Dr. Robert Rowen, MD Tells Why He Became Alternative Doctor

[impbev]

I need to find a doctor like you here in Georgia...

[biomans]

@impbev check acam.org for doctors in your area that provide the same treatments recommended by Dr. Rowen.

[biomans]

@impbev contact acam.org for a doctor in your area.

[bennett5058]

This guy rules. Thank you so much for doing this.

[biomans]

@bennett5058 Dr. Rowen is awesome.

[GJPeacocks]

This doctor is my new hero along with Mercola and Blaylock. I wish I could find an MD or DO like this to work for. Even if just volunteer work. I'd like to support the cause.

[biomans]

@GJPeacocks Dr. Rowen in one of my heroes I honored in healthydoctors Alternative Medicine Hall Of Fame and as a Health Hero in my insearchofheroes.

[utuberocker40]

can u help me with the list and dosages of vitamins and minerals from the so as i can help my brother get off heroin

[musicofmeasuredotcom]

Dr Bowen's a true modern hero. Beware the agents of the drug-companies, in bed with the GMO-producers and the government, to turn people into dull-witted cattle who accept poor-health thru reduced-nutrition GM-foods, thus increasing the incidence of modern disease (cancer, heart & neurological diseases) which Big-Pharma will then "treat" but never cure with expensive drugs, while the politicians take kick-backs for passing legislation to outlaw natural, low-cost health remedies which can cure.

[motherfucker669]

People live longer than they did 100 years ago, and its all thanks to modern medicine and it is because of genetically engineered food that we can feed everyone alive today. None of that homeopathic crap actually works. Its only purpose is to separate gullible saps from their money.

[CulturePeaceForever]

Several sources have stated that many peoples' absorption mechanism(physically)are weak,so they need larger amounts of Vitamin C to keep healthy.Have you all heard to the bowel tolerance?

[Katiegirl500]

Doctors like you give me hope!!! Thank you for being open minded and using your skill to help heal the world!!!

It's amazing in the face of REAL RESULTS, people can still say it isn't 'scientifically founded'. Ha ha! Thanks you again!!!!

[gerardowmby]

For the rest of you, there are thousands of research studies on Ayurved on this new invention called the internet.

[gerardowmby]

I teach philosophy of science, so I know the process of investigation. Obviously, there's no sense in arguing with a closed mind. Goodbye.

[lonnied123]

How am I the closed minded one? Let me reiterate:

I am willing to CHANGE MY MIND if you can show me the evidence for your claims.

That is the very definition of open minded.

Are you willing to do the same if I can show you evidence that contradicts your claims? If the answer is no, YOU are closed minded.

[gerardowmby]

For the rest of you, there are thousands of research studies listed on this new invention called the Internet.

[gerardowmby]

No. Every substance added by nature actually decreases the side effects. By the way, the "experience" with herbal formulas I mentioned is repeated observation giving evidence, which is how the scientific process works.

[lonnied123]

Please show me the evidence that when nature adds extra chemicals side effects go down. Thats all I'm asking for. I will concede and change my view point on the issue if you can do this. This flies in the face of not only the current evidence I am aware of, but logic as well. Are you not aware of the hundreds of NATURALLY occurring chemicals that will kill you if you ingest them? How does this factor into your "nature = always good" hypothesis? What if "nature" added these chemicals to the mix?

[lonnied123]

Also, observation is the beginning of the scientific process, not its entirety. Observation leads you to hypothesis, which which leads to a good study with controls and variables, which then leads to conclusion.

Did you not do science fair projects in school? Did the teacher accept "I saw it happen" as a conclusion?

[tinimpajko]

I agree to the point with Ionnied123. If you have for example too much prostaglandins E2 and you got an inhibitor of that molecule then there will be no more abundance of prosta. E2.

adding more chemicals would only add more variables to the "soup".

[lonnied123]

But dont you get it, Nature only adds the right chemicals. It has humans best interest in mind. It knows exactly what chemicals we need inside of our body. The sole purpose of plants is to make humans feel good. The more natural compounds the better.

Also, there are NO natural compounds that are harmful to humans. This is because nature can do no wrong. Everything in nature is beneficial to humans. Thats just how nature works. I dont have a single study proving this, but trust me, its science.

[gerardowmby]

It lowers side effects. We go by the evidence. Pharmaceuticals have failed all science in this regard, especially since they simply mask the symptoms, not balance the body to normalcy. The Ayurved formulas I prescribe assume all of the other requirements with which you are concerned. Safe practice? These formulas have no side-effects. I'm not speaking hypothetically, I'm speaking from experience and from the wide-ranging experience of thousands of other Ayurvedic practitioners.

