Manitoba auto insurance is a good example of how public can be more efficient then private. Only 1 of the past 11 years has there been an increase in there fees. This year it returned 150million to its costumers, a number similar to the profit of private insurers that is ofcourse never returned, while here in NB we find that the private corps have been gauging us for the past 7. Fraser Institute is funded by medical corps. There is trillions of dollars of profit to be made.
dude... listen up. Yes, you are a human being... you dont want a price tag on you... and so on.. but, heres the thing... the wrong thing about Health Care gave by the government is... that the goverment know NOTHING about it. People need to wait months to have a cicurgy.... Why? no need to Hurry! this hospital have no comptetition to worry about... after all, is the government who decide where the money goes. And thats why Private Health Care is good. Competiton equals progression.
My good simon, is a dentist's office a hospital? If I'm not mistaken, they aren't. In the US hospitals are private yet there's surveys that show private hospitals demonstrate less care. There are doctors in Canada and the US that say the same thing.
The kid has it right. He didn't express it as well as he could have, but the message came through: sickness and disease are not things any man with a conscience would try to profit off of. Don't take any shit from "radically1". His type only crawl out from under their rock when Glenn Beck tells them to. We real Americans will do our own dirty laundry. His time is coming.
If you believe in the right to life and security of persons then you should oppose the ban on private care in Canada. In Chaoulli V Quebec the supreme court ruled the ban on private insurance and care not only violated the Quebec Charter, it violated Section 7 of the Canadian charter. Why do you support the right to life of a murderer(oppose capital punishment/extradition) but not the right to life for ordinary Canadian citizens if the public system fails them?
On an ideological level some might consider the Canadian system attractive, however,the reality is that the Canadian tax-funded single-payer model restricts expenditure to such an extent that healthcare supply far from matches demand. It's unacceptable that 85% of median waiting times are higher than clinically reasonable waiting times. There is a lack of accountability, responsiveness, & innovation in a govt controlled healthcare monopoly. Canada needs a two-tiered system.
it pisses me off to see how fucked i am in america.....IM NOT KIDDING! i got laid off then got hurt ..... no insurance.... yeah so 550 dollars just to register in the E.R. then another 470 for the doctor fee....(no doctor came to see me.... a nurse came in and gave me some pills and sent me on my way.) not to mention all the follow up visits and rehab..........so yeah i envy you in canada
@yanni5 The same thing happen to my dad, but he almost died because he was turned away from the first hospital because he had no insurance and had to walk to another. He had pneumonia.
Excellent experience. Note that many donors to the Fraser institute are not Canadians, but actually American corporations like big tobacco, oil, health care. Donors also include Health care lobbyist from the U.S.
If you let government spend your money for you, do you think they're going to spend it more carefully than you are?
In a healthcare system, the money is 'invisible'.
And I don't have healthcare here in Japan. And I can tell you, I'm much more careful how I cross the street at night or who I stand next to on the train.
I haven't been sick or been to the hospital in years.
No price tag on your body? Maybe you're right. But your time is money. Waiting in hospital reception rooms sucks.
I've been living in Japan and everybody keeps telling me to join the Japanese health care system. I tell them: No thanks. But then they get confused. They just can't get into the mindset that I would rather pay for the health services out of my own pocket when I need them.
Went to the hospital $3000. Didn't mind. Had I joined the healthcare plan (scam), I would have paid 10 times that in monthly contributions.
Health Care is irrelevant if people don't have food. We should demand "universal groceries" first! My body needs nourishment and it isn't right that some people get more than I do just because they can pay-off the money-hungry farmers and grocers. In a country as wealthy as America no one should go without Applebee's or Ruth's Chris steaks because they are poor. Give me Krispy Kreme, or give me..uh...Sara Lee!
canada is beeter than the us, no one should adopt to this american, even in Gambia we are better off, what a shame America, u guys are really lost....
Yep, I hear all the time about people from all over the world going to Gambia for cutting-edge medical therapies. And with one doctor for every 5000 people, waiting times rarely exceed 4 months! I hear Michael Moore is getting all his health care from a "traditional healer" in Banjul these days!
