Hey ministry1983, you don't know what you're talking about. If you knew about the industrial music industry in chicago in the late 70's and early 80's you would know everything you said about Al is out of speculation. Check out Special Affect if you can find it. It was a band he was in with Spooky Man from My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult . Al has always been hard. With Sympathy was exactly what you denied it was, a result of producers telling him how to sound.
@FrostytheFlip I don't care whether With Sympathy was the result of producers telling him how to sound or not, it's still the best thing he ever did, as well as the I'm Falling single. Were producers telling him how to play at this show?
Not the "hard core, kick-ass" Industrial, sound of the early-mid 90s. I can't stand the loud, obnoxious in your face later version of Ministry. I'm sorry, but that's just how I feel.
Why Al Jourgensen hates this version so much is beyond me.
efin right on SaveUs Mavis...saw them open @old Comiskey mtv police syncronicity tour. Their set was the sh*t! 2 bad joan jett got booed that day cause her band was on fire!
@carrowteige I was all the way in the front and started throwing some pbj sandwiches at this dude who wouldn't sit down,next thing i know the whole park was throwning s*&#.
i love how AL always plays down this record (with sympathy) when it comes up in interviews. his excuse of not having creative control is a little hard to believe. with sympathy was a great album start to finish.
Totally agree. With Sympathy is a wonderful album.
If one listens to his early Wax Trax demos, and 12 inch singles, you can tell he was into the synth pop/new wave sound. Actually 12 inch singles is songs that almost ended up on With Sympathy. So sureeee he had no creativity and didn't write this album at all lol
Ah just found this record on Vinyl in a junk/antique store in Brighton, England last Saturday! The album was released under the title 'Work for Love' in the UK. What a fantastic find!
@mjwrightuk did you find it in that indoor market place down the lanes?
im from west sussex, uk myself, i wanted this album so bad i had to order it from the U.S , i dident realise it was released in the UK, it must be rare! how much did you pay?
@wonderfulhuman161 Arista long since deleted the master, so the only CDs you can find are almost always used. I also somehow doubt Al would want to remaster the album since he hates it so much. Real pity; it may not be as hard or industrial as his later works but it is certainly more than just standard synth-pop. Though I have to admit I like to freak out fans of his later work by playing With Sympathy before telling them who it is. They usually think it's the Clash for some weird reason.
@icemachine79 I had the album and EP of Work for Love on vinyl when they came out. They burnt up in a storage fire though. I downloaded it on the itunes so I can dig it on my ipod when I get the hankering :p
this entire album is listenable and mostly good, released when most major lable new wave LP's had one or 2 decent singles. there is NO way record company hacks wrote it..
too dark and too good. sort of sad to deny your own legacy Al.
I like all Ministry productions. Can u suggest me other bands that sound/sounded like Ministry in the With Symphaty/Twitch era? Not Skinny Puppy though - i already got their discography
NOT ANY ONE of the first Ministry-songs is written by any record company! all songs are by Jourgensen except "I wanted to tell her" which was written by Jourgensen + Shay Jones. you can check it on the LP or CD.
I saw them open for Madness on Pier 17 in 1983 in NYC. While I liked their work from "With Sympathy," there could not have been a more inappropriate act to open for a Ska crowd. To their credit they were great at that show, but frankly, no one really wanted to hear anything but Ska. Of course, some industrial/metal versions of Ska songs would be a great new project for Al, but that's one man's opinion.
Al Did This record with my boyfriend and Vince Ely in Boston, I got to hang out with The Ministry and the Drummer was married at my house. I love the Ministry now and then. Sorry Al, I know how you hated that time, remember Shasta?
Great song. Love the old footage, all this grainyness adds to the whole atmosphere of it all, esp since its Ministry. 'Everyday is like Halloween' is even better!! Shame about losing Paul Barker. I think Ministry lost its sound after he left and turned all metal on us. Not a tottally bad thing, but Im one of the few who prefer 'Dark side of the spoon'.
I saw them perform at a small club, in 2003. I wanted to get a chant of, "Work For Love" going. But after Al went head first into the crowd, to wail on some guy spitting at him; I thought better of it.
