Evidence of Good Faith and Reasonable Intent Toward David Miscavige and Scientology

[Herro34]

Sup crazy. How's operation Ragnarok going?

[ChristianlySkeptical]

User "Herro" is in fact either an agitprop Scientologist in "disguise," or an actual member of the Why We Protest web site. His identity is known to us and we are aware of his activities.

He has harassed and blocked productive ideas on the WWP forum for a very long time. We are aware of his existence and are investigating further.

Herro, you have been blocked for the egotistical asshole that you are.

[largo163]

Oh noes you are aware of his activities and you know who he is, and yet we are the bad ones? I believe that is called stalking, and THAT can be pursued in a court of law.

Have a nice day crazy bitch :D

[ChristianlySkeptical]

Some are quite capable enough of knowing how to prevent exploitation of a chance to speak, as capable as you AND they. Stop for a moment and think for once in your LIFE!

Before destroying so much outright and salt the Earth on which it sat; how about a pause to reflect upon the worst of all worst case outcomes for all sides.

Wizzen up buddy. People are trying to contact the witch and see if she can become more waterproof through truth and honest change.

[KingNerd888]

You got banned from there for being crazy.

Keep responding. Its funny and only serves to prove how insane you are.

Also, keep threatening WWP. We love it. You have NOTHING. Get off the internet.

[ChristianlySkeptical]

Unless you have facts this statement constitutes a tort in a public forum and is therefore actionable EVEN outside of the UK. We suggest that an APOLOGY for such presumably UNTRAINED assumption of the guise to having a credible opinion, may well be highly indicative of a WWP "ex" Scientologist in our opinion. Such comments are quite typical and after 14 months they are at least relatively easy to sort into common characteristics.

[ChristianlySkeptical]

This is actionable in a court of law. Either defend your staement WITH FACTS not slander, or call a layyer for the privilege of being allowed to demonstrate how incredibly stupid WWP and YOU IN PARTICULAR really are.

[KingNerd888]

ChristianlySkeptical is a nutjob.

Disregard its posts.

[ChristianlySkeptical]

The above represents a typical attempt by the users of the Why We Protest website to use rhetoric rather than a factual response to refute the allegations.

It is every bit as much "confronting and shattering suppression as the Scientology strategy of "Fair Game." Anonymous' tactics are indeed somewhat modeled upon some of the methodologies of L Ron Hubbard.

YOU ARE BEING LIED TO WITH RHETORIC!

Will you as citizen's of the world continue to allow this travesty of fraud and abuse to continue.

[AnonShawi]

You went batshit insane made threats and got banned, get over it.

[ChristianlySkeptical]

The users of Why We Protest have every right to do as they please in their own places. Continuing to post in this fashion will result in more than a simple comment.

The reality is quite different , and fundamentally the group known as "Anonymous" at its core is highly similar in many respects to the Office of Special Affairs of the Church of Scientology.

You have no right to PROFIT on our name, identity, or the work we did that resulted in this. All of it represents your failure to evolve

[ChristianlySkeptical]

We would like to invite users to read our statement directly to the Internet regarding ClingingMars' channel before he decides in his apparently "infinite" wisdom and "Anonymity," that it is less likely that deleting it will result in a response than keeping it up.

This alas is not the case. The pages were screen captured in anticipation of another attempt by an "Anonymous" to alter reality in the face of facts on the ground.

Users are cautioned not to comment further on his home page.

[ChristianlySkeptical]

User ClingingMars has now been blocked from further participation in this thread as a result of attempting to "personal army" NOT Anonymous and to dictate the tactics of our group.

THIS is an example of the hypocrisy which is many parts of Anonymous.

[ChristianlySkeptical]

Given the response to our videos and the attempts to hack the ip from which we operate, known to users of the Why We Protest website, tomorrow we will presenting a new video complete with screen shots of the "Anonymous" response to these offerings which include but are not limited to: calling someone crazy without evidence; thinking the project is Scientologist led; full of various levels of profanity and complete paranoia.