SHAME ON THE AMERICANS! Shame on them! Their healthcare is worse than Gambia! Gambians should be adopting Americans. You hear that Obama. Pass a bill for that! Gambian for Prez!
I think that private healthcare may provide better treatment but certainly not better preventive care because the US healthcare system is so money hungry and corrupt. Free universal healthcare is better than none at all just like free education is better than none at all. Both education and health should be free, you deny a country that and you deny it growth and life. Great argument and great video.
Your body does have a price regardless of your views the laws of economics dictate "there is no such thing as a free lunch". regardless of your naive assertions Canadians stream steadily into U.S. health care systems every day for terminal procedures. I know this because I live and work around many people who work in the local hospitals. Many elderly Canadians are turned away because they are deemed to costly and too old for the benefits of the procedure to actually matter.Economics 101 learn it
1) There are huge waits in America too SO it is unfair to label it as purely Canadian feature.
2) I find the position of US politicians incomprehensible - presumably PUBLIC health care is better than NO health care. What the US is really saying is that they are content for those at the bottom of the food chain to have no health care.
The truth is care in Canada varies widely. Quebec health care sucks and Toronto is very very good.
Being a Canadian who was raised in the Greater Toronto Area, I remember one December about 10 years ago where ALL the Toronto hospitals were turning away people showing up at Emergency.
I've been living in the USA 8 years now; it's astonishing how easy it is to get something as basic as an X-ray. That said, expect a fight with insurance companies for the less commonplace things. Health insurance takes a huge chunk of your paycheque here.
I guess I have been fortunate then because I always get seen in under 3 hours at the limit. On average it is 45 minutes to 1.5 hours. I think your example typical - if you have money/insurance you get seen quick. If not, you que up at the public hospital - where - there are waits too. I refuse to accept that waiting is a purely Canadian. That is a BS and unfair critism.
I's have a fit if I had to wait that long to see my doctor. I make an apointment, I show up at the apt. time, I get service no waiting. Once in a while they'll fall 10 or 15 minutes behind but 3 hours ahhhg.
Great topic, great opinion. The human body doesn't have a price tag, Canada should enhance and support its health care system. Canada already has the best health care system in the western hemisphere, so why give it up? Life expectancy and mortality rates are lower than the US, Mexico, or any other Latin Americna nation. While no system is perfect, we have a great system.
In America , we are the most racist and totalitarian country that claims democracy ! We pay the most taxes of any nation . We don't have national healthcare . Our education system has no money . Our military has way too much money . We have the largest percentage of our population in prison in the history of the world !! We are not free ! Canadians , know how lucky you are . Keep Canada free !
You're joking, right? The highest taxes? The Netherlands and Sweden. No healthcare? What are all the hospitals and clinics for? No money for education? The cost per child in public schools in near $10,000/year. Prisons? Ever heard of China? Cuba? North Korea? I love Canada, but let's not get stupid!
I was recently transferred from the US to Canada to work there. My daughter was born in the US. Her natural child birth cost $19,000US for 2 days in a hospital. My HMO paid all, but $500. In Canada, it would have cost the two nights stay ($25/day?). An economy cannot be competitive when a company or industry has to pay $300/worker per month for health care insurance and the taxpayer has to pay for those who cannot pay $19,000 to have a baby.
while a public, universal system is best, your precious liberals slashed healthcare spending in 95 by about 23billion? I think was the number.. an aweful lot don't you agree?
Again I was 12 in '95, what the Liberals did in '95 has nothing to do with my video. So what's with your preoccupation with bringing up things that don't even refer to my video?
I will tell you why. I think many of the things you criticize Harper for, the liberals have done or worse. You give this guy zero credit and I could make a million videos on what the liberals did and will probably do in this country and blast them. you are being a liberal mouthpiece. When conservatives do it its bad, when liberals do it its not worth mentioning. That's what I've gotten out of a lot of these videos.
Liberals aren't in power! Go make videos about what the Liberals did three years ago, or 13 years ago, or 35 years ago, I won't, because I'm interested in what's happening right now. I am not a mouthpiece for anyone. I've criticized the Liberals and the NDP, I criticize Harper and the Conservatives more because I believe they are wrong. I provide arguments upon which you do not respond to, so I ask you, who's the mouthpiece? Me, who puts my opinion forth with reason or you, who merely accuses?