MENSAJE 02.-Pasabas en un dia de escuchar a DIVINE a escuchar a NITZER EBB, pero siempre con insatisfacción, era necesario encontrar algo mas alla del sutil tecno y las duras propuestas del EBM pero de un disco al otro MINISTRY rebaso los logros de muchos otros y dio al mundo esa mezcla perfecta entre punk y electro letras llenas de un oscuro futuro rediseñando el tecno de nuestros tiempos y dando nueva vida al concepto CYBER PUNK, era el destino del ahora transformado Alien Jourgensen
MENSAJE 01.- Yo quiero agregar (en mi idioma) que la transición por la que paso Al Jourgensen es completamente natural para quienes vivimos las mismas etapas en los mismos tiempos. Era inevitable no pasar del new age, new romantic, electro clash e inclujso el high energy a los primeros esbozos de EBM, retumbando en el new beat nacido en belgica, todo en una constante busqueda de una aspereza que llenara la sutil cadencia de nuestro pasado.
Maybe his next genre will be transvestite opera, just please don't re-design your nose like the king of pop and change your skin color to vomit green.
Al Jourgensen should be proud of his early work with early synth-pop new wave creation and remaster "with sympathy". I don't understand his animosity and self-loathing for this showed his true genius of industrial experimintation. Maybe he just became too much of a burnt-out musician/peforming artist like barry manilow on crack.
Al, you insult me by claiming that you were forced, asshole youre saying I have no taste? Your other music sucked a big one. Give me a synth and I can write stupid fast shit. You had talent, then you sold your crap to stupid midwestern goths. dumb fuck
i suck huh ! ime the onenot listening to this stuff sooo ! nwo or land of rape and honey yea thats more like it none of that fake english acssent or any of that noncense
Saw them in N.Y.C. on this tour,female back-up singer had on a sailor suit complete w/ crackerjack hat.We had them revved up,cause we were jumping around like maniacs.this crowd looks like a group methadone nod!!!
I give him a lot of credit for putting out some original stuff for the time and having the balls to change it up the way he did, but to try and "blame" Arista because he was putting out synth stuff is pretty weak. It's part of his history, the band's history, and music history and he should acknowledge it for what it's worth.
What I don't get is the obviously fake British accent from a Cuban born American like Al. I guess it gave the synthpop sound more credibility to be English.
your right it was mid 80s. Just heard an interview with Al. Damn he started early..God bless him. Now that he's "retired" he can look back on these times and laugh rather than be embarassed, ya know?
I listened to With Sympathy over and over again and was a huge Every Day Is Halloween junkie. I wore black and hoped that every club would play it. I got to see them live and they laid this toxic crap on us. I yelled at him as he walked past me,Then went outside and took my red Chanel lipstick and wrote on the windshield of his van YOU SUCK ! silly yeah, but at the time it made me happy. Good times!
bwahahahah! That is so funny. Does anyone else remember seeing them on 'the twitch' tour? Did you have the same reaction as silverhoopearrings? i did.
Would you mind sharing with me how exactly this effect can be created on command? Is there a video plugin, chroma matte, or do you simply just transfer footage to a VHS, wear it out, and then video capture it onto the computer...
I need to know, I'm making a film that needs extensive usage of that particular effect.
I like this stuff, but it kinda put a damper on the older Ministry material for me. Some of the lyrics are pretty cringe inducing, lol, but with sympathy is definetely one of my favorite albums of all time.
I don't care what Al says. Ministry was in tip top form during these days. I lost interest in the band directly after Twitch was released. With Sympathy was a damn good album! Thanks for sharing this rare gem of a concert. I've been looking for som 'WS' era Ministry oon YT for a long time. Thanks to you, my search is officially over. ;-D
That's an amazing video ! Thanks a lot for showing us "old style" ministry :D Their part in elctro music is huge and I personnally like the way they evolved from there but I now understand better why some previous fans have been put off ! Thx for the videos, really.
Saying that they evolved is wrong. Al evolved but he didnt change the band name. Between first two albums and 12" inch singles I see the evolution line but third album is something completly different.. Hudge gap.
Another delicious live performance of classic synth pop Ministry. Why did he leave this behind? He was so much better as a nuwave guy instead of the filthy toxic bum he became. It's not too late Al, retrace your roots buddy, you were so awesome!
Hey all early ministry fans, check out : Partenaire Particulier, french duo from the eighties, they did a legendary eponymous track, vids are available on the tube...it's a pity they didn't tour with Ministry at the time, that would have been a hell of a ticket.
I tried to get my With Sympathy record signed in El Paso recently and Al looked at me and said, "You KNOW I'm not going to sign this." I smiled and said, "It was worth a shot."
Haha, was it at Guitar Center? I've heard a story where he broke the CD and gave the guy $15 to go buy a new one. Kinda harsh eh? I think the earliest he'll go back is 12 Inch Anthology or Twitch.
