Bends - What went wrong ?

[DJsonnyANTWERPEN]

it is a FEAR wich have em in hands for left bend's.. he think's every time he will slip onder the car coming from other direction,end that keep(s him from taking the left band free... it is psihical problem... i would take him to close parking place end learn him FIRST to trust the tyres... warm them up end make low left corners in second gear sitting up on right corner of seat !!! this is to get confident with tyers...

[AlexRyteuBart]

I do same when I try do use this technique... I need more experience, I am just few months on the road. But is nice to see this on video so I got better view of what i have to improve ;)

Thanks!

[advancedbiker]

@AlexRyteuBart Go at your own PACE...Balance the Yamaha before entering any bend, right speed, right gear for speed, so any minor adjusts in speed mid corner can be achived through the throttle. Every bend plan fot the EXIT and then lookfor the next bend - There is a world beyond the front wheel - Honest !

[AlexRyteuBart]

@advancedbiker I do 100 miles a day (work and back) so just need a time to master it... thanks for help ;) Already improved alot but still make some mistakes, one day will join you on the road. All best.

[advancedbiker]

@AlexRyteuBart Keep me posted only an email away, also on Facebook if that helps. Glad you said will join me on the road, don't fancy too much off road stuff...... Will send you a link to pdf I have, you may find useful

[ArtoDelFunko]

appears to line up for the bend a little late?

also doesn't appear to cut across to the apex of the bend once he sees the exit?

[richard140278]

Not looking through the corners; plenty of vision to read the road ahead, signs,hedgeline, tree's etc - seemed very timid at leaning the bike through the corner.

Sat upright too much - just like me in the wet....

[BANGITSHarry]

I've only got a CBT but even I know he is going to fast for each turn, left or right bends he was drifting all over the road, crossing lines and getting into the wrong lanes, slow it down for the corners, go atleast 10mph below the speed limit when cornering is what i've been used to, works like a charm.

[tomtresco]

He actually drove on the double white lines at the start, FAILED

[maloney4lfc]

ddo you have to have your own bike for the tests or do they have a selection of bikes you use for the tests



[aeroplod]

Interesting that no-one seems to comment on the positioning on left hand bends when there is opposing traffic. One of my faults in advanced training was to ride near the crown of the road for left handers and sticking there even when opposing traffic demanded that I move well away from the crown to give clearance between me and the traffic. This fault appears in many advanced course videos both polce and civilian. The pannier on one police m/c is above the line - very close to opposing traffic.

[advancedbiker]

@aeroplod - Good comment. Something that needs addressing. You should always be in a position to come off line, and reduce speed, even if you have committed to a line or view in the bend. I will try and do a video to illustrate it. Thanks for the feedback.

[RoadcraftNottingham]

@aeroplod ...take a look at my latest video, advanced lesson with comments, it gives good examples of your point.

[acidongitim]

I bet those tyres has more chicken strips than my dinner plate

[tigerofsweden4]

you guys dont learn to cut the curve in england? you dont ride a bike like you drive a car

[topbanana188]

Terrifying

[MisekD2]

I guess to feel the grip of the bike you really need experience.

Guys, have you any advice how to learn to really lean into corners? Because as I see it you won't find the maximum unless you fall. (which can be extremely expensive ;) )

[FrontPlayer01]

LEAN ANGEL :)

[mkrmec]

tell me in a couple of your videos I've seen the drivers driving right beside the middle of the road lines etc. anyway they are all over the road. You teaching them that to drive like on a racetrack or what?

[CyberEditing]

@mkrmec Agreed, the riders clearly don't know the road & secondly do not have a consistent approach to planning their corner entries, apexes & exits. Here in Taiwan it is imperative to be able to use a racing line on every corner to reduce risk in the case of oncoming idiots overtaking into and round blind corners etc. I'm all for teaching riders to be safe, but these guys just shouldn't be riding bigger bikes until they have learned the essential road / corner assessment skills.

