I was fortune t enough to work for Allen as his chef, I have nothing but praise for the man,his vision, and his wealth of knowledge , I left his employ with a new found quest for life and search for knowledge and will look back with nothing but respect and gratitude for the view of life he gave me.. THANK-YOU ALLEN and your family.
Right Wing Capitalists buy art as objects because they see them selves as objects, soldiers with war trophies, literally stolen. It is about as meaningful as a bunch of toys in a cot. In the end he has to defend his greed and he can't.. uses arts most superficial quality, glamor to try and pull the wool over his nakedness, ugly
we need more of this influence in the world. one of those pieces could have payed for a bomb that would have destroyed the land on which they sit. in contemporary society, however, taht would not be logical. there are far too many priorities- taking care of the indignant, the enviornment, ect. we put our money in the wrong places. imagine what this world would be like if we had this mindset from the begenning
what a shame there are so many perfectly miserable, non achievers who deem it necessary to attack this artwork as per comments below. Have some fun you lot and lighten UP!!!!!
Im from NZ and i can tell you now this guy is NOT liberal. The act party (which this guy is a member of) in my country are seen as right wing extremists and are currently in a coalition government with the national party (who are our version of the republicans). He is also known as the prick who sold telecom, our largest and most lucrative company. He attacks proportional government? His party wouldnt even be in if it wasnt for that system! They got less than 4 percent of the national vote...
According to Abraham Lincoln, we should have a rebirth of freedom with a government BY, FOR and OF the people. Abe would be sad to see how America has become a government of corporate socialism where enormous hand outs every year to large corporations and many pay little or no taxes.Corporate socialism aka corporatism aka fascism. If goverment should be the people, the people need to fight harder to take back control from the corporations.
this fuckin arsehole helped in selling New Zealands assets..now we have nothing and we are owned by off shore countries...now hes spending up large on New Zealands tax money..fuck him..trust me im a New Zealander..this guy is hated..id fuckin burn his farm down
That voluntarization of government helped everyone in New Zealand. You should be thanking Gibbs for the relatively high quality of life enjoyed here today. I suggest you go look up public choice economics and microeconomics. Or consult the index of economic freedom and see what more economic freedom does for people.
@asdfgasdfasdful are you retarded? thanking him and his National buddies? are you talking about ecomonics or Rodgernomics? "high quality of life enjoyed here" yeah only for the rich you fucking ignorant little cunt..this generation made there money off the government baby boomers now todays generation cant even buy a house..oh but at least we have this Art to look at
You're making no arguments whatsoever. I suggest you consult the actual economic data on the increase in real compensation in NZ and the correlation between the well-being of the poorest 10% and economic freedom, and comparative quality of life for the poorest 10% in NZ vs. the rest of the world.
Things can always be better, and unfortunately government still grows. The more we maximise voluntary human interaction and minimise the coercion of the state, the better off we all are.
oh god damn ... we have another rupert murdoch coming up. there goes the last nice country to the cancer of republicanism. if his vision takes root, new zealand will into a decimated hellhole just like everywhere else capitalism has taken hold. capitalism is like AIDS ... once it touches you, you got it, it will kill you, and it is utterly incurable ...
@paragshah2112 what's so wrong with capitalism??? Its just a label for voluntary human social interaction. I do have a problem however with an Elite group of overlords telling, rather FORCING PEOPLE as to how to live their lives. This elite force becomes all the more sinister once it's given the monopoly of PRINTING MONEY!!! True Capitalism on a macro economic scale doesn't exist anywhere on the planet today because CENTRAL BANKS dominate the planet with their paper money. Thus the RAT RACE!
@joeymackaroni the problem with capitalism is that it is a bloodsport. and in its purest form it is predatory. it destroys everything it touches and consolidates all the wealth and power into a few hands. its interests are vile and insidious, and it is amoral at its very root. a pure capitalism pretty much a fiefdom with just the king on top and the rest are nothing more than human cattle. democratic socialism is the only form of govt that protects and looks after its citizens.
