It's interesting to see so many hints of a Garret/Viktoria relationship. How the tone of their voices become less edgier with each cutscene. How they seem to be flirting in Masks. How Garrett begins Thief 2 by stating he equates "feelings" with "getting caught" then ends up chasing Viktoria in the last mission because he feels for her. Even their silhouettes in the cutscene for Casing the Joint echoes those of Basso and his lady in Running Interference's cutscene.
Ich frage mich nur eines .... Warum Garrett sie alleine gelassen hat .... Entweder man stirbt gemeinsam.... oder man lässt es bleiben !!! RIP Viktoria
"I dunno, maybe I am. Maybe if some bitch hadn't stolen my eye, that wouldn't be a problem. I know! I'll buy a replacement... oh, wait, that would practically cost a hundred grand. Pity I don't know anyone who owes me that much, ain't that right, Victoria?"
i like how he says "KARRAS...!" with this pissed revengeful voice at 4:12...that made me kick his ass! xD
i don't really understand the happenings...the cultivator turns a certain gas into rust gas? and this...destroys plants?... but viktoria is saying that this gas will destroy all that they know?! huh i don't get it? what is this gas really doing? and what does the becon do? and why is only karras dying and no one else? why do they need plants in the cathedral? sorry im not english
i see right now it all makes sense to me...so the gas uses organic material to become stronger...ou okay...so karras suffered a cruel death...you could compare this gas with acid if i am right
I always wondered if all of this could have turned out completely different if ol' Victoria had not been in such a rush.
I mean seriously - what kind of *elaborated* plan was this? "Garrett, based upon some rumours, here's what we do: we could try *this*, then *maybe* do that, and *if* that works out, we could probably do *this*!" How about letting the man do his work, sneak in, and kill Karras with one well placed arrow?
Ok, that *might* have spoiled the gaming experience, but jeez! Women! ^^
As you remember, Karras had sealed himself in his protective chamber, so he could not be killed directly. And they needed to get Builder's Servants out of the city, to avoid needless deaths. But yes, that plan was a bit rushed.
yes they are. Diane is leading the pagans actually since Vicky's dead in Thief 3. ..aaand I wont hide you the fact that I was hoping she'd be alive. I remember when I heard about that side mission where you may choose to "save" a special young tree and bring it to the pagans, I was hoping that it'd be Vicky...
I've only played Deadly Shadows, and I'm a fan of Viktoria even though I haven't played the games with her in a prominent role. But I don't understand how she's killed herself, it's like, she's either stabbed herself with the vines, or planted herself to the ground, then her face splits in half and all these vines go everywhere, does this kill the Karras Bots or just put the vines everywhere, plus I don't know how she actually kills herself.
She kills herself to use the vines that her body leaves behind to help Garrett kill the bad guys. I don't think she actually kills herself, she looks like she's letting the robots kill her. The robots shoot bombs, you see her get hit by them, and when her head splits i think it's the bombs exploding.
She kills herself so that she can fill the place with plant life, thats what the vines are about... if you listen at start of video she says that the rust gas reacts with the plant life which will destroy the place along with Karras in it!
Garrett looks like 5 different people over the course of the first 2 games. i forgot the cut scenes of the 3rd. i'm sure he looks like another 3 in there.
are all the followers of karris, like the people n the machines are they liked brain washed? coz i remember playing it years ago n saw like a person but with one of those gold mask on them n they were all like zombie(ish) are they like brain washed and all fucked up?
No need. Just hit them in the back with a water arrow. Steam powered. Hit the furnace, and they fall. Duh. It's mentioned a few times in the game, here and there.
Close Quarters isn't a good way. And the Blackjack/Sword doesn't hurt them.
yeah, a water arrow does work. but when's the last time you had enough water arrows to destroy ever single machine. listen. the blackjack does hurt them. keep on hitting the back of them (the part with the boiler) and they will fall apart!
Yeah, but how often do you find one of the buggers without SOMETHING to watch it's back? I find that usually you can sneak past them without too much hassel. They can't aim very well, and they're slow. Just leg it. And that final mission doesn't have the "No killy" rule. So the guards aren't as much of a problem.
I'd rather deal with them at range. That, and I tend to stock up on Water Arrows.
Mmm. Do Fire arrows work against them? Or are boiler attacks the only way?
Well, I usually find mines a bit touchie to use with humans. The Explosive ones, anyway. You can always sword/blackjack/suprise arrow them. But you can't as easily on the Robots.