Yeah, it was at Guitar Center. Perhaps he took pity on mine b/c it was a 12"? He signed my others without a hiccup and that was all the early singles including his very first. I wonder if the story of him not signing mine has been embellished and taken on a life of its own :) The people who were there all day mentioned nothing to me about that when I was showing them the records of mine he signed. I think they would have.
I wonder what Raven, Victor, Scaccia, and Sin think of With Sympathy's material. I like the studio Work For Love but this live one is incredible with the class "KICK SNARE KICK SNARE" Ministry always has in their songs like "The Land of Rape and Honey".
Yeah Al Jourgensen started with Special Affect in Chicago, and later signed onto Wax Trax! to do some early Ministry like Cold Life, then he went to Boston to record With Sympathy with Arista and returned to make stuff like Halloween and All Day.
Thank you for posting this with your take on the Al being bullied debate. I agree with you and I love their old stuff! It's a shame he won't embrace it as part of what has made him a great musician today.
This is VERY cool footage. But to be fair, it is a very different arrangement of the song than what's on With Sympathy. The drums are more aggressive, and the buildup starts off more minimal.
After reading all these posts from people who have been into ministry since the dawn of time i feel so young and naive, only getting into them since 92. Its nice to actuallt see what has gone before, perspective. He doesnt look tottally like he's being exploited and having his creativity blocked, but I do believe he would have gone further if he could
Okay, this was in response to someone who posted that "Dark Side of the Spoon" was their best album. Apparently my comment didn't post in the right place. Just so everyone knows, I *love* With Sympathy
Ministry at their synthpop finest. There are droves of people that agree with me on this!!! Well, Pailhead were really great too. But this stuff is where it's at!
Are you insinuating that what Jourgensen evolved into isn't any good? The last 3 LPs are the finest in auditory warfare. The most ripping and rupturing assault of sonic structures I've ever heard. Ministy of late has redefined heavy metal into industrial goth metal with political overtones. This synth-pop stuff is beautiful, I can't get enough of it...I just gobble it up but you can't take away the brilliant hardcore Ministry of today.
I've been enjoying Ministry for over 16 years and I just came across this album 3 years ago. I was always surprised about the transition from the 12" single albums to the release of twitch, land of rape and honey, etc. But, there is one thing that I can't figure out? On this album was he faking a British accent or is he actually from there??? I figured he was as American as apple pie by listening to him speak on past records as well as watching interviews.
Calms the ego to see Al Jourgensen in disco - new wave, the shock is severe. This is the only good title as this album. LOL
OgreTheGreenGuy 2 weeks ago
I saw uncle al take this record off the djs turntable and smash it at cabaret metro in chicago...gotta love him. Thanx for posting this rare gem....
ivandamico93 1 month ago
I saw them "open" for the Police Synchronicity Tour....Mistry blew them away!
SuperTeledude 1 month ago
This jam literally has everything, including cowbell. Uncle Al was killing 'em!!!
DJName76 1 month ago
sweeeeeet
USA1749NY2SFnSD2Fork 2 months ago
I wish Ministry had stuck to this style, I need more music like this.
halfcabdisaster7 3 months ago
Love it :D
bgoldrock 3 months ago
This made my day. The whole album is fantastic. I'm not as fond of their later Industrial sound, but love this album.
tiffmeister 4 months ago
Wooooooorrrkkkkkk!
ammittei 5 months ago 2
I love all Ministry's stuff. Seems like every industrial band started this way. Anyone else see Trent Reznor in his early stages?
TheRiotousMind 7 months ago
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gardenofarcane 7 months ago 4
he might be a crazy fuck but no one can top these songs.
royalnaz1 8 months ago
No one at Arista forced Al to have a fake British accent, and dance as if he were truly enjoying himself on stage.
7red7 8 months ago 2
@7red7 That is an excellent point, ha ha! How could someone not enjoy this stuff?
halfcabdisaster7 3 months ago
Well Alain / Alien whatever has changed his colors many times over the years. How can you blame him...He's just a crazy fuck.
futuristlimited 8 months ago
@diees he's your uncle?
XxXRammsteinxRoXxXxX 9 months ago
CLASSIC! LEGENDARY! EPIC! UNFORGETTABLE! Feels like home! Thank u uncle Al for making 13 tolerable!!!
brownricegirl 9 months ago
not real
taffyvw 9 months ago
Hey ministry1983, you don't know what you're talking about. If you knew about the industrial music industry in chicago in the late 70's and early 80's you would know everything you said about Al is out of speculation. Check out Special Affect if you can find it. It was a band he was in with Spooky Man from My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult . Al has always been hard. With Sympathy was exactly what you denied it was, a result of producers telling him how to sound.
