Hillary Clinton was on the front line of the Civil Rights Movement (and supporter of Martin Luther King), when Barack Obama was in grade school in Indonesia..
Hillary Clinton's campaigner manager, Maggie Williams, is a Black woman. Hillary's Chief of staff, Cheryl Mills, is Black. Who managed Barack Obama's campaign.? Who is his Chief of Staff? Who are the people on his inter-circle?
Hillary Clinton was on the front line of the Civil Rights Movement (and supporter of Martin Luther King), when Barack Obama was in grade school in Indonesia..
Hillary Clinton's campaigner manager, Maggie Williams, is a Black woman. Hillary's Chief of staff, Cheryl Mills, is Black. Who managed Barack Obama's campaign.? Who is his Chief of Staff? Who are the people on his inter-circle? Ho
WOW..I hear this man speak and can help tears coming out of my eyes..Dr. Kin, JFK and RFK..Were three man killed because they were people who fought for those who didnt have a voice and wanted to change America..We still have a long wait to go, But im glad we now live in a Better American than it was in the 1960s
Every answer he gives is how "he" will fix a problem -- I do not want a Government to micro manage me or my family. I want less government and more liberty!!!!
GIVE ME LIBERTY Not Government!
These word ring hollow with today's McBama voters...
ask not what your country can do for you - ask what YOU can do for your country. --
Zennie, what you said isnt exactly true. In fact it was LBJ as vice president that took a tough stance for equal rights, which concerned JFK because he wanted to wait until after the '64 election to pursue it. JFK also didnt have a good working relationship with congress, so it is possible that had he lived the civil rights bill wouldnt have been passed in his term. It took LBJ and his wheeling and dealing to get the bills passed, and he did this before the election.
I enjoy your articulate argument.I do that Ms. Clinton, was trying to point out the role of President's office. She realize that she does not have ability to play the role of Dr. King, but she can play the role of LBJ. This role is a history making President. I think that Ms. Clinton understands how important Dr Kings role to Black People and America, but LBJ,(the Pres Office) also played a role in changing the Lives of Black People and America.I hope Obama wins, butClinton is also Qualfied
no, you don't remember president Reagan asking "the Germans" to tear down the Berlin wall. He insisted, "Mr. Gorbachev (the Soviet premier), tear down this wall!!".
great analogy! I did'nt understand the mess but thanks for clearing it up. You, Zennie-give her the benefit, but now as she continues..it's obvious that there is definitely a Failure to Communicate, an
unwillingness to give a f..k on her part. If you don't like her apology it's like- HA! She is out of touch with 'real' grassroot people. It has become obvious she does'nt care to rebuild this economy, she would've started at the roots, but then again shes not alone, ie., Bill, trolls,,,
maybe we should stop loving obama and looking at the real facts of this guy! I didn't know that being african american gives you more swing on negatives and conn actions! tony rezko and wright and farrakan and so many others is in relation to obamas poor judgement! hillary clinton was one to help and stand up for african americans! So please shut the hell up! What has obama done for minorites asshole!
the clintons have not exercised poor judgement ? nafta ? call it" free trade " sounds good ! therefore it will be good for the people. yeah , the clintons are champions of the little guy . not poor judgment , if you are furthering your own self interests . as for the minorities obama did not cut off the black welfare mothers ( you know the ones that were bankrupting the country ).
Hillary's entire MLK speech was just a hypocritical farce to suck up to black voters while secretly cursing "that damn nigger". If she really wanted to fulfill MLK's dreams she would have dropped out of the race and endorsed Obama already.
hey you should check out this documentary called 'loose change' on you tube also you should check another documentary by a guy called 'john todd' and 'bohemiem grove pass the word around loose change is about 911
"Direct action is not a substitute for work in the courts and the halls of government. Bringing about passage of a new and broad law by a city council, state legislature, or the Congress, or pleading cases before the courts of the land, does not eliminate the necessity for bringing about the mass dramatization of injustice in front of a city hall.
Indeed, direct action and legal action complement one another. When skillfully employed, each becomes more effective."
I agree totally...I just listened to an interview here on Youtube when Dr. King was speaking almost your exact words....about direct action when the courts and government move too slowly or get caught up in legislation and apathetic behavior....
Direct action does alot to "motivate" those in power to act....and listen to the people.
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Balack Obama hahaha. Thank goodness there are still more rednecks than black folk...and most of the blacks cant vote because they are convicted felons.
There were Blacks who fought on both sides in the civil war. Further...the civil war was over economics...not freedom..The tide did not turn in favor of the north until they were wise enough to "Let" Blacks fight along side whites. Get your facts straight. You see things like Jim Crow laws came after the civil war.. freedom without dignity is not freedom at all. The combination of movements...civil rights. those against vietnam war...Nation of Islam....all had a part in the changes that occurred
I dont believe she was diminishing MLK's work..I more so think that she was trying NOT agree that messages of hopes and dreams work and move the masses (which of course is Obama's campaign basis). So instead of agreeing she focused on the idea that a dream is just a dream until someone takes action therefore giving credit to LBJ and not those who died for the cause such as MLK. GREAT SAVE HILLARY! Yeah! Hillary for 08.
I disagree with you..If all you said is what she "meant"..then why did "SHE" not say all that "YOU" just said. All the metaphoric BS and "mis-spoken" statements are confusing to me..I'm the average American..I have to work for a living and don't have time "contemplate" on what the candidate "meant" to say...Speak clearly..speak factual..and don't patronize me like I'm an idiot..is what I have to say to Mrs. clinton. I'm not stupid..I can see when I'm being bull-shitted
This is a wonderfully articulated rebuttal. I am trying to overlook the nasty, racist comments that I am seeing while typing this. This man beautifully articulated his perspective, yet we have some here spewing anti-black comments. It's easy to do so anonymously. How fast we are reminded that this country remains polarized. AmeriKKKa.
You make a salient point about what MLK achieved. He knew his message was going to cost him his life. Obviously he was vindicated for his sacrifice. However, why should hillary apologize? She demonstrated her true character, which is to say she will do ANYTHING for political gain. People should just take notice and say: OK now we know the true content of her character. Do we really want this person to become president? My response is an emphatic NO.
this was a great dose of history, LBJ wouldn't have done this on his own. great history lesson Hillary needs to stop talking and listen to what she is saying we do know our history.
Obama and Hillary are in the "CFR". Educate yourself and your kids because they are planning to use them for the NEW WORLD ORDER. Wake up!!! LOL..... OBAMA is related to DICK CHENEY..YOU TRUST THAT GUY.
Your a smart guy... look past OBAMA's skin color and see who his friends really are.. not you sadly.
The Civil Rights Movement TAUGHT AMERICA how to ORGANIZE & get RESULTS! LBJ had NOTHING 2 do with that! Yt folks always trying to steal glory..just sad!
hey, as a white man, i am offended by the idea that other white people (and thier thoughts) are lumped together with that bitch, no, all M.L.K., fuck L.B.J.
Well thank you for clearing that up! Good 2 know that not all YT PEOPLE believe that LBJ was more fundamental in the CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT than those who were bit by dogs, sprayed with fire hoses, beat down to the yt meat, etc...hillary is a BITCH and her husband is a THIEF!
what exactly do blacks want? i mean seriously? you already have special privileges not afforded ANY OTHER GROUP!
SAT's........the test to get into college. why is there a special low number for blacks and no other group? quit dropping out of school, quit acting like gangsta thugs, quit talking like you are 9! maybe we can all be equal? what a concept!
Hillary specks of civil rights experiecne but what people need to understand is that blacks has been though this promise before from other presidents we need more than just heath care or the end of war etc but better leadership and to me she is far from what america needs right now mlk died to see equailty for blacks as well as freedom and the civil right bill sign by lydon johnson was just a little sigh of relief from the bullshit blacks put up with hillary u were wrong period!!
You need a president to sign off on an act to become law. Is Martin Luther King a legislation? MLK's dreams were real and what Hillary meant for those who are not ignant and actually heard the whole thing was that Vice president Lynden B. Johnson signed an act that struck congress that change was really going to happen and not only talk. (This act got congress's attention!!)That was all she meant!!Yes Mlk did the work but whats gonna happen if it ain't law dumb asses?
yes,but Hillary was underestimating MLK. She evidently knows little about the Civil Rights Era. MLK did more than just dream and speak eloquently about it;he and others developed and executed an ingenious action plan and strategy so these dreams could be realized.LBJ didn't want to sign Civil Right legislation into law,but he was forced to due to MLK and other Civil Right leader's brinksmanship. Hell,Hoover said that the Civil Rights movement was this nation's second Civil War".
Zennie. Thanks for your comments. I agree with Hillary's statements (and yours too). President Johnson was the one who implemented the civil rights changes. I can also remember the early 70s. I was in Saigon at the time. There were two armies there, a black army and a white army. These two groups did not socialize or even hardly talk to each other. As a foreigner there, I found this very odd. I personally tended to talk with the black guys, as they were more on my wavelength.
I don't get what the problem is. Fact: MLK was probably the greatest civil rights leaders of all time. He inspired people to take a stand against bigotry and segregation. Fact: Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 legally ending segregation, the Voting Rights Act of 1965 allowing everyone to vote, and many more. LBJ did more for civil rights than any other president. People need to stop making everything a racial issue and look at what an individual has achieved regardless of race.