I've yet to actually get this far into Theif 2, but I remember the Eavesdropping mission, earlier. The Mechanical Worker that I found there couldn't really chase very well. I think I just legged it past it a few times without really worrying about it, after the first encounter. It certainly couldn't aim very well.
Garrett has shown himself to be a highly practical, pragmatic fellow. The fact that he's given to an outburst at learning of her demise seems to indicate that she meant a great deal to him as a person. He certainly didn't do as much when he learned about Cuddy's imminent death.
Silence, blasphemer! They were meant to be together! The fangirls, and Fanfiction writers of the world have decreed it thus!
On a more literary note, there's a lot of chemistry between the two. Certain cinamatography techniques, such as romantic music, whilst showing them close together in a reflection help this. The "Close working relationship" seems to subtly point towards this, particularly as there's a slightly pause between those words, and the later ones showing that said relationship
lol just wait for thief 4, rumor has it that it'll be a retelling of the first 3 games, with any luck the company making it will make garrett and viktoria a bit...."closer" if you get my drift lol =).
i agree.. her and garrett would have made a hell of a couple... awesome antihero thief and a cool pagan woman who kills with vines lol... anyone else agree with me?
lol, thief 4 is coming and ive heard its a retelling of the first 3 games, cross your fingers that we will see them together again... and besides, its possible the game company will make them much...ummm "closer" if you get my drift lol =).
although that was a rumour awhile ago, perhaps they will make a sequal... or possibly a rettelling of the series and than a sequel will be made =) i hope lol.
Not sure Garret and Viktoria would have made a good match anyway - she did tear out his eye and try to kill him, after all. Though, it is unfortunate she had to die.
No not city, me figure she bees sacrificed her self for all things, (being a pagan me not think she be very fond of the city).
It would be nice if they maked a remake of thief 1 & 2. So me could play those on XP again (me played the 1 nearly to the end and the starting bits of second one), i f**ked my old Computer's bios up, and installing 98 on new one will f**k its hard drive numbers up.
(The thief 2 ought to have a awesome mod too witch im interested in.)
Water sprite cooling, fungal network 2mbit/sek, CD/DVD to moss drivers....
fueled by sunlight and watter, well in winter things slow down by a cool 60% though.
Thats when i switch to evergreen based laptop.(mostly fir tree based thus it can be a little difficult to understand it first but once used to it no problems.)
Hey! You've got my favorite cutscene. I was sad when Viktoria died. I actually liked her. I've always liked the creepy sounds they have in this game. Makes me want to go install it and play it again.
it would be nice if they make another Thief game already....I've only played the deadly Shadow...it really good but not as good as this part of the game...:( I would have like Viktoria to come back...I think she was really cool... and TheOriginalMadeDCMA is right the art work in this game is amazing!!!
Hmm.. I remembered this cutscene as somehow.. better than this. Oh well, still an awesome game.
JaytheOstrich 6 days ago
I think that moment was the saddest day he ever had...no wonder that in thief 3 he looks old...he actually lost someone T.T
Wharwulif 2 months ago
Her eyes become human again when she calls him "my good thief."
dwarrow25 8 months ago 3
@dwarrow25 Yes, that scene always chokes me up when I see even today...
jci10 4 months ago
It's interesting to see so many hints of a Garret/Viktoria relationship. How the tone of their voices become less edgier with each cutscene. How they seem to be flirting in Masks. How Garrett begins Thief 2 by stating he equates "feelings" with "getting caught" then ends up chasing Viktoria in the last mission because he feels for her. Even their silhouettes in the cutscene for Casing the Joint echoes those of Basso and his lady in Running Interference's cutscene.
dwarrow25 8 months ago 6
poor viktoria :(
salvosuper 8 months ago 4
Could Garrett really do it with a plant?
corporalcharlie 10 months ago
@02:36 - "I'll think of a better way... and I wore cologne!"
Photochroming 10 months ago
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Photochroming 10 months ago
you know in 2:02 viktoria sounds like she sniffled a bit...
MsEnglishtea 1 year ago
i like how he screams after her in the ending, i think they had something tougheter, don't blame me i didint play the metal age yet XD
Dusthollow2210 1 year ago
@Dusthollow2210 ypu must play metal age is greaat :}
greshadj 11 months ago
Ich frage mich nur eines .... Warum Garrett sie alleine gelassen hat .... Entweder man stirbt gemeinsam.... oder man lässt es bleiben !!! RIP Viktoria
ZiachRoby86 1 year ago
"Are you too blind to see that?"
"I dunno, maybe I am. Maybe if some bitch hadn't stolen my eye, that wouldn't be a problem. I know! I'll buy a replacement... oh, wait, that would practically cost a hundred grand. Pity I don't know anyone who owes me that much, ain't that right, Victoria?"
