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  • SPEECHLESS!!!! only one word-- AWESOMEEEEEEEEEE! :) :)

  • his enthusiasm is infectious :\

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  • The future is here:D

  • FAKE AND GAY

  • @qwince112 This is not fake, it has been introduced by handful of tech sites. But frankly, youre GAY

  • Bill is currently fake in this video. But I love the entire technology presented!!

  • wait did he just scan the paper using a display device and generated a 3D image from a bad quality 2D photo. Wow ... is this clip from a 90's sci-fi movie ?

  • @rockgird If you avoid being a dick and read about surface you would have learnt how it can scan documents. THe 2D image has not beenconstructed into a 3d image. There are 2 models, 2D and 3D for the same house and they can be accessed through different devices and interfaces.

  • @jovialn so basically you already have a stored 3D model right, you are clicking a picture and comparing it with the 2D parts of the 3D model and displaying it ...

    WOW that's quite ingenious Einstine ... image search is so very tough :P

  • Oh my goodness this blows my mind!

  • BIM or Building Information Modeling , contains not only the image but more advanced items like dimensions, pricing even SKU numbers. They also are added to the 3D Modeling program in categories (Interior Lighting - Doors). That is how a door knob can be pulled off the internet and added to the model.

    A photo can be 'applied' to an existing data base using its' basic form , applying the new dimensions. The active category , 'Lamps' it is recognized as such when he says ' Place Lamp'

    Zman

  • BIM or Building Information Models (ing) , contains not only the image but more advanced items like dimension, pricing even SKU numbers. They also are added to the 3D Modeling program in categories (Interior Lighting - Doors). That is how a door knob can be pulled off the internet and added to the model.

    A photo can be 'applied' to an existing data base using its' basic form , applying the new dimensions. The active category , 'Lamps' it is recognized as such when he says ' Place Lamp'

    Zman

  • In order to render the 3d model of an object using pictures, the software MUST have pictures of the different angles. It can't make it up! He took a single picture of that lamp. Software doesn't have imagination. And when the guy makes a model of the lamp and says "Place the lamp on the shelf". If it is a newly rendered lamp, how does the software know it IS actually a "lamp". It must have been rendered before. For all it knows it could be a cow, a mace or any unknown objects.

  • Wow! Can't wait for a windows surface tablet PC!!

  • omg!!

  • hi god.

  • Architecture and software engineering unholy union.

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  • nigga version: Slap that bitch into place! YEAAAAAH!

  • this guy looks like Elliot Goblet

  • Either this is fake or it's too deceiving. You can't take a photo of something and the computer will render in 3d perfectly. This whole thing is scripted. useless.

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  • How can he get a 3D model of a lamp he just took a photo of?

  • I m liking it, but the whole "I'm going to take a photo of the lamp" and then it renders it perfectly seems a little unlikely...

  • That was bloody amazing! keep up the good work. cant wait to see it in 10 years time.

  • Si c'est un fake il est réussi parce que J'ADORE !!!!!!!

  • FAKE

  • Bill... place the lamp on the shelf - I'm afraid i can't do this, Dave!

  • Nice fake stats of the loading screen.

  • And people say Microsoft isn't doing anything cool, surface has been BA from day 1!

  • Would of liked an in depth technical analysis.

  • всякую херь разрабатывают :(

    Лучше б каталогизатор файлов сделали нормальный

  • Awesome! Nothing to say more... :D

  • There's a blog post on HitTestVisible from two of the developers that worked on this project. Go have a look at it - it's got a video and some photos of this demo in action at TechEd Australia.

  • the part where they import real objects onto the virtual building and the document scanning looked fake.

  • Looks pretty unreal, i wonder how much work was done.

  • "enjoy"?! i ran out of words about it... outstanding!

  • my brain nearly short circuited due to the number of times it had to process the words "door handle"

  • amazing application,

    

  • aannnnddd.... wouldn't have been faster to just order it online in a regular desktop/laptop and send the guy a pic of the new door handle?

  • after this doesn't catch on at first, apple will make a better but more expensive version that doesn't crash.

  • All is possible except the lamp. There was no 3D camera on that tablet, and even if there was, it wouldn't take a picture of the other side of the lamp.

    I guess a computer could render the building automatically using the blue prints, but there was no second floor on the blueprints .... sooo.