They do not believe in difference of opinion on far more than this.

[ClingingMars]

Nobody who's serious about the effort against Scientology has hacked you. But when you open yourself to the Dome...you never know what is gonna happen.

[ChristianlySkeptical]

Thunderdome users are provided a home on funds spent on opposing Scientology. As such, if they are acting on your sites behalf without their permission, then perhaps you should suggest to them that such will not gain them points in the media and that we stand fully ready to go completely public with all that we know and our analysis.

DO NOT TEMPT FATE.

[ClingingMars]

Thunderdome users are their own breed, you should know this because you were one of them. Just like some of the crazy 4chaners who DDoS'd Scientology a year ago, we do not take responsibility for their actions.

[ChristianlySkeptical]

This is a typical Anonymous way of denying any personal responsibility for the actions of the group which maintains, as does the Church of Scientology that for some purposes they are one thing, and for others they are another.

This is a KEY component in actually dispelling much of the popular myth about "Anonymous" which has been as recklessly promoted as has been the Church of Scientology.

The comparisons are easily made. One need only be outside of either context to see them.

[ClingingMars]

Quote:

"Previously it had been NOT Anonymous intent to sponsor a banner advertisement on behalf of so-called anti-scientology protesters on the Vanderbilt Orbis website, a Vanderbilt University liberally leaning publication. we have instead chosen to withhold sending funds and anticipate that the current introductory try out that we arranged for Anonymous will expire prior to that date."

Vandy anons have already taken care of the ad, smart one.

[ChristianlySkeptical]

It's nice to know they're capable of at least responding to an escalation in the threat level.

"Anonymous" is extremely responsive to the appropriate tactics of pushing their pieces around the chess board. Scientologists would be well advised to contact us and find out more.

[ClingingMars]

I hope they do contact you, really. I suspect they'll get just as much lulz as us, if not more.

[ChristianlySkeptical]

AGAIN, this is an assumption which is based on facts more than a year old. There is no basis for making this statement other than the opinion of the user who is apparently not well served by limited powers of reason, judgment, or writing.

lrn2English if you wish to post on this space. Do not post opinion of the future most especially. Such presumption is hubris incarnate and as such it is a Mortal Sin.

[ClingingMars]

lrn2internet please, and email Dave and post the response on YouTube. dox or gtfo.

[ChristianlySkeptical]

This is an example of how "Anonymous" attempt to get others to do what they wish by whining and complaining, rather than "for the lulz."

It is an unflattering attempt to dictate someone else's tactics, and is in fact a rather typical example of the actual, rather than mythic or even remotely "epic," process of "Anonymous" and how the internal characteristics of the group have completely failed to live up to the original ideas which were espoused.

The statement is an offense to the Internet.

[ChristianlySkeptical]

Given the response to our videos and the attempts to hack the ip from which we operate, known to users of the Why We Protest website, tomorrow we will presenting a new video complete with screen shots of the "Anonymous" response to these offerings which include but are not limited to: calling someone crazy without evidence; thinking the project is Scientologist led; full of various levels of profanity and complete paranoia.

They do not believe difference of opinion on far more than this.

[ChristianlySkeptical]

Comment by user

ClingingMars (5 minutes ago) S

Deleted for failing to provide supporting evidence rather that continuing with ineffective rhetoric for which at least we, on our part, will not provide a forum at the expense of our message.

You have been warned.

[ClingingMars]

warn me moar plz

[ChristianlySkeptical]

Further warning is not needful. You were baited to provide an appropriate example of the single minded way Anonymous responds with the words "Free Speech" in the same way Scientologists do "Hitler."

Support your arguments better. You are a WWP member and should represent something better than what you clearly do.

Shape up or GTFO.