[Eldritch976]

I don´t think we have something similar in Spain. Other than that I had trouble with left bends although in continental europe we drive on the right lane. I had difficulties to properly assess my position when entering and the right place to lean the bike. My advice is, slow down as necessary. Position open (just the place where a car's right wheel should be taking the same bend ahead of you) to best bend overview. Finally weight on the inner footrest to enter and to correct track once u r in

[steviezxr]

not going over the white line is common sense, for anyone from cyclist to car driver. this guy is dangerous.

[duckgeezer]

utterley,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i­f you find riding your bike "terrifying" you're in the wrong hobby mate.

[eurocycle]

I think The problem is, he need to look a head.

So he can adjust speed and position

[asdeaff]

I`m one of those born again bikers!

I`ve got myself a fazer 600, good joice.

I am just getting back into the swing of it and this is my second summer.

I`m sad at the dangerous antics of some of these hot hatch boys.

These buggers think nothing of under-taking at junctions and roundabouts.

I wish I`d kept my ypvs 350. I used to love the smell of 2 stroke in the mornings.

[methardris]

well i think, he has to lean more into the corner when he's taking the left hand turns, that was my problem, don't rant me if im worng xD

[MarcinM592]

he needs to take the outside lane

[ChainsawCarvingUK]

that guy shouldnt be on the fucking road.

[colinmcrae09]

He thinks hes driving a car, with a steering wheel, not enough leaning either into the corners, probably nerves !

[rompowertube]

I've never seen someone ride so badly on the road O_o

[Chubcatcher]

@rompowertube

I suggest you get out more.Its easy to knock sat there in your armchairs.Remember the whole purpose of this video is to highlight and help.Read tommybramwell's post above,says it all.

[SMSBJM1981]

What went wrong: Left handers, not looking far into the turn. Looks like his eyes are glued to the line keeping him on the line. With all turns, he has no confidence to lean the bike or is unaware of proper countersteering. Also, it is generally best reduce speed before a turn and then slightly roll on the throttle through the turn to transfer weight to the rear wheel, making use of its larger contact patch then the front and thus increasing traction.

[CillitBang2008]

Information, Position, Speed, Gear!

[johnnylongsock]

@CillitBang2008 Acceleration

[bable666]

As shown the rider is a bit of a danger to himself and other road users , he's all over the place.

This reducing speed then change gear idea is all wrong.

As you drop speed you should drop your gear in unison .If you don't you could end up coasting into a bend out of gear while finding the right gear !

You should always be in the right gear for the road speed ,power is then always available plus you'll have a bit of engine braking if you require it !

[gunter099]

W T F Hey noobs, wanna live? Get a dirt bike, spend 6 months in the sand and mud and learn how to ride! Geeez.

[geonerd]

I assume there is a radio link between the 'instructor' and the poor student? Hell, with a 'Bitching Betty' like that yelling in his ear, it's no wonder the guy is anxious and screwing up.

[The33JAYJAY]

utterlycutterly, I agree with the comments above.

I've only been riding 3 years now and I've done the same trying to keep up with "mates" and you will end up in trouble if not careful, so ride at your pace and what you're comfortable with.

I did a day with Nigel last year and I am now starting to see the benefit by practicing on my own at my pace.

I've now found a mate to ride with who has the same amount of experience - it helps a lot and much more enjoyable. Good luck JJ

[jimmyrottencauli]

@utterlycutterly

Could be your "turning in" to early.

[utterlycutterly]

thanks for the advice guys i will take on board and put into practice

[advancedbiker]

@utterlycutterly Keep me posted, any more advice, do not hesitate to use the site....