    Bah, whatever. They should have just said its a concept video

  • @jbaev they did show the floor plan of the second floor, briefly. it runs lengthways in the middle of the building. I have seen most if this tech before, its all do-able and I have done a lot of work using the .net framework, sure its not ready for mass market but more years of iteration and it'll get there

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  • @rodricav "They're all fake, video edition"' What makes you think that?  Being a .NET engineer myself, I didn't see anything here that was impossible.

  • @ScientificBob I don't see all this being useful in real world. It'd better if we enter in a 3D chamber and interact with virtual objects. All this gadgets and gadgets transfering gigabytes wirelessly are useless. Only more and more gadgets. In my perspective, I'd rather the real world.

  • @rodricav I think it's a necessary hassle we need to go through. The digital landscape is changing fast. And everybody in the business wants to make as much money as possible along the way.

    I think what it will lead to eventually might be some type of glasses or something which will give us some kind of "augmented reality". Software blending with the real world. I'm seeing baby steps (or even embryo steps) in the Nintendo DS. I hope I live to see the day. :-)

  • @ScientificBob As time goes by, this would be real in a couple of years. I bet no more than 10 years.

  • @ScientificBob As time goes by, this would be real in a couple of years. I bet no more than 10 years.

  • @ScientificBob As time goes by, this would be real in a couple of years. I bet no more than 10 years.

  • as soon as i get this im gonna pull the biggest robbery

  • Very impressive in terms of handling the information & processing. Not commercially any use in my opinion. Talk about over complicating ordering 3 door handles & a lamp!

  • is it realy?

    noobs its is real

  • Wtf error try agian

    Cant post my comments

  • Youtube sucks!!!

    

  • Holy. Crap.

    If any of this is real, it's pretty damn AWESOME!!

    However, I like how the video was edited in iMovie on an Apple Mac... The title and credit screens are very much iMovie... Hehehe.

  • at 6:05 the lamp is to his left!!

  • idk its kind of hard to believe all this.. taking photos and rendering them into 3D wtf? unless this was all pre-coded shit? technology is fkn crazy..

  • Very complex interface.

  • Neil was sent from the future to give the tech industry a bit of a boost. The aliens were getting board with our level of technology.

  • I WANT!!!

  • WTF!?

  • Love the use of the Eee Slate. What is that on the back, a sticker to help the Surface technology recognize the device?

  • we've come along way in the past 10 years. technology is great.

  • Impossible? Impossible is for pussies.

  • Nice, but fake. It's impossible to generate a 3D model based on a 2D photo! Notice how the camera was showing the guy and not the screen when he was supposedly "selecting the lamp" out of the picture which then magically appears all in 3D... that's because it's impossible.

  • @ethaneveraldo I wouldn't say it's impossible... image recognition software exists, in which case it could estimate the symmetry of an object based on the object, and create some highly probable 3d construction from a photo... just as we know that since it's a lamp the blue part will be axially symmetric. If we have knowledge to accurately create the lamp in our head, it's getting to the point that computers with only a photo can make the same assessment.

  • @hughtub Thank you for pointing this out however I hate to say this but you are wrong, just like this video. The current situation with automated 3D images generation is such that the most advanced 3D companies aren't even able to come up with something that actually works. The closest to a fully working 3D (not through lazer-scanning -- those have been around for a while -- but with a simple 2D camera) is called Project PhotoFly and is still being developed and requires tenth if not hundred of

  • @hughtub *if not hundreds of pictures just to get a merely approximate 3D image of the thing... Using the way you are saying, if they were to just use image recognition (without 3D reconstruction), that would be nonsense because it would require them to build an absolutely gigantic library with an almost infinite amount of objects of any kind, and miraculously the object scanned would be in that library and would recognize it. Nice for a tech demo, but in real life it'll never work.

  • @hughtub I'm sorry to differ, but there is difference between "highly probable" and "just freaking perfect". The 3D structure created had not a single distortion.

    Secondly, in our heads we can structure objects because of two principles

    1) Binocular Sight, getting information from two angles with both eyes. Believe me, this only provides lesser information about depth than you might think

    2) Our mental ability to perceive images. We have enought knowledge about millions of objects around us

  • @hughtub to understand and "estimate" the depth.

    Here the structure was HIGHLY accurate. This is sure folly. Engineers working in Depth mapping and 3D perception for computer vision have been working for years and failed to such highly accurate 3D map even with Stereo cameras or Lasers.