[lonnied123]

I am ignorant of the evidence of which you speak. Please point me to the studies that back up your claims. Personal experience is not scientific evidence at all, as I'm sure you are aware the plural of anecdote is anecdotes, not evidence.

Also, how would a medication with a number of medications in it lower the side effects? Every substance added would increase the amount of effects, both primary and secondary, yes?

Again, No studies = No proof. Stories dont count. Thats all there is to it.

[Jarocho2003]

If someone told you drink more water to get rid of your headache, would you need a study to believe that it work? Science some times is behind the cures and big pharma would not want you to know that a much cheaper and better alternative is out there would they?

[lonnied123]

I know this was just an example, but if you are genuinely asserting that drinking water can cure headaches, this is false (unless your headache is caused by dehydration)

However, lets rephrase your statement so that the word "water" is replaced with any other word... Than yes, I would like to see a study to see if it works or if it is simply placebo. This could be a plant, a walk in the park, standing on your head for 15 minutes... Anything.

What if I told you that eating bananas cures cancer?

[Jarocho2003]

I agree more studies should be done on natural stuff but they aren't....there is no money on letting you know that in fact apple cider vinegar can lower your blood pressure. Is there?

But I think you had high blood pressure only a fool wouldn't try apple cider vinegar for at least a week to see if it works or not.

Of course you shouldn't touch certain plants as they can also be dangerous, but for the most part the stuff that people are trying is pretty safe.

[lonnied123]

There is money in it for the Apple Cider Vinegar industry :-)

Having said that, studies HAVE been on it, and have shown no efficacy in anything from Arthritis to blood pressure. What are you basing your claim on that is lowers BP?

Also, this is why a fool might skip on taking the vinegar: How much does it lower BP? Does it produce the same result consistently? Does it interfere with other medications? What dose is needed to produce a specific result? Is it similar in most people?

[Jarocho2003]

Yes apple cider vinegar works on a lot of people (check both the cure zone and earth clinic web site and find out for yourself)...Again, if drugs work for you then follow that path...some of us choose to try herbs before drugs, but it does NOT mean I wouldn't try a synthetic drug if that was the only option I saw I had left...take care

[lonnied123]

I have checked those websites and I will tell you why I am not impressed:

1 - No studies, everything is based on anecdotes which mean next to nothing.

2 - People are reporting only 1 or 2 different BP readings, not enough data

3 - The change in readings(15-20 points systolic) could be due to something as simple as sitting or laying down. I see this everyday at work, people come in with BP of 165, they lay down and relax and it goes to 130 without any medication

Just be smart about using it

[motherfucker669]

Obviously, if homeopathy was a viable alternative to actual medicine then it would be able to compete in a free market, but it can not. People are willing to pay more for drugs that actually work than for little vials of tapwater that don't do anything which is why pharmaceutical companies will always have more money and be able to help more people than asswipe quacks like rowen.

[lonnied123]

And about your idea that drugs coming from plants from an environment of many other compounds having FEWER side effects, it would actually INCREASE the side effects because MORE UNKNOWN COMPOUNDS ARE ENTERING YOUR BODY THAT YOU THOUGHT. Not only that, but depending on what time of the year the plants are harvested, the soil, the atmosphere around the plant, the concentration of medication can be anywhere, which means you lose control over the amount of drug you are giving. Very unsafe practice.

[gerardowmby]

Fewer side effects, because that is how nature works.

[lonnied123]

You caught me, I have been brainwashed by big pharma to kneel at the alter of the might pill bottle. I guess as long as it was a bottle of St Johns Wart that would be okay with you though, right?

What dont you guys get about this. A drug is a substance that alters the bodies physiology in some way. Thats it. It means nothing to say it is a natural drug or a man-made drug, they both carry effects and side effects.

The ONLY thing I care about is efficacy, which no alternative therapy has shown.

[lonnied123]

The minute you can show me a well controlled and thought out, peer reviewed study that shows the efficacy of a treatment... Indeed ANY treatment, I will be more than happy to accept it as genuine.

[gerardowmby]

Drugs are isolated from plants containing an environment of many other compounds, thus giving few side-effects. Ayurvedic herbal formulas, some taking six months or more to concoct, are combinations of many herbs in formulas handed down for thousands of years, and with a record of efficacy. If you aren't having any luck with "alternative" medicine, try Ayurved.

[lonnied123]

I do not leave my health to luck, should I need medical care I will seek out a practitioner of science based medical treatments no matter what their origin, be it plant,mineral,or animal.

Again, on Ayurvedic "Medicine" I restate my position - Show me the studies. That's all you have to do. The fact that something takes a long time to make, is a mixture of many things, or has been around for a long time say NOTHING about whether it works or not. Even the NCCAM admits it is lacking in evidence.