[utterlycutterly]

when this has happened it is usually when we are fairly tramping on so i would be in top gear

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@utterlycutterly there could be a number of factors why you're running wide. firstly, your approach position- near the hedgerow for right handers and near the crown of the road for left handers. remember to sacrifice either position for safety (eg: an oncoming vehicle clipping the bend or a poor road surface)

secondly, your approach speed: use acceleration sense & the limit point to gauge the severity of the bend. (if you go in too slow you can correct anything,but go too fast?you're done for)

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@utterlycutterly thirdly: your gear selection. you say you are usually in top gear? on any 600cc bike you are talking +/-150mph in top gear and i highly doubt you are approaching tight bends at that speed. match the gear to the speed you are travelling at. eg: if it's a 60mph bend, usually 3rd gear would be sufficient. remember! the bike has a second brake (engine braking) so that, when the correct gear is applied, simply by rolling off the throttle, you are slowing the bike for the bend already

[utterlycutterly]

i have just passed my test my self about 6 months ago and i have been out on ride outs with freinds they have more experience than me and i have found it terrifying at times trying to keep up and on many ocasion have drifted into the other side of the road what am i doing wrong is it too much speed ? not enough practice ? do i need to hang off the bike like the sports guys ?

[advancedbiker]

Thanks for the post.

Go at your own pace and not those of your mates. If you are drifting wide, you appear to have too much speed on the approach.

Before I go any further what gear are you in ?

Regards

Nigel

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@utterlycutterly and lastly acceleration: when you have entered the bend in the correct position, at the correct approach speed in the correct gear for the bend, keep your acceleration on a neutral throttle (you want the bike pulling not coasting) again this is why the correct gear is vitally important.

only accelerate out of the bend when the bike is upright and moving in a straight line again.

please don't try to keep up with your mates, ride at your pace and remember:

Position,Speed,Gear!

[BigWolfie1]

dont try and keep up with the faster riders m8. go at your own pace. if their friends at all they will wait 4 u further up the road. groups are usualy made up of various levels of rider find somewhere you feel comfortable. dont go nuts. ( im speaking from experience here) lol ride safe.

[ausglocker]

VERY good advice !!!

[V4nd4d]

@utterlycutterly

countersteering ;)

[jamie381]

The rider in this video was going into the bends faster then he needed to and/or did not turn-lean hard enough to keep in the lane. He also did not appear to be looking into the turn.

[v3n0mb0y]

shit!i was watching this clip and hoped for a crash xD

well...from my opinion...I don't really know...maybe I don't have the experience.

[DimSumJim]

i think he just had an issue "negotiating" the turn earlier. He was already on the outside part of the lane. All he had to do was decelerate/control his throttle, take the bend and accelerate out of the apex (inside of the turn) right? a lot of his turns seem wide. it'd be really dangerous if his rear tire happened to slip on one of those left turns.

[veithorst]

I like right handers more than the left - don't know why. I feel more comfortable in right handers - that's all

[advancedbiker]

Good to recognise it. Left handers could be - If you get it wrong you ofetn head towards oncoming traffic - Rights handers it is the hedge.....

[joseph33634]

Do you drive on the left hand side of the road?

Since I drive on the right side, I find left's to be a lot easier since you have more room to make your turn.

[12751957]

no - I'm living in austria ;o)

I'm driving on the right side

[Helladius666]

Cause you re probably right-hand dominant and you've learned to gyro-steer by pressing right side of handlebar when wanting to turn right... What happens in left turns is that the dominant hand won't let loose and won't let left hand do its job...

[TigerSupercatE1]

i regocnised the roads from 0:30, its on the a534 from nantwich to wrexham, i live about a mile from there!

[kawa7900]

dont worry guys , he`s another one of  those guys that was in motocycle news , you know the kid on cop lol . great how he spends more time talking to us than tuition of the rider eh .

[CCSRoberts]

I think he should try geting his knee down next.

[hughes111]

Maybe the rider is just to comby turning right? It can happen i suppose, maybe the rider just needs more practice?

[keefeh65]

I have noticed i have a simular case of turning left and right. I have recently brought a honda cbr 125r only been riding for 3 days, I have read the above comments but most of is seems garble to me, a im taking the corner too quick or am i in the wrong gear? Or just not turning enough. Also as im going around a left corner should i be center of the road or move out slightly to the right? Hope you can give me some ideas to tighten up my riding.

[gershonbenfranja]

If I didn't know this was an advanced rider, I'd think the rider didn't know how to counter-steer (push steer.) The jerkiness of his corrections seems to indicate this.