Youre a smart dude Zennie62. Its too bad youre a democrat, now i know that because youre smart, youre not gonna vote for Obama just because hes black. Yes, youre right, Obama is inspirational but out of all the debates that ive seen him in, i still dont know what he stands for, usually hes busy "COMPETING" against others. All i know is that im voting Ron Paul. RON PAUL for a better america, not just for us but for future generations to come. Do whats right, not just whats popular. GLHF&GODSPEED
I don't get why it would have to do with not experiencing the oppression that blacks did. To me, what Clinton said was rather shallow and self-serving, but not false and certainly not belittling. Now, if she had said that what LBJ did was MORE important than King's lifetime of effort, that would be COMLPETELY different. But that isn't what she said at all. (BTW, I don't support her and don't trust her.)
I'm not trying to be combative, I just wish I understood where you're coming from.
I think the problem with the statement is that it was a calculated dig at Obama through MLK on MLK day. Obama like King is an inspirational leader and feels through words/ideas things can get done. Hilary has always maintained this message was offering falsehope to others. That she is doer and can get things done. Given this statement it can be implied that LBJ did more to get the legislation passed, thus belittling KING and his accomplishments.
Do people forget that Obama is a politician just like Clinton? He's not just an inspirational speaker. Her comment was belittling because she seemed to dismiss the fact that Obama is a politician and will be able to do what LBJ did.
I understand your point and it wasn't missed. One could argue that Obama has more legislative experience than Clinton if you combine the state and federal experience. I was just addressing or bringing to light how it was belittling to the efforts of civil rights leaders like MLK on MLK day.
I see your point, but I still disagree that any meaning should be read into her remarks. They were only seized on, I believe, because there are people eternally crouched like tigers waiting to spring upon even the slightest suggestion of racial strife. Some of these people are legitimately scarred, others are disingenuous, with ill intent. Whichever the case, they EXPECT racial discord, so they see it everywhere even when it isn't there. So it becomes a destructive self-fulfiling prophecy.
Our country's racial scars have been sloppily Band-Aided over, and the damn Band-Aid keeps slipping off. This is the fault of people, black and white, who either can't let go of the past or cannot embrace the future.
Black and white Americans have been trapped in the "roles" expected of them on the national stage for 30 years, and it's gotten us all nowhere. Both groups have irrational fears that need to be dealt with head-on, but aren't, and I'm just tired of the stalemate.
I agree. Embracing the future, and uniting races seem politically incorrect for many people. All these racial interest groups should slowly be dispersed because it promotes social segregation.
but anyway, FUCK OBAMA. he's an MLK-wannabe. i want a president, not a damn spiritual guru. i hate his damn empty speeches. and when it comes to debates, when we're actually talking about issues, the man can't speak straight, with a lot of his ummmmms, ummms. he sounds RETARDED, seriously.
that's because he thinks debates are pointless; he'd rather listen to everyone's ideas and then integrate them into a cohesive idea. This is essentially what he did as President of the Harvard Law Review and throughout his life.Read up on his time in Harvard Law school.
In this time of partisianship and political polarization,I think we need someone who is talented at unifying people and ideas so we can move forward as nation and a global community.I'm tired of the same old style of politics.
I'm glad you see my (<--?) point. I feel like if you truly saw my point, though, you would see that it is reasonable for individuals to be offended by her remarks, and, thus, meaning should be read into her remarks. Perhaps the person who is doing the band-aiding is the person who can't see her own inability to embrace the future - one that sees beyond race - because if she could, she would NEVER had made this ridiculous statement. The ONLY visible reason she is likening Obama to MLK is skin
and I say that "the ONLY visible reason she is likening Obama to MLK is skin" because that is the only thing that I see they have in common. Obama is doing much for his community, but he's not solely fighting for black rights, he's not a reverend, he's a POLITICIAN, just like Hillary. I think if anything, her comment was extremely belittling and came from an ignorant place. But I'm not mad at her for it - many people don't realize their prejudices - i'm sure i often don't.
Just came across a quote by the erstwhile minister himself, which does strongly suggest that he would have objected to Clinton's words. Go to thismodernworld dot com and scroll down a bit.
This certainly does put things in another perspective (perhaps the only legit one, since it's straight from the horse' mouth). But the labeling by some of Clinton's words as "racist" is still hyperbole. That word shouldn't be tossed around like that--people should save it and let it gather strength.
I absolutely agree - notice how I never called her comments racist. I know that racism is the law of the land that justified the brutal murder of Emmit Till; racism is not evident in what Hilary Clinton said - only ignorance of her own prejudices. I think we both agree and come from different viewpoints. All I hope is that we we can arrive at the same conclusion from differing perspectives by seriously considering each other and not dismissing one another. I feel like we have. Do you?
BOTH HILARY AND OBAMA WOULD BE CENTRE-RIGHT IN ANY OTHER DEVELOPED DEMOCRACY...its sad how the poor and middle classes of the United States must keep getting stepped on in order to fulfill the way their neo-fascist economy works.
THE ONLY "OK" CHOICE WOULD BE 'mike gravel' BUT GIVEN HIS CHANCES OF WINNING, I WOULD FAVOR OBAMA, JUST BECAUSE HE IS THE LEAST OF THE TWO EVILS.
Gravel's still in?? I thought he dropped out a while ago.
I would have voted for a Gravel/Kucinich ticket with my heart soaring. As it stands, I'm going to have to choose between a mildly left-of-center greenhorn and an lobbyist-ridden, Establishment-with-a-capital-E power player. Whoopee.
I wish Kucinich had hung in there til Super Tuesday. It would have been nice to vote for someone because I actually WANTED to vote for that person.
Yes and it will be about change on Super Tuesday next week when Hillary Clinton wins big and takes a commanding lead to be the first woman president of the United States!
Oh and BTW, your time here on this web site would be better served posting positive messages about the candidate of your choice! The 2008 campaign is NOT about race, but rather "change."
Senator Clinton's remarks were correct. I am older than you & have a different memory of the cival rights uprising. It did take Dr. King & his followers many marches, sit ins & jailings to get the needed attention. It still took the power of a President to get the laws passed to bring on that change. I credit Dr. King for starting the initiative which resulted in change. We should celebrate our democracy and stand together as proud Americans.
I will tell you the real mistake was we black ppls playin the race card in So. Carolina. there goin to be a backlash on super tueday 2/5 and the white folks goin to put Hillary over the top. I see it comin for real!
this white woman in texas is going to be madder than hell if it happens. not all white folks are for white candidates. i spport obama all the way. i live in a white, republican area of texas and everyone supports ron paul here. it scares the shit out of me. we are surrounded by racist. my family also supports obama. hillary is hiding behind her man.
Thanks, zennie62, for your wonderful and insightful post. I especially appreciated that you fairly pointed out that Hillary Clinton was right "to a degree" regarding LBJ's role in Dr. Martin Luther King's civil rights movement. That was the one question I had in my head and you answered it. So thanks for the education.
I would only ask that you please reedit your video so that Dr. King's speech is in synch in order for viewers to fully appreciate your entire video. Thanks.
I'm a Republican (Paul supporter to clarify, though I was Republican before he stepped up to bat). And I've been cheering Obama on every step of the way. I hope we go against a man of integrity and truth this November. Not the 'mythical first black president' and his witch.
Hillary has a Dream too. For you to Vote for her or stay home. She only cares about one thing. Getting that fat ass of hers back in the White House no matter what it takes. Anything.
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed on July 2nd (I think they should of waited until the 4th of July.) 18 Southern Democratic U.S. Senators filibustering this bill. The Republican Congress pressured President Johnson to sign it. That Son-of-a-Bitch fought them every step of the way. Everyone needs to learn your History. The Clinton's are more like Johnson. They use the Black's every time they can.
If Osama's followers are going around attacking libs like Hitlerly for being too racist, what do they think about the vast majority of American whites? Most are much less liberal. In any public opinion poll, Reagan is voted the best president in history. Most Americans are Republicans. Republicans are a shoe-in in '08.
your an obvious hateful idiot. are you calling them names because they are democrats or because they are a black man and an woman. i think it's clear. if you represent republicans we see they are racist. the hate will continue if the republicans win.
zennie62: You say he wasn't able to see the change. The change he intended didn't materialize at all. It may be better in some ways, but it is worse overall for everyone. The Democrat Party has subverted, diverted and perverted the movement until no one understands equality anymore. The "content of their character" does not include homosexual privileges as Civil Rights. He would have considered homosexuals as persons of poor character.
Huckabee is frankly terrifying. He's incredibly ignorant about all the wrong things. He's an enthusiastic death penalty supporter (how can you be an ENTHUSIASTIC death penalty supporter?), he supports a world war against Muslims, and he wraps it all up in a cute, cuddly package. He also believes in the inerrant truth of the bible. Unlike, for example, the Pope.
very accurate, Clinton is trying to play the race card to show to white americans that Obama just a black man. well, I hope she knows that we white do not think like that. I might add Thank you to MLK work after all. nice video
Obama is the one who played the race card he is self defeating his and MLK's dream, now Hillary was wrong about it taking a president to make His dream a reality, I've posted so, but her statement isn't racial, just ignorant
YOu are a clown you have no substance. You voted for Bush or Gore you can certainly vote for Obama. Your childish Osama reference is only funny the simple and shallow... I think most of us are on the intelligent side while you the SIMPLE-TON.