  • @omkark97

    yeah, lamp detail is fake ;)

  • I love this future.

  • If this's true, I'll have it reconstruct young Britney's 3D model from her image and ask "Bill, show me her boobs"

  • How did the camera crew travel to year 2030??? this is insane!

  • Great way to build up the future for us. Its so cool

  • great another microsoft vs apple flame... sorry for mentioning Microsoft, but the surface is their product... let's ignore the company behind this and just focus on the product and video... I'm just saying most of it is faked: camera angles, 3d scanning, surface map UI looks like it's taken from a cheesy movie(1:00), cheesy 3d plan with lots of writing on the side(1:22).. and the video description is "some of the work the wizards at nsquared have been creating" - wow, so they're in special fx?

  • to all the amazements at the lamp scanning, the lamp is extremely generic. I believe this software cannot render anything that isnt already in digital form somehow. It is easy to make it recognize the lamp from the picture and then render the closest thing to it in a database.

    And thats probably how it works.

  • @Mythicall If it is just searching for a 3D model of a lamp that's already in a database then he shouldn't present it as being a 2D image being scanned & rendered as a 3D image.

    I'm calling bullshit until he shows us the technology working outside of his carefully prepared video presentation. If he showed this at a trade show, and he could demonstrate a 2D image to 3D render, like in this video, of a pineapple (that I randomly produce) then I'd buy just that aspect of the software on the spot

  • obviously a TROLL!

  • sucks

  • I do have a couple of questions about this video...

    Mainly, my problem comes in with the 2D to 3D idea - If it was added for effect, it's misleading, if it's real, I'll eat my hat.

    The closest you get to this (that I at least know of) is Project Photofly by Autodesk (google it), and for that you need 30-40 images of an object!

    And yes, the guy presenting is boring as sin - harsh but true.

  • i want this man to work on my next xbox,

  • Its an evil plan by microsoft to regain their lost monopoly to apple :D :D

  • Very cool. Unbelievable

  • Good idea in a boring tone.

  • This is crazy.

  • Virus, Virus evereywhere!!!

  • 3:33 Bill, take me to the masterbate room.

  • This is such fake, staged, bullshit. How the hell does he get a 3D rendering of his lamp by taking a picture of it? Why would any normal person need this bloated, gimmicky software?

  • @kopmis microsoft already has this technology. 

  • @kopmis he has a program on his thingymabobby to like make anything that isnt 3D a 3D image on the big screen DURRRRR

  • Yeah, i love windows(not a fanboy).

  • this would be great for studio layout and design - if you could build a modular synth in this environment you would have something i could use

  • This is exactly what Bill Gates was taking about in interviews back 5 or so years ago. The most notable chat of this was his interview at D when he was in an interview with Steve Jobs.

  • Oceans 11 can put this to work somehow

  • I'm loving the ridiculous unneeded graphics for the rendering and stuff, it's like I'm actually in a cheesy 80's movie

  • @TheLovableMan2 It was chosen over the default loading bars as something that would appeal to non-tech people/general consumers (managers) too.

  • @TheLovableMan2 just like the bling bling sounds :D:D

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  • SUBSCRIBED! this is really great stuff!

  • cool, MS is amazzzzing

  • This is really cool.

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  • 90% of everything done in this video can be done on a single surface. Why complicate things and bring info from an cell phone onto a table surface, then onto a tablet and then onto a big screen (when you are already standing in front of 2 other screens). Talk about redundancy.I do like the document scanning feature and the seemless adding of 2D objects from a website into a 3D world, those were cool.

  • @adeptusluminati He'st just showing you a demonstration, he's not expecting you to use all of these devices at once. Common sense.

  • this is perfect for burglars

  • As it stands, this technology looks very interesting, but I would love to know what is actually working right now and what is just for show.

    If you have software that will render 3D objects from 2D images that quickly then I would probably buy that software tomorrow. If it's bullshit then you'd better start adding disclaimers to your videos showing what is real and what isn't.

  • I'm guessing that the wireless connection between the various devices is working in real-time, that "Bill" is limited in the number of commands that it can recognise, that the rendering animations were just added for effect, and that the rendering of a 2D image into an accurate virtual 3D object doesn't actually work at all, and was just added as a concept for effect.