I do care about what is happening now, and we're in a minority parliament with libs having a significant voice/vote. I'm not a mouthpiece I've agreed with some of your statments but I swear some of the things you say are Liberal Party talking points.
Okay, I don't even read the Liberal website or emails. I've said I've disagreed with the Liberal Party on various issues, I don't think you realize I disagree with the Liberals sending us to Afghanistan or for that matter the current Liberal position on Afghanistan. So you may say I merely quote Liberal talking points, yet you can't say I don't provide my own reasoning. For I know all talking points, Conservative and Liberal, do not provide any foundation.
Private system is more effective, I don't even think it's debatable. People are interested in providing you with the best service since you pay them. Private sector does everything better than public. It's been proved over and over. Now private healthcare may cost more, but at least I would pay for something that I get. While the Canadian system is completely outrageous.
You say: "It's been proved over and over." When every expert on the issue says both have positives and negatives and cannot be compared. For Instance Canadians live longer.
Why do we have to compare our system to the US? All of Europe including the most socialist countries have a mix of public and private systems and the results speak for themselves - Canada is ranked near the bottom and Sweden, France, Switzerland, etc are ranked at the top.
Liberals don't necessarily care about results though (see Kyoto). It's the message they care about - regardless of how shitty our system is.
I don't care about the message. I don't care about Liberals. I don't care about Conservatives. I care about commodifying the human body by putting price tags on our body parts. We're not a sum of price tags. We're people. FYI we're more similar to the US then we are to Sweden, France, etc.
Please explain to me how moral it is that my cat can get an MRI, hip replacement surgery or cancer therapy tomorrow but I have to wait for it until my name is called on a list. I have friends and family that have passed away on said lists.
We lose thousands of Canadian trained doctors to the US every year.
All can be fixed within our system. I noted that changes must be made, but it doesn't require privatization. Gilles Duceppe's policy of introducing doctors into the allocation of funds process is one said policy.
Hey douchebag, go fuck yourself. People die on the lists - which is fine by you apparently - as long as your uptopian ideals are satisfied with socialized healthcare . Maybe they could afford to pay for it in the US if they hadn't spent 35 years paying half of their salaries so your welfare ass could enjoy the fruits of their labours via "free" healthcare. Move to cuba, fidel.
How many 34-year-old's are on IV antibiotics monthly, an inhaled antibiotics, have a port-a-cath to receive their medications (meds) and require O2, require chestphysio three-to-four times daily or more frequently and need to various other medications (not listed above) ? Being unable to access necessary healthcare in Canada is extremely frustrating.
Canadian Medicare is ineffective. Doctors are incompetent or don't provide help, waiting lists are as long as hours and months and even after spending years little is done. I pay taxes and I can't get proper medical treatment. It doesn't surprise.
I couldn't agree more with you olegplanets. In my case, I have advanced lung disease, on O2 24/7, treated like a person with cystic fibrosis and have CF according to specialised testing done at Sick Kids, however I'm not allowed to attend a CF clinic and many specialists have turned me away and some refuse to see me. My illness is not by the "medical book. " It's frustrating to be so sick and not be getting the run around.
Well a private system certainly isn't more effective (if thats what your suggesting). Look at the facts. The US, which is the only developed nation with a completely privatized health care system, spends 15% of their GDP on health care. This is significantly more than ANY developed country with public health care, and yet, it still results in a lower life expectancy, higher infant mortality rate, etc. Why do you suppose this is?
No offense, but this comment sounds very dumb. I specifically said that the US has the lowest life expectancy of all developed countries and Gambia isn't a developed country. Obviously I'm not saying that the US has the lowest life expectation in the world, that kind of statement would be completely absurd.
Manitoba auto insurance is a good example of how public can be more efficient then private. Only 1 of the past 11 years has there been an increase in there fees. This year it returned 150million to its costumers, a number similar to the profit of private insurers that is ofcourse never returned, while here in NB we find that the private corps have been gauging us for the past 7. Fraser Institute is funded by medical corps. There is trillions of dollars of profit to be made.
natechomnicorp 9 months ago
dude... listen up. Yes, you are a human being... you dont want a price tag on you... and so on.. but, heres the thing... the wrong thing about Health Care gave by the government is... that the goverment know NOTHING about it. People need to wait months to have a cicurgy.... Why? no need to Hurry! this hospital have no comptetition to worry about... after all, is the government who decide where the money goes. And thats why Private Health Care is good. Competiton equals progression.