Applause, I feel honored as a Hispanic American to know that the hard work and sacrifices of this man has not only opened doors for the African American people but for all of the minorities that have lived in this country.I hope that the day never comes when we take this man's actions and powerful message for granted. Long live his message and his work. Thank you Mr. King.- Obama for change,unity,and inspiration. lets go!!!!
good luck buddy!! just to let you know, you're outnumbered by far. Republicans?? You have to be kidding, you must not know what its like to be poor. You don't have a clue.
black enough" you all need to read the 'willie lynching laws'put in place by slave owners to seperate blacks, and it is still working till this day in comments like "is he black enough"
Hilarity Clinton was grossly overrating LBJ in the same way you are overrating MLK. He was a known and documented member of at least 56 communist fronts and got his funding and orders from a jewish ambulance chaser for the American SNIVEL Liberties Union, Stanley Levison. As highly as you may hold him in your esteem...and SOME of the things he said were dead on, they would have had to be...but he was nothing more than a black Elmer Gantry and throwaway tool for jewish communists.
So it's a "fact" that MLK's dream began to be realized when LBJ signed the CRA? One could argue that MLK's dream began to be realized when the court's ruled segregation as unconstitutional in 1956. I'd argue that his dream began to be realized when the oppressed citizens of Montgomery stood up to their oppressors and walked to and from work, month after month. But could LBJ's legislation, signed 8 years later, be considered the beginning? Not a chance.
All she said was MLK's "Dream" could not have been at least partially realised without a president that had the "balls" to sign the civil rights act into law. She is saying that she would have and has the courage to do something along those same lines. Hence all that great president garbage, man what is with you its like in all of your videos you apply your preconcieved notions that everyone wants to hurt and disrespect you and yours. You seem like a victim of fear mongering
I agree...because Kennedy did not even want to sign the civil rights not because he was racist but because he was afraid it would hurt his um appeal to people...so LBJ signed it because Kennedy didn't have the balls to do it so right on!
on another note I don't know where Hilliary was going with what she said I don't have an opinion I will have to watch it again
I agree and how could they know, being rich affluently white, I don't like candidates using Dr King to try to get elected, why can't they run on their own merits? JFK and Ron Regan also get used, and not one of them are like these icons that they use!
Everyone has a right to see into a candidate what they want to, you see a nepotistic dynasty with Hillary, others see a closet Muslim and worry is there terrorists in that closet? but what good does those characterizations do but add to the negative campaigning that mars this presidential race? independently yours
What is tragic isn't what Hillary said was twisted into a racial issue which helps set back Dr. Kings dream, but that his dream is being misunderstood, I disagree that when LBJ signed into law the Civil Rights Act is when Dr. Kings dream was realized. you see Dr. King wasn't talking about a piece of legislation, he was talking about our hearts, when we in our hearts can judge one another by the content of our hearts and not the color of our skin, that is when Dr. Kings dream will be realized.
I'm a Ron Paul supporter. I appreciate your views and the points you've made. On Monday, every American should pause in solemn and sober remembrance of the people who fought on our home turf for the rights and lives of their neighbors, strangers and people of all walks of life.
You and I may not agree on who the best person for the job is, but we certainly both understand the value of life and liberty.
Deeptoad; I am not for Ron Paul, but I agree with your statement:every American should pause in solemn and sober remembrance of the people who fought on our home turf for the rights and lives of their neighbors, strangers and people of all walks of life.
How did she say that with a straight face. Why would she equate herself with Johnson & Obama with King. I mean, not smart. Doesn't she run these arguments by her advisors? Wow.
I think that anyone who is still doubting that it was Obama who was using the race card should be directed to the Las Vegas debate a couple of days ago. Obama, with evidence right before him, admitted that he was the one who did. He was completely "accountable" for the whole race problem. I entreat all of you who really don't believe that Obama did it, to watch the recent Nevada debate.
Great Video, well put together and im loving the "facts" that you presented. H. Clinton really exsposed herself and her disrespect to MLK, she made it sound like that all of those inspiring speeches by MLK and the struggle he went through had no power and change to the Government until, the current president made actions...The Clintons are really exsposing their real sour insides...to me thir a joke*
This was an excellent video. You took things in a balanced, cognitive manner, and helped me get a clear grasp of the issue - without vilifying her, you helped up see where Clinton messed up. And then you showed us that important speech, which I am ashamed to say I never got to seeing on my own. Well done.
Look Paul voted to go after Osama and Al Qaeda but not to go into Iraq for WMD's that didn't exist. Paul is the only one who would follow the constitution. Anyone who says's that the current foreign policy over the last 50 years has not perpetuated the hate for America in the Middle East just doesn't really know history. How would American's feel if Russia or China where supplying arms to the Iraqi insurgence and Al Qaeda??
It's going to be interesting to watch Hillary backtrack when someone actually realizes that Democrats are not in any way nor have ever been 'Civil Rights' and checks voting records and Political affiliation of the Confederacy or the Union and what has not changed about both Parties.
She is lying. Hillary Clinton tells repeated lies. I can say it honestly now so I am going to point out her lies constantly. History is important because it helps you see the present. Democrats are the shame of the past and the present. Leave it to Hillary to destroy the Democrat Party...
Kennedy did not intend to keep his promise to sponsor a bill when elected. He actually had voted 'no' when he was a Senator in 1957. Eisenhower wrote the Civil Rights act of 1957. Kennedy only acted when he saw support for Democrats in the mid term was low. He copied Eisenhowers bill, watered it down, and was assassinated when it reached the House. Hillary lies about all of these facts.
This is true, Goldwater was opposed to the civil rights act of 1964, because of it's involvement in state politics and private business. However he was the canidate who as a senetor supported the civil rights act of 1957, 1960 and would later support the civil rights act of 1968.
now everyone can say that "RACE" is not a factor in this election but it is I HONESTLY HATE to admitt it but its true, I mean Hillary wasnt down-talking on what MLK went through or what he stood for but is only stating the facts YES MLK DID strive for EQUAL rights Yes we give all the credit he deserves BUT it was LBJ that made it happen Obama has the same or more fault for the comment and contraversy made about MLK
No, the point is Democrats did not help Martin Luther King. That's what Senator Clinton is lying about. She is asserting aggressively, a lie that Lyndon Johnson deserved any credit at all and that the Republican President, who wrote those bills, did not. That is an outrage! Clinton is LYING.
Zennie - I can see your point about Clinton but what I fail to understand is Obama's stance on Iraq and soon to be possibly Iran. MLK wanted to end the war in Vietnam and he didn't agree with the war and I truly believe if he was president today your country would not be in Iraq. Obama wants to continue the war against Al Qaeda and I believe that will mean staying in Iraq. Ron Paul is a better candidate for MLK's message so we all may be "Free at Last"
Johnson could not stop the bill, and made a comment when he signed about handing the south to the Republicans for a generation. Dirksen had to break a democrat filibuster to get the 1964 bill through to him to be signed. LBJ could not veto.
Hillary is outright lying. The President before Kennedy wrote those bills with help from Everitt Dirksen. Johnson did not pass those bills, they probably assassinated Kennedy in an attempt to sabotage it because the bill was in the House when Kennedy was shot. Kennedy voted no on Eisenhower's first bill in 1957 when he was a Senator.
mlk is the bomb he let all racs come together blaks white spanish native american whoo whoo. im black and i want both hillary and barak to win. dont just vote for barak because hes black. nonononon. i think hillary and arak would make a good future. whoo whoo
I did. You admit Hillary was right, but specify only by the smallest degree. How was she wrong? Martin Luthor King was never President, he would have needed someone's help regardless of the colour of the President.
"Our struggle in Selma had brought the whole issue of the right to vote to the attention of the nation," King said. "Selma brought us a voting bill...
On the way back from collecting his Nobel Peace Prize in Oslo, Dr King went to see LBJ at the White House. This is a quote from his autobiography.
"I can't get a voting rights bill through in this session of Congress." He said, "Now, there's some other bills that I have here that I want to get through in my Great Society program, and I think in the long run they'll help Negroes more, as much as a voting rights bill."
I left simply saying, "Well, we'll just have to do the best that we can."
The President said nothing could be done. But we started a movement.
Three months later, in Selma, Alabama, on what became known as Bloody Sunday, police beat peaceful protesters on a bridge, and days afterward Lyndon Johnson made a speech to a joint session of Congress that Martin Luther King called "one of the most eloquent, unequivocal, and passionate pleas for human rights ever made by a President of the United States."
Well, I don't take any personal offence though I suspect MLK would. REgardless it's stupid to keep arguing different political persuations. Its all opinion based and therefore neither right nor wrong.
I really do doubt it. MLK and LBJ both played important roles in different means. They both had a great deal of respect for one another, and I doubt that he would get offended by HRC praising LBJ for his efforts.