  • Okay, I'd really like to see this done again, with the actual working technology separated from half-working tech and concepts that aren't actually working yet.

    The "rendering" animations and dynamic backgrounds look great, but please cut out all the glitter and show us what your system is fully capable of doing.

  • that microsoft surface table is amazing

  • This is the way it should be. No muss, no fuss. Congrats.

  • What a hoax. Seriously, shame on you for creating this video. The technology of surface is awesome, but pretending you can snap single photos of objects which magically become perfect 3d models with shaders discredits this whole demonstration.

  • Just, just... WOW! Fake or real - it's an inspirational look at what's possible.

    Nice job.

  • this is amazing.

  • I'm sorry, but some of this looks totally faked. You can't take a 2d picture of a lamp and then get a perfectly rendered 3d model out of it. Maybe if you used some kind of kinect-like technology, but that type of camera isn't included on the windows tablet. I'd also like to point out that the interfaces in part of this demo weren't realistic. (Too showy, not very practical.)

    I do like the idea of seamless computing though - and the stuff in this video here that does look plausible is amazing.

  • Sci-Fi -> Science Fact

  • My mind is blown. This is something of the future.

  • All I see from Microsoft and developers are a lot of concept videos without any real groundbreaking product. And about these guys, I think they should keep to themselves until they have something to show, some actual meaningful product that customers would actually be able to use. As I said, this is just Sci-Fi until then, and Sci-Fi doesn't count as innovation.

  • @daemeh this doesn't even come from Microsoft. If he used iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, or whatever the hell it is, then it would be "magical" for you, wouldn't it?

  • And they say Microsoft can't innovate? Piss off ;L Only Microsoft could do something like this and now that Google and Apple have gone and woken the big M up (as much I don't like them, thanks for that btw), they're gonna go all out guns blazing and from the looks of it, blow our minds :)

  • Nice stuff. Shame it is not on an open source platform.

  • @DavidTangye If people want it on an open source platform, they're free to go and code it themselves. It's called "open source" for a reason.

  • @mciumeica Do you think the API for the Microsoft Surface is released under GPL? If not, any open source effort would be locked out by Microsoft, which would be what I would expect of them.

  • @DavidTangye Well they built it, so it's theirs to do with as they please. Can't blame someone for that. There are some open source alternatives to Surface, though, like Cubit or Touchkit.

  • Thanks @Greyice13, this is all working code. In the coming weeks we will explain how it works.

  • @nsquaredmagic Only one question! Can u post the link of the Design Co website? Or create a 3D wire-frame of my DP :P

  • It's like watching a bad Sci-Fi movie.. most of the stuff in this video is fake - camera angles, voice recognition, 3D lamp model from a photo?? Come on... Stop making fiction and create some real products...

  • @daemeh You are abviously an Imbecile

  • @daemeh most of the stuff in the video is completely doable and has been done before, just not integrated together like that .. try doing some googling, it's common knowledge that voice recognition is available with kinect through the Microsoft Kinect Speech Platform, lol .. scanning in the lamp is prolly the only unrealistic thing in the whole video

  • @Greyice13 That same lamp is sitting on the shelf behind him when he's looking at the big screen. ;)

  • @daemeh - the product is call "software". How is it fake? It's not even hard to do, if i had the resources (first by having a $10,000 Microsoft surface) i can do it. 

  • @gerjaison it's a software simulation of what their final product would look like, but the simulation is full of unrealistic features, that's what I'm saying. Most features in the video that got people excited aren't feasible in a finished product. Unless they're actually trying to make some kind of linear game instead of a software tool for architects.

  • @daemeh You really have no clue, the whole point of the demo is to get people thinking about developing for a range of different devices in one go, instead of one app on your phone, or one app for a slate, think of launching an angry bird from the surface, see it fly over the screens of your slate and phone, and then it crashes into pigs on your laptop - again, this seems like a useless product, but the CONCEPT is proven. This is not intended to be a published architecture solution.

  • @gerjaison all just WCF, XNA, Silverlight and .net buddy. Simple tcp/ip message server running on a laptop does all the communication management between devices.

  • This is really cool!!

  • Mind blogglingly brilliant! I hope they don't need to change too much to their pc app when Windows 8 ships.

  • OMG.. Amazing

  • This IS AWESOME!!!!!!

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