If he does, I'd think he was being task saturated by trying something new and would suggest slowing down a bit.

[splatterchap]

The rider does'nt look that confident.. Road position and speed on the bends he was definatley struggling with.. Needs to go back in to a speed restricted area so he can concentrate position... He was actually slowing on some of the bends and cutting the corner that were opening up.. Info, position, speed, gear acceleration.. Simple.

[jason327b]

What was the point of that useless video?

[quinzx]

sucks

[kingmisael12]

did he die?

[monster2802]

Not looking through the turns very well, and turn-in rate is too slow. This guy needs a lot of work.

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[creebean]

it took me two corners to asses that he needed to be in the centre of his lane at least, he was being a danger to other road users, and as an advanced biker surely safety comes before your desire to figure out what he was doing wrong. I would have let him do it twice shown him the film and worked it out from there , with minimal risk to all.

Why was he doing it ? seems very unatural.

[advancedbiker]

I can see where you are coming from and yes safety does come first, but at the speeds we were doing I was quite happy for the rider to do what he did. It proved a point and was a big learning curve for him, using the gears to control the bike was not a natural thing for him to do. The rider went on to gain passess at RoSpa and he continues to improve his riding.

With this instruction 'thing' there is always the unexpected, I suppose it keeps you alert as an instructor, you can always learn.

[MrKyle74]

You don't seem too concerned that he ran wide on one of the left handers. He was lucky there wasn't any traffic coming at the time. I kind of get the impression he wasn't keeping his eyes up or turning his head to look through the corners properly. I'm not sure what RoSpa is (not from the UK) but can't be too difficult to pass.

[advancedbiker]

Thanks for the comments. He was a new rider having just passed his UK test on a 500cc machine. The corners were a problem as he had been taught to try and use top gear as much as possible. No problem in the right place but with cornering you need the flexibility to control the speed through the throttle. This case he couldn't so ran wide.

He did gone on with further training to pass his RoSPA test.

RoSpa, I will send you some info

[creebean]

why is he pulling out to the centre of the road before taking a left hand bend? why does the guy behind not tell him to at least move to the centre of his lane?

[advancedbiker]

This was an assessment session and as the trainer I needed to see what his riding was like. Itake your point though

Regards

Nigel

[stevevox1]

wow, hope he's improved, if I was you I would have made him stop cause on that ride he was an accident waiting to happen, it must worry you terribly when youve got that going on, nice vid 5's

[tommybramwell]

I am that rider, I have improved, I am now an IAM observer and a RoSPA Gold standard rider, Nigel is a great instructor.

[stevevox1]

Glad to hear it mate, Im sure when you look back at this you think yourself it was pretty dodgy in parts, cheers

[nitromad1]

Don't like left hand bends myself, as get it wrong and risk facing oncoming traffic.

Right hand bends are easier.

[05aprilia]

thanks nigel for the tip, will take this into account next time, every little helps lol

Dan

[05aprilia]

imo, the rider in the video, has issues with right hand bends inc, the white lines progressing too far into the bend, in a few parts touching the white lines, BUT i know i do have a problem with right hand bends aswell, it feels as if i am lossing confediance in the conerners on right hand bends, but every now and again i do talk myself though the bends and issue my weakness accordenly i guess more practice, and trust yourself, relax

[advancedbiker]

The problem with righthand bends if you get it wrong, you tend to leave the road on the left. You may be suffering a little with target fixation, looking at bend too much, instead of looking where the bend is going. Try picking up your observations and try focusing on a point past the bend. Try is on a bend you already know, not at speed through. Let me know how you get on. Remember set yourself before the bends and reduce speed before and not in it.

Regards

Nigel

[cartwheelmon]

You may not like the rider, but the instruction and video are fantastic! If you take it in the contex of other riding vids the instructor & instruction sytem are awsome. Should be rated 5 stars for a training vid.

[Terminator860]

I am terrified of left hand bends. If i take them at more than 60 ( in my car ) i feel like i'm gonna crash especially on motorway.