You take offence by Clinton saying 'LBJ realized Martin Luthor King's dream.' You provide no argument, but just say it's wrong. By being President and making it law, and making sure Martin Luthor King's actions weren't in vain, LBJ enacted King's "Dream." Martin Luthor King was the substance, LBJ was the procedure.
I had to listen to it about 20 times... but I didn't hear any racist remarks?!?!?!
Can someone help me?!
I don't see anything racist about this. She said it took LBJ to finally get something through legislation...indicating the importance of presidency and how people need to work together.
This is so typical way of America, certain 'groups' always try to add race to something that isn't there.
I'm so sick of this shit. If you want respect, earn it.
jtfeire, you are right, public opinion had an enormous hand in the civil right bill being passed. This furthers the idea that public opinion plays an enormous role in what our government does, and it is not the president's role to take credit for what the public wanted.
Geothink, you seem to be missing the point here. You fail to see what Clinton's comment says about her character. In her quote, clinton emphasizes that it is the president who is responsible for change in this country, however it took 250,000 person rally at the doorstep of the federal government to pressure the them enough to finally pass the civil rights bill.
Geothink1, comprehend that pride and tradition has gotten in the way of your reasoning, you analyze what society tells you. To be a fair and free thinking person, analyze what is actually happenening, this will be hard for you to understand, but you are on the exact same level as the guy in the video. He talks about racism he promotes it among his race. You talk about people using racism, as an excuse and they continue to use it!!!
Additionally Hillary is a new person every few weeks, and that day while showcasing her "belief" in action she implied that it is the president's prerogative to decide the fate of our country, not that of the people. If you have read the constitution you will be familiar with the idea that we the people, hold the charge of designing and enacting laws.
Geothink, you seem to be missing the point here. You fail to see what Clinton's comment says about her character. In her quote, clinton emphasizes that it is the president who is responsible for change in this country, however it took 250,000 person rally at the doorstep of the federal government to pressure the them enough to finally pass the civil rights bill.
Zamboni, if everybody had just crossed their arms America would still be living in segregation. I think we can all agree on that. But 250,000 people don't change anything on their own. They had the majority of public opinion (i.e. voters) supporting them, tired of racism. Do you know how many years of marches and even riots it took for the Apartheid to end in South Africa? Mandela spent 27 years in prison!
King and his supporters were the only ones who really risked their lives out there for a cause and the outcome would have been terrible for them if the goal hadn't been achieved. But let us not forget that there were politicians, regardless of their colour, who had the intelligence to realise that things had to change. Though I'm not American, I wish Martin Luther could still be with us to be the 1st African American president.
Geothink, you seem to be missing the point here. You fail to see what Clinton's comment says about her character. In her quote, clinton emphasizes that it is the president who is responsible for change in this country, however it took 250,000 person rally at the doorstep of the federal government to pressure the them enough to finally pass the civil rights bill.
"You fail to see what Clinton's comment says about her character...Clinton emphasizes that it is the president who is responsible for change in this country, however it took 250,000 person rally at the doorstep of the government to pressure them enough."
I think you're reading WAY too much into her rather shallow remark. I don't trust her one bit, but if you take her words to mean that she dismisses the power of group efforts, that speaks more of your preconceptions than about Clinton.
jtfreire - ur wishful thinking. but she did diminish the struggle by claiming a white man was responsible for the catalyst of the civil rights movement.
Clinto didn't diminuish King's struggle! She just said that he would have just failed if the political power didn't embrace such cause (either that or the people successfully would have to rebel against the establishment).
Exactly, but like always, African Americans were going to think that was racial... Why do you keep belittleing yourselfs, just put it in your head, Blacks, Whites, Hispanics, Gays, Straights, ALL THE SAME, nothing is racial unless you wanted to be...Vote HILLARY CLINTON 2008
History shows that Lyndon B. Johnson utilized his experience in parliamentary politics and the power of the presidency in support and passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act!
How can anyone deny what L.B.J did for the black community?
ARichardson29205 2 months ago
Hillary Clinton was on the front line of the Civil Rights Movement (and supporter of Martin Luther King), when Barack Obama was in grade school in Indonesia..
Hillary Clinton's campaigner manager, Maggie Williams, is a Black woman. Hillary's Chief of staff, Cheryl Mills, is Black. Who managed Barack Obama's campaign.? Who is his Chief of Staff? Who are the people on his inter-circle?
KLTLUVRLT 11 months ago
Hillary Clinton was on the front line of the Civil Rights Movement (and supporter of Martin Luther King), when Barack Obama was in grade school in Indonesia..
Hillary Clinton's campaigner manager, Maggie Williams, is a Black woman. Hillary's Chief of staff, Cheryl Mills, is Black. Who managed Barack Obama's campaign.? Who is his Chief of Staff? Who are the people on his inter-circle? Ho
KLTLUVRLT 11 months ago
WOW..I hear this man speak and can help tears coming out of my eyes..Dr. Kin, JFK and RFK..Were three man killed because they were people who fought for those who didnt have a voice and wanted to change America..We still have a long wait to go, But im glad we now live in a Better American than it was in the 1960s
TruthorDare21 2 years ago
Obama has got Nothing on Ron Paul
Every answer he gives is how "he" will fix a problem -- I do not want a Government to micro manage me or my family. I want less government and more liberty!!!!
GIVE ME LIBERTY Not Government!
These word ring hollow with today's McBama voters...
ask not what your country can do for you - ask what YOU can do for your country. --
Patriot4Liberty1776 3 years ago
LBJ is the reason you don,t sit on the back of the bus.
longhornworking 3 years ago
Zennie, what you said isnt exactly true. In fact it was LBJ as vice president that took a tough stance for equal rights, which concerned JFK because he wanted to wait until after the '64 election to pursue it. JFK also didnt have a good working relationship with congress, so it is possible that had he lived the civil rights bill wouldnt have been passed in his term. It took LBJ and his wheeling and dealing to get the bills passed, and he did this before the election.
esb84 3 years ago
I dont see anything remotely racist about what she said, it did take the president to sign MLK's dreams into law, whats wrong with saying that?
esb84 3 years ago
I enjoy your articulate argument.I do that Ms. Clinton, was trying to point out the role of President's office. She realize that she does not have ability to play the role of Dr. King, but she can play the role of LBJ. This role is a history making President. I think that Ms. Clinton understands how important Dr Kings role to Black People and America, but LBJ,(the Pres Office) also played a role in changing the Lives of Black People and America.I hope Obama wins, butClinton is also Qualfied
dbanks1996 3 years ago
no, you don't remember president Reagan asking "the Germans" to tear down the Berlin wall. He insisted, "Mr. Gorbachev (the Soviet premier), tear down this wall!!".
earthshine2k 3 years ago
Booooo!!!
LadiCris 3 years ago
great analogy! I did'nt understand the mess but thanks for clearing it up. You, Zennie-give her the benefit, but now as she continues..it's obvious that there is definitely a Failure to Communicate, an
unwillingness to give a f..k on her part. If you don't like her apology it's like- HA! She is out of touch with 'real' grassroot people. It has become obvious she does'nt care to rebuild this economy, she would've started at the roots, but then again shes not alone, ie., Bill, trolls,,,
rzarbldrnnr22 3 years ago
This video is okay, but you don't look so young. You could pass as being 50 years old.
killstrumpet 3 years ago
Obama 08!
yep, im white!
Diablo112383 3 years ago
maybe we should stop loving obama and looking at the real facts of this guy! I didn't know that being african american gives you more swing on negatives and conn actions! tony rezko and wright and farrakan and so many others is in relation to obamas poor judgement! hillary clinton was one to help and stand up for african americans! So please shut the hell up! What has obama done for minorites asshole!
shouaxx 3 years ago
the clintons have not exercised poor judgement ? nafta ? call it" free trade " sounds good ! therefore it will be good for the people. yeah , the clintons are champions of the little guy . not poor judgment , if you are furthering your own self interests . as for the minorities obama did not cut off the black welfare mothers ( you know the ones that were bankrupting the country ).
paintpot2 3 years ago
Hillary is a god-dam liar. Fake and a Fony
lorettarosa 3 years ago 2
lorettarosa
Hillary is a god-dam liar.
Fake and a Fony
I love your mind! LOL!
cboneofenglewood 3 years ago 2
HILARY IS A GREAT LIER! OLD BITCH!
cocoon100 3 years ago 2
Hillary's entire MLK speech was just a hypocritical farce to suck up to black voters while secretly cursing "that damn nigger". If she really wanted to fulfill MLK's dreams she would have dropped out of the race and endorsed Obama already.
AntiChrist67 3 years ago 5
hey you should check out this documentary called 'loose change' on you tube also you should check another documentary by a guy called 'john todd' and 'bohemiem grove pass the word around loose change is about 911
brendam44 3 years ago
so you are a part of generation x that is what they call it after the baby boomers
brendam44 3 years ago
Her statement was totally dishonest.
ReppaBlicken 3 years ago
"Direct action is not a substitute for work in the courts and the halls of government. Bringing about passage of a new and broad law by a city council, state legislature, or the Congress, or pleading cases before the courts of the land, does not eliminate the necessity for bringing about the mass dramatization of injustice in front of a city hall.