@joeymackaroni by going to the gold standard we run into the problems of limited wealth. it sucks because wealth becomes extraordinarily hard to accumulate. the central bank creating more currency that still holds its value but for a small technical decrease is a good way to get everyone wealthier, but the god damn slimeball bank isnt supposed to call the bonds in! they do that when they feel like pulling the rug out from under our feet. the central bank works only when it is govt owned.
i would have had respect for him/it if it were a labor of love. you know those things whose greatest investment is time not money. he didn't even build/design them, wth? i don't know anything about that guy but i see no grace in what is there, it seems very insincere
@2010BusinessWoman If you have ever decorated then you might understand. When a person walks into a room they sometimes have an opinion of it. Things could look too dark, drab, or out of date. This is the eye of an artist. The art is fixing it, making what you see look the best it can. There are also many other reasons for art, but maybe you can understand this way.
This man is an inspiration for his art, but more for his profoundly humanist philosophy. It's a misnomer to label him "conservative." He is a clear and unambiguous libertarian, the only sustainable and logically coherent political position to have.
@asdfgasdfasdful Gibbs knows very little about art, he is only a patron of established artists that present him with a good investment. To exploit as he wishes.
Art is subjective. One does not need to know anything about what you or I consider "art" to "know about art." And he is not "exploiting" anything, and like everyone should be free to do as he wishes.
As an artist I find his motives questionable. For me he represents a nightmare art patron. Someone who has no desire to support emerging artists, but sees art as an investment. An artist very rarely has any say as to who purchases there art and what they use it for. He is using others creative voice to make a private museum that in part helps to support his political views, exploitation of others visions for sure.
@asdfgasdfasdful I am sick of people thinking they can just write a fat check then they have the right do what ever THEY want. Not everyone is an artist or knows about it, but a big part of art is inspiring critical thought. We are not free to do as we wish just because we bought a gun or a car, or even a can of spray paint has rules as to how it should be thrown away.... Art has it's own responsibilities...... and in this case I object to the use.
@asdfgasdfasdful what nonsense! Everybody is a individual but you live with others as well thats the why governments from a historical point of view is what organizes society, if you wish to be totally free you and Gibbs can go to live in the Sahara or in the Borneo jungle as cavemen where you pay no taxes no rules exist or abide to none. States are just neutral it depends whos in charge that makes them good or bad. His got it completely wrong, what enforces private property is the law
1. Governments have never been formed that way, factually speaking. I suggest you look up Cambridge archeologist Norman Yoffee's "Myths of the Archaic State." Or search youtube for "fringeelements rise of civilization" for a simple historical explanation of the origin of the state.
2. Gibbs is a minarchist, not 100% against government. However you do not need the state for property rights or law. I suggest economist Bruce Benson's "The Enterprise of Law: Justice without the State."
@asdfgasdfasdful Look suggesting books is not a proof of anything, the fact remains that through out history the civilizations that overcame the others had more sophisticated states witch enabled them to have better economies, create a currency, improved the security of its people, develop technology, build a army, expand. Those peoples that didn't, they just disappeared as such. Its as simple as that.
No, that's not a "fact." You are making assertions with no evidence. I am making assertions and referencing evidence. You are objectively wrong and the ignorance of statists like you is what enables mass poverty, starvation, war, dictatorship, and parasitism that plagues humanity.
@asdfgasdfasdful No evidence what about history itself !!?? You deny that civilizations like Egypt, Babilon, the lydians, the city states of Greece or the Republic of Rome became what they ware because they had a fairly sophisticated form of government in contrast to there counterparts ?? Conquest and empires are not only why they are remembered also the legacy they left. What legacy nomads and barbarians leave in comparison ??
@asdfgasdfasdful History is a fact itself. I'm not a "statist" I dont even know what you mean by that. And as interesting as you ideas may be of a none existent government I find it hard to bring it to reality or how can a society organize itself just based on free market principles...You are just farfetched as communists are with a idea of having the state running everything, its a matter of balances, not positives and negatives like everything in life
@asdfgasdfasdful how an earth can capitalism exist without a state anyway?? States that emit currency (backed of course by central banks). Just imagine the volumes of exchanges of goods, services and information now days, how can it work just by trade like in the old days when people exchanged a donkey for pottery for example??
Those beliefs are just as utopist as the communist idea of the state in control of everything
Currency existed for thousands of years before central banks, and still exists today not provided by central banks. In every case study of free banking in the 19th century, for example, currencies competed. And of course commodities like gold were money and still are. Go look up anything ever written on the history of money.
@asdfgasdfasdful Currencies compete even today, whats your point??Yes various forms of currency existed in the past like metals and salt, the problem begins when it comes to certify that that coin or metal is really worth a X amount of capital, plus there limitations as countable units. If we ware in middle east 4000 bc you wish to sell me a cow and I come a long from far with a coin and say that its worth it, how can you tell its so..? You've got it wrong pal, just get real
I'm from Argentina and for a politician here (no matter how far liberal he may be or right wing) to say that all schools and hospitals should be privatized he would be scrutinized and have is carrier destroyed. Plus saying that the state can't run anything, that its only purpose is to enforce private property and to "facilitate contracts" (lol that sounds so corrupt, he must of facilitated contracts for telecom), why cant he say incentivize business and trade or whatever..??
Why would I care what the average person in Argentina or anywhere else thinks? Most people in the world thought the Earth was flat a few thousand years ago. Most people thought that kings were divinely appointed by God a few hundred years ago. etc.
The government is not magic. It does not create anything that was not there before. The government is a group of individuals with an ideologically subsidized monopoly on proactive physical coercion in an arbitrary territory. That's it.
Why should I care then what you say?? The concept of communism is much more modern than the concept of capitalism and yet its already proved impossible to work and useless in realty.
Who said its the roll of governments to create things?? Governments are to organize and regulate society. You're definition is rather cynical though I think it applies more for a specific form of government witch is a dictatorship.
@asdfgasdfasdful Libertanian politics will, at best, lead to an American style democracy where the whole political scene is dominated by corporate lobbying groups.
New Zealand is already more libertarian than the US (consult the indices of economic freedom). And corporations are government-created and government-subsidized legal fictions.
Care to make any actual logical argument as to what libertarianism will lead to?
Too much money has warped his mind. I am an artist from NZ and find Gibbs to be heartless. How is he thinking he is a better patron of the arts than Castro? When Gibbs takes the artist works presenting them in a private museum that generates money to promote his own conservative and non humanist political agenda. People think because they can write a fat check that makes them an art patron, where his lack of depth and understanding of the subject is shocking. Yuck!
Whats strikes me is not the fact that this guy is ruining the NZ country side landscape, its the idea that remains in many Anglo countries like US or Australia that Governments should be dismantled, completely privatize a nation's assets, and dissolve market regulations and this is after the financial crises exactly due from that. People like Palin or Gibbs don't know the difference of there elbow from there asses when it comes to international issues, thats when they become dangerous
What a wanker...privatising national services...who the hell does he think he is?!
FredericBayer 9 months ago
I was fortune t enough to work for Allen as his chef, I have nothing but praise for the man,his vision, and his wealth of knowledge , I left his employ with a new found quest for life and search for knowledge and will look back with nothing but respect and gratitude for the view of life he gave me.. THANK-YOU ALLEN and your family.
snapperheadable 1 year ago 2
Right Wing Capitalists buy art as objects because they see them selves as objects, soldiers with war trophies, literally stolen. It is about as meaningful as a bunch of toys in a cot. In the end he has to defend his greed and he can't.. uses arts most superficial quality, glamor to try and pull the wool over his nakedness, ugly
ArtAristocracy 1 year ago 14
we need more of this influence in the world. one of those pieces could have payed for a bomb that would have destroyed the land on which they sit. in contemporary society, however, taht would not be logical. there are far too many priorities- taking care of the indignant, the enviornment, ect. we put our money in the wrong places. imagine what this world would be like if we had this mindset from the begenning
inches2669 1 year ago
what a shame there are so many perfectly miserable, non achievers who deem it necessary to attack this artwork as per comments below. Have some fun you lot and lighten UP!!!!!
brettnaseby 1 year ago
Kiwis = Niggers of the World
Fuck this old rich man!
kittykgirl 1 year ago
its a shame he doesn't 'feel like' saving someone's life from poverty and starvation instead of buying that big pile of crap.
MariluLane 1 year ago
Im from NZ and i can tell you now this guy is NOT liberal. The act party (which this guy is a member of) in my country are seen as right wing extremists and are currently in a coalition government with the national party (who are our version of the republicans). He is also known as the prick who sold telecom, our largest and most lucrative company. He attacks proportional government? His party wouldnt even be in if it wasnt for that system! They got less than 4 percent of the national vote...
LuckyLukeNZ 1 year ago
I am very happy now.
Coeleomic08 1 year ago
According to Abraham Lincoln, we should have a rebirth of freedom with a government BY, FOR and OF the people. Abe would be sad to see how America has become a government of corporate socialism where enormous hand outs every year to large corporations and many pay little or no taxes.Corporate socialism aka corporatism aka fascism. If goverment should be the people, the people need to fight harder to take back control from the corporations.
exenrontexas 1 year ago
Take your god damn trumpet art SHIT and help contain BP's oil disaster in the Gulf!! I would love to yodel out of that on a morningly basis, hehe.
welcomegohome 1 year ago
7:06 Cocteau Twins! Yay!
onandofflooker 1 year ago
this fuckin arsehole helped in selling New Zealands assets..now we have nothing and we are owned by off shore countries...now hes spending up large on New Zealands tax money..fuck him..trust me im a New Zealander..this guy is hated..id fuckin burn his farm down
fu3ar25 1 year ago 2
@fu3ar25 right on!
loveandanarchy1111 1 year ago
@fu3ar25
That voluntarization of government helped everyone in New Zealand. You should be thanking Gibbs for the relatively high quality of life enjoyed here today. I suggest you go look up public choice economics and microeconomics. Or consult the index of economic freedom and see what more economic freedom does for people.
asdfgasdfasdful 1 year ago
@asdfgasdfasdful are you retarded? thanking him and his National buddies? are you talking about ecomonics or Rodgernomics? "high quality of life enjoyed here" yeah only for the rich you fucking ignorant little cunt..this generation made there money off the government baby boomers now todays generation cant even buy a house..oh but at least we have this Art to look at
fu3ar25 1 year ago
@fu3ar25
You're making no arguments whatsoever. I suggest you consult the actual economic data on the increase in real compensation in NZ and the correlation between the well-being of the poorest 10% and economic freedom, and comparative quality of life for the poorest 10% in NZ vs. the rest of the world.
Things can always be better, and unfortunately government still grows. The more we maximise voluntary human interaction and minimise the coercion of the state, the better off we all are.
asdfgasdfasdful 1 year ago
oh god damn ... we have another rupert murdoch coming up. there goes the last nice country to the cancer of republicanism. if his vision takes root, new zealand will into a decimated hellhole just like everywhere else capitalism has taken hold. capitalism is like AIDS ... once it touches you, you got it, it will kill you, and it is utterly incurable ...
paragshah2112 1 year ago
@paragshah2112 what's so wrong with capitalism??? Its just a label for voluntary human social interaction. I do have a problem however with an Elite group of overlords telling, rather FORCING PEOPLE as to how to live their lives. This elite force becomes all the more sinister once it's given the monopoly of PRINTING MONEY!!! True Capitalism on a macro economic scale doesn't exist anywhere on the planet today because CENTRAL BANKS dominate the planet with their paper money. Thus the RAT RACE!
joeymackaroni 1 year ago
@joeymackaroni the problem with capitalism is that it is a bloodsport. and in its purest form it is predatory. it destroys everything it touches and consolidates all the wealth and power into a few hands. its interests are vile and insidious, and it is amoral at its very root. a pure capitalism pretty much a fiefdom with just the king on top and the rest are nothing more than human cattle. democratic socialism is the only form of govt that protects and looks after its citizens.
paragshah2112 1 year ago
@paragshah2112 look, do people go the war with other people?... No! GOVERNMENTS go to war with other GOVERNMENTS.
now here's the part you don't learn in school. WHO FUNDS ALL WARS(.) ? ?
ANSWER---> CENTRAL BANKS
HOW?
by counterfeiting pieces of paper with numbers on them so that some one else can work really hard just to earn a few of them. THATS NOT CAPITALISM.
In a real free market the money will be determined by the voluntary action of individuals. GOLD seams naturally suited for money
joeymackaroni 1 year ago
@joeymackaroni by going to the gold standard we run into the problems of limited wealth. it sucks because wealth becomes extraordinarily hard to accumulate. the central bank creating more currency that still holds its value but for a small technical decrease is a good way to get everyone wealthier, but the god damn slimeball bank isnt supposed to call the bonds in! they do that when they feel like pulling the rug out from under our feet. the central bank works only when it is govt owned.
paragshah2112 1 year ago
very nice !
TristanTheSaint 1 year ago
must be nice to have money to pay a artist to design you a wall that looks like a hair dried on the wall of a shower.
hey pal let me know next time you want to pay big bucks for squiggly lines, im your man
lejink 1 year ago
he must be sick rich...
raven1234 1 year ago
i would have had respect for him/it if it were a labor of love. you know those things whose greatest investment is time not money. he didn't even build/design them, wth? i don't know anything about that guy but i see no grace in what is there, it seems very insincere
NyRamsey 1 year ago
@2010BusinessWoman If you have ever decorated then you might understand. When a person walks into a room they sometimes have an opinion of it. Things could look too dark, drab, or out of date. This is the eye of an artist. The art is fixing it, making what you see look the best it can. There are also many other reasons for art, but maybe you can understand this way.
tyniehawk 1 year ago
This man is an inspiration for his art, but more for his profoundly humanist philosophy. It's a misnomer to label him "conservative." He is a clear and unambiguous libertarian, the only sustainable and logically coherent political position to have.
asdfgasdfasdful 1 year ago 2
@asdfgasdfasdful Gibbs knows very little about art, he is only a patron of established artists that present him with a good investment. To exploit as he wishes.
loveandanarchy1111 1 year ago
@loveandanarchy1111
Art is subjective. One does not need to know anything about what you or I consider "art" to "know about art." And he is not "exploiting" anything, and like everyone should be free to do as he wishes.
asdfgasdfasdful 1 year ago
As an artist I find his motives questionable. For me he represents a nightmare art patron. Someone who has no desire to support emerging artists, but sees art as an investment. An artist very rarely has any say as to who purchases there art and what they use it for. He is using others creative voice to make a private museum that in part helps to support his political views, exploitation of others visions for sure.
loveandanarchy1111 1 year ago
@asdfgasdfasdful I am sick of people thinking they can just write a fat check then they have the right do what ever THEY want. Not everyone is an artist or knows about it, but a big part of art is inspiring critical thought. We are not free to do as we wish just because we bought a gun or a car, or even a can of spray paint has rules as to how it should be thrown away.... Art has it's own responsibilities...... and in this case I object to the use.
loveandanarchy1111 1 year ago
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Hoplite87 1 year ago
@asdfgasdfasdful what nonsense! Everybody is a individual but you live with others as well thats the why governments from a historical point of view is what organizes society, if you wish to be totally free you and Gibbs can go to live in the Sahara or in the Borneo jungle as cavemen where you pay no taxes no rules exist or abide to none. States are just neutral it depends whos in charge that makes them good or bad. His got it completely wrong, what enforces private property is the law
Hoplite87 1 year ago
@Hoplite87
1. Governments have never been formed that way, factually speaking. I suggest you look up Cambridge archeologist Norman Yoffee's "Myths of the Archaic State." Or search youtube for "fringeelements rise of civilization" for a simple historical explanation of the origin of the state.
2. Gibbs is a minarchist, not 100% against government. However you do not need the state for property rights or law. I suggest economist Bruce Benson's "The Enterprise of Law: Justice without the State."
asdfgasdfasdful 1 year ago
@asdfgasdfasdful Look suggesting books is not a proof of anything, the fact remains that through out history the civilizations that overcame the others had more sophisticated states witch enabled them to have better economies, create a currency, improved the security of its people, develop technology, build a army, expand. Those peoples that didn't, they just disappeared as such. Its as simple as that.
Hoplite87 1 year ago
@Hoplite87
No, that's not a "fact." You are making assertions with no evidence. I am making assertions and referencing evidence. You are objectively wrong and the ignorance of statists like you is what enables mass poverty, starvation, war, dictatorship, and parasitism that plagues humanity.
asdfgasdfasdful 1 year ago
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Hoplite87 1 year ago
@asdfgasdfasdful No evidence what about history itself !!?? You deny that civilizations like Egypt, Babilon, the lydians, the city states of Greece or the Republic of Rome became what they ware because they had a fairly sophisticated form of government in contrast to there counterparts ?? Conquest and empires are not only why they are remembered also the legacy they left. What legacy nomads and barbarians leave in comparison ??
Hoplite87 1 year ago
@asdfgasdfasdful History is a fact itself. I'm not a "statist" I dont even know what you mean by that. And as interesting as you ideas may be of a none existent government I find it hard to bring it to reality or how can a society organize itself just based on free market principles...You are just farfetched as communists are with a idea of having the state running everything, its a matter of balances, not positives and negatives like everything in life
Hoplite87 1 year ago
@asdfgasdfasdful how an earth can capitalism exist without a state anyway?? States that emit currency (backed of course by central banks). Just imagine the volumes of exchanges of goods, services and information now days, how can it work just by trade like in the old days when people exchanged a donkey for pottery for example??
Those beliefs are just as utopist as the communist idea of the state in control of everything
Hoplite87 1 year ago
@Hoplite87
Currency existed for thousands of years before central banks, and still exists today not provided by central banks. In every case study of free banking in the 19th century, for example, currencies competed. And of course commodities like gold were money and still are. Go look up anything ever written on the history of money.
asdfgasdfasdful 1 year ago
@asdfgasdfasdful Currencies compete even today, whats your point??Yes various forms of currency existed in the past like metals and salt, the problem begins when it comes to certify that that coin or metal is really worth a X amount of capital, plus there limitations as countable units. If we ware in middle east 4000 bc you wish to sell me a cow and I come a long from far with a coin and say that its worth it, how can you tell its so..? You've got it wrong pal, just get real
Hoplite87 1 year ago
I'm from Argentina and for a politician here (no matter how far liberal he may be or right wing) to say that all schools and hospitals should be privatized he would be scrutinized and have is carrier destroyed. Plus saying that the state can't run anything, that its only purpose is to enforce private property and to "facilitate contracts" (lol that sounds so corrupt, he must of facilitated contracts for telecom), why cant he say incentivize business and trade or whatever..??
Hoplite87 1 year ago
@Hoplite87
Why would I care what the average person in Argentina or anywhere else thinks? Most people in the world thought the Earth was flat a few thousand years ago. Most people thought that kings were divinely appointed by God a few hundred years ago. etc.
The government is not magic. It does not create anything that was not there before. The government is a group of individuals with an ideologically subsidized monopoly on proactive physical coercion in an arbitrary territory. That's it.
asdfgasdfasdful 1 year ago 4
Why should I care then what you say?? The concept of communism is much more modern than the concept of capitalism and yet its already proved impossible to work and useless in realty.
Who said its the roll of governments to create things?? Governments are to organize and regulate society. You're definition is rather cynical though I think it applies more for a specific form of government witch is a dictatorship.
Hoplite87 1 year ago
@asdfgasdfasdful Libertanian politics will, at best, lead to an American style democracy where the whole political scene is dominated by corporate lobbying groups.
ziqueez 1 year ago
@ziqueez
New Zealand is already more libertarian than the US (consult the indices of economic freedom). And corporations are government-created and government-subsidized legal fictions.
Care to make any actual logical argument as to what libertarianism will lead to?
asdfgasdfasdful 1 year ago
it's like this world were made particularly for gibbs and gibbs alone. lonely, lonely gibbs and all his pretty things.
for gibb's sake!
stunning pieces in a stunning place, but in the wrong hands. anish kapoor's trumpet is made of toxic materials - pvc?! that's not very pc either...
this is not patronage, it's hoarding.
'RRRROSEBUD!'
ho2cultcha 1 year ago
Fantastic pieces of art!
sleir 1 year ago
Too much money has warped his mind. I am an artist from NZ and find Gibbs to be heartless. How is he thinking he is a better patron of the arts than Castro? When Gibbs takes the artist works presenting them in a private museum that generates money to promote his own conservative and non humanist political agenda. People think because they can write a fat check that makes them an art patron, where his lack of depth and understanding of the subject is shocking. Yuck!
loveandanarchy1111 1 year ago
Whats strikes me is not the fact that this guy is ruining the NZ country side landscape, its the idea that remains in many Anglo countries like US or Australia that Governments should be dismantled, completely privatize a nation's assets, and dissolve market regulations and this is after the financial crises exactly due from that. People like Palin or Gibbs don't know the difference of there elbow from there asses when it comes to international issues, thats when they become dangerous
Hoplite87 1 year ago
wacky art i like it
zythepsarian 1 year ago
Yay my country on journeymanpictures
sporky69 1 year ago