FrostytheFlip 10 months ago
I meant Groovie man, not Spooky. Frankie.
FrostytheFlip 10 months ago
@FrostytheFlip I don't care whether With Sympathy was the result of producers telling him how to sound or not, it's still the best thing he ever did, as well as the I'm Falling single. Were producers telling him how to play at this show?
chrisnoaro1 9 months ago
@FrostytheFlip groovie man, not spooky.
antipatsy 7 months ago
DEEP!
larrainximena 10 months ago
wow! i saw them one time in this incarnation...
then came halloween...
then Jesus built his hot rod...
all awesome.
radiofreesean 11 months ago
This is the the TRUE MINISTRY!
vortersle 11 months ago
Never in a million years would I have guess this was the same Ministry that I knew only as the industrial band. Unbelievable!
Scrap5000 1 year ago
I think With Sympathy is a good album if you, forget that its from the same band who sang NWO and Psalm 69 etc
gardenofarcane 1 year ago
Was a good popsong that time... after this: Twitch.. and than Stigmata... very funny...
werftenklang 1 year ago
So true SaveUs.
Maskedhaven 1 year ago
this song is awesome live. love the build up at the start.
korndud 1 year ago
This is the best and real Ministry.
Not the "hard core, kick-ass" Industrial, sound of the early-mid 90s. I can't stand the loud, obnoxious in your face later version of Ministry. I'm sorry, but that's just how I feel.
Why Al Jourgensen hates this version so much is beyond me.
Lalo3001 1 year ago 9
efin right on SaveUs Mavis...saw them open @old Comiskey mtv police syncronicity tour. Their set was the sh*t! 2 bad joan jett got booed that day cause her band was on fire!
carrowteige 1 year ago
@carrowteige I was all the way in the front and started throwing some pbj sandwiches at this dude who wouldn't sit down,next thing i know the whole park was throwning s*&#.
thiefatnite 1 year ago
I love this song! I wish I was alive then to watch this in person. 80s new wave is awesome!!!
jump95ify 1 year ago
i love how AL always plays down this record (with sympathy) when it comes up in interviews. his excuse of not having creative control is a little hard to believe. with sympathy was a great album start to finish.
ixceix 1 year ago 2
@ixceix
Totally agree. With Sympathy is a wonderful album.
If one listens to his early Wax Trax demos, and 12 inch singles, you can tell he was into the synth pop/new wave sound. Actually 12 inch singles is songs that almost ended up on With Sympathy. So sureeee he had no creativity and didn't write this album at all lol
LivinWorstNightmare 1 year ago 2
i recently learned that someone by the name of flood produced both pretty hate machine and with simpathy whoever flood is he is a talented musician
royalnash 1 year ago
@royalnash Flood went on to produce seminal albums for depeche mode, U2 and Smashing Pumpkins.
dztroi 1 year ago
with sympathy is not a hard cd to find online but the lp is hard to find and is a bit pricey to. the cd isnt very cheap either
royalnash 1 year ago
my daughters favorite song..minez 2 ;)
mykidzrdope 1 year ago
wow that back up singer is black i did not know that.
royalnash 1 year ago
trent reznor music is a lot like ministry i bet they influenced him
royalnash 1 year ago
i love to play keyboards myself. music is fun.
royalnash 1 year ago
is that Boy George wih the guitar and the mic? oh it's Al.
he's looks cool here..
& this is one of my favorite songs!!!!!
rememberingthedream 1 year ago
Big fan of the early sound. Everyday is halloween, Effigy, etc.
GrollRebuke 1 year ago
Ministry hell yeah!
loveunderlaw 1 year ago
there's anybody know if i can get this same song live on cd or video ???? let me know ....... thanks guys....love it...
HOUSExOFxLORDS 1 year ago
thank you for posting this.
amandacorrin 1 year ago
Their best song ever, good sound....what a difference from this band to now...thanks for the vid...
HOUSExOFxLORDS 1 year ago
i wonder what the backup singer girl is up to now?
JeffGury1 1 year ago
yes found it at snooper's paradise (indoor market). I think I paid a couple of pounds!
mjwrightuk 1 year ago
Ah just found this record on Vinyl in a junk/antique store in Brighton, England last Saturday! The album was released under the title 'Work for Love' in the UK. What a fantastic find!
mjwrightuk 1 year ago
@mjwrightuk did you find it in that indoor market place down the lanes?
im from west sussex, uk myself, i wanted this album so bad i had to order it from the U.S , i dident realise it was released in the UK, it must be rare! how much did you pay?
PatrickIngham21 1 year ago
I remember I've seen the LP with Al and the other guy picture sleeve when visited London on Dec 99 on a records store inside a market.