Indeed, direct action and legal action complement one another. When skillfully employed, each becomes more effective."
Martin Luther King, Jr
blubastian 3 years ago
I agree totally...I just listened to an interview here on Youtube when Dr. King was speaking almost your exact words....about direct action when the courts and government move too slowly or get caught up in legislation and apathetic behavior....
Direct action does alot to "motivate" those in power to act....and listen to the people.
cqsr63 3 years ago
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Balack Obama hahaha. Thank goodness there are still more rednecks than black folk...and most of the blacks cant vote because they are convicted felons.
69mrX 3 years ago
You r-tard... red necks wouldn't know who to vote for cuz they're so damn stupid.
KiwiFuel 3 years ago
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Without Malcolm Xess...And WIHTOUT MArtin luther kings... black people would still be slaves.
DanyalRaheem 3 years ago
NO dumb fuck, if it werent for the civil war, abe lincoln and all the WHITE people who fought to free your asses, you would still be slaves.
69mrX 3 years ago
There were Blacks who fought on both sides in the civil war. Further...the civil war was over economics...not freedom..The tide did not turn in favor of the north until they were wise enough to "Let" Blacks fight along side whites. Get your facts straight. You see things like Jim Crow laws came after the civil war.. freedom without dignity is not freedom at all. The combination of movements...civil rights. those against vietnam war...Nation of Islam....all had a part in the changes that occurred
cqsr63 3 years ago
I dont believe she was diminishing MLK's work..I more so think that she was trying NOT agree that messages of hopes and dreams work and move the masses (which of course is Obama's campaign basis). So instead of agreeing she focused on the idea that a dream is just a dream until someone takes action therefore giving credit to LBJ and not those who died for the cause such as MLK. GREAT SAVE HILLARY! Yeah! Hillary for 08.
Tatamulata3 3 years ago
I disagree with you..If all you said is what she "meant"..then why did "SHE" not say all that "YOU" just said. All the metaphoric BS and "mis-spoken" statements are confusing to me..I'm the average American..I have to work for a living and don't have time "contemplate" on what the candidate "meant" to say...Speak clearly..speak factual..and don't patronize me like I'm an idiot..is what I have to say to Mrs. clinton. I'm not stupid..I can see when I'm being bull-shitted
Thanks for reading
cqsr63 3 years ago
we the afro americans will win , we must rule , whites , hispanics ... all races under our shoes ! we win they looooooose..
Can You Dig It Sucka
nah55e18 3 years ago
This is a wonderfully articulated rebuttal. I am trying to overlook the nasty, racist comments that I am seeing while typing this. This man beautifully articulated his perspective, yet we have some here spewing anti-black comments. It's easy to do so anonymously. How fast we are reminded that this country remains polarized. AmeriKKKa.
lilnyc 3 years ago 2
You make a salient point about what MLK achieved. He knew his message was going to cost him his life. Obviously he was vindicated for his sacrifice. However, why should hillary apologize? She demonstrated her true character, which is to say she will do ANYTHING for political gain. People should just take notice and say: OK now we know the true content of her character. Do we really want this person to become president? My response is an emphatic NO.
killstrumpet 3 years ago
this was a great dose of history, LBJ wouldn't have done this on his own. great history lesson Hillary needs to stop talking and listen to what she is saying we do know our history.
lydiawardell 3 years ago
This guy is sensible. Great Video, A++.
chillnova 3 years ago 2
Obama and Hillary are in the "CFR". Educate yourself and your kids because they are planning to use them for the NEW WORLD ORDER. Wake up!!! LOL..... OBAMA is related to DICK CHENEY..YOU TRUST THAT GUY.
Your a smart guy... look past OBAMA's skin color and see who his friends really are.. not you sadly.
ociofilm 3 years ago
The Civil Rights Movement TAUGHT AMERICA how to ORGANIZE & get RESULTS! LBJ had NOTHING 2 do with that! Yt folks always trying to steal glory..just sad!
SoulFlower69 4 years ago
hey, as a white man, i am offended by the idea that other white people (and thier thoughts) are lumped together with that bitch, no, all M.L.K., fuck L.B.J.
IMthepassenger 4 years ago
Well thank you for clearing that up! Good 2 know that not all YT PEOPLE believe that LBJ was more fundamental in the CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT than those who were bit by dogs, sprayed with fire hoses, beat down to the yt meat, etc...hillary is a BITCH and her husband is a THIEF!
SoulFlower69 4 years ago
she meant no respect and you know it. you are playing the race card against hillary who is not racist at all.
obama is classy.i wish some of his supporters were also this way.
azsunrise7 4 years ago
Sensible talk!
485jacq 4 years ago
what exactly do blacks want? i mean seriously? you already have special privileges not afforded ANY OTHER GROUP!
SAT's........the test to get into college. why is there a special low number for blacks and no other group? quit dropping out of school, quit acting like gangsta thugs, quit talking like you are 9! maybe we can all be equal? what a concept!
job quotas are discriminatory. everyone knows it.
muslimaofpoo 4 years ago
you suck black man
elrivalmasdebil 4 years ago
Hillary specks of civil rights experiecne but what people need to understand is that blacks has been though this promise before from other presidents we need more than just heath care or the end of war etc but better leadership and to me she is far from what america needs right now mlk died to see equailty for blacks as well as freedom and the civil right bill sign by lydon johnson was just a little sigh of relief from the bullshit blacks put up with hillary u were wrong period!!
jmet718 4 years ago
You need a president to sign off on an act to become law. Is Martin Luther King a legislation? MLK's dreams were real and what Hillary meant for those who are not ignant and actually heard the whole thing was that Vice president Lynden B. Johnson signed an act that struck congress that change was really going to happen and not only talk. (This act got congress's attention!!)That was all she meant!!Yes Mlk did the work but whats gonna happen if it ain't law dumb asses?
janeausten559 4 years ago 2
yes,but Hillary was underestimating MLK. She evidently knows little about the Civil Rights Era. MLK did more than just dream and speak eloquently about it;he and others developed and executed an ingenious action plan and strategy so these dreams could be realized.LBJ didn't want to sign Civil Right legislation into law,but he was forced to due to MLK and other Civil Right leader's brinksmanship. Hell,Hoover said that the Civil Rights movement was this nation's second Civil War".
IntelInside2020 4 years ago
Zennie. Thanks for your comments. I agree with Hillary's statements (and yours too). President Johnson was the one who implemented the civil rights changes. I can also remember the early 70s. I was in Saigon at the time. There were two armies there, a black army and a white army. These two groups did not socialize or even hardly talk to each other. As a foreigner there, I found this very odd. I personally tended to talk with the black guys, as they were more on my wavelength.
swanningaround 4 years ago
I don't get what the problem is. Fact: MLK was probably the greatest civil rights leaders of all time. He inspired people to take a stand against bigotry and segregation. Fact: Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 legally ending segregation, the Voting Rights Act of 1965 allowing everyone to vote, and many more. LBJ did more for civil rights than any other president. People need to stop making everything a racial issue and look at what an individual has achieved regardless of race.
bus11 4 years ago
Please read my account to see what the problem was.
bronxmini 4 years ago
It was just a boneheaded comment by Hilary. She should apoligize and move on.
bms4lifem3 4 years ago
they voted for the PATRIOT Act, NAFTA ...they f*cked up numerous times
they're both CFR members
Wake up and IMPEACH the crap out of those who lead America in the wrong direction!
Obama doens't even diserve to be compared to Martin Luther King! Obama is all just talk!
RON PAUL 2008 FTW!
J1NX1337 4 years ago
Youre a smart dude Zennie62. Its too bad youre a democrat, now i know that because youre smart, youre not gonna vote for Obama just because hes black. Yes, youre right, Obama is inspirational but out of all the debates that ive seen him in, i still dont know what he stands for, usually hes busy "COMPETING" against others. All i know is that im voting Ron Paul. RON PAUL for a better america, not just for us but for future generations to come. Do whats right, not just whats popular. GLHF&GODSPEED
retrisis 4 years ago
I don't get why it would have to do with not experiencing the oppression that blacks did. To me, what Clinton said was rather shallow and self-serving, but not false and certainly not belittling. Now, if she had said that what LBJ did was MORE important than King's lifetime of effort, that would be COMLPETELY different. But that isn't what she said at all. (BTW, I don't support her and don't trust her.)
I'm not trying to be combative, I just wish I understood where you're coming from.
Marbles471 4 years ago
I think the problem with the statement is that it was a calculated dig at Obama through MLK on MLK day. Obama like King is an inspirational leader and feels through words/ideas things can get done. Hilary has always maintained this message was offering falsehope to others. That she is doer and can get things done. Given this statement it can be implied that LBJ did more to get the legislation passed, thus belittling KING and his accomplishments.
bms4lifem3 4 years ago
Do people forget that Obama is a politician just like Clinton? He's not just an inspirational speaker. Her comment was belittling because she seemed to dismiss the fact that Obama is a politician and will be able to do what LBJ did.
bronxmini 4 years ago 2
I understand your point and it wasn't missed. One could argue that Obama has more legislative experience than Clinton if you combine the state and federal experience. I was just addressing or bringing to light how it was belittling to the efforts of civil rights leaders like MLK on MLK day.
bms4lifem3 4 years ago
I see your point, but I still disagree that any meaning should be read into her remarks. They were only seized on, I believe, because there are people eternally crouched like tigers waiting to spring upon even the slightest suggestion of racial strife. Some of these people are legitimately scarred, others are disingenuous, with ill intent. Whichever the case, they EXPECT racial discord, so they see it everywhere even when it isn't there. So it becomes a destructive self-fulfiling prophecy.
