It's difficult because evolutionists immediately assume Christians don't know anything about science, haven't studied evolution, and can't think logically. When in reality, Christians are doctors, lawyers, scientists, along with all other jobs in society. But, no Christian is going to show up to a debate on Evolution with a Bible and keep saying "because the Bible says so". I'd LOVE to see a debate with a Christian scientist vs an Evolutionist. Evolution has NO evidence, so it'd be fun.
@DCussen There is no such thing as evolutionists, there are people who base their opinion on facts (these are the ones who know what evolution is, and they don't need faith to believe it because all the evidence proves it) and there are others who are either indoctrinated from childhood or are simply batshit crazy and don't waste time checking facts, because they start with the conclusion that the bible is true and there is no point looking at anything else. Have a nice day.
@DNAunion y=YljG_UrHHXw This video better explains the root-words and various translations that go along with Leviathon and Behemoth. Folks, God is real, he loves you, and he has a plan for your life. Approach him with an open heart. I guarantee it is the best decision you ever make. He is amazing.
The Bible says it was a fire-breathing monster. I'd be more than happy to quote you the verses if you want.
The Bible is ridiculous, scientifically refuted, immoral, and internally inconsistent. Someone has to be an idiot, deluded, brainwashed, or suffering from some other similar mental handicap in order to believe the stories in the Bible literally happened.
@DNAunion I used to be just like you, DNAunion. I assure you I haven't been brainwashed or mentally handicapped, but rather I've experienced firsthand the loving mercy and grace of Jesus Christ. I pray that you set your anger aside, and approach it from a neutral perspective. The fire-breathing issue has been addressed by several scientists, and there is more evidence for a flood than against it. Please don't bet your eternity on this! I'll be praying for you, friend. God bless!!
Tell us, dumbshit, why your God was too fucking stupid to give humankind His message in an unambiguous way?
How many Christianities are there today? Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Southern Baptist, Pentecostal, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Episcopalian, and so on and so on.
Jesus Fucking Christ your God is a fucking imbecile!
Hey, pinhead, tell us why Jesus condoned slavery, including owning foreigners as slaves for their entire life, even being able to will them to your children as property.
He didn't. He told slaves and masters that they should treat each other with respect and love - The ultimate love, would obviously be for the master to free his slaves, or forgive his debt, as Jesus commanded throughout the gospel. He didn't come as a political figure or a law-maker, he came to die for YOUR sins and save your life, as he did mine. I used to be full of anger and hate, but now I simply feel compassion and sympathy for the blind. I'll continue praying for you brother.
No, shit for brains, I'm talking about in the Old Testament, when YHWH told the Israelites they could own foreigners as slaves for the slaves entire lives, and even will slaves to one's children. Leviticus 25:1-2, 44-46
Jesus agreed with that. Or are you going to tell me that Jesus and God don't agree??? Does your God suffer from multiple personality disorder?? LOL!!!!
@DNAunion But you've received the answer to this question from countless other Christians... Google is littered with your history of angry remarks against people who do nothing more than try to save you from what they believe is eternal damnation. As is your profile on AtheistPassions. I pity your hard heart, sir, but God is real whether you like it or not. We know something you refuse to accept, and can feel nothing but compassion for you.
God is just pretend whether you like it or not. We know something you refuse to accept, because you are unable to think rationally. I feel sorry for dumbfucks like you.
@DNAunion Keep searching for that evidence of the God you so eagerly wish to disprove. Or save yourself the time, find a loud church on FIRE for God, and begin to live your life! If I'm wrong, I've had an awesome run and I love every minute of my life...but if you're wrong, not only did you live with unwarranted hatred in your heart, but you'll also spend eternity in Hell. Keep up the fight, my friend. Let me know if you ever find Jesus. God Bless, brother.
@DNAunion Your not being censored even if it's on another page, this one was falsely flagged: Hey, shit for brains, why don't you tell us about the woman who was turned into a pillar of salt! HAR HAR HAR!!! -DNAunion
I basically stopped posting on YouTube. There's just a slew of fucktarded religious nutjobs who are too stupid to understand logic, science, rational thought, etc. And I got tired of banging my head against a wall trying to discuss things with them, and concluded it is useless.
Now I spend my time doing other things, and I don't have to face palm every 5 minutes.
@TaurinB1 Popping in due to a sub notice, hell is absolutely impossible and needs to be magic to do so much as exist. "Save" us? Save us from something comparable to Hades? I'd be more scared of Hades on the basis that it is original and no one has dared to copy off of Greek mythology to support their scripture... right?
Yo, fuckwit, tell us about the man made from dirt, the woman made from one of his ribs, being fooled by a talking snake, into eating a cursed fruit, from a magical tre!!
@DNAunion I have seen your profile and you have clearly heard the gospel... I will not continue to preach to you. If your life has brought you the peace that my relationship with Jesus Christ has, then I am obviously wrong in my beliefs. I wish you happiness and prosperity in this short life...surely that is all you are after.
@compsciguy Deuteronomy 33:17 – His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns:
job 39:9 – Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?