When I returned 1 year later, the market was no more open! it wasn't it as an expensive record.
coxsonaire 1 year ago
crappy sound and picture quality
i have a better copy
MrSuperbimbo 2 years ago
Upload it!!
jhatzia 2 years ago 2
Thank you!!!
davilafriend 2 years ago
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davilafriend 2 years ago
Why is this album still not available on iTunes?
wjanoch 2 years ago
@wjanoch It is available on itunes: "With sympathy" I dont think the ep of this track is available though.
wonderfulhuman161 2 years ago
@wonderfulhuman161 Arista long since deleted the master, so the only CDs you can find are almost always used. I also somehow doubt Al would want to remaster the album since he hates it so much. Real pity; it may not be as hard or industrial as his later works but it is certainly more than just standard synth-pop. Though I have to admit I like to freak out fans of his later work by playing With Sympathy before telling them who it is. They usually think it's the Clash for some weird reason.
icemachine79 1 year ago
@icemachine79 I had the album and EP of Work for Love on vinyl when they came out. They burnt up in a storage fire though. I downloaded it on the itunes so I can dig it on my ipod when I get the hankering :p
wonderfulhuman161 1 year ago
Wow!!
fstop77 2 years ago
Fucking brilliant, i prefer their early stuff!
PatrickIngham21 2 years ago 4
this entire album is listenable and mostly good, released when most major lable new wave LP's had one or 2 decent singles. there is NO way record company hacks wrote it..
too dark and too good. sort of sad to deny your own legacy Al.
newbowery 2 years ago 4
I like all Ministry productions. Can u suggest me other bands that sound/sounded like Ministry in the With Symphaty/Twitch era? Not Skinny Puppy though - i already got their discography
Filter81 2 years ago
Early Ministry was the SHIT!!! thanks fro posting!
aaronquy1968 2 years ago 17
"You said you needed full time help cos you're all alone I said I'd work for nothing at all if I just could take you home"
The transition Al made from soft and moody to hard headed and stern always amazes me. Did the company really write ALL the songs?
noburningbushes 2 years ago
NOT ANY ONE of the first Ministry-songs is written by any record company! all songs are by Jourgensen except "I wanted to tell her" which was written by Jourgensen + Shay Jones. you can check it on the LP or CD.
aeronpanick 2 years ago
@aeronpanick oh I see. The CD is hard as fuck to find.
noburningbushes 2 years ago
I saw them open for Madness on Pier 17 in 1983 in NYC. While I liked their work from "With Sympathy," there could not have been a more inappropriate act to open for a Ska crowd. To their credit they were great at that show, but frankly, no one really wanted to hear anything but Ska. Of course, some industrial/metal versions of Ska songs would be a great new project for Al, but that's one man's opinion.
consect 2 years ago
Yes Paul Barker was very good and Ministry may not have made it as far as they did if not for him, check out Lead Into Gold for some Barker madness
Locust1313 2 years ago
we all grow and come full circle, thanks Al(Alien)
Locust1313 2 years ago
Al Did This record with my boyfriend and Vince Ely in Boston, I got to hang out with The Ministry and the Drummer was married at my house. I love the Ministry now and then. Sorry Al, I know how you hated that time, remember Shasta?
Abbebeck 2 years ago
Great song. Love the old footage, all this grainyness adds to the whole atmosphere of it all, esp since its Ministry. 'Everyday is like Halloween' is even better!! Shame about losing Paul Barker. I think Ministry lost its sound after he left and turned all metal on us. Not a tottally bad thing, but Im one of the few who prefer 'Dark side of the spoon'.
Hambag2009 2 years ago
Be proud Al. What a gift you have. Thank you.
Itojo2007 2 years ago
I saw them perform at a small club, in 2003. I wanted to get a chant of, "Work For Love" going. But after Al went head first into the crowd, to wail on some guy spitting at him; I thought better of it.