PeterDivine 1 year ago 4
Dyan... The high priestess of Deadly Shadows?
MoonlightAndy 1 year ago
i like how he says "KARRAS...!" with this pissed revengeful voice at 4:12...that made me kick his ass! xD
i don't really understand the happenings...the cultivator turns a certain gas into rust gas? and this...destroys plants?... but viktoria is saying that this gas will destroy all that they know?! huh i don't get it? what is this gas really doing? and what does the becon do? and why is only karras dying and no one else? why do they need plants in the cathedral? sorry im not english
unknownone3232 1 year ago 4
The rust gas destroys organic matter (trees, grass, animals, people, anything alive) All that they know.
Garrett turned on the beacon, which set off all the rust gas masks on Karrass' servants.
Garrett shut the cathedral, so it was all enclosed and shut from the world.
Because his servants were in the cathedral with Karrass, only he died. Garrett escaped in time.
Viktoria sacrificed herself as plant material, to make the reaction last stronger.
jillym1231211 1 year ago 3
i see right now it all makes sense to me...so the gas uses organic material to become stronger...ou okay...so karras suffered a cruel death...you could compare this gas with acid if i am right
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unknownone3232 1 year ago
Viktoria looks far too cute in the first half of this cutscene... So sad she didn't last until ds...
isocryd 1 year ago
I always wondered if all of this could have turned out completely different if ol' Victoria had not been in such a rush.
I mean seriously - what kind of *elaborated* plan was this? "Garrett, based upon some rumours, here's what we do: we could try *this*, then *maybe* do that, and *if* that works out, we could probably do *this*!" How about letting the man do his work, sneak in, and kill Karras with one well placed arrow?
Ok, that *might* have spoiled the gaming experience, but jeez! Women! ^^
Chainsy 2 years ago
As you remember, Karras had sealed himself in his protective chamber, so he could not be killed directly. And they needed to get Builder's Servants out of the city, to avoid needless deaths. But yes, that plan was a bit rushed.
mciumeica 1 year ago
@Chainsy
again, "there was no time, were you too blind to see that?"
stringoflies 1 year ago
Viktoria looks so feminine and vulnerable in the first part of the cutscene, trying to find a quick solution to the menacing threat. How adorable.
You have to congratulate LG Studios for exceptional storytelling & writing abilities
cxmtl 2 years ago
who is diane and luxbor? are they present in THIEF 3?
chywn 2 years ago
I know Diane is in thief 3. She replaces Viktoria.
I also killed her. Buhuahahaha
articfox2276 2 years ago
yes they are. Diane is leading the pagans actually since Vicky's dead in Thief 3. ..aaand I wont hide you the fact that I was hoping she'd be alive. I remember when I heard about that side mission where you may choose to "save" a special young tree and bring it to the pagans, I was hoping that it'd be Vicky...
PerseusV 2 years ago 4
I've only played Deadly Shadows, and I'm a fan of Viktoria even though I haven't played the games with her in a prominent role. But I don't understand how she's killed herself, it's like, she's either stabbed herself with the vines, or planted herself to the ground, then her face splits in half and all these vines go everywhere, does this kill the Karras Bots or just put the vines everywhere, plus I don't know how she actually kills herself.
BattleRoyaleMania 2 years ago
She kills herself to use the vines that her body leaves behind to help Garrett kill the bad guys. I don't think she actually kills herself, she looks like she's letting the robots kill her. The robots shoot bombs, you see her get hit by them, and when her head splits i think it's the bombs exploding.
batrinubog91 2 years ago
She kills herself so that she can fill the place with plant life, thats what the vines are about... if you listen at start of video she says that the rust gas reacts with the plant life which will destroy the place along with Karras in it!
Worthy7190 2 years ago
@BattleRoyaleMania i recently started playing metal age it1s realy good you should also try :}
greshadj 11 months ago
woah, cool
easygoingb 2 years ago
Garrett looks like 5 different people over the course of the first 2 games. i forgot the cut scenes of the 3rd. i'm sure he looks like another 3 in there.
articfox2276 3 years ago 5
victoria is well hot, until she talks in that weird deep demon voice and has those eyes.
ollymcguirk 3 years ago 2
are all the followers of karris, like the people n the machines are they liked brain washed? coz i remember playing it years ago n saw like a person but with one of those gold mask on them n they were all like zombie(ish) are they like brain washed and all fucked up?
ollymcguirk 3 years ago
she killed herself?! O.O
Sviskonballe 3 years ago
Thanks for posting, brings back loads of memories.
