Roma, Eurobasket 1991 Finale - Italia vs Jugoslavia

[taubheiten]

It is amazing that the players of Yugoslavia won the gold medal at a time when civil strife was tearing their countries apart. Great team and a major achievement...!!!!!!

[jimsy73]

Quella nazionale jugoslava era una squadra fortissima...

[joevald32]

I see this great videos and I get very very sad!!! Dam how much I miss this great great Yugoslavia team and there great battles with Soviet Union. But todays formers Yugoslavias countrys are great with Serbia getting very strong with there young talent, Slovenia is great, Croatia 1992 olympic silver medalist and 1994 world championship bronze medalist are developing in great form, Boznia and Herezegovina are great to and Montenegro. You put these country together and we have a super team!!

[kennedybakircoglu]

"yugoslavia come caro armato - poesia e muovimento "

enough said by italian tv comentator... :)

[1katanac]

This is the greatest European team ever. This all player was from NBA

Petrovic, basketball mozart(white Jordan)

Kukoc, the most talented player from EU ever

Radja, maniak :)

Divac, legend centar

Danilovic, great bak shooter

Djordjevic, great playmaker

Paspalj, very good

Zdovc, very good

all from NBA, at late time Bodiroga, Scepanovic, Obradovic, Rebraca...

[upicku]

But you now what. It was not only basketball. Football. Mijatovic, Suker I don't wanna go further.

[mericolosa]

after that, war

[pyccel]

Quando a 0:25 compare il roster della Yugo vengono i brividi: che squadrone, che immensa montagna di talento. La più forte squadra europea di sempre. Solo la disgregazione del loro paese ha impedito che questa squadra dominasse per un decennio......senza contare che nel 91 gente come Djordjevic, Danilovic e Komazec erano ancora giovanissimi e non avevano ancora raggiunto l'apice. Come mai non c'era Drazen Petrovic?? Non mi ricordo più se era infortunato....

[crashboy0]

@pyccel Drazen non c'era perche voleva prepararsi bene per la prossima stagione nel NBA.

[sofetista]

drazen and stojian missed the 1991 eurobasket

[OVOJEJUGOSLAVIJA]

POESIA E MOVIMENTO...

[joevald32]

mislav check history puerto rico beat yugoslavia more than three times in there history. 1979, 1986, 1988 and 1990 in there last confontation in the worldchapionship in a game that puerto rico was losing by 20 points in the first half then puerto rico came back in the second half and win 77 to 70.

[artphanto]

What does Puerto Rico have to show for all those wins in the big competitions? 0 medals.... yes Puerto Rico was tough, but it was in round robin play!

[joevald32]

@artphanto I dont compare Puerto Rico with Yugoslavia, Yugaoslavia was a superteam and Puerto Rico is just a small island of 3 million people and still rank 10 in todays FIBA. We dont have the dicipline and power to maintaine the rythym to keep running the whole championship. But trust me beating Yugoslavia was like winnig a medal. Yugoslavias todays teams like Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia(my favorite), Montenegro still very powerfull because there great basket programs. We must learn.

[joevald32]

I mean i saw the USA and USSR 1986 world championship game live and David Robinson was just a college player at that time, Sabonnis was already a pro in euroleague and i think they were even. Sabonnis was more a team player who could do a lot of things in the court, like passing the ball he was a great outside shooter for a 7'3" center and very smart and David Robinson was more athletic, stronger and faster center and was a great middle range shooter for a 7'1" center.

[joevald32]

Vratijasesime, maby your are right in some points i saw that game live and yes there was overwhelmed referees in that olympics but Jordan is Jordan and Magic is Magic. Tell me what european player could move the ball better than Magic Jonhson or dominates the game like Michael Jordan? Nickos Gallis? Drazen Petrovic? Tony Kukoc? I dont think so. But that was in the past. Today the only players that can dominates the game Lebron James and Kobe Braynt. Today the NBA is dominated by EURO players.