NickCave13 2 years ago 4
MENSAJE 02.-Pasabas en un dia de escuchar a DIVINE a escuchar a NITZER EBB, pero siempre con insatisfacción, era necesario encontrar algo mas alla del sutil tecno y las duras propuestas del EBM pero de un disco al otro MINISTRY rebaso los logros de muchos otros y dio al mundo esa mezcla perfecta entre punk y electro letras llenas de un oscuro futuro rediseñando el tecno de nuestros tiempos y dando nueva vida al concepto CYBER PUNK, era el destino del ahora transformado Alien Jourgensen
noevaldes 2 years ago
MENSAJE 01.- Yo quiero agregar (en mi idioma) que la transición por la que paso Al Jourgensen es completamente natural para quienes vivimos las mismas etapas en los mismos tiempos. Era inevitable no pasar del new age, new romantic, electro clash e inclujso el high energy a los primeros esbozos de EBM, retumbando en el new beat nacido en belgica, todo en una constante busqueda de una aspereza que llenara la sutil cadencia de nuestro pasado.
noevaldes 2 years ago
Maybe his next genre will be transvestite opera, just please don't re-design your nose like the king of pop and change your skin color to vomit green.
alleybat66 2 years ago
I agree! Although alot of the old synths had rather complicated user interfaces, they were fun. Got to admit that modern synths are pretty sweet.
brandonskala 2 years ago
B4 they went all hardcore! I like the hardcore stuff to, but, this is the jam!
dwashington314 2 years ago
Al Jourgensen should be proud of his early work with early synth-pop new wave creation and remaster "with sympathy". I don't understand his animosity and self-loathing for this showed his true genius of industrial experimintation. Maybe he just became too much of a burnt-out musician/peforming artist like barry manilow on crack.
alleybat66 2 years ago 5
You know a song is good when the sound quality's shot to hell, and you're still tapping your feet.
SaveUsMavis 2 years ago 29
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SaveUsMavis 2 years ago
Al, you insult me by claiming that you were forced, asshole youre saying I have no taste? Your other music sucked a big one. Give me a synth and I can write stupid fast shit. You had talent, then you sold your crap to stupid midwestern goths. dumb fuck
jlmarc01 2 years ago 2
i suck huh ! ime the onenot listening to this stuff sooo ! nwo or land of rape and honey yea thats more like it none of that fake english acssent or any of that noncense
txballer09211 2 years ago
I have everything up to the mind is a terrible thing to taste, after that it started to hard for me.
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p a t h e t i c al j this sux big time
txballer09211 2 years ago
you suck!!
82GROZERIAX 2 years ago
will keep my old ministry vinyl till the day i die---everyday is halloween and all day flipside===and the other one is nature of love----:)
BLIXAENDENEU 2 years ago 3
Aha! @4:10+, my dear friend Shay Jones singing backup!
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themikealike 3 years ago
early ministry was awesome and stephen george was a great drummer
bluecollaryoga 3 years ago 5
Stevo!
benzaco 2 years ago
I know! He sampled the fuck out of this, and Kon Kan's "I Beg Your Pardon" too.
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this sounds sort of similar to "The Clash."
thejerseydude 3 years ago
Saw them in N.Y.C. on this tour,female back-up singer had on a sailor suit complete w/ crackerjack hat.We had them revved up,cause we were jumping around like maniacs.this crowd looks like a group methadone nod!!!
jaghoff 3 years ago
This is where Purple Rains live shit was filmed I think.
ShaNaNa1973 3 years ago
I give him a lot of credit for putting out some original stuff for the time and having the balls to change it up the way he did, but to try and "blame" Arista because he was putting out synth stuff is pretty weak. It's part of his history, the band's history, and music history and he should acknowledge it for what it's worth.
neoaztlan2 3 years ago 6
love it
ttebroc235 3 years ago
wow!!! first avenue!
they sound so incredible
roxyepoxy1988 3 years ago
This is one of my favorites tracks for sure :D
romeodigital 3 years ago 4
ive been watching this video every day for about a week. How did you get this? Thank you so much.
blpix 3 years ago 4
so fucking amazing. Its hard to find their music of those days, but wow to find a live video, such amazing. wow.
defsummer 3 years ago
Great, great stuff. Those were the days: Great clubs, great tunes.
LetonBrain 3 years ago
this is surely interesting but i think ministry got more of an edge when they discovered the power chord
v668 3 years ago
Otra bomba!!! Genial.
Spasmolityc 3 years ago
cool, thanks for posting!
IAMTVPRODUCTIONS 3 years ago 2
What I don't get is the obviously fake British accent from a Cuban born American like Al. I guess it gave the synthpop sound more credibility to be English.
deesonic41 3 years ago
"I'll even sing synth pop if you want me to"
- Uncle Al, early 80's
"Fuck this shit, I'm shooting heroin"
- Al, mid 80's
27783781 3 years ago
try late 80s
synthpopclassics 3 years ago
try '83 or '84. With Sympathy was released in '83.
cbaccus2 3 years ago
the heroin shooting was late 80s, not early 80s, dummy.
synthpopclassics 3 years ago
Actually heroin has been around way before the late 80s, but that's okay. You obviously are the historian.
cbaccus2 3 years ago
i was talking about AL's heroin shooting. not when people started using heroin(in asia for eons)
synthpopclassics 3 years ago
your right it was mid 80s. Just heard an interview with Al. Damn he started early..God bless him. Now that he's "retired" he can look back on these times and laugh rather than be embarassed, ya know?
blpix 3 years ago
I listened to With Sympathy over and over again and was a huge Every Day Is Halloween junkie. I wore black and hoped that every club would play it. I got to see them live and they laid this toxic crap on us. I yelled at him as he walked past me,Then went outside and took my red Chanel lipstick and wrote on the windshield of his van YOU SUCK ! silly yeah, but at the time it made me happy. Good times!