Job 39:10 – Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?Psalm 22:21 – Save me from the lion’s mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.
Then obviously The Bible is not 100% fact. I don't believe a woman can be made from the rib of a man. I don't believe snakes can talk to people. I know that a bat is a mammal, and not a bird. Perhaps The Bible is nothing but metaphors? The Beast will rise from the sea? Maybe....a sea of politics? Who knows?
Turn away from what the world says about Jesus and seek him for yourself. Time is running out! Accept him into your life before it's too late. Revelation 3:20 "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me."
Let me ask you - is it possible that someone can understand both science and evolution very well and still disagree with evolution? Or do you believe that once you understand evolution you will compelled to accept it? If so,why do you feel that way?
@DNAunion Sounds like you're a member of a cult, my friend. When you are not open or willing to question what they teach you (evolution) you are in a cult.
Someone once said that to truly and completely understand an issue you must be able to argue it from the other side to the opposing side's satisfaction. So tell me - what are some of the claimed evidences AGAINST evolution? List as many as you know.
Read my profile if you are interested in seeing that I in fact started off rejecting evolution. But no, you'd rather just be a dick and assume false things about me.
@DNAunion Actually, you are correct and I apologize. Right after I posted that, I read your bio and thought, "Oops! this is not one of those teenaged boys 'I'm-pissed-off-at-my-parents-so-I-think-I'll-call-myself-an-atheist' that are so prevalent on YouTube. I respect your knowledge - admittedly a little less due to your use of profanity.
However, my journey was the reverse of yours. I accepted evolution until I studied the evidence. So tell me - what am I missing? What evidence convinced you?
The first was a prolonged experience with a lot amassing to convince me. It would take a long time, but I'd be willing to mention some major things.
The second - which was also chronologically second - had the first as one major factor, but that was not all since I was evolutionist without being an atheist for a while. The thing that actually put me over the fence and into the atheist camp was rereading the Bible from page 1.
@DNAunion "Convinced me of what: evolution or atheism?"
How about both. I'm very open to learn why people believe the things they do. If you have the time, I'm interested. Maybe start with the major things that convinced you about evolution. The arguments and evidence I've seen are unpersuasive to me but I'm very open to changing my mind again.
For evolution, one of the several big evidences for me was human chromosome 2 being the fusion product of two separpate ancestral ape chromosomes.
That it is the result of a fusion is undeniable: the only way to try to challenge it is to claim that the fusion occurred in the human genome, without any common ancestry or pre-humans. But the evidence argues against that.
@DNAunion Yes, me too. I saw this 2 days ago but didn't get time to respond. I find that to be a fairly persuasive argument and I am open to studying it. But with all the evidence I know against evolution, I would need a lot more than that one thing to convince me.
We find exactly what we would expect to find were human chromosome 2 the fusion product of 2 separate ancestral ape chromosomes, most similar to those of modern day chimps. The facts fit common descent, and common descent explains the facts perfectly, in a non ad-hoc manner.
@DNAunion "But what is the Creationist alternative?"
I don't know at this point - which I think is a reasonable answer. (I get it from atheists all the time.) I would definitely like to check into it more though. Do you know of any sources for me to look at?
That God - an all-powerful and all-knowing being, completely unrestrained by nature and history, and therefore able to make human chromosome 2 in any of trillions of possible ways imaginable - intentionally chose to make it with just the right properties that falsely suggest evolution and that would lead honest, truth-seeking people to believe the big lie? That would make God a deceiver.
Well we certainly wouldn't advocate that. I suspect that may be a false dichotomy though. There might be other explanations. But I am open to anything.
A second piece of evidence that is very convincing - that even the Intelligent Design Creationist Michael Behe admits is overwhelming evidence for human evolutionary origins - is the psi-beta-1 pseudogene.
A pseudogene is a nonfunctional gene or nonfunctional copy of a gene. Humans, chimps, and gorillass have - on the same chromosome, & in the same order along that same chromosome - a set of 6 beta-glogin genes: 5 functional & 1 (the same in all 3 species) nonfunctional.
1) Here is testimony from Ken MIller from the Dover, PA Intelligent Design Creationism trial of 2005/2006. It is the easiest to understand of the material I can provide.
htt p : //ncse. c om/files/pub/legal/kitzmill er / trial_transcripts/2005_0926_day1_am. p df
Forgot to mention, for the Ken Miller testimony, that is a one long PDF. To find the relevant material do a search on HEMOGLOBIN and start reading from the first hit.
@DNAunion Okay, I'll check it out. Thanks. Of course I don't agree with Ken Miller on a lot of things but at least he's smart enough to be a theist. Unfortunately, he's a Catholic and he thinks he has falsified irreducible complexity but it is clear he does not understand it.
It's also interesting than evolutionists claim ID is not testable so it's not science. Yet they claim to have tested it and falsified it. It's a joke really.
Here are sources that mention the shared set of disabling mutations in the human, chimp, and gorilla gene.
(a) “Only A Theory: Evolution and the