Marbles471 4 years ago
Our country's racial scars have been sloppily Band-Aided over, and the damn Band-Aid keeps slipping off. This is the fault of people, black and white, who either can't let go of the past or cannot embrace the future.
Black and white Americans have been trapped in the "roles" expected of them on the national stage for 30 years, and it's gotten us all nowhere. Both groups have irrational fears that need to be dealt with head-on, but aren't, and I'm just tired of the stalemate.
Marbles471 4 years ago
I agree. Embracing the future, and uniting races seem politically incorrect for many people. All these racial interest groups should slowly be dispersed because it promotes social segregation.
but anyway, FUCK OBAMA. he's an MLK-wannabe. i want a president, not a damn spiritual guru. i hate his damn empty speeches. and when it comes to debates, when we're actually talking about issues, the man can't speak straight, with a lot of his ummmmms, ummms. he sounds RETARDED, seriously.
footballdemocracy 4 years ago
that's because he thinks debates are pointless; he'd rather listen to everyone's ideas and then integrate them into a cohesive idea. This is essentially what he did as President of the Harvard Law Review and throughout his life.Read up on his time in Harvard Law school.
In this time of partisianship and political polarization,I think we need someone who is talented at unifying people and ideas so we can move forward as nation and a global community.I'm tired of the same old style of politics.
IntelInside2020 4 years ago
I'm glad you see my (<--?) point. I feel like if you truly saw my point, though, you would see that it is reasonable for individuals to be offended by her remarks, and, thus, meaning should be read into her remarks. Perhaps the person who is doing the band-aiding is the person who can't see her own inability to embrace the future - one that sees beyond race - because if she could, she would NEVER had made this ridiculous statement. The ONLY visible reason she is likening Obama to MLK is skin
bronxmini 4 years ago
and I say that "the ONLY visible reason she is likening Obama to MLK is skin" because that is the only thing that I see they have in common. Obama is doing much for his community, but he's not solely fighting for black rights, he's not a reverend, he's a POLITICIAN, just like Hillary. I think if anything, her comment was extremely belittling and came from an ignorant place. But I'm not mad at her for it - many people don't realize their prejudices - i'm sure i often don't.
bronxmini 4 years ago
Just came across a quote by the erstwhile minister himself, which does strongly suggest that he would have objected to Clinton's words. Go to thismodernworld dot com and scroll down a bit.
This certainly does put things in another perspective (perhaps the only legit one, since it's straight from the horse' mouth). But the labeling by some of Clinton's words as "racist" is still hyperbole. That word shouldn't be tossed around like that--people should save it and let it gather strength.
Marbles471 4 years ago
I absolutely agree - notice how I never called her comments racist. I know that racism is the law of the land that justified the brutal murder of Emmit Till; racism is not evident in what Hilary Clinton said - only ignorance of her own prejudices. I think we both agree and come from different viewpoints. All I hope is that we we can arrive at the same conclusion from differing perspectives by seriously considering each other and not dismissing one another. I feel like we have. Do you?
bronxmini 4 years ago
Yep. And considering this is YouTube--or as it should be called, Humanitysvilest dot com--so much the better. ;]
Marbles471 4 years ago
I hope my comment above came out as a response to Marbles471...
bronxmini 4 years ago
Sadly what many of you call "AMERICAN DEMOCRACY" is CLEARLY an under-developed and representative PLUTOCRACY.
mmike01 4 years ago
BOTH HILARY AND OBAMA WOULD BE CENTRE-RIGHT IN ANY OTHER DEVELOPED DEMOCRACY...its sad how the poor and middle classes of the United States must keep getting stepped on in order to fulfill the way their neo-fascist economy works.
THE ONLY "OK" CHOICE WOULD BE 'mike gravel' BUT GIVEN HIS CHANCES OF WINNING, I WOULD FAVOR OBAMA, JUST BECAUSE HE IS THE LEAST OF THE TWO EVILS.
mmike01 4 years ago
Gravel's still in?? I thought he dropped out a while ago.
I would have voted for a Gravel/Kucinich ticket with my heart soaring. As it stands, I'm going to have to choose between a mildly left-of-center greenhorn and an lobbyist-ridden, Establishment-with-a-capital-E power player. Whoopee.
I wish Kucinich had hung in there til Super Tuesday. It would have been nice to vote for someone because I actually WANTED to vote for that person.
Marbles471 4 years ago
LOL! How dare you accuse me of not being black!
2GeorgiaGirl 4 years ago
Yes and it will be about change on Super Tuesday next week when Hillary Clinton wins big and takes a commanding lead to be the first woman president of the United States!
eboninupe 4 years ago
Oh and BTW, your time here on this web site would be better served posting positive messages about the candidate of your choice! The 2008 campaign is NOT about race, but rather "change."
2GeorgiaGirl 4 years ago
Senator Clinton's remarks were correct. I am older than you & have a different memory of the cival rights uprising. It did take Dr. King & his followers many marches, sit ins & jailings to get the needed attention. It still took the power of a President to get the laws passed to bring on that change. I credit Dr. King for starting the initiative which resulted in change. We should celebrate our democracy and stand together as proud Americans.
2GeorgiaGirl 4 years ago
I will tell you the real mistake was we black ppls playin the race card in So. Carolina. there goin to be a backlash on super tueday 2/5 and the white folks goin to put Hillary over the top. I see it comin for real!
eboninupe 4 years ago
this white woman in texas is going to be madder than hell if it happens. not all white folks are for white candidates. i spport obama all the way. i live in a white, republican area of texas and everyone supports ron paul here. it scares the shit out of me. we are surrounded by racist. my family also supports obama. hillary is hiding behind her man.
marsyro 4 years ago 2
Thanks, zennie62, for your wonderful and insightful post. I especially appreciated that you fairly pointed out that Hillary Clinton was right "to a degree" regarding LBJ's role in Dr. Martin Luther King's civil rights movement. That was the one question I had in my head and you answered it. So thanks for the education.
I would only ask that you please reedit your video so that Dr. King's speech is in synch in order for viewers to fully appreciate your entire video. Thanks.
perspicaciouscritic 4 years ago
I'm a Republican (Paul supporter to clarify, though I was Republican before he stepped up to bat). And I've been cheering Obama on every step of the way. I hope we go against a man of integrity and truth this November. Not the 'mythical first black president' and his witch.
I've been walking around with a smile all day.
Silvsilvchan 4 years ago
Hillary has a Dream too. For you to Vote for her or stay home. She only cares about one thing. Getting that fat ass of hers back in the White House no matter what it takes. Anything.
VoodooMagicMan 4 years ago
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed on July 2nd (I think they should of waited until the 4th of July.) 18 Southern Democratic U.S. Senators filibustering this bill. The Republican Congress pressured President Johnson to sign it. That Son-of-a-Bitch fought them every step of the way. Everyone needs to learn your History. The Clinton's are more like Johnson. They use the Black's every time they can.
VoodooMagicMan 4 years ago
If Osama's followers are going around attacking libs like Hitlerly for being too racist, what do they think about the vast majority of American whites? Most are much less liberal. In any public opinion poll, Reagan is voted the best president in history. Most Americans are Republicans. Republicans are a shoe-in in '08.
ebonics4everyone 4 years ago
your an obvious hateful idiot. are you calling them names because they are democrats or because they are a black man and an woman. i think it's clear. if you represent republicans we see they are racist. the hate will continue if the republicans win.
marsyro 4 years ago
that post was directed to "Ebonics4everyone"
airfuzz4 4 years ago
Democrat's fascist ideology insists that we consider corrupt character as a matter of civil rights.
ReppaBlicken 4 years ago
zennie62: You say he wasn't able to see the change. The change he intended didn't materialize at all. It may be better in some ways, but it is worse overall for everyone. The Democrat Party has subverted, diverted and perverted the movement until no one understands equality anymore. The "content of their character" does not include homosexual privileges as Civil Rights. He would have considered homosexuals as persons of poor character.
ReppaBlicken 4 years ago
hey. wat do you think of Mike Huckabee? I support him.
jeremiahj13 4 years ago
Huckabee is frankly terrifying. He's incredibly ignorant about all the wrong things. He's an enthusiastic death penalty supporter (how can you be an ENTHUSIASTIC death penalty supporter?), he supports a world war against Muslims, and he wraps it all up in a cute, cuddly package. He also believes in the inerrant truth of the bible. Unlike, for example, the Pope.
darrylglass5102 4 years ago
boo! Thats why I like him! death penalty to only those who do bad crimes.
jeremiahj13 4 years ago
Whether you think state-sponsored murder is good or bad, getting really jazzed about it is psychotic at best.
darrylglass5102 4 years ago
The Huck is Jimmy Carters little brother.