SilverHoopEarrings 3 years ago
bwahahahah! That is so funny. Does anyone else remember seeing them on 'the twitch' tour? Did you have the same reaction as silverhoopearrings? i did.
owenklgc 3 years ago 2
Work for Love, boy did he ever, if they only knew!!!!
1dawnho 3 years ago
i adore the vcr affect - honestly - i am currently making videos with this type of effect - it's the world i wanna be in!
robotaholic 3 years ago
Would you mind sharing with me how exactly this effect can be created on command? Is there a video plugin, chroma matte, or do you simply just transfer footage to a VHS, wear it out, and then video capture it onto the computer...
I need to know, I'm making a film that needs extensive usage of that particular effect.
JohnnySwitchblade 3 years ago
its funny how the vcr effect is now considered cool, just like the effect from film strips is considered retro
apage123 3 years ago
I like this stuff, but it kinda put a damper on the older Ministry material for me. Some of the lyrics are pretty cringe inducing, lol, but with sympathy is definetely one of my favorite albums of all time.
Rhodesia32 3 years ago
I don't care what Al says. Ministry was in tip top form during these days. I lost interest in the band directly after Twitch was released. With Sympathy was a damn good album! Thanks for sharing this rare gem of a concert. I've been looking for som 'WS' era Ministry oon YT for a long time. Thanks to you, my search is officially over. ;-D
nuwavegurl 3 years ago 4
anyone have Effigy on video?
skeleman 4 years ago
fucking great live performance! its really hard with those repetitive song structure to keep the overview! great job also in the vocals...
Jauly 4 years ago
Ministry kicks ass, whether it's new or old!
DoomMantia849 4 years ago
I've heard there is an actual conceptual video for this floating around.. anyone ever seen it?
rivetbutt 4 years ago
Thanks for uploading this. I always have and always will love this song. I still have WS on vinyl, god I feel old. lol
j7609 4 years ago 2
That's an amazing video ! Thanks a lot for showing us "old style" ministry :D Their part in elctro music is huge and I personnally like the way they evolved from there but I now understand better why some previous fans have been put off ! Thx for the videos, really.
somk2 4 years ago 2
Saying that they evolved is wrong. Al evolved but he didnt change the band name. Between first two albums and 12" inch singles I see the evolution line but third album is something completly different.. Hudge gap.
ash23neuro 4 years ago
God, what a brilliant intro he added! It's beautiful. All haters of electronic music should hear it.
RainPoetry 4 years ago 2
Another delicious live performance of classic synth pop Ministry. Why did he leave this behind? He was so much better as a nuwave guy instead of the filthy toxic bum he became. It's not too late Al, retrace your roots buddy, you were so awesome!
twilightscum 4 years ago 2
I love Al's voice
unguardedsmiles 4 years ago
I live both ministries, either synth and metal, but I really enjoy it more until The land of rape and honey.
Nice videos
animusicrecords 4 years ago
Hey all early ministry fans, check out : Partenaire Particulier, french duo from the eighties, they did a legendary eponymous track, vids are available on the tube...it's a pity they didn't tour with Ministry at the time, that would have been a hell of a ticket.
hfyuutr 4 years ago
Try to fine Fadgaget?
LQQKINGMAN 4 years ago
Hey all early ministry fans check out Chevelles - "I get it now" song which sounds very much like early ministry.
tiernet 4 years ago
holy shit this songs awesome..i really need to find this cd
y3arz3ro 4 years ago
Great stuff, great times! I could never understand why A.J. disowned this stuff...
alienboy889 4 years ago
some people are not proud of thier past.
i do like his new wave stuff.
ollieroks 4 years ago
Hmmm....Good bedtime tunes. What a change.
milletoid 4 years ago
Where are Steve George (drummer)?