[joevald32]

i played against this yugoslavian team in a friendly game in 1987, when i was playing for the puerto rico national team and they beat us 84 to 80. I saw the very organized basketball they played. They were always looking for a easy shot or three pointer. they were good on the half court offence but they dont run the fastbreak to much. But they all can shoot from long distance.

[mislav76]

in 87 this generation wazsn`t at it`s peak and they probably played half strenght against a team like puerto rico at the time(without underestimating puerto rico)as for the dream team vs this team,the americans would have probably won but certanly not as easy as 20 point margin remember that this team played together for a lot of time while the croatian team in 92 improvised more or less

[joevald32]

Check history my friend Puerto Rico have beaten Yugoslavia more than three times in the 1979, 1988 at the olimpics in seul, 1990 to times one in FIBA world chapionship and in the goodwill games. Is no dout that Yugoslavia was better but  not subestimates Puerto Ricos national team is a small island with a big history in basketball. Actualy we three NBA players Carmelo Anthony, Carlos Arroyo and Jose Juan Barea.

[SrlePopovic]

Yes, but anybody who watch basketball carefully knows these facts about Puerto Rico. I think as mater of fact that Yugoslavia had a negative complete score with Puerto Rico. They beat us when we were the strongest...

Only problem with Puerto Rico is that their team has no power to keep such rhythm through the whole championship...

[joevald32]

Man thats true. Look i am from Puerto Rico and i am a great fan of european basketball specialy GREECE and the former YUGOSLAVIA. By that time we haved a great team the use and could go toe to toe with any euro power but you are so right we dont have the power or the dicipline to keep that rhythm all the way. But today PR team is not the same we dont use the european style the we used in the 80 and 90, now we dont have the team spirit like european teams. You are right.

[joevald32]

Remember that today Yugoslavian teams are going to be great again is just mater of time. Example is Croatia, Slovenia and Serbia they have a lot of talent and they are developing young talent players that in a near future are going to be in the top 5 in Fiba ranking with Spain and the great GREECE. For me Serbia is going to be the strongest they have a few players playing well in the NBA. Your country have a great basketball program of developing young talent, we dont have that and we needed.

[joevald32]

partibrejkersi. I dont know what the hell you said there but dont get mad i am just pooting mi opinion thats all. Yugoslavia was a very powerful team but they dont have the quality of a full team like THE DREAM TEAM of 1992. Dont tell me that Vlade Divac could go hand t hand with the stronger and more talented center David Robinson, or Patrick Ewing. I like Yugoslavian players they were good but not like Jordan or Magic or Stockton, Malone, Barkley, Drexler, Pippen, Bird, Mullin. Be realystic.

[Vratijasesime]

joevald, check out the video of 1986 world championships championship game between USSR and USA. I think it is called something like "Sabonis before injuries" and see how the likes of David Robinson can't be handled. I tend to agree, however, that Yugoslavia would not stand a fair chance in the 1992 Olympics - 1st US NBA player-based team, the overwhelmed referees afraid of Barkley, can't make a call against Jordan etc.

[joevald32]

you guys are nuts? The Dream Team of 92 would crash this yugoslavian team. The crush the croatian team by 32 points with Petrovic and Kucok in that team. Do you realy think that Vlade Divac was better than David Robinson or Patrick Ewing? I dont think so budy. Man to man this USA team was complete team in all areas. Do you realy think that Drazen Petrovic or Danilovic were better than Magic Jonhson and Michael Jordan? You guys are very sick or mentaly ill. PLEASE!!!!

[partibrejkersi]

September 05, 2002. do you remember ?

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[98091238]

the result would have been closer had the entire Yugoslavia competed as one team but the Dream Team would have won by about 20 points

but it shouldn't be underestimated how good a generation of basketballers Yugoslavia produced in the late 80's and early 90's... only the Americans were better

[APMUMBP]

@joevald32 I had no idea it was an I game and not a team game. Not that USA would not have won. But, just cause you have the best players it doesnt mean you have the best team.

