration card in Japan. Remember that most of them left their native country despite the fact that their native country is much better when it comes to lifestyle, basic rights, etc. etc. It's not Japan's responsibility to accommodate them but it's their responsibility to assimilate, obey the laws, customs and respect the Japanese culture.

[drhikarisan]

@novajoke just becasue you move to another country doesnt mean you dont have rights. Debito usually goes on about horrendously unfair treatment, however the reason I don't side with him is that #1 he sure seems to find a lot of it so something is amiss in my opinion and #2 he handles it the wrong way a good part of the time.

[novajoke]

@drhikarisan

Granted........ He can fight until he dies but Japan is slowly changing though.... but I don't want ever never Japan to look like state of California, Canada or Britain when it comes to immigration policy.

[drhikarisan]

@novajoke Indeed, I'm more for a much more peaceful reform of the way gaijin are treated and I believe that just by our presence there things are slowly changing. Perhaps It wont even entirely be in my life time but I would still much rather take it slowly and know that the Japanese will see that we're not all loud and annoying and shouting only about ourselves. I'd much rather they come to see gaijin as they see themselves

[drhikarisan]

@novajoke and I seriously hope the immigration policies dont end up like say in california. I love japans uniqueness, certainly there are a few things id like to see change but for the most part I enjoy their culture even more so then my own

[novajoke]

@drhikarisan

Thanks for the healthy dose of conversation. Not sure where you're from but I'd say California is now "MEXIfornia"... LOL! That state is bankrupt because of welfare paid to illegals, having kids without health insurance, overcrowded prisons, burden on public services, fighting crime, unemployment insurance, fighting gangs, fighting illegal drugs, etc. etc.....

[drhikarisan]

@novajoke also you cant just say that japan is so safe because of its immigration laws. Obviously that is not the only contributing factor. Overall I get the feeling you originally thought i was siding against you, but judging from your original comment we are in agreement. I see no problem with just carrying a gaijin card on me 24/7, thats not a big deal.