VoodooMagicMan 4 years ago
Yeah. If Jimmy Carter was CRAAAAAAAZY.
darrylglass5102 4 years ago
Huck is Jimmy Carter and George Bush Jr.'s love child.
Silvsilvchan 4 years ago
very accurate, Clinton is trying to play the race card to show to white americans that Obama just a black man. well, I hope she knows that we white do not think like that. I might add Thank you to MLK work after all. nice video
hardddisk 4 years ago 2
Obama is the one who played the race card he is self defeating his and MLK's dream, now Hillary was wrong about it taking a president to make His dream a reality, I've posted so, but her statement isn't racial, just ignorant
hobodreamer 4 years ago
Check out obamatruth dot org.
louiethe20th 4 years ago
Osama cannot possibly win. He's even less realistic than Hitlerly. Republicans are a shoe-in in '08.
ebonics4everyone 4 years ago
YOu are a clown you have no substance. You voted for Bush or Gore you can certainly vote for Obama. Your childish Osama reference is only funny the simple and shallow... I think most of us are on the intelligent side while you the SIMPLE-TON.
pnscar3 4 years ago 4
Applause, I feel honored as a Hispanic American to know that the hard work and sacrifices of this man has not only opened doors for the African American people but for all of the minorities that have lived in this country.I hope that the day never comes when we take this man's actions and powerful message for granted. Long live his message and his work. Thank you Mr. King.- Obama for change,unity,and inspiration. lets go!!!!
airfuzz4 4 years ago
airfuzz: Obama for amnesty and welfare. Surrender and failure. No thanks.
ebonics4everyone 4 years ago
"surrender and failure"
the war is already a failure, so is your president and the entire pack of crooks pandering to racist xenophobic morons like you!
historywillabsolve 4 years ago
good luck buddy!! just to let you know, you're outnumbered by far. Republicans?? You have to be kidding, you must not know what its like to be poor. You don't have a clue.
airfuzz4 4 years ago
black enough" you all need to read the 'willie lynching laws'put in place by slave owners to seperate blacks, and it is still working till this day in comments like "is he black enough"
lodiedodiee 4 years ago
I think you are looking for a sort of legitmacy in a political apparatus that is by its very nature corrupt!!
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PeaceGod12 4 years ago
Hilarity Clinton was grossly overrating LBJ in the same way you are overrating MLK. He was a known and documented member of at least 56 communist fronts and got his funding and orders from a jewish ambulance chaser for the American SNIVEL Liberties Union, Stanley Levison. As highly as you may hold him in your esteem...and SOME of the things he said were dead on, they would have had to be...but he was nothing more than a black Elmer Gantry and throwaway tool for jewish communists.
bionicmisfit 4 years ago
wow, I don't know that your brain functions correctly.
airfuzz4 4 years ago
There's apparently a good bit more you don't know either.
bionicmisfit 4 years ago
yes.
but he was one person.
a big person.
a major amazing person..
but one person.
titan777us 4 years ago 3
Shame on Hillary Clinton for citing historical facts!
yuechan 4 years ago
So it's a "fact" that MLK's dream began to be realized when LBJ signed the CRA? One could argue that MLK's dream began to be realized when the court's ruled segregation as unconstitutional in 1956. I'd argue that his dream began to be realized when the oppressed citizens of Montgomery stood up to their oppressors and walked to and from work, month after month. But could LBJ's legislation, signed 8 years later, be considered the beginning? Not a chance.
lafrefre2000 4 years ago
I don't think there ever a better address to the nation than this one!
hobodreamer 4 years ago 2
u are right
CoinCasey 4 years ago 2
All she said was MLK's "Dream" could not have been at least partially realised without a president that had the "balls" to sign the civil rights act into law. She is saying that she would have and has the courage to do something along those same lines. Hence all that great president garbage, man what is with you its like in all of your videos you apply your preconcieved notions that everyone wants to hurt and disrespect you and yours. You seem like a victim of fear mongering
pokebud 4 years ago
I agree...because Kennedy did not even want to sign the civil rights not because he was racist but because he was afraid it would hurt his um appeal to people...so LBJ signed it because Kennedy didn't have the balls to do it so right on!
on another note I don't know where Hilliary was going with what she said I don't have an opinion I will have to watch it again
vnt31 4 years ago
I agree and how could they know, being rich affluently white, I don't like candidates using Dr King to try to get elected, why can't they run on their own merits? JFK and Ron Regan also get used, and not one of them are like these icons that they use!
hobodreamer 4 years ago
Everyone has a right to see into a candidate what they want to, you see a nepotistic dynasty with Hillary, others see a closet Muslim and worry is there terrorists in that closet? but what good does those characterizations do but add to the negative campaigning that mars this presidential race? independently yours
hobodreamer 4 years ago
What is tragic isn't what Hillary said was twisted into a racial issue which helps set back Dr. Kings dream, but that his dream is being misunderstood, I disagree that when LBJ signed into law the Civil Rights Act is when Dr. Kings dream was realized. you see Dr. King wasn't talking about a piece of legislation, he was talking about our hearts, when we in our hearts can judge one another by the content of our hearts and not the color of our skin, that is when Dr. Kings dream will be realized.
hobodreamer 4 years ago
Senator Clinton's statements were LIES.
ReppaBlicken 4 years ago
Hillary Clinton is an elitist liberal snob.
She has nothing in common with ordinary working people in America, black or white.
LBJ was a fucking war criminal.
AcePilot101 4 years ago
You're right!
09NXN06 4 years ago
I'm a Ron Paul supporter. I appreciate your views and the points you've made. On Monday, every American should pause in solemn and sober remembrance of the people who fought on our home turf for the rights and lives of their neighbors, strangers and people of all walks of life.
You and I may not agree on who the best person for the job is, but we certainly both understand the value of life and liberty.
Thank you for your insights.
Deeptoad 4 years ago
Deeptoad; I am not for Ron Paul, but I agree with your statement:every American should pause in solemn and sober remembrance of the people who fought on our home turf for the rights and lives of their neighbors, strangers and people of all walks of life.
ReppaBlicken 4 years ago
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grwizy 4 years ago
How did she say that with a straight face. Why would she equate herself with Johnson & Obama with King. I mean, not smart. Doesn't she run these arguments by her advisors? Wow.
roots12 4 years ago
I just hope that people can stop being so
one sided on issues. I think that H Clinton
want to say that she should be Pres, and that
Barrack should take pullpit like King.
OOar 4 years ago
Watch Obamas smackdown speech at my videos.
Zappa2324 4 years ago
I think that anyone who is still doubting that it was Obama who was using the race card should be directed to the Las Vegas debate a couple of days ago. Obama, with evidence right before him, admitted that he was the one who did. He was completely "accountable" for the whole race problem. I entreat all of you who really don't believe that Obama did it, to watch the recent Nevada debate.
NobleKnight23 4 years ago
Great Video, well put together and im loving the "facts" that you presented. H. Clinton really exsposed herself and her disrespect to MLK, she made it sound like that all of those inspiring speeches by MLK and the struggle he went through had no power and change to the Government until, the current president made actions...The Clintons are really exsposing their real sour insides...to me thir a joke*
A positive diverse CHANGE is coming..
"Obama 08"
renasauncex 4 years ago
This was an excellent video. You took things in a balanced, cognitive manner, and helped me get a clear grasp of the issue - without vilifying her, you helped up see where Clinton messed up. And then you showed us that important speech, which I am ashamed to say I never got to seeing on my own. Well done.
Gremrat 4 years ago
Look Paul voted to go after Osama and Al Qaeda but not to go into Iraq for WMD's that didn't exist. Paul is the only one who would follow the constitution. Anyone who says's that the current foreign policy over the last 50 years has not perpetuated the hate for America in the Middle East just doesn't really know history. How would American's feel if Russia or China where supplying arms to the Iraqi insurgence and Al Qaeda??
sifromeire 4 years ago
The power of MLK's dream was realized largely because of the millions of people who were involved in the civil rights movement.
inspiration7777 4 years ago 2
It's going to be interesting to watch Hillary backtrack when someone actually realizes that Democrats are not in any way nor have ever been 'Civil Rights' and checks voting records and Political affiliation of the Confederacy or the Union and what has not changed about both Parties.
ReppaBlicken 4 years ago
She is lying. Hillary Clinton tells repeated lies. I can say it honestly now so I am going to point out her lies constantly. History is important because it helps you see the present. Democrats are the shame of the past and the present. Leave it to Hillary to destroy the Democrat Party...
ReppaBlicken 4 years ago
Kennedy did not intend to keep his promise to sponsor a bill when elected. He actually had voted 'no' when he was a Senator in 1957. Eisenhower wrote the Civil Rights act of 1957. Kennedy only acted when he saw support for Democrats in the mid term was low. He copied Eisenhowers bill, watered it down, and was assassinated when it reached the House. Hillary lies about all of these facts.
ReppaBlicken 4 years ago
This is true, Goldwater was opposed to the civil rights act of 1964, because of it's involvement in state politics and private business. However he was the canidate who as a senetor supported the civil rights act of 1957, 1960 and would later support the civil rights act of 1968.