[gerardowmby]

Poison drugs from poisoned brains.

[gerardowmby]

The above should read: "Pharmaceuticals are isolated from plants which originally contain an environment of many other compounds. Plants are more balanced in that regard and therefore give fewer side-effects, unlike a pharmaceutical which is an isolated compound.

[lonnied123]

I just want to understand your claim clearly:

You say that pharmaceuticals isolated from a plant, which is an isolation of a SINGLE compound, have MORE side effects than using the plant itself which could contain any amount of the chemical depending on time of harvest/condition of plant/type of soil/type of fertilizer etc... AND could contain any number of other chemicals that have leeched into it from nearby plants and the environment?

I just want to be sure that is the claim you are making.

[biomans]

thank your for your comment. lonnied123 has been brainwashed by the media and medical powers that be. too bad ignorance has its own rewards...a life destroyed by drugs that have adverse side effects. There is a place for drugs and natural therapies. it takes a wise doctor who knows both to provide the right therapy at the right time...how sweet it is.

ralph

[rehabman28]

lonnied123 (1 minute ago)

Lonnied123, dude you are a male nurse...you go to school for what? 2 years, 4 at most...come back to when you Wake up...

[lonnied123]

My gender is irrelevant in the issue, If Dr Rowan was a "Female Doctor" would you be less persuaded by his video? And in reference to my level of schooling, its actually quite irrelevant as to what the facts are. No amount of schooling will change a fact.

[biomans]

thank you so much for your praise and recommendation.

take care,

ralph

[biomans]

Cancer has many causes, radiation, vitamin and mineral deficiency, toxicity, etc. Most of the MDs I know are fine people and do the best with what they have available. In the early days of medical training, they taught healing therapies. Pharmaceutical companies focus on surgery and drugs. Unfortunately, money is critical for survival of doctors and pharmaceutical industry. Natural cures cannot be patented so they are not practiced or condoned...mostly suppressed.

ralph

[lonnied123]

The fact that something is "natural" means nothing. The only thing that matters is if it works, and that fact must be established by a standard of scientific evidence,which simply has not been done in CAM. I wonder why...

Also, Do you also mean to tell me that your practice does not make money? Was is a significant pay cut to become an "Alternative Doctor" ?

[biomans]

natural does mean something. drugs are the result of man-made manipulation of something that is made by God. you need to not only look at something if it works but also the long term effects. usually natural therapies have no long or short term harmful effects. Money is good if you provide a valuable service. Dr. Rowen deservers every penny he makes because he is providing a valuable service to his patients. the world needs more doctors like him.

ralph

[lonnied123]

Your statement seems to imply that everything in nature is beneficial to humans. This is certainly not the case, and in fact many "drugs" are in fact derived from natural substances, and then refined to assure quality, efficacy, and safety.

The point I was trying to make was that words like "Natural" and "Big Pharma" are simply buzz words that a particular community has adopted. Supplement companies make money just like pharma companies... Only pharmaceuticals actually work.

[lonnied123]

If cancer was truly a vitamin deficiency, dont you think MD's would be ALL OVER that kind of treatment? Every MD I have ever known has genuinely cared about making people better, and if this honestly cured cancer there is absolutely no doubt they would use it.

MD's spend hours combing through med journals looking for the latest and most effective treatments. They dont do this so they can pimp pharmaceuticals.

[rehabman28]

no, MDs would NOT be all over this.....there is no money to be made in this area...you don't need a prescription for it...

[lonnied123]

You are operating on the false premise that the only reason doctors treat people is to make the most amount of money possible. If this were the case doctors would not specialize in areas of interest, they would only work in areas that paid the most. Also, the gentleman in the above video is an MD, and yet is working in this field... That seems to poke a hole in your theory as well.

Many MD's I work with will often go with the treatment that is cheaper for the patient all things being equal.

[Oehtkralc]

I am so grateful there are doctors out there like you!

You're the only reason I wish I lived in Alaska. (Couldn't handle the cold)

Stay strong in your convictions, friend.

[biomans]

dr. rowen is an amazing doctor. he is a tru pioneer.

take care,

ralph

[biomans]

dr. rowen is a hero. he has sacrificed his life to create medical freedom for the rest of us.

ralph

[biomans]

thank you for your wisdom.

ralph

[NaturalTherapies]

As one human being to another, I love you!

Keep up the good work.

[biomans]

Thanks!!!!! Helping to make the world a better place by helping people be healthy is tough. I appreciate your comment more than you know.

ralph

[MsLatosi]

God Bless You, You are Fantastic!

[biomans]

thank you. Dr. Borkin is an awesome human being.