[advancedbiker]

Why are you terrified of left hand bends. ?

Nigel

[Terminator860]

I feel like the back end of the car is going to spin out. This is'nt just in one car it's happened in a number of vehicles. I guess it's cos the wheel is on the right.

[advancedbiker]

It looks as just speed in the bend is too high for the conditions. It may not be as spectacular, but thry the following. You need to introduce more control and to do this try the following:

Lower approach speed

A lower gear, say third to give you the ability to vary the speed with controlled power through the accelerator.

Adopt a neutral throttle on the curve, in otherwords apply power, not acceleration until you reach the apex. The constant power makes the vehicle more stable.

[advancedbiker]

DO NOT look at the bend try and look beyond.

Loose your view, loose your speed.

I'll send you some stuff via your e-mail

[macca1088]

Uhm... the guy can't turn a motorcycle? The instructors should teach counter-steering... It is essential to knowing how to ride a bike.. .They can't just assume that everybody has ridden a bike at some point

[advancedbiker]

This is a rider who I was assessing and we are about 15 minutes into it. I can see where you are coming from, but he has been previously trained to pass his DSA test. The question is, was he taught to ride a motorcycle, or just to pass the test, which does not include much work in the 60mph areas

[macca1088]

I think, like the restricted license... people should be taught their CBT. And given a year on 50cc-125cc bikes. So they learn at their own pace. before being alowed to attain a full lisence.

I'm on a restricted 33bhp lisence...And I KNOW that I can handle my motorcycle alot better than alot of those "weekend bikers" going around on 1 litre motorcycles/tourers... I commute every day on a motorcycle, and feel that without the two years on my CBT i would be nowhere near as competent on a bike

[TheAMGLover]

@macca1088 Indeed , here in Belgium it's the same ...

I'm 31y old now, been driving cars for lots of years now , but still .

If i want a license i immediately have to go for a full licence for big-engined bikes..it's just absurd! That's why i sold my car now and shifted to a 125 vespa px few years back.Had several decent long trips with it , but still..going directly with a heavy 90bhp bike seems absurd..i'll probably get a cbf125 first to get the clutching/gears etc correct

[Likhi]

The advanced riders' courses offered in my area require a rider to have 3000 miles ridden + 1 year of having a full motorcycle license + self-owned bike + bike insurance... I suppose this prevents novices from participating

Of course, this is in the US, so passing the MSF course = full license.

[jonvoid]

these are some really tight roads. gives me tunnel vision just watching this video.

[75kev]

should not be on the road.

[timelapsation]

Here is what went wrong: The guy was trying to steer into the curves. He needs to push on the handle bars in the direction that he is turning in order to maintain control of his bike. This allows you to lean properly and not fight it like this guy did. He is lucky to be alive!

[Kishgofu]

oh this is advanced training! i thought this was CBT! thank god. I thought i was in for some tough shit in my CBT

[fj1200dd]

Dude needs to relax...

[ukmctc]

Should have stopped rider before now, and explained speed and position for cornering. Reading the road markings/signs, fences, hedges, contours.

Explanation, demonstration, execution, debrief.

[billybollock]

Lean lean LEAN OVER

[ianisme]

He has no concept of correct lines. All he is doing is hugging the outside of the bends with no attempt at apexing. As a result he leaves no room for error

[lehoom]

i think he did not cut the corners properly. He was going thru bends at this same disntace from the edge all the way. That`s why he went thru double soild lines risking his life. He should get closer to the middle of road before the corner, look thru corner and the cut it properly and smoothly acceletrating. That`s waht I THINK. I`m dispatch rider for a long time, proper ride is my way to make living. Cheers.

[s1914]

All very interesting as usual with advancedbiker's videos. As it happens this stretch of road is only about 2 miles from me - it's a tricky one and the corners are hard to get right.

[VFR800sco]

As the title reads..Bends what went wrong? Good learning video,the good audio highlights driver faults(and there are a few.)Maybe straight roads like airport runways are the safest option here :)

[Langers123456]

"A long long long...."