[ClingingMars]

I don't represent anyone. Get mental help, or at least continue to be funny

[ChristianlySkeptical]

This is a lie. This is a comment meant to directly deceive the reader. "Acting in concert" on the Internet may be "swarm theory" but collaborating and actively planning operations with others in conjunction with exchange of ideas to create a coherent whole, makes you both a member of a group AND a part of something.

STOP LYING AND SPLITTING HAIRS TO FURTHER YOUR AGENDA.

[ClingingMars]

again, I don't represent anybody but myself. you can whine and bitch and moan all you want because I'm a member of WWP, but that don't mean shit. So were you before you went insane.

[ChristianlySkeptical]

This a distinction between fine lines so patently thin as to be a lie. The accusations of insanity are as a result of a very long term operation which was instituted to come out at the appropriate time and do provide public information about what was seen and how it was interpreted.

"Anonymous" is NOT the only group of people who know how to play people, and neither is Scientology. From the beginning the character of this effort and its speech have been unacceptable.

CHANGE IT.

[ChristianlySkeptical]

Another example of rhetoric in advance of a cause and nothing more.

[ClingingMars]

k i <3 rhetoric

[ChristianlySkeptical]

The above is an example of the "secret" language and acronymic expressions utilized by "Anonymous," which is directly comparable to Scientology's own creation of a secret internal language all it's own.

Such things are one of many of the required elements to define a group which might well be referred to as a "cult" if other specifications also are met. We will not go into how many of these elements are represented in "Anonymous" at this time, but they are certainly far more than a few.

[ClingingMars]

You are an idiot.

*awaits blatant censorship*

[ChristianlySkeptical]

We contextualize, NOT censor. The above user was in fact the one who accused this account a Scientologist without any basis or evidence to do so.

The sole reason for this users comment is to attempt to bait a response that shows emotion, very much like a Scientologist attempting to find someone's "ruin."

The way to defend against this is a variation of what is known as "Godwins Law" which is responding to everything by linking saying it to Hitler.

This is acceptable.

[ChristianlySkeptical]

An addendum. The above user screaming about censorship is intending to imply that articulated policies posted clearly do not apply to them.

This is a known "Anonymous" and in fact is a well respected and representative member of the Why We Protest website which has styled itself the face of social activism for more than a year.

Such thinking is hubris and fails to acknowledge fundamentally the history of passive non-violent resistance upon which they draw. This response is a trick of theirs.

[ChristianlySkeptical]

Support your statement factually in 500 letter or less or GTFO!

This is not a chit chat operation like "Why We Protest." THIS is free and open dialog based on very briefly supporting whatever it is you think you have that is worthy of contribution.

In future statements without evidentiary support or failing to live up to reasonable editorial standards of explication will be flagged as spam then deleted.

There will be no exceptions pro or con.

[emprise]

they won't change

[ChristianlySkeptical]

Change is not promoted by rhetoric. You offer no solutions other than destruction, and that is not acceptable. It does not take a rocket scientist to comprehend that change is favorable over eradication of ANYTHING!

Remember your ROOTS! Ideas are BULLETPROOF! This isn't "going away," so be prepared to advocate for change or you will never achieve your apparently desired ends, the complete destruction of this organization and the belief set of all within it.

[ChristianlySkeptical]

In a recent comment on our YouTube home page, a known member of "Anonymous" and an anti-Scientology critic left the following words in an attempt to trivialize our message...

standbk258 (3 minutes ago)

You make me laugh you really do !

Such comments are not rational dialog and do absolutely nothing to further change in what is already a difficult situation. As such they will not be tolerated and will be exposed for what they are.

Rhetoric and nothing more.

NOT Anonymous

[ChristianlySkeptical]

A recent comment from a YouTube video we assisted Anonymous is producing, here included for your observation and comment.

kittenshateyou (8 minutes ago)

let me know when you die, stupid bitch

We have no direct evidence this is an "Anonymous," however posting history of comments to previous videos in different venues suggest highly it is not a Scientologist.

NOT Anonymous