Sponeck was sentenced to death, but Hitler commuted his sentence to six years and was not executed for his actions in the Kerch Peninsula. This makes it sound like he was.
@HoustonGD Yes, he was, but he was executed in response to the July 44 bomb plot on Hitler's life, not his actions in the Crimea. The two events were well removed from each other. The point being that if this video deliberately misleads the viewer about the facts, for sensationalism or whatever reason they chose to do so, one must wonder how often they do the same thing with other facts and how accurate and credible they are over all?
I was just reading about this battle in my old Time Mags from 1942...so nice to see a visual of this particular battle here in YT...thanks for uploading!
@Nikitns Yes it's sad. But it's not as bad as the western allies' bias in every single WW2 movie they make. This to me isn't as bad as it could have been.
@tjhoenecke One movie that is so biased it makes me puke is the movie Saving Private Ryan. I mean at one point in the movie you could see 5-8 German soldiers clearly standing about 30-40 meters away from the Captain as he is running over the bridge, shooting like a retarded kid with cerebral palsy and like a kid with CP they didn't hit shit. I can't recall a WW2 movie where American summer green fresh soldiers haven't kicked in the teeth of German seasoned veterans...
@skofuzen Well that has more to do with movies being movies than being historically biased against Germans. Also, the Americans in that scene are a mix of veterans and elites, and not "green, fresh soldiers. Plus it's not like the Wehrmacht was invinceable, or they would have won, right?
@tjhoenecke Watch that movie and go to the scene I was referring to, it's just ridiculous. That didn't have anything to do with the American soldiers, I'm talking about 5-8 German soldiers not capable of hitting that guy from 30-40 meters distance.
The narrator's sympathy is clearly, and almost openly, with the invaders. The continual misuse of 'Russian' (instead of 'Soviet') is inaccurate and invidious.
@taniste I think you're reading way too much into it. They also jump back and forth between using the terms "Russian" and "Soviet," because A) let's face it, the USSR was dominated by one country in particular (care to guess which one that is), and B) using the same term each and every time gets tedious. You also have to keep in mind that the Red Army didn't really start to get its act together until Stalin appealed to nationalism by calling it the "Great Patriotic War."
von Sponeck was sentenced to death, but the sentence was commuted by Hitler to 6 years. He was later executed after the 20th plot on the orders of Himmler.
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rbargery 7 months ago
4:57 a german is using a PPSH... AWSOME!!!
amaniacwithacar 8 months ago
Sponeck was sentenced to death, but Hitler commuted his sentence to six years and was not executed for his actions in the Kerch Peninsula. This makes it sound like he was.
signoridinotti 8 months ago
@signoridinotti Sponeck was executed on July 23, 1944 as a suspected anti-Nazi conspirator.
HoustonGD 8 months ago
@HoustonGD Yes, he was, but he was executed in response to the July 44 bomb plot on Hitler's life, not his actions in the Crimea. The two events were well removed from each other. The point being that if this video deliberately misleads the viewer about the facts, for sensationalism or whatever reason they chose to do so, one must wonder how often they do the same thing with other facts and how accurate and credible they are over all?
signoridinotti 8 months ago 3
I was just reading about this battle in my old Time Mags from 1942...so nice to see a visual of this particular battle here in YT...thanks for uploading!
Albertanator 10 months ago
this documentary is biased as hell.
Nikitns 1 year ago
@Nikitns Yes it's sad. But it's not as bad as the western allies' bias in every single WW2 movie they make. This to me isn't as bad as it could have been.
skofuzen 1 year ago
@skofuzen And what bias is that, exactly? And is it really "every single WW2 movie"?
tjhoenecke 9 months ago
@tjhoenecke One movie that is so biased it makes me puke is the movie Saving Private Ryan. I mean at one point in the movie you could see 5-8 German soldiers clearly standing about 30-40 meters away from the Captain as he is running over the bridge, shooting like a retarded kid with cerebral palsy and like a kid with CP they didn't hit shit. I can't recall a WW2 movie where American summer green fresh soldiers haven't kicked in the teeth of German seasoned veterans...
skofuzen 9 months ago
@skofuzen Well that has more to do with movies being movies than being historically biased against Germans. Also, the Americans in that scene are a mix of veterans and elites, and not "green, fresh soldiers. Plus it's not like the Wehrmacht was invinceable, or they would have won, right?
tjhoenecke 9 months ago
@tjhoenecke Watch that movie and go to the scene I was referring to, it's just ridiculous. That didn't have anything to do with the American soldiers, I'm talking about 5-8 German soldiers not capable of hitting that guy from 30-40 meters distance.
skofuzen 9 months ago
The narrator's sympathy is clearly, and almost openly, with the invaders. The continual misuse of 'Russian' (instead of 'Soviet') is inaccurate and invidious.
taniste 1 year ago 3
@taniste I think you're reading way too much into it.
tjhoenecke 9 months ago
@taniste I think you're reading way too much into it. They also jump back and forth between using the terms "Russian" and "Soviet," because A) let's face it, the USSR was dominated by one country in particular (care to guess which one that is), and B) using the same term each and every time gets tedious. You also have to keep in mind that the Red Army didn't really start to get its act together until Stalin appealed to nationalism by calling it the "Great Patriotic War."
tjhoenecke 9 months ago
"JapKillaFkJapUpDaAss"
That's one interesting name..... ,': \
June28July 2 years ago
von Sponeck was sentenced to death, but the sentence was commuted by Hitler to 6 years. He was later executed after the 20th plot on the orders of Himmler.
2bn442RCT 2 years ago
would be nice if thy mentioned the 22nd Panzer Division rather a vague reference to 60 tanks
2bn442RCT 2 years ago 8
@2bn442RCT they did...
spinynorman230 1 year ago
@2bn442RCT They did at 8:44.
181183R20710 1 year ago
the sequence starting at 7:45 must be from a cinema-movie.. the camera-swing is strange and like on a film-set
hairstyleriioohhh 2 years ago 11
yeah looks like a movie indeed
retardedspacealien 2 years ago
Yes I replayed that part twice before seeing your comment. Same feeling with 8.06 It is clearly a set piece of filming. Perhaps a propoganda effort.
grannman 2 years ago 3
@hairstyleriioohhh no it's a real footage
BremenThug 1 year ago
@hairstyleriioohhh
exactly, i thought that was so cool, very well done, I wonder what year that was done and who did it?
NishHammer 10 months ago