[DominicanMarine129]

WTF? what is this, wheres the crash

[DEATHxValor]

The problem is that you are on the wrong side of the road!! lol just j/k...but just watching this is freaky

[ionyou]

2:55 "We'll have a chat at teatime" lol

[r33d2006]

that would be an English joke get it right before you make an ass of yourself ;)

[christoffff]

err no. he just means he's gonna discuss that with the student when they stop for tea at a roadside cafe. Can't imagine in what circumstances that would be funny.

[ulster2k8]

fun :P

[erihan79]

Creepy to watch if you're used to driving on the right side of the road.

[Mikemc]

"if it was me i would have been bothered with the instructions going on in my ears."

At the end he says that he doesn't have the headset on so it was just recorded commentary

- Mike

[jonathan89765]

what is this some kind of a dumb driver's ed video? I was hoping to see a good crash!

[mrhockeynoe]

lol this is ridiculous, KUDOS for people paying you to do this. I don't really see any instruction. The guy can't keep straight lines. Maybe you should teach a beginner biker course as well. Maybe put this stuff in it.

[1234GoPackGo]

what a waste of 4 min of my life

[0rangecod4]

He looks out to the right so he can see if its clear round the bend so he can accelerate, instead he should Be slowing down at the bend and then as he see's its clear he accelerates?

[MilitantOldLady]

why bother, he'll crash, one less problem in the world...honestly..i wish you could flag things "boring"

[23rdMarineCommandos]

Is it so hard to stay in one lane?

[OzrikKnob]

I'd suggest that this rider look farther out through the turn. I think he/she is keeping thier focus to close because they are not comfortable with turning. I'd also suggest a touch more throttle as they reach the apex of the turn.

[advancedbiker]

You are on the right lines, he was not scanning forward enough and at the time was suffering from 'Target Fixation'

[terryyouth]

if it was me i would have been bothered with the instructions going on in my ears. cant imagine, seeing,listening, riding and then checking am i right at the same time listening to voice. it is diff than songs(earphones)as you have to act to instructions at 40mph

[crockofplot]

As the commentator says, lack of speed, meaning he cant lean as far, meaning he cant turn as easily.

His positioning, in terms of police high speed courses is initially perfect, in to the left on a right hander and out towards the centre on a left hander to give an optimal view of what is round the corner.

As said lack of confidence and practice could also be factors.

[grkewa]

Great radio clarity, what system are you using ??

[advancedbiker]

Autocom, the best system in my iopinion. A bit expensive at first, but ease of use and back up, second to none.

[AirmanCylon401]

My guess is Global Warming.

[SpoonFilms]

Global Warming in't real. My guess is vampires did it.

[AirmanCylon401]

Oooh, did I say global warming? I meant Glo-Ball warming, which is like bouncy ball warming, but with phosphorous. Or tennis ball warming, but without the fuzz...

[fordcougar99]

I would say maintaining lane position is

the riders primary error.

[eagle1ron]

needs counter-steering and confidence.

[Wufnu]

I think it's a simple matter of a lack of confidence and being overall uncomfortable in left turns which leads to the mentioned technical problems. It even looked to me that in some turns he actually made the bike drift right because he wasn't comfortable with the amount of lean required to the left. Calls for more parking lot practice and counter steering exercises.

[advancedbiker]

This rider had passed his basic test and according to the presnet system, a qualified rider.......  He is now Advanced....2008

[TrefyJot]

Another good video to show how advanced riders can keep things safer on britains busy roads. Even in mid Wales. The guy is definitely too close to the whites (and over them)on left handers. So many drivers on 4+ wheels cut bends willy-nilly. It's easy to take it wider on rights but anyone who's taken the A44 across the (radnor)Forest Bends will come a-cropper on the loose that sits on the outside. The markings on the crash barriers there are testament to this.

[advancedbiker]

The rider continued with his riding and went onto to do further trainig. He passed his IAM test and is now a ROSPA Gold holder.

We go out on 'fun runs' looking att wyas to improve the instructional techniques and test the equipment.

[Bretty135]

Is this what it is going to be like when i take my test?