[joevald32]

@APMUMBP Yes you are right.. Iam just saing that this Yugoslavias team was a superteam and i realy think they could give real problems to the first usa dream team..they didnt have the phisical strenght like usa but they know all the fundamentals and logics of the game..thats the better part of Yugoslavia TEAMS SPIRIT.

[putalj1]

Pa ovo su Kukoč i Rađa uz podršku Perasovića, sami rješili!

[grenlandr]

Guardate qui gli artisti! Non il basket americano...solo muscoli e atletica.

[grenlandr]

evo ovo smo izgubili sa jebenim ratom. Hvala glupim političarima. I Dream team 92 bi nabili.

Jeli si zamislite koliko zlata bi do danas imali u košarci, nogometu, vaterpolu, odbojci...?

Ecco qui igrandi cestisti della Yugoslavia. Eravamo i piu grandi non soltanto nel basket ma anche nel calcio, pallavolo...

Pallanuoto: Pensate cosa succederebbe se si faccesse una team dei migliori giocatori della Serbia, Montenegro e Croazia...

YUGOSLAVIA = LA SUPERFORZA SPORTIVA

[sofetista]

drazen and vrancovic did not play in Eurobasket 1991 for political reasons

[Vratijasesime]

Sofiesta that is not true. Petrovic was with the Portland Trail Blazers of the NBA, and at that time NBA teams were not willing to release their players to national teams unless a very high insurance compensation was paid beforehand. The team could not "afford" Petrovic. Vrankovic was a national team irregular and i do believe he had some injury problems, but i can't be sure

[FraAKM]

@Vratijasesime Vranković played at every tournament from 1985 to 1989 but he didn't play for Yugoslavia after he went to the Celtics in 1990. I can't remember if there was injury problems but I just wanted to clear up that he was indeed a regular member of the national team.

[darnak2005]

@FraAKM professional players(NBA) weren't allowed back then,untill 92 and the dream team i remember correct)

[FraAKM]

@darnak2005 Divac went to the NBA in 1989 and he played for Yugoslavia in '89, '90 and '91...Paspalj also went to the NBA in 1989 and he was in the Yug team in '90...

[papaparanoya]

@Vratijasesime I don't think it had anything to do with insurance...Divac was the starting center for the LA Lakers who played in the NBA finals that year. I'm certain his insurance compensation wasn't higher than that of Drazen, who played very little for the Blazers/Nets untill the 91/92 season. The war in Yugoslavia was already starting, and Petrovic was in this way showing his support for Croatia separating, as was Vrankovic, and Zdovc (Slovenia). If we could have just hung on till 92/93..;)

[VRLE19BL]

ustanite gospodo talijani i skinite sesir ovim majstorima-kapa do poda

[dvasvrdla]

This was probably the last game of this very talented Yugoslav generation under the same flag. If I am not mistaken, Jure Zdovc had just left the squad before this final. I don't see Drazen Petrovic either, but Sretenovic from Jugoplastika did just fine. Perasovic, another Jugoplastika man, had number 5. According to a much later Kukoc interview, Velimir Perasovic was the only guy who had any idea about what was to happen, as he was reading the newspapers.

[dvasvrdla]

This was really just a bunch of young guys who loved to play basketball, had talent and worked very hard on top of that. Every basketball historian will have this team in their hall of fame, along with the generation of Mirza Delibasic in 70's - 80's.

[romano00154]

Whom does Istria belong??? To Yugoslavia??? ... Well, I've been looking for it, but I cannot find a country called "Yugoslavia" in any actual geographic map... ;-P

[entikurbugudu]

and what makes those three stand out of all others is one characteristic-the fact that all three of them played game ahead of their time...they were "avantguard"...and the fact that all three were croats...well it does make me proud,but,still i think i am not being biased...

[entikurbugudu]

agree,but i must say that i find three european best basketball players ever to be 1.drazen petrovic 2. kreso cosic 3.toni kukoc, and then all those other great stars...but these three,i think,stand out...respest,serbian brothers,but i think this is true...