Sincrol 1 year ago
Nice. Wish more people here in the States were more like you...
IsisStarlights 1 year ago
I get far better treatment at dentist than I get at the hospital.
When I go to the dentist I get treated like a king.
When I go to the hospital I get treated like piece of crap.
The difference is that the dentist is privately run.
simontimon2 1 year ago
My good simon, is a dentist's office a hospital? If I'm not mistaken, they aren't. In the US hospitals are private yet there's surveys that show private hospitals demonstrate less care. There are doctors in Canada and the US that say the same thing.
scottyross00 1 year ago
How come it takes a week for my dog to get a hip replacement yet it took 2 years for my dad to get a hip replacement.
simontimon2 1 year ago
I don't know, do you think, and I'm just guessing here, your dad is not a dog?
scottyross00 1 year ago
The problem in Canada is that government has a monoply on health care. That's why canada has one of the most expencive univeral health care system.
Other countries like France, Denmark and Switzerland have both a government and privrate healthcare system so people have the freedom to choose.
simontimon2 1 year ago
Canada may have the most expensive UNIVERSAL health care system, but it doesn't have the MOST expensive system.
Other countries like the USA who have private healthcare are much more expensive.
scottyross00 1 year ago
Well then whats wrong with having both government and pivrate healthcare system like in Fance.
The cost of health care in France is half of the that in Canada.
simontimon2 1 year ago
What an amazing world we live in huh? All we need to solve crises are simple solutions like saying we should be like Denmark or France.
And here before I came across your solutions and reasoning I thought it would take hard work, public consultations, investigations, etc
scottyross00 1 year ago
The problem is that the baby boomer are gona retire in mass in a few short years and the current healthcare system isn't gona be able to handle it.
So what's your solution to the problem ?
simontimon2 1 year ago
The kid has it right. He didn't express it as well as he could have, but the message came through: sickness and disease are not things any man with a conscience would try to profit off of. Don't take any shit from "radically1". His type only crawl out from under their rock when Glenn Beck tells them to. We real Americans will do our own dirty laundry. His time is coming.
BringNLuv 2 years ago 2
If you believe in the right to life and security of persons then you should oppose the ban on private care in Canada. In Chaoulli V Quebec the supreme court ruled the ban on private insurance and care not only violated the Quebec Charter, it violated Section 7 of the Canadian charter. Why do you support the right to life of a murderer(oppose capital punishment/extradition) but not the right to life for ordinary Canadian citizens if the public system fails them?
StephSilvermen 2 years ago
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hcanuck7 2 years ago
It is the same as communism, every body are taken care of!! No thing to worry about! Just looks at Soviet Union, a great country!!
rumormater 2 years ago
On an ideological level some might consider the Canadian system attractive, however,the reality is that the Canadian tax-funded single-payer model restricts expenditure to such an extent that healthcare supply far from matches demand. It's unacceptable that 85% of median waiting times are higher than clinically reasonable waiting times. There is a lack of accountability, responsiveness, & innovation in a govt controlled healthcare monopoly. Canada needs a two-tiered system.
StephSilvermen 2 years ago
it pisses me off to see how fucked i am in america.....IM NOT KIDDING! i got laid off then got hurt ..... no insurance.... yeah so 550 dollars just to register in the E.R. then another 470 for the doctor fee....(no doctor came to see me.... a nurse came in and gave me some pills and sent me on my way.) not to mention all the follow up visits and rehab..........so yeah i envy you in canada
sincerely,
fucked in america
yanni5 2 years ago 11
@yanni5 The same thing happen to my dad, but he almost died because he was turned away from the first hospital because he had no insurance and had to walk to another. He had pneumonia.
mahalcat 1 year ago
Excellent experience. Note that many donors to the Fraser institute are not Canadians, but actually American corporations like big tobacco, oil, health care. Donors also include Health care lobbyist from the U.S.