[advancedbiker]

Whattest are you going for, DSA or advanced ?

[Bretty135]

I am just starting out and wondered how it will be when i do the c.b.t and then full license test.

[oe2kb]

Would it be a crass over-simplification to suggest that most bikers aren't interested in rules & regulations, preferring to ride as fast as possible is a relatively straight line & that other road users are nothing but an irritation to them? I've been driving nearly thirty years & to see a biker doing things properly is always noteworthy.

Yes, there are lousy motorists, truckers, bus drivers, etc., but I'd suggest that the proportion is larger amongst bikers.

Now for the flack...

[seveprim]

Well I use to ride, (here in Australia) and basically I rode to 2 rules, 1 Dont come off 2, Dont come off. Simple rules that work, cause It will hurt ... You as a rider must consider not just the road rules but if you come of you most likely be in a box, So for the part of dangerous riders I disagree but this person taking the test seems way too right for my liking, but you are taught to ride in the tire lines(made by the cars) as they tend to be smoother and gripper.

[TooManySnakes]

I would say that, from observation, this is true of most younger riders. But in my area most bikers seem to ride responsibly, it appears in fact that most motor bike accidents here happen as a result of a negligent (or just plain stupid and impatient) 4 wheeled motorists. I base this solely on my own observations of local driving...

[tommybramwell]

I would put you top of the class for spotting the target fixation. At the time this was taken I was hugely fixated with the white lines and the curb. Training yourself to look beyond the short term takes time. Thankfully with a lot of practise I have managed to learn to ride the extremes whilst looking ahead. I passed my IAM this month, but I'm still learning each day.

[tarmacscratcher]

Shuts the throttle on just entering the bend, makes the the bike unstable, weight straightens steering. You can tell because Nigel catches up at this point. Can be target fixation too. Rider thinks "Mustn't go over white line"....looks at it....guess what happens next. Do I go to the top of the class Nigel? ;)

[advancedbiker]

Top of the class but not the apple. He does shut off, but because the bike is in too high a gear, it does not respond quick enough

[tommybramwell]

Yes I had passed my test, there's a big difference between riding to pass you rtest and riding the advanced way. Thanks to Nigel's help I'm now an advanced rider and I still take lessons to help improve my technique.

[advancedbiker]

You can never can never stop learning.  One of the biggest diferences ater passing your test is forward obsevation. Scanning the road ahead more.....

[jbmckean]

Has that dude passed his test?

[advancedbiker]

Hello

Yes, a lot of progress made since this clip, which was taken earlier this year. Was out with him last Saturday.

[MDINHI]

See it all the time when riding. Has nothing to do with the gear in this case. The motorcyclist is not counter steering, thus the bike tries to highside or float towards the centerline. When riding at higher speeds with other riders, this will be even more evident as the rider will go even further into the oncoming lane. Great Video...

[fingerhorn4]

Oops: another video with the rider IMO far too close to the centre line all the way round left hand bends. (Sorry it's me again!). At one point he more or less crosses a double white line. Again, I see the logic of being on the right to get a clear view of left hand bends. But once you have arrived there, hugging the centre gives you no leeway if a nutcase is coming at you on the wrong side of the rode. But I said this in response to another video. Sorry to harp on!

[fingerhorn4]

Apologies for typo: "Road". of course!

[simonhep]

My recommendations would be:ask him to do more observations to assess the hazard;select a higher gear before entering the corner;keep a 'feathered' throttle on through the corner to drive more power to the rear wheel and put more weight on the rear wheel,which will make the bike more stable around the corner and steer more positively.

Cheers,Simon

[advancedbiker]

Thanks Simon

Do you mean lower gear, so with the right amount of throttle, the motorcycle responds,

Nigel

ps

Everything else 'Spot On !'

[simonhep]

Sorry, yes, lower gear to raise the revs and allow more throttle control and responsiveness. Simon

[hairytennisball]

excellent...good, relaxed , concise commentary..great video as are the rest for new riders wanting tolsee some advanced tips in action...highly recommended..