Ryan Spreading a Debate Case

[hyrax786]

dear commentators: Just so you know, this isn't me. I actually just recorded my future roommate "spreading" to demonstrate bad presentational speaking for a class on presentational speaking....

Spreading is WRONG! It is not an example of good speech pracice, and therefore must DIE!

Actually I don't care that much... but quit saying "You need to do this and that" because I really don't care and you're clogging my inbox. Thanks

-A

[K9sRULE242]

@hyrax786 um...tell that to all the policy and LD debaters out there. Watch them mangle you with their spreading.

[hyrax786]

@K9sRULE242 spreading is good for policy debate and, sometimes (depending on your region and mainly on your judge) for LD debate. In the real world, though, it's useless and doesn't provide any strength to your argument, unless you plan to be an auctioneer... if you're still doing high school debate, have fun with it, but keep in mind real speeches need to be understood.

[K9sRULE242]

@hyrax786 Actually, because people spread, it helps your critical thinking skills and your skill to come up with ideas on the spot since you have to talk and give out ideas so fast.

[yomamma776]

Your spreading sucks. You need to do more pen drills. It sounds like you're saying nothing at all but jibberish.

[allysonp66066]

i dont care how you put it, if you spread, no one will be able to hear or understand what you are saying. it is very frustrating to hear your opponent spread when you are trying to take notes so that you can discuss their argument, and it really isn't fair because you win by default because no one can understand you, making them unable to attack your arguments. maybe that is the point, but it is a very conniving and illogical way of going about your debate.

[atrujillo9]

@allysonp66066 The thing is that the judges and each opponent can and do understand what you are saying. One learns quickly and one's ear can quickly become accostomed to listening to people speak quickly and one can realize if it is a good or bad argument even at high speeds. If no one understood anyone no one would debate.

[TheRealChrisAllen]

@allysonp66066 You're wrong, though. Almost everyone can understand spreading except for you.

[allysonp66066]

@TheRealChrisAllen i was looking at your channel, nice vids btw. but i couldnt help but notice recent activity; do you look at debate videos and comment about how stupid everyone is for fun? because it sure seems like it :P

[TheRealChrisAllen]

@allysonp66066 Well, I was at NFL Nationals and bored in my hotel room. So I decided to look up debate spreading and was incredibly disappointed. Then, I saw the comments and was even more disappointed.

[allysonp66066]

@TheRealChrisAllen aww thats cute. so you didn't have anything better to do. well i hope you did well at nationals! (in all sincerity)

[iliveforthis13EN]

THATS RIDICULOUSLY SLOW.

[MrJakeviales]

that was me as a novice like no joke i did that final round in class as a novice.

[baseballreg123]

this is not spreading... i understood what you were saying the entire time

[CivilEscape]

@baseballreg123 Why, in any reasonable realm of reality, is this a bad thing?

[baseballreg123]

@CivilEscape i was making a sarcastic comment dumb shit

[CivilEscape]

@baseballreg123 Well, fucker, that was really clear by your text with no punctuation or implied inflection. Thanks for being really rude to my generally moderate comment.

[baseballreg123]

@CivilEscape you are welcome. there i punctuated

[hopper727rs]

how many words did you say in that 3:33 amount of time?

[mackler]

You call that spreading? I had to play it at double speed just to understand what he's saying.

[sportfan1234]

this isnt even that fast... it is very clear though so that is a good trade off... this is probably 200 words per minutes, a fast debater can surpass 350 wpm.

[kitkatpolicy59]

Your ear becomes trained to flow this, and i think he is very clear compared to this one guy that was spreading with a heavy foreign accent...that was hard....

[camreeno360]

Is it even useful to talk that fast?

[gibbsisawesome]

@camreeno360 It actually is in policy debating. Debate spreaders talk that fast so that their opponent can't possibly cover all of the points of their argument in the rebuttal. For every point not covered by their opponent, they get points with the judges. And yes, spreading is completely acceptable to policy debate judges.

[camreeno360]

@gibbsisawesome But we're missing the point here. Focusing on talking fast detracts from the issues being debated about, and it becomes a contest of who can cram in the most words and points possible instead of focusing more on a few cogent points. Talking slower and focusing on fewer points would be more productive, not to mention it would be much easier for an audience.

[gibbsisawesome]

@camreeno360 Yeah, I agree. That's why I don't spread. But some people don't care about that stuff and just want to beat their opponent.

[ubermensch826]

@camreeno360 why do you equate talking fast with saying a lot of shitty arguments? spreading is used to go deeper into an argument and make it more fleshed out. if a debater does in fact shitspread, then they will lose. A good argument is a good argument and a bad argument is a bad argument, regardless of how fast it is said

[camreeno360]

@ubermensch826 The point I'm making is that talking this fast will not work with an ordinary audience. Debating should'nt be a activity reserved for those with some superhuman speaking and listening ability, but should be accessible to the public. In this case it isn't. If most people can't understand what is being said then it defeats the purpose of arguing.

[ubermensch826]

@camreeno360 there's a debate event accessible to general audiences, it's called public forum. so why don't you just leave the other activities alone and do/watch pf rounds

[atomikadarkhero]

@camreeno360

The reason why LD Debaters and Policy Debaters spread is b/c if we didn't, then the normal person would usually cast their vote based on how they sound or look. On the local tournaments that I attend, voting always comes down to who better attempts to persuade, not through what they actually say. Thus, by spreading, you force other people to listen to what u are actually saying rather than how you say it.

[LlamaNamedOsama]

N00bs who think this is policy/should stick with policy. It's a pretty lay case from Mar-Apr 09

[NightShadeslayer]

So...

what do people 'spread' for in a debate?

[desidork000]

pretty slow...

[DaVietPride]

quite slow to be honest or he is actually pausing so that means we dont feel it is fast

[Rhuiedian]

This is slow.

[sherrstar84]

this is spreading??? this is slow

[sgjvm410h]

I have no idea how I would flow this. At least in policy you can read the people's cards

[AlannaPwnsAtDebate]

GREAT clarity! i'm an LDer and I spread cases all the time. They are still 6 minutes on the aff and 4 on the neg. But then again, I'm working on training my novice to be my policy partner... (:

[MrJudL]

Speed kills in LD.

[bradley1307]

@MrJudL no speed kills debate no matter what form :(

[ACC7386]

Ryan Lester spreading..duhh

[vampyre88]

why are all debaters morons?

[BlueKenshin]

Just the ones who spread their cases

[vampyre88]

No, all of them.

[BeforEvilsDemise]

i like your "classic logic"

[Eskimobob525767]

Go back to Policy Debate.

[thirdwheelfilms]

Get out of LD please. Spread all you want in policy, but its retarded in LD.

[SierraCheyennee]

This is really good. Super clear.

[punkymonkeyrt]

I love seeing novices when they here me/anyone spreading like this. :)

It's an entertaining look.

Kudos for clarity--not many can achieve it, but watch the "CX gasps" :D

[tearitrightup]

AWESOME! This is one of the only policy rounds in which I actually understood what the fuck the policy debater is saying.

Niiiice. I definitely should speak faster during debate.

[SunlandicTwin]

Flowable. No prob.