SparwoodApple 2 years ago
If you let government spend your money for you, do you think they're going to spend it more carefully than you are?
In a healthcare system, the money is 'invisible'.
And I don't have healthcare here in Japan. And I can tell you, I'm much more careful how I cross the street at night or who I stand next to on the train.
I haven't been sick or been to the hospital in years.
No price tag on your body? Maybe you're right. But your time is money. Waiting in hospital reception rooms sucks.
ALFIEAJAPAN 2 years ago
I've been living in Japan and everybody keeps telling me to join the Japanese health care system. I tell them: No thanks. But then they get confused. They just can't get into the mindset that I would rather pay for the health services out of my own pocket when I need them.
Went to the hospital $3000. Didn't mind. Had I joined the healthcare plan (scam), I would have paid 10 times that in monthly contributions.
Healthcare is a scam.
ALFIEAJAPAN 2 years ago
So you are telling me that Japans health insurance cost them ove 1/3 of million dollars each year. i dont even have took that up to know it is BS
SparwoodApple 2 years ago
Check out the 20/20 documentary on healthcare.
Another video that just blows me away is the tree huggers crying video.
I guess you don't eat meat or fish because they don't have price tags.
Wake up. EVERYTHING has a price tag. And healthcare is NOT free. Never has been; never will be.
ALFIEAJAPAN 2 years ago
Health Care is irrelevant if people don't have food. We should demand "universal groceries" first! My body needs nourishment and it isn't right that some people get more than I do just because they can pay-off the money-hungry farmers and grocers. In a country as wealthy as America no one should go without Applebee's or Ruth's Chris steaks because they are poor. Give me Krispy Kreme, or give me..uh...Sara Lee!
drewas55 3 years ago 2
20/20 sicko
chantruong 3 years ago
canada is beeter than the us, no one should adopt to this american, even in Gambia we are better off, what a shame America, u guys are really lost....
GAMBIAN 3 years ago
Yep, I hear all the time about people from all over the world going to Gambia for cutting-edge medical therapies. And with one doctor for every 5000 people, waiting times rarely exceed 4 months! I hear Michael Moore is getting all his health care from a "traditional healer" in Banjul these days!
drewas55 3 years ago 4
Great responce,
zunerbigtman67 2 years ago
I agree Mr. wife beeter!
SHAME ON THE AMERICANS! Shame on them! Their healthcare is worse than Gambia! Gambians should be adopting Americans. You hear that Obama. Pass a bill for that! Gambian for Prez!
ALFIEAJAPAN 2 years ago 2
I think that private healthcare may provide better treatment but certainly not better preventive care because the US healthcare system is so money hungry and corrupt. Free universal healthcare is better than none at all just like free education is better than none at all. Both education and health should be free, you deny a country that and you deny it growth and life. Great argument and great video.
rhocassiopeiae 3 years ago
Your body does have a price regardless of your views the laws of economics dictate "there is no such thing as a free lunch". regardless of your naive assertions Canadians stream steadily into U.S. health care systems every day for terminal procedures. I know this because I live and work around many people who work in the local hospitals. Many elderly Canadians are turned away because they are deemed to costly and too old for the benefits of the procedure to actually matter.Economics 101 learn it
mproductions12 3 years ago
Everybody comments on Canadian wait times. BUT:
1) There are huge waits in America too SO it is unfair to label it as purely Canadian feature.
2) I find the position of US politicians incomprehensible - presumably PUBLIC health care is better than NO health care. What the US is really saying is that they are content for those at the bottom of the food chain to have no health care.
The truth is care in Canada varies widely. Quebec health care sucks and Toronto is very very good.
garsdetoronto 3 years ago 2
Being a Canadian who was raised in the Greater Toronto Area, I remember one December about 10 years ago where ALL the Toronto hospitals were turning away people showing up at Emergency.
I've been living in the USA 8 years now; it's astonishing how easy it is to get something as basic as an X-ray. That said, expect a fight with insurance companies for the less commonplace things. Health insurance takes a huge chunk of your paycheque here.
I've no idea what the "best solution" is.
