So, Oil barons just threatened the President of the U.S.

[Stiletos]

I hope we don't build the pipeline, I hope we instead build the facilities to refine the oil here in Canada, pipeline it to our own ports in British Columbia, and sell it to whoever wants to buy it as a finished product. American's were offered a piece of the pie, you rejected it so be it. Canada should simply start looking out for its own interests and create all of the jobs and wealth that extraction, refinement, and sales of the product will create FOR CANADA. Forget Houston, we have Calgary.

[savitonni]

Are you kidding me, when the president himself threatens seniors and the military with cuts if congress don't pass a "MORE SPENDING" bill... and raise the debt ceiling. ?? What are you talking about ? He didn't threaten to do physical harm to obama..... THAT would be upsetting and prosecutable by law...

All he is trying to do is set the stage for communism in America.... level the playing (income) field... Not what I want and I'm not rich by any means...

[QuartuvLarry]

What? Do we REALLY give a damn about the president?

[jamestrueblooddet207]

Okay Mr. Marx oh yeah Capitalism has ruined America this video is ignorant you people have know common sense.

[tomitstube]

excellent video, send this to the white house, just look up "contact the white house." it easy to send a video.

interesting how the oil barons call their profits "national interest". wouldn't it be nice if for once the cia actually worked for the american people and not corporations?

[jlynnwm]

It's all about the MONEY.... • “The United States does export about one million barrels per day of oi and oil products: almost none of this is crude oil.” I believe that oil companies ship oil abroad just to keep the price up

[sjfire72]

Oil is not just about cars and trucks people. The electronics your typing on, the phones you talk on the bags for IV fluids in the hospital, the plastics and all oil based products are made from this so NO WE CAN NOT JUST STOP USING THEM!

[hamilton59840]

I got news for you, Big Oil..

KISS MY CAN!!!

YOU CAN TAKE YOUR GAS AND SHOVE IT!!

WE AIN'T FILLIN' UP NO MORE!!

[Saeyabor]

At what point do the antics of these feudalists cross the line into prosecutable treason?

[MarshallLore]

@Saeyabor not until the system is changed im afraid. Afterall you will never see the principle sent to detention because the rules don't apply to them. Having said that there is a growing movement to try Governer George W. Bush for warcrimes lol

[Saeyabor]

@MarshallLore Yep, one of the few flaws in the Constitution is that the only crime it defines is treason, so no other law can define it, and the definition is waaay too narrow for the modern day.

[boboboboobobable]

Thats right we don't fear our president and can talk sh$# about him , unlike Russia, say something about the dictator and get a bullet or bomb to the head.

[MirageScience]

zero-point vortex based technology will be coming to you soon. All the information for this "free energy" (the energy which drives the universes space expansion and time contraction) is being made public and open source, all it needs is more attention and if that has to be on alternate news sites then that's what will happen. Check out votex mathmatics there is something like a Ted Talks presentation here on youtube. It's not exactly ted talks but some affiliate.

[Osyran]

This pipeline should never be built. Here or the other from Alberta to BC. The oil baron's are about to have their day. People will not continue to live under the thumb of billionaires who care for no one. Canadian and American citizens are no longer blind.

[BeantownJim]

screw obama! treasonous usurper! ndaa can shove it up his arse!

[KCZLAW]

"US is the largest shipper of gas in the world" already. True. The pipeline builders plan on shipping the oil products out of US, so they can sell without paying taxes, and then keep the profits off-shore. Meanwhile, consumers buy imported products, and pay the taxes.

[LifeIsGoodLydie]

I wish there were subtitles so that I could share with my family in France. This man is brilliant !

[TheSandmanProject]

how do we stop them from building this thing?

[mobspeak]

FUCK THE SYSTEM! TECHNOCRACY NOW!

[CRUDEFINDER]

Oh yea, he knows nothing about pipelines either. BP oil spill was to a pipeline leak as Niagra Falls is to a water hose. Leaks are bad but this moron is leading us to believe that there are no safegaurds for pressure drops.