IanLewis321 3 years ago 2
HEY! The level following this cutscene is completely filled with those big machines that have the bombs.
THERE IS A WAY TO DESTROY THEM!!! Keep on hitting them with your blackjack and after a couple hits, they'll fall apart.
aleks214 3 years ago
No need. Just hit them in the back with a water arrow. Steam powered. Hit the furnace, and they fall. Duh. It's mentioned a few times in the game, here and there.
Close Quarters isn't a good way. And the Blackjack/Sword doesn't hurt them.
harlequin2262 3 years ago
yeah, a water arrow does work. but when's the last time you had enough water arrows to destroy ever single machine. listen. the blackjack does hurt them. keep on hitting the back of them (the part with the boiler) and they will fall apart!
aleks214 3 years ago
Yeah, but how often do you find one of the buggers without SOMETHING to watch it's back? I find that usually you can sneak past them without too much hassel. They can't aim very well, and they're slow. Just leg it. And that final mission doesn't have the "No killy" rule. So the guards aren't as much of a problem.
I'd rather deal with them at range. That, and I tend to stock up on Water Arrows.
Mmm. Do Fire arrows work against them? Or are boiler attacks the only way?
harlequin2262 3 years ago
i believe they do work, i know mines do. i think it would be an awful waste to use them though.
u can also try to lure them under one of those crushing pistons or elevators. that'll destroy them too.
aleks214 3 years ago
Well, I usually find mines a bit touchie to use with humans. The Explosive ones, anyway. You can always sword/blackjack/suprise arrow them. But you can't as easily on the Robots.
I've yet to actually get this far into Theif 2, but I remember the Eavesdropping mission, earlier. The Mechanical Worker that I found there couldn't really chase very well. I think I just legged it past it a few times without really worrying about it, after the first encounter. It certainly couldn't aim very well.
harlequin2262 3 years ago
Ironic thing is, I usually took more damage from the IMPACT of the bombs, than the actual explosions.
harlequin2262 3 years ago
Oh, this is great! The same person who accused me of beeing aggressive is the same one who's involved in war affairs. That seems very coherent...not!
filipeflower 2 years ago
I agree.
nightshadelives40 3 years ago 4
Is in fact with the security system.
Garrett has shown himself to be a highly practical, pragmatic fellow. The fact that he's given to an outburst at learning of her demise seems to indicate that she meant a great deal to him as a person. He certainly didn't do as much when he learned about Cuddy's imminent death.
harlequin2262 3 years ago 16
exactly =)
IamDayoldHate 3 years ago 4
Silence, blasphemer! They were meant to be together! The fangirls, and Fanfiction writers of the world have decreed it thus!
On a more literary note, there's a lot of chemistry between the two. Certain cinamatography techniques, such as romantic music, whilst showing them close together in a reflection help this. The "Close working relationship" seems to subtly point towards this, particularly as there's a slightly pause between those words, and the later ones showing that said relationship
harlequin2262 3 years ago 10
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softhaxorz2 3 years ago
Where are these Garrett/Viktoria pairing fanfiction stories you speak of? My interest has been piqued.
softhaxorz2 3 years ago 2
well i hope they make it a sequal to the series... i guess time will tell
IamDayoldHate 3 years ago
lol just wait for thief 4, rumor has it that it'll be a retelling of the first 3 games, with any luck the company making it will make garrett and viktoria a bit...."closer" if you get my drift lol =).
IamDayoldHate 3 years ago
i agree.. her and garrett would have made a hell of a couple... awesome antihero thief and a cool pagan woman who kills with vines lol... anyone else agree with me?
IamDayoldHate 3 years ago 16
Agree ^_^
jillym1231211 3 years ago 8
glad to see im not the only one =)
IamDayoldHate 3 years ago
Hehe, it sure would be interesting. :-) Beter not think of what their children would look like... :-DDD
ZemplinTemplar 3 years ago 2
they would be antihero master thief tree children lol =).
IamDayoldHate 3 years ago
they would be antihero master thief tree children lol =).
IamDayoldHate 3 years ago 2
:-DDD Hehe... Quite probably... ;-)
ZemplinTemplar 3 years ago
lol, thief 4 is coming and ive heard its a retelling of the first 3 games, cross your fingers that we will see them together again... and besides, its possible the game company will make them much...ummm "closer" if you get my drift lol =).