JimAndRuby 3 years ago
I guess I have been fortunate then because I always get seen in under 3 hours at the limit. On average it is 45 minutes to 1.5 hours. I think your example typical - if you have money/insurance you get seen quick. If not, you que up at the public hospital - where - there are waits too. I refuse to accept that waiting is a purely Canadian. That is a BS and unfair critism.
garsdetoronto 3 years ago
I's have a fit if I had to wait that long to see my doctor. I make an apointment, I show up at the apt. time, I get service no waiting. Once in a while they'll fall 10 or 15 minutes behind but 3 hours ahhhg.
zunerbigtman67 2 years ago
I've never waited for healthcare in the U.S., Never. Diagnosis, to MRI, to surgery in five days for my herniated disc.
zunerbigtman67 2 years ago
Great topic, great opinion. The human body doesn't have a price tag, Canada should enhance and support its health care system. Canada already has the best health care system in the western hemisphere, so why give it up? Life expectancy and mortality rates are lower than the US, Mexico, or any other Latin Americna nation. While no system is perfect, we have a great system.
bj615 3 years ago
In America , we are the most racist and totalitarian country that claims democracy ! We pay the most taxes of any nation . We don't have national healthcare . Our education system has no money . Our military has way too much money . We have the largest percentage of our population in prison in the history of the world !! We are not free ! Canadians , know how lucky you are . Keep Canada free !
passwordthisass 4 years ago 2
You're joking, right? The highest taxes? The Netherlands and Sweden. No healthcare? What are all the hospitals and clinics for? No money for education? The cost per child in public schools in near $10,000/year. Prisons? Ever heard of China? Cuba? North Korea? I love Canada, but let's not get stupid!
drewas55 3 years ago
I was recently transferred from the US to Canada to work there. My daughter was born in the US. Her natural child birth cost $19,000US for 2 days in a hospital. My HMO paid all, but $500. In Canada, it would have cost the two nights stay ($25/day?). An economy cannot be competitive when a company or industry has to pay $300/worker per month for health care insurance and the taxpayer has to pay for those who cannot pay $19,000 to have a baby.
roachmobile 4 years ago
Wake up and smell the Morning-After pill. 20,000 dollars sounds like a bargain to me. If you can't afford it, you shouldn't be having kids.
ALFIEAJAPAN 2 years ago
ALFIEAJAPAN: I take it you are not a right to lifer.
Oh, and the cost to the employer has gone up 150% since my last post. So, how is this competitive for US industry?
roachmobile 2 years ago
while a public, universal system is best, your precious liberals slashed healthcare spending in 95 by about 23billion? I think was the number.. an aweful lot don't you agree?
one199 4 years ago
Again I was 12 in '95, what the Liberals did in '95 has nothing to do with my video. So what's with your preoccupation with bringing up things that don't even refer to my video?
scottyross00 4 years ago
I will tell you why. I think many of the things you criticize Harper for, the liberals have done or worse. You give this guy zero credit and I could make a million videos on what the liberals did and will probably do in this country and blast them. you are being a liberal mouthpiece. When conservatives do it its bad, when liberals do it its not worth mentioning. That's what I've gotten out of a lot of these videos.
one199 4 years ago
Liberals aren't in power! Go make videos about what the Liberals did three years ago, or 13 years ago, or 35 years ago, I won't, because I'm interested in what's happening right now. I am not a mouthpiece for anyone. I've criticized the Liberals and the NDP, I criticize Harper and the Conservatives more because I believe they are wrong. I provide arguments upon which you do not respond to, so I ask you, who's the mouthpiece? Me, who puts my opinion forth with reason or you, who merely accuses?
scottyross00 4 years ago
I do care about what is happening now, and we're in a minority parliament with libs having a significant voice/vote. I'm not a mouthpiece I've agreed with some of your statments but I swear some of the things you say are Liberal Party talking points.
one199 4 years ago
Okay, I don't even read the Liberal website or emails. I've said I've disagreed with the Liberal Party on various issues, I don't think you realize I disagree with the Liberals sending us to Afghanistan or for that matter the current Liberal position on Afghanistan. So you may say I merely quote Liberal talking points, yet you can't say I don't provide my own reasoning. For I know all talking points, Conservative and Liberal, do not provide any foundation.