Knoss 4 years ago
now everyone can say that "RACE" is not a factor in this election but it is I HONESTLY HATE to admitt it but its true, I mean Hillary wasnt down-talking on what MLK went through or what he stood for but is only stating the facts YES MLK DID strive for EQUAL rights Yes we give all the credit he deserves BUT it was LBJ that made it happen Obama has the same or more fault for the comment and contraversy made about MLK
nrenteria 4 years ago
No, the point is Democrats did not help Martin Luther King. That's what Senator Clinton is lying about. She is asserting aggressively, a lie that Lyndon Johnson deserved any credit at all and that the Republican President, who wrote those bills, did not. That is an outrage! Clinton is LYING.
ReppaBlicken 4 years ago
Zennie - I can see your point about Clinton but what I fail to understand is Obama's stance on Iraq and soon to be possibly Iran. MLK wanted to end the war in Vietnam and he didn't agree with the war and I truly believe if he was president today your country would not be in Iraq. Obama wants to continue the war against Al Qaeda and I believe that will mean staying in Iraq. Ron Paul is a better candidate for MLK's message so we all may be "Free at Last"
sifromeire 4 years ago
War on drugs = Republican BIG government.
What a waste of our tax dollars!
Ron Paul 2008 - libertarian
RonPaulGeorgeRingo 4 years ago
Johnson could not stop the bill, and made a comment when he signed about handing the south to the Republicans for a generation. Dirksen had to break a democrat filibuster to get the 1964 bill through to him to be signed. LBJ could not veto.
ReppaBlicken 4 years ago
Hillary is outright lying. The President before Kennedy wrote those bills with help from Everitt Dirksen. Johnson did not pass those bills, they probably assassinated Kennedy in an attempt to sabotage it because the bill was in the House when Kennedy was shot. Kennedy voted no on Eisenhower's first bill in 1957 when he was a Senator.
ReppaBlicken 4 years ago
Hillary sucks....
slowasscivic 4 years ago
zen:
why do you hate free exchange of ideas?
BooBooLane 4 years ago
mlk is the bomb he let all racs come together blaks white spanish native american whoo whoo. im black and i want both hillary and barak to win. dont just vote for barak because hes black. nonononon. i think hillary and arak would make a good future. whoo whoo
b5lovr 4 years ago
b-5:
No one would ever imagine that a black person would vote for Borat Hoo-sain O'Belchki just because he is also black.
BooBooLane 4 years ago
I did. You admit Hillary was right, but specify only by the smallest degree. How was she wrong? Martin Luthor King was never President, he would have needed someone's help regardless of the colour of the President.
scottyross00 4 years ago
MLK wasn't only fighting for blacks. He was fighting for ALL of us. Everybody's civil liberties are at stake.
Example, the recent law passed H.R.1955 Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007.
From freedom to fascism. Do your research.
denniandrew2002 4 years ago 2
"Our struggle in Selma had brought the whole issue of the right to vote to the attention of the nation," King said. "Selma brought us a voting bill...
Dr Martin Luther King, Jnr
gbetsatsu 4 years ago
On the way back from collecting his Nobel Peace Prize in Oslo, Dr King went to see LBJ at the White House. This is a quote from his autobiography.
"I can't get a voting rights bill through in this session of Congress." He said, "Now, there's some other bills that I have here that I want to get through in my Great Society program, and I think in the long run they'll help Negroes more, as much as a voting rights bill."
I left simply saying, "Well, we'll just have to do the best that we can."
gbetsatsu 4 years ago
The President said nothing could be done. But we started a movement.
Three months later, in Selma, Alabama, on what became known as Bloody Sunday, police beat peaceful protesters on a bridge, and days afterward Lyndon Johnson made a speech to a joint session of Congress that Martin Luther King called "one of the most eloquent, unequivocal, and passionate pleas for human rights ever made by a President of the United States."
gbetsatsu 4 years ago
Well, I don't take any personal offence though I suspect MLK would. REgardless it's stupid to keep arguing different political persuations. Its all opinion based and therefore neither right nor wrong.
Zamboni45 4 years ago
I really do doubt it. MLK and LBJ both played important roles in different means. They both had a great deal of respect for one another, and I doubt that he would get offended by HRC praising LBJ for his efforts.
yuechan 4 years ago
This video seems pretty direct in regards of explanation of his view.
GEORGEBUSH322 4 years ago
This isn't very logical.
You take offence by Clinton saying 'LBJ realized Martin Luthor King's dream.' You provide no argument, but just say it's wrong. By being President and making it law, and making sure Martin Luthor King's actions weren't in vain, LBJ enacted King's "Dream." Martin Luthor King was the substance, LBJ was the procedure.
scottyross00 4 years ago
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I had to listen to it about 20 times... but I didn't hear any racist remarks?!?!?!
Can someone help me?!
I don't see anything racist about this. She said it took LBJ to finally get something through legislation...indicating the importance of presidency and how people need to work together.
This is so typical way of America, certain 'groups' always try to add race to something that isn't there.
I'm so sick of this shit. If you want respect, earn it.
thechoosendude 4 years ago
jtfeire, you are right, public opinion had an enormous hand in the civil right bill being passed. This furthers the idea that public opinion plays an enormous role in what our government does, and it is not the president's role to take credit for what the public wanted.
Zamboni45 4 years ago
Geothink, you seem to be missing the point here. You fail to see what Clinton's comment says about her character. In her quote, clinton emphasizes that it is the president who is responsible for change in this country, however it took 250,000 person rally at the doorstep of the federal government to pressure the them enough to finally pass the civil rights bill.
Zamboni45 4 years ago
...and don't forget the assassination of JFK to get them to do it.
HaloedG 4 years ago
Geothink1, comprehend that pride and tradition has gotten in the way of your reasoning, you analyze what society tells you. To be a fair and free thinking person, analyze what is actually happenening, this will be hard for you to understand, but you are on the exact same level as the guy in the video. He talks about racism he promotes it among his race. You talk about people using racism, as an excuse and they continue to use it!!!
Zamboni45 4 years ago
Additionally Hillary is a new person every few weeks, and that day while showcasing her "belief" in action she implied that it is the president's prerogative to decide the fate of our country, not that of the people. If you have read the constitution you will be familiar with the idea that we the people, hold the charge of designing and enacting laws.
Zamboni45 4 years ago
Geothink, you seem to be missing the point here. You fail to see what Clinton's comment says about her character. In her quote, clinton emphasizes that it is the president who is responsible for change in this country, however it took 250,000 person rally at the doorstep of the federal government to pressure the them enough to finally pass the civil rights bill.
Zamboni45 4 years ago
Zamboni, if everybody had just crossed their arms America would still be living in segregation. I think we can all agree on that. But 250,000 people don't change anything on their own. They had the majority of public opinion (i.e. voters) supporting them, tired of racism. Do you know how many years of marches and even riots it took for the Apartheid to end in South Africa? Mandela spent 27 years in prison!
jtfreire 4 years ago
King and his supporters were the only ones who really risked their lives out there for a cause and the outcome would have been terrible for them if the goal hadn't been achieved. But let us not forget that there were politicians, regardless of their colour, who had the intelligence to realise that things had to change. Though I'm not American, I wish Martin Luther could still be with us to be the 1st African American president.
jtfreire 4 years ago
Geothink, you seem to be missing the point here. You fail to see what Clinton's comment says about her character. In her quote, clinton emphasizes that it is the president who is responsible for change in this country, however it took 250,000 person rally at the doorstep of the federal government to pressure the them enough to finally pass the civil rights bill.
Zamboni45 4 years ago
"You fail to see what Clinton's comment says about her character...Clinton emphasizes that it is the president who is responsible for change in this country, however it took 250,000 person rally at the doorstep of the government to pressure them enough."
I think you're reading WAY too much into her rather shallow remark. I don't trust her one bit, but if you take her words to mean that she dismisses the power of group efforts, that speaks more of your preconceptions than about Clinton.
Marbles471 4 years ago
jtfreire - ur wishful thinking. but she did diminish the struggle by claiming a white man was responsible for the catalyst of the civil rights movement.
toledohomenetwork 4 years ago
Clinto didn't diminuish King's struggle! She just said that he would have just failed if the political power didn't embrace such cause (either that or the people successfully would have to rebel against the establishment).
jtfreire 4 years ago
Exactly, but like always, African Americans were going to think that was racial... Why do you keep belittleing yourselfs, just put it in your head, Blacks, Whites, Hispanics, Gays, Straights, ALL THE SAME, nothing is racial unless you wanted to be...Vote HILLARY CLINTON 2008
geothink1 4 years ago
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Search "Clinton Crimes" or just click my name and watch them all...well alot of them....i dont have THAT much time!
kidwave1 4 years ago
I appreciate the manner in which you so eloquently stated your point!
lifeforce1986 4 years ago
History shows that Lyndon B. Johnson utilized his experience in parliamentary politics and the power of the presidency in support and passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act!
sunoverla 4 years ago
Man this is the best vid I have seen on this topic. You keep posting brother, you are on fire.
shaicapone 4 years ago