IamDayoldHate 3 years ago
:-DDD LOL. Yup, but I fear that, if it will really be like that, it will quite break-up the continuity of the original trilogy. :-/
ZemplinTemplar 3 years ago
although that was a rumour awhile ago, perhaps they will make a sequal... or possibly a rettelling of the series and than a sequel will be made =) i hope lol.
IamDayoldHate 3 years ago
I would rather like prequel or something between T2 and T2 :)
Hallase 3 years ago
itd probably be like that, or itd be a retelling of thief 1,2 and 3 =) i hope they show more of the garrett viktoria relationship =)
IamDayoldHate 3 years ago
Poor Viktoria. I wished she lived so I could see her join the forces of good... or something. Maybe I have my head in the clouds.
sunderking 3 years ago
I almost cry at this part everytime i watch.
arialbamboo 3 years ago
sheer brilliance, gives me goosebumps watching
KyraPixie 3 years ago 4
it's typical that the hero never gets the girl for whatever reason!
grr!
Lintassimilator 3 years ago
Not sure Garret and Viktoria would have made a good match anyway - she did tear out his eye and try to kill him, after all. Though, it is unfortunate she had to die.
Maehedrose 3 years ago 3
bdsm mate :>
Lintassimilator 3 years ago 3
opposites attract
IamDayoldHate 3 years ago
No not city, me figure she bees sacrificed her self for all things, (being a pagan me not think she be very fond of the city).
It would be nice if they maked a remake of thief 1 & 2. So me could play those on XP again (me played the 1 nearly to the end and the starting bits of second one), i f**ked my old Computer's bios up, and installing 98 on new one will f**k its hard drive numbers up.
(The thief 2 ought to have a awesome mod too witch im interested in.)
Woodsyone 4 years ago
Pagans with computers ... riiight
YancyPolumbo 4 years ago 4
Sure, 3GHz dual heartwood, 2Gb R(aw)A(amber)M(memory).
300Gb of sapwood harddrive.
Water sprite cooling, fungal network 2mbit/sek, CD/DVD to moss drivers....
fueled by sunlight and watter, well in winter things slow down by a cool 60% though.
Thats when i switch to evergreen based laptop.(mostly fir tree based thus it can be a little difficult to understand it first but once used to it no problems.)
:D
Woodsyone 3 years ago 6
LOL! XD!
jillym1231211 3 years ago
Snappy answer to a stupid comment!
dimfuture 3 years ago
Hmmm, yeh, it would be very nice to have an updated version of DP and MA.
Very nice indeed...
*Daydreams*
jillym1231211 3 years ago
Wahhhhhhh! Viktoria was awesome! She sacrificed herself for the city :(
Viktoria: 'My good thief'
Garrett : 'No, wait, VIKTORIAAAA!'
So sad :( :( :(!!!!!!!!
TheMusicOfThief 4 years ago
This scene is great. But Viktoria dying... I didn't like that.
My fave is scene 12 from the first Thief game, because it shows Garret being very asfraid --which makes him all the more real as a character.
prismacolor28 4 years ago
Yep, so true.
jillym1231211 4 years ago
Hey! You've got my favorite cutscene. I was sad when Viktoria died. I actually liked her. I've always liked the creepy sounds they have in this game. Makes me want to go install it and play it again.
Arijatha 4 years ago
it would be nice if they make another Thief game already....I've only played the deadly Shadow...it really good but not as good as this part of the game...:( I would have like Viktoria to come back...I think she was really cool... and TheOriginalMadeDCMA is right the art work in this game is amazing!!!
littlesushii 4 years ago
Yeh, I think all Thief fans want a new Thief :(
And yeh the artwork in Thief is AMAZING!! ^_^
jillym1231211 4 years ago
True
TheMusicOfThief 4 years ago
Viktorias is dead and garrett say Karras
eagleamf 4 years ago
Yeh, Garrett wants REVENGE!!!
TheMusicOfThief 4 years ago
the cutscenes in all the thief stories are purely amazing works of art
TheOriginalMadeDCMA 4 years ago
Don't know why, but I love this moment 03:57-04:00:P
Dagaen 4 years ago
Yeh, its Artemus. ^_^
priestessdyan 5 years ago
Wasn't entirely sure. Thank ya. Artemus was so kewl too.
YourAiChan 4 years ago
VIKTORIAAAA! I love this game, and this is definately the best cutscene in Thief 2...
Those who would know (possibly only those who played T3 would know?) Is that Artemus Garrett Speaks to?
YourAiChan 5 years ago
This is my favorite cutscene of AL TIME. Thankyou sooo much I've been diedng to re-see this.
keeperalissa 5 years ago
Glad I could help. :)
jillym1231211 5 years ago