scottyross00 4 years ago
thank you
one199 4 years ago
Private system is more effective, I don't even think it's debatable. People are interested in providing you with the best service since you pay them. Private sector does everything better than public. It's been proved over and over. Now private healthcare may cost more, but at least I would pay for something that I get. While the Canadian system is completely outrageous.
olegplanets 4 years ago
You say: "It's been proved over and over." When every expert on the issue says both have positives and negatives and cannot be compared. For Instance Canadians live longer.
scottyross00 4 years ago
Why do we have to compare our system to the US? All of Europe including the most socialist countries have a mix of public and private systems and the results speak for themselves - Canada is ranked near the bottom and Sweden, France, Switzerland, etc are ranked at the top.
Liberals don't necessarily care about results though (see Kyoto). It's the message they care about - regardless of how shitty our system is.
radically1 4 years ago
I don't care about the message. I don't care about Liberals. I don't care about Conservatives. I care about commodifying the human body by putting price tags on our body parts. We're not a sum of price tags. We're people. FYI we're more similar to the US then we are to Sweden, France, etc.
scottyross00 4 years ago
Please explain to me how moral it is that my cat can get an MRI, hip replacement surgery or cancer therapy tomorrow but I have to wait for it until my name is called on a list. I have friends and family that have passed away on said lists.
We lose thousands of Canadian trained doctors to the US every year.
radically1 4 years ago
All can be fixed within our system. I noted that changes must be made, but it doesn't require privatization. Gilles Duceppe's policy of introducing doctors into the allocation of funds process is one said policy.
scottyross00 4 years ago
So, maybe your friends should have paid to have their surgeries in the US. No?
ALFIEAJAPAN 2 years ago
Hey douchebag, go fuck yourself. People die on the lists - which is fine by you apparently - as long as your uptopian ideals are satisfied with socialized healthcare . Maybe they could afford to pay for it in the US if they hadn't spent 35 years paying half of their salaries so your welfare ass could enjoy the fruits of their labours via "free" healthcare. Move to cuba, fidel.
radically1 2 years ago
How many 34-year-old's are on IV antibiotics monthly, an inhaled antibiotics, have a port-a-cath to receive their medications (meds) and require O2, require chestphysio three-to-four times daily or more frequently and need to various other medications (not listed above) ? Being unable to access necessary healthcare in Canada is extremely frustrating.
lizzielou73 4 years ago
Canadian Medicare is ineffective. Doctors are incompetent or don't provide help, waiting lists are as long as hours and months and even after spending years little is done. I pay taxes and I can't get proper medical treatment. It doesn't surprise.
olegplanets 4 years ago
I couldn't agree more with you olegplanets. In my case, I have advanced lung disease, on O2 24/7, treated like a person with cystic fibrosis and have CF according to specialised testing done at Sick Kids, however I'm not allowed to attend a CF clinic and many specialists have turned me away and some refuse to see me. My illness is not by the "medical book. " It's frustrating to be so sick and not be getting the run around.
lizzielou73 4 years ago
Well a private system certainly isn't more effective (if thats what your suggesting). Look at the facts. The US, which is the only developed nation with a completely privatized health care system, spends 15% of their GDP on health care. This is significantly more than ANY developed country with public health care, and yet, it still results in a lower life expectancy, higher infant mortality rate, etc. Why do you suppose this is?
iamaloserandisuck 4 years ago
Lower life expectancy than where? Gambia?
Check your 'facts'.
ALFIEAJAPAN 2 years ago
No offense, but this comment sounds very dumb. I specifically said that the US has the lowest life expectancy of all developed countries and Gambia isn't a developed country. Obviously I'm not saying that the US has the lowest life expectation in the world, that kind of statement would be completely absurd.
iamaloserandisuck 2 years ago
USA system is failure .... Dennis Kucinich 2008....
aviomaster 4 years ago
Best health care system in the world? So be it. Now you must choose between higher taxes, or eliminating other government services.
vinbuik 4 years ago
The private health insurance system in the USA is a failure and is the cause of all of their problems.
1 in 6 americans do NOT have health insurance and SOL if they develop cancer or heart problems.
TeamSIckoEh 4 years ago