[CRUDEFINDER]

This guy is such a dumbass. Of course it will have huge political consequences. Obama has to either piss of his union thugs who want the jobs, or piss off the tree huggers who are against EVERYTHING anyway. How hard is that to figure out? That's WHY Obama wants to wait until AFTER the election to make a decision. I say screw it, let the Canadians ship the oil to China, we shipped all of our jobs over there. But this guy in the video IS a dumbass.

[mbecker130]

@CRUDEFINDER

After reading that post, I'm trying to figure out where you get off calling anyone else a dumbass.

[TJSchutte]

No pipeline.

[BWCmike]

Is it a threat? it sounds like it could be purposely ambiguous. Who knows such things. we are just simple serfs, the government hides reality from us. But the pipeline is bad, its not hard to see. Vote against it

[lovintonal]

greedy people

[inrrivas]

dear barons,

thank you for making me and my country look like ignorant people who are oil addicts

hate, myself

[ugmold]

Fascism.

[MrBravefencermusashi]

Exxon Mobile, the largest oil comany in the world, is owned by the Rockefellers (formerly standard oil)

[ugmold]

@MrBravefencermusashi

They actually own all Oil Company's, known as the Six Sisters.

[MrBravefencermusashi]

@ugmold even BP and Shell ? I thought they were the property of the Royal families in UK and Holland

[ugmold]

@MrBravefencermusashi

Actually called the 7 Sisters (missed one, lol) Do a search, yes Shell and BP.

[arkons1961]

With this threat, why doesn't the President arrest him for being a TERRORIST, SHIPPED AWAY AND NEVER HEARD FROM AGAIN? It would be done to us!

[globalpreparation]

Show the President that there will be even bigger political consequences if he DOES allow it!

Make your voice heard. Write and Call the Whitehouse, put em on overload!

[Mcleod0000]

oil barrens/military industrial complex 2012 !

[Brettberg66]

Stand up for the truth - stop the oil NOW!

[TheOccupyMovie]

brilliant reporting work! Absurd that CNN or American MSM is incapable of any analysis



[Northstadiumhusker]

If Obama had any balls, he would go Michael Corleone on Big Oil:

" You can have my answer now, if you like. My final offer is this: nothing."

[bigb666able]

obama is to stupid he will allow it screw you oil barrons

[Xaotikdesigns]

That's not a threat, that's politics in action. If a candidate doesn't do what you want them to do, then you don't support them.

For instance, any candidate that supports SOPA will get neither my vote nor any funds. If an oil company wants something done, why would they support someone who is blocking it?

[leslea001]

Short term profit won't replace the ogalalla aquifer. Want to end the dependence on foreign oil, then get OFF the oil teat. It's time to start boosting solar, wind & other RENEWABLE technologies instead. And a hint to all you folks in the USA. Canadian oil, IS foreign oil to you!

[Xaotikdesigns]

@leslea001 For now...

[kali4niadazed]

Fuck you oil barons as to threaten the President of the US when 99% say "NO TO THE XL TARS N SAND PIPELINE for it is not in the national interest whatsoever. It's only in your greedy interest so fuck you again Fuck you all whom want the XL that is thuglican's whom don't care about this country...Fuck you look what you did to the Gulf of Mexico and it's still spewing oil you mother fucking liars Obama is much smarter then you and listens to his people. TY President Obama I'll say fuck you 2 them

[dmwalder]

Thanks but I don't need uour theatrics to process the news. Fox has already saturated that market.

[Zanzara2041]

I don't believe the environmentalists any more than I believe the oil barons. The government makes more money off the oil than anyone. So, this video is just another form of propaganda by people who prefer to hide behind buzz thoughts.

[KayleRJEastcott]

Like many problems in the world the so-called Oil barons just need a swift slap in the face. 

[techcafe]

the Christian Oil Mafia

look it up

[ruediix]

They aren't even trying too hard to hide it any more.

The only way they could have been more blatant would have been to directly say "If you don't approve the pipeline, we will spend massive amounts money on negative ads against you and your political party next year.

Of course, with the line of clowns the Republicans have, I doubt it would make a difference.