OLDMAMUTE 4 years ago
Ahaaa, Ministry in the early days...
doctorwhonico 4 years ago
i was a very fan of Ministry @ this era synthpop+industrial they where ORIGINAL and GREAT now they look sound and behave like a BUNCH of REDNECKS
aereone 4 years ago
Reminds me of Cabaret Voltaire
Aries2012 4 years ago
I tried to get my With Sympathy record signed in El Paso recently and Al looked at me and said, "You KNOW I'm not going to sign this." I smiled and said, "It was worth a shot."
E23R0 4 years ago
Haha, was it at Guitar Center? I've heard a story where he broke the CD and gave the guy $15 to go buy a new one. Kinda harsh eh? I think the earliest he'll go back is 12 Inch Anthology or Twitch.
jhatzia 4 years ago
Yeah, it was at Guitar Center. Perhaps he took pity on mine b/c it was a 12"? He signed my others without a hiccup and that was all the early singles including his very first. I wonder if the story of him not signing mine has been embellished and taken on a life of its own :) The people who were there all day mentioned nothing to me about that when I was showing them the records of mine he signed. I think they would have.
E23R0 4 years ago
I wonder what Raven, Victor, Scaccia, and Sin think of With Sympathy's material. I like the studio Work For Love but this live one is incredible with the class "KICK SNARE KICK SNARE" Ministry always has in their songs like "The Land of Rape and Honey".
jhatzia 4 years ago
Why wouldn't he sign it? I know they sounded like a completely different band back then, but c'mon.
ProjectKram 4 years ago
Damn the last 3 minutes rule. Way better than the album.
njf0 4 years ago
weren't they a band from chicago?
skeleman 4 years ago
Yeah Al Jourgensen started with Special Affect in Chicago, and later signed onto Wax Trax! to do some early Ministry like Cold Life, then he went to Boston to record With Sympathy with Arista and returned to make stuff like Halloween and All Day.
jhatzia 4 years ago
Thank you for posting this with your take on the Al being bullied debate. I agree with you and I love their old stuff! It's a shame he won't embrace it as part of what has made him a great musician today.
tinkertoes92797 4 years ago
This is VERY cool footage. But to be fair, it is a very different arrangement of the song than what's on With Sympathy. The drums are more aggressive, and the buildup starts off more minimal.
carrollthirteen 4 years ago
...and I'll FINALLY be seeing them, within the next 24 hours...and yelling for With Sympathy songs mostly...just to get Al's goat.
:)
carrollthirteen 3 years ago 2
saw ministry on this tour in '83 at the channel in boston. great live band -- tougher than the record.
takingtiger 4 years ago
memories.
takingtiger 4 years ago
After reading all these posts from people who have been into ministry since the dawn of time i feel so young and naive, only getting into them since 92. Its nice to actuallt see what has gone before, perspective. He doesnt look tottally like he's being exploited and having his creativity blocked, but I do believe he would have gone further if he could
dorianleakey 4 years ago
Wow!! Thank god for Youtube. I love this early stuff.
ksermas 4 years ago
Big fan of Al & all his New Wave Releases. Thanx for the post. Diggin on the live show.
superdave8x 4 years ago
Ministry has defently improved over the years cause this sucks. The new one Rio Grande Blood is their best.
AgressiveTyrant1 4 years ago
hahahahaha.... plz tell me your kidding
clockwork11 4 years ago
Okay, this was in response to someone who posted that "Dark Side of the Spoon" was their best album. Apparently my comment didn't post in the right place. Just so everyone knows, I *love* With Sympathy
clockwork11 4 years ago
al looks like a homo who would have thought
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koito22 4 years ago
I think that U r gay man and he just looks too hot to U.
ash23neuro 4 years ago
Ministry at their synthpop finest. There are droves of people that agree with me on this!!! Well, Pailhead were really great too. But this stuff is where it's at!
stereograph 5 years ago 3
Are you insinuating that what Jourgensen evolved into isn't any good? The last 3 LPs are the finest in auditory warfare. The most ripping and rupturing assault of sonic structures I've ever heard. Ministy of late has redefined heavy metal into industrial goth metal with political overtones. This synth-pop stuff is beautiful, I can't get enough of it...I just gobble it up but you can't take away the brilliant hardcore Ministry of today.
lolliwag 5 years ago
There's gotta be somebody out there who can clean this video up.
yourmomisthebest 5 years ago
I've been enjoying Ministry for over 16 years and I just came across this album 3 years ago. I was always surprised about the transition from the 12" single albums to the release of twitch, land of rape and honey, etc. But, there is one thing that I can't figure out? On this album was he faking a British accent or is he actually from there??? I figured he was as American as apple pie by listening to him speak on past records as well as watching interviews.
jimmyceaser 5 years ago