[romano00154]

I don't like the communist Jugoslavia, but I respect their great national basket team: they had been the best in Eurupe and the second place after them was a honour for Italy!

[sofetista]

i believe that united Yygoslavia could beat the USA at Olympics1992......and think that Drazen and Stojan miss.........think both of them teammates with Galis at PAO BC......but the car accident didnt allow us see it

Nick

[robert1mk]

@sofetista drazen played for croatia at 1992 olympics.he wasn't dead by this time.

[Dkouts57]

@sofetista

maybe they could beat them one miracle game out of 10....but overall they would get rocked 90%+ of the time

[papaparanoya]

@sofetista

The car accident was in 1993, olympics were in 1992

[upicku]

everybody could try but nobody could defeat these kids!!!! Only yugoslavian national league was where they can defeat eachother with the army of fans behind them!!!! Miss yu

[PETROforever]

Great game... soon I will put hole game Italy-Yugoslavia from 1989 EuroCup... Greetings from Croatia

[hallihallohallochen]

i swear to you all,yugoslavia was the best team ever,they could beat the dream team in 92. Yugoslavia was the most beautiful place on earth!

[vdven]

And that was the end of Yugoslavia

[ziolupe]

i know the best basketball players of the former Jugoslavija were born in Bosna...

[skaplano]

I use to say that this team could have baten the Dream Team in 1992. People say I am crazy to think that but anyway I've never changed my mind. We'll never know unfortunately.

[BornInYUG]

Yugoslavia volim te!

[1978COL]

that was the last time i saw yugoslavia play together,i fall in love on that team

im italian but that yugoslavia team was a dream

with kukoc,divac,danilovic,radja.

[iceberg81]

ti riferisci alla yugoslavija attuale ,oppure??

[jugoboy77]

amo l'italia ma devo dirlo a calcio siete + forti voi ma a basket scusate ma comandiamo noi!!!

[tasmari]

I partly accept what you say but the Serbs won their titles when Kukoc and Radja stopped playing for Croatia(with the exception of Eurobasket 95) and after Petrovic died.That does not mean that the Serbs are not a great basketball school.However,if you see the basketball squads of Yugoslavia the Croats always outnumbered the Serbs.For example,in Seoul 1988 the only Serbs of the team were Divac and Obradovic(Paspalj is Montenegrin).

[argm74]

Yeah but in Eurobasket 1991 7 players of Yugoslavia were Serbs (paspalj also considers himself as Serb). And Serbia had also many great playes like Korac, Dalipagic, Slavnic, kicanovic and latter on Divan Paspalj Savic Djordjevic Danilovic.

Moreover since the breakup of united Yugoslavia they were far more successful than the Croats.

[AcoK93]

Sorry tasmari but Serbs were always the best in basketball, they prove that by winning tons of titles without croatian players, as for the croatians they are not able to win a single gold medal since they're not playing anymore with the Serbs. That's a fact.

[tasmari]

Kukoc-Radja:simply the best!They won the match by themselves.The Croatians always had the best players in joint Yugoslavia(Cosic,Kukoc,Petrovi­c,Radja).

[IOAMONAPOLI]

COMUNQUE FORZA ITALIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[zquercus]

european only?

[Yug89]

Unfortunately thay had no chance to play against original dream tean in Barcelona 1992

Yugoslavia was broken in 1991

[DiabloRoma]

Yes, and some people say that Yugoslavia, united, with Drazen Petrovic, COULD BEAT USA Team. Or they could really scare them.

[jhordanian]

The fact that the great Yugoslav basketball team could not stay together was but another sad consequence of the disentigration of the country. Could they have beaten the US Dream Team in 92'? I really dobut it, but I think they could have kept it close until late in the game. Perhaps they might have lost by about 10? Maybe, maybe they could have stayed in the game until the last minutes, like Spain did in 08'. It really is amazing the bball talent Yugoslavia produced in the late 80s+early 90s.

[Yug89]

This team(Yugoslavia) is the best european team ever!

[MarcIN3215]

@Yug89 Spain now is as good or more than that.