[knightnoctum]

Imprison and fine them for blackmail and public endangerment. Nationalize the oil industry to the point that every American owns an equal share collecting a check at the end of every fiscal year. During the year, hold the profits in high interest accounts and use the interest towards our national debt! Millions of people will be effected, if their precious pipeline destroys the largest water aquifer in the world. They don't give a crap, look at how BP got away with screwing us in the gulf!

[johnny718bravo]

Obama bows down in 3, 2, 1...

[pattimlin]

I'm not a fan of big industry, fossil fuels, etc. but aren't you making the "threat" sound a bit more sinister than it might actually be? President Obama is an elected representative after all, so any decisions he makes will have political consequences, "huge" or not, in the next election

[redscott77092]

This pipeline WAS going to British Columbia to ship to China, but the people of B.C. said "No!"

[SuperSpencercat]

@redscott77092 Keep your eye on that.. Harper is a slithery snake. We must keep saying "NO"! Peace.

[curtmorrison]

Good video with good information. One detail, the intention of pumping to Texas isn't only the export angle, but tar sands oil is so dirty the only refineries equipped to refine it are in Texas.

[robgilgan]

We should be building the ugraders here, near the oil sands and sell the value added products to the highest bidder, rather than the lowest - our current American customers.

[robgilgan]

Obama should declare a national emergency and nationalize the oil industry. See how Jack Gerard feels when all his buddies tag him for screwing things up for them.

[37sikora]

death to the oil industry

[KenMacMillan]

Sounds like propaganda to me.

[SludgeMcPoople]

... Earth to progressives (and Obama)... and if the president okays the Keystone Pipeline, Big Oil will spend billions to defeat him and try to destroy liberalism and the social safety net anyway. So, Mr. President, what do you have to lose? Screw Big Oil!

[risasb]

The extension of the pipeline referred to as Keystone XL is for the purpose of sending this extremely-crude crude to refineries that can make it useful for EXPORT OVERSEAS and will be no help to US energy security via continental supplies. Fuggedabout it!

[cardcreekdesign]

There already exists significant unused pipeline capacity from Canada to the US. There is absolutely NO justifiable requirement for this additional pipeline capacity. Aside from the fact that the Tar Sands it's intended to serve are, arguably one of the dirtiest sources of energy in the world which actually burns up more energy than it gives. This is a loser plan all around subsidized by taxpayers for the sole purpose of guaranteeing profit.

[4144DLee]

And, how do they get the money to build a multibilliion dollar campaign against the President? Anyone think any CEO's are giving up a dime? We will pay for the campaign whether we agree with it or not. They just add how ever much they need to the price of gas.

[burningbeing]

What are the chances Obama won't cave to the oil interests? I think almost zero. He is basically a Republican; I'm not sure why so many Republicans don't like him.

[rjm6440]

Stop the pipe line unless Canada and the oil company's agrees to full restitution on all future damages and triple monetary restitution to anyone injured in future accidents and this should be decided by local people not Washington because they have the oil company's interest at heart not Americans just look at BP and the Gulf spill the oil still is on the bottom of the gulf and not cleaned up.

[moatwog]

We don't need fossil fuels AT ALL. Biodiesel, ethanol, solar, wind, hydrogen, magnet motors, tesla technology, and more can easily replace ALL fossil fuels.

[37sikora]

@moatwog yeah, it wont be easy, but you have to start somewhere. so much propaganda working in the opposing direction. i think you are right, i think fossil fuels are obsolete. but the oil industries pour so much money into covering up new technologies, or altering public perception, it sucks

[kaminonagere1]

@moatwog From a production standpoint, bio-diesel is inefficient to produce considering the energy cost compared to yield. Ethanol doesn't work well with food economies. Solar power requires the production of solar cells, the most efficient of which are toxic to produce. Hydrogen is unstable and inefficient. Magnet motors are hokum from a thermodynamics perspective- they don't work. Still, you're right- the world needs to work its way off of nonrenewable combustibles.

[esca8652]

@moatwog FREE HEMP!

[fonkymaster]

@moatwog

We can use nuclear but ONLY to transition to those as well. And for the love of fuck keep it AWAY from a fault line.

[hrhkatrina1]

@moatwog You are a nutjob. Biodiesel caused food prices to skyrocket 2 years ago, leading to riots in Pakistan. Ethanol- same thing. Solar works in sunny places, but even environmentalists have complained about building it in sensitive areas. Hydrogen- not there yet, Wind is intermittent at best. The others are nice science projects for now. Use up the oil then it's not an issue. Then we'll HAVE to use all the other stuff.

[globalpreparation]

@hrhkatrina1 That's because they chose Corn Ethanol! The worst possible choice! Hemp Biofuels, perfect choice!

[barbietta]

@moatwog Take ethanol off the list, and I agree completely! (ethanol requires petrochemical based herbicides, pesticides, and fertilizers to grow, not to mention the refining process). Ethanol is a money funneling sham instituted by Monsanto.

[1LaOriental]

@barbietta So, Monsanto strikes again, huh? I didn't know...but not surprised. They make me sick.

[joshtheobjectivist]

@toryboy69 I am not a blind follower of ayn rand. Objectivism simply defined is the is simply to adhere to objective reality and to not have beliefs. I either know something or don't. I disagree with ayn on some things but not that central idea of objective reality. But perhaps you like mysticism and fantasy over reality. Be glad I dont judge you merely by your name.

[toryboy69]

@joshtheobjectivist

You undermine your validity purely because you call yourself "the objectivist".

Anyone who takes rand seriously isn't worth listening to.

[ridovem]

It looks like being a spokesperson for big oil engenders a HUGE Double Chin. ^..^

[KevinPolin]

I cant stand Thom Hartman! Even though i am Liberal, Hartman is last person that needs to be giving Obama advice. I have never met a Liberal that is more Anti-Obama than Hartman.

[OttoLund]

Thanks

abeldanger(dot)net

[NaomiDesiderius]

So if I say your president is making decisions that will have political ramifications, I am threatening him. Unless I'm with the Nobel Peace Prize team?

Must be nice.

[vivalaleta]

Fuck Jack Gerard.

[northerbrewer]

I'm a Canadian.

Stop this pipeline.

Its as bad for you my American friends as it is for me.

[hrhkatrina1]

@northerbrewer I'm American. We don't want to buy more oil from the Middle East. Build it. Now. 

[northerbrewer]

@hrhkatrina1

This pipeline is designed to export oil from the USA.

The largest export from the USA in 2011 was refined oil, gasoline, diesel, lubricants.

More than machinery or any other product.

This pipeline is designed to get all that oil stranded in alberta thats gluttin gup th ecentral USA out.

When its built Gasoline prices will rise 20 cents a gallon in the USA because all that oil will be able to flow easily to markets outsuide the USA.

READ that again.

You export oil

[yescandles]

Since when is an opinion a threat? What if we agree with his observation/opinion??? Does that makes us some kind of tyrants? Throwing on a pair of jeans and "spewing a spin" does not make you well informed, cool OR right!

[k3v1n47]

@mistermassive1 The better question is who am I definitely not voting for, and that would be anyone with an (R) by their name. Like Ol' Ronnie Paul. Other than that I'm voting for Nuniya and the reason is Nuniya as in "yo biznizz". I'm starting to think that this Ron Paul Youtube comment activism is akin to the douchebags who are paid advocates, in imbedded in the crowd at political speeches going, "Yeah! he's right!" I may be wrong about that but anyway, Fuck Ron Paul.

[inEarthCEO]

"Do what's right Mr. President"???? Like signing the NDAA and soon to sign SOPA and PIPA??.. Give me a f'ing break... This president is just bad news, just like the last one.

[gracewriter]

I wasn't going to vote for Obama this time around whether he approved the pipline or not. But I will now if he turns this pipeline down! Screw these Oil Barrons, who the fuck do they think they are! Ahhhhhhhh!!!!

[joshtheobjectivist]

i am no fan of oil barons or obama, but you just twisted words like a total dumbass. It was not a threat it was an observation, an opinion. God, why can't people just be FUCKING ACCURATE. Everyone has to have a goddamn spin. I read the headline thinking some real shit was going down... but it was just hype.

[TheOnlyexisting]

@joshtheobjectivist the fact is none of us know exactly what he meant by his statements.  Could be interpreted as a threat, however, claiming that it was a threat without a doubt, is dangerous and wrong. I do believe Obama already knows what will happen if he doesnt listen to the oil barons, although. He will sign this pipeline into action, and spare his life/possible reelection.

[yescandles]

@joshtheobjectivist I agree 100%! He needs to jump off his spin wagon and drag those rag tag jeans home. I am so sick of this type of "journalism" (if that is what it is called)

[NinjaFilip]

hell it cant be worse than the bp oil spill. that was waay underwather so it was hard to fix, but a pipline is just to plug and clean the land around. not even near as bad. getting frikkin mad

[BalletBabyBoy]

Fuck the Oil PIGS!

[youutube88]

well wtf why is it even Obama's decision... shouldn't it also be Canada's decision? What happened to the thousands of Canadians protesting this stupid pipeline v=UhrNhrmSCbk

I want a fucking direct democracy where i can vote on this issue... we've never rly had a real democracy in history they just work really slow and they're trying to get everything finished quickly now... lets occupy the whole world

[OccupyPortlandia]

Ok.. so the question is, will he just spread those cheeks and bend over for them? Perhaps do it, but make a statement that he has reservations about it?

[youutube88]

@OccupyPortlandia LOL probably...

[Trittydi]

Yeah - that's a threat.

*

[huntmati]

Come on obamas 1 of their many puppets of cause hes ganna sign it.

[k3v1n47]

@mistermassive1 I'm voting for either the American Nazi party or the American Communist party, I disagree with most everything they stand for. They are both detrimental to the country, but, any change is welcome in my book...who cares anymore? Do you see how stupid that is?

[Breno3144]

You know, I can't help but notice... if you mute this guy and read the quote without the emphasis he gives it... it sounds nothing like a threat... Granted, the oil guy is still being a greedy jackass, but the spin isn't helping anyone.

[HOGYOLO]

consequences- a result or effect of an action or condition. saying consequences, is not a threat. i'll fuck you up homeboy is a threat. people dig too deep. that said, the new XL pipeline sounds like a bad idea in every aspect. these white collar, white haired, old white dudes have no interest in our future, just themselves and their paychecks. fuck humans.

[Jkirk3279]

It would be amusing if President Obama offered a deal: guarantee that not one drop of the fuel from the pipeline gets exported, and the Army Corp of Engineers will build it FOR you.

The consequences of breaking the deal being the pipeline is shut down and the executives of the oil companies go to jail.

I can just see them backpedaling now !  "No, no, we can't agree to THAT ! It would be bad for our shareholders !"

[ssawyer1234]

congress an GOP got alot of money for this line - that's why they want it so bad.

[rygelistic]

Sec I'll finish watching this video as soon as I'm done gassing up my car ... ok done, MAN IM ANGRY! *drives off and sits in a drive thru for 20 minutes*

[ITOzann]

Sad....

[jakiner]

Great video! Thanks!

[Trypermovie]

seems I am having troubles posting to my facebook page any links to some of these youtube post. hope it's not the start of NDAA online.

[djmoski9999]

@Trypermovie have you tried putting it into notepad and then copy and paste it into Facebook?

[magiccatphoto]

Oh, he'll bend, he always bends. Obama, the ineffective president in history.

[ahamatmabrahman]

Just put water in your car See HHO engine e.bay also check out HOH engine , not expensive and costs even less if you build your own

[283inc]

let em pipe it to the coat of canada its not ours it doesnt help us how about spending thesame amount to find the lost tesla papers last reported papers found talking about them was dated 1982 so they CANT SAY THEY WERE LOST IN THE EARLY FORTIES LIKE THEY SAY .

iM JUST SAYING PROJECT RAINBOW WAS IN 1942 A LASER WEOPON THEN ROSWELL IN 47 YEAH MAKES SENSE WE FRIED SOMETHINS ELECTRONICS AND STUDIED IT TO SO WAKE THE FUCK UP THERE ARE 3-4 FORCES THAT SCIENCE KNOWS ARE THERE

BUT CANT DEFINE

[chronikful]

Oil, guns, missile, bullets and GMOs. Long live America

[djmoski9999]

@mistermassive1 The problem with Democracy is that the Lobbyist (Corporations) have so much power that they will only allow you to vote for their endorsed candidates. Obama seemed good in the begining but they all say what you wanna hear for your vote. I'm pretty sure that if absolutely nobody votes, the media will still make it out that it is a close race and elect the Corporation puppet that sign legislations they need in order to increase profits! I hope Ron is the real deal!

[pugdogy]

I wonder if this pipeline will be run straight through the pine ridge indian res. in SD; if it is, these oil barons should have to pay the indians millions and first should have to get the indians ok for this pipeline=geesh--these elite sickos are not gonna be satisfied till they destroy what is left of our world

[EarthshipFreedom]

F that pipeline.

[chantalbernard]

Slobs.

[djmoski9999]

If the People rise up, Marshall Law will be put into place and the Lobbyist will take over the Country. Just as planned!

[freevideos051]

is this like the bank bailout, we better do what the big business wants or else, is the US government that weak or are they in the pockets of our government to the point of no return? we need to be more like China, what happens to a business man that causes injury to their people

[lightsource2012]

Great coverage of what is manipulated news in the mainstream!

[MsSarahJ56]

i will say that as an "oil baby" - i disagree with both the pipeline and fracking. there are safe and responsible ways to extract oil and gas. the people at the top are already making insane profit and reducing regulation to make even more profit they dont need at the risk of the rest of us. this is coming from someone who is not only involved in the oil business but someon'e who's family has been involved in the oil business for 4 generations.

[Dacktyl]

Time for a NEW American Revolution.

[mltjns8]

only way to stop these people is for us all to understand our situation and "unthink" their ways.We all have the tools to keep our lives as they are we just have to understand what we do is worth much more than money. WE are society not them.Our society is comprised of so much more than money. "The LOVE of money is the root of all evil." Love thy neighbor as thyself. WE have everything we need to continue our lives without the overlords. Find the truth and you need no ruler.

[in8chro]

im not discounting the info, but i love it when hartmann shows his true colors and who he actually works for

[offenwrong]

so do ya think the NDAA was written to stop- this BS?..nope..it was written to stop protesters

[sdh483]

@offenwrong Read the bill before you make comments instead of relying on Yahoo news.

[KeirGazelle]

@offenwrong Have you read the NDAA? you need to, there is no threat to any American, specially not protesters. You got took by a spammer.

[offenwrong]

@KeirGazelle and @sdh483 yes I have read the bill and the only one that has been taken for a ride here is you...the only provision that prevents us from being arrested is the part were it says during the Obama administration...so what happens when Romney gets the house....nothing to stop him or any other retard in office.

[ProthoPectore]

i did not know that gas was our #1 export.

thankyou.

that makes me very very angry...

[gamersully]

@ProthoPectore yes, especially when gas is as high as it is

[izthebutcher]

The hell is wrong with american media when RT is the only free media in our country.

[mediasurgeza]

@izthebutcher - Isn't the American Media bought and paid for by said Oil Barons?

[alaricdailey]

@izthebutcher no, they are free because they are NOT in our country.

[Rockyj2]

@izthebutcher Sic! AND its BS cuz we only get this info through social media & other very limited resources ONLY if I'm F-N interested in it!

[44prot]

@reasesrch1982 WTF? BP? Gulf of Mexico? Where are you from and what huge rock are you hiding under? You probably should do some actual RESEARCH post 1982

[laztek1]

Soon you will see the vultures eating and biting at each other. There will be a mistake that opens the eyes of the blind. The light in the sky will burn the demons and mark them for what they are.

You will see the world begin to fight back as the monsters retreat into a corner. That is when their Evil master will show his face. There is the vision, a gift to you from me.

[BeantownJim]

obama is a treasonous usurper.Signing that NDAA his word is worthless!

[research1982]

I don't see what the big deal is? If anyone has a record of safety and respect for the environment, it is the oil companies. Can anyone even name a huge spill in the last five years? gees, Thom you hippy. What is next, investing in our educational system? yikes.

[MartianStories]

Yeah, the goddamn spice must FLOW, motherfucker. If not, I'm sure the Oil Barons can find a young Maud 'Dib out there out there somewhere to take any president who doesn't suck the Oil Cock down a notch...

[badaboomrock]

Thom you being a History buff, would know we all have two capacities in law physical and Corporate and since the Government of this country is a Corporation by ending the Corporate personhood we would loose all the ability to control the government. And to the rest of the Na Sayers this is a proven fact once our government incorporated in 1872 the only way could to be a part of it is to become corporations to witch puts us when dealing with the Gov. under UCC Law not common law or civil law.

[jeigo]

shows all this in the movie THRIVE

[stonethugmusic]

AMAN BROTHER YOU TELL THEM "

[DarthSchwartz]

TransCanada agreed to reroute the keystone pipeline. And there's nothing wrong with selling oil to other countries.

[k3v1n47]

Now can we haul out the guillotine...what? too soon?

[callouschristian]

@k3v1n47 Instead of the president and congress let's start with the kock brothers and oil barons. That way these "elected reps" can see what is coming.

[k3v1n47]

@callouschristian I didn't mean the guillotine for our elected representatives, That would be stupid. We can vote those fuckers out. I'm talking about the unelected bastards who think of themselves as royalty (economic royalists in FDR's terms) They screwed up the economy suppress innovation, exploit people at home and overseas. We, in the industrialized world are the only people who can stop them....if we try. I wouldn't want to guillotine the bastards either. I'm against the death penalty.

[bobbytookalook]

Thom, Thom, Thom, get your facts straight. The so-called "tar sands" (oil-saturated sand actually) is no more or less "toxic" than oil produced in Texas or Nebraska. The environmental concern regarding Alberta synthectic crude is the huge amount of natural gas that is required to make steam to extract the stuff. This increases Canada's CO2 emissions by a large factor. Some of your other points re: the economics of "big oil" are valid, but PLEASE knock off the "dirty oil" rhetoric.

[DarthSchwartz]

@bobbytookalook it's nothing new either. the sands have been mined since 1967.

[k3v1n47]

@bobbytookalook Tar sands take 3 barrels of water to process every barrel of oil extracted. Ninety percent of this water becomes so toxic that it must be stored in tailing ponds. Unfortunately these ponds regularly leach pollution into the third largest watershed in the world.

That and Canada doesn't have its own air, air Pollution travels. It's dirty. Thom is absolutely right in his assessment.

[henleythecat]

@bobbytookalook I agree with all of your points.

However, there is another argument in favor of the pipeline Increasing exports will decrease our negative balance of trade. That will have a positive effect on the US economy if WE all benefit from the increased tax revenue.

The deal that should be considered is to OK the pipeline in return for removal of all oil related tax breaks.

Doubt that the GOP would ever agree to a deal.

[wtf0804]

who cares douchebag

[Hydrogenagent]

does anyone see a connection with him also saying we are not the world police Aipac? Is Obama finally going to stand up to them and the bankers?

[getplaning]

@ClaimAmerica4Christ Wow, what a fucking asshole you are

[defkon99]

sound to me like they want him to do their will, if not he wont get a second term.

[ClaimAmerica4Christ]

Wow, what a far-left loon this Jew is.

[bamboo4tameshigiri]

@ClaimAmerica4Christ STFU moron.

[DannyEmbry]

this keystone pipeline would be 'game over' for THE PLANET!

lol, ya that's not exaggerating at all

[bamboo4tameshigiri]

@DannyEmbry They want to run some of the most toxic shit ON EARTH over our largest strategic freshwater reserve. That is THE most ignorant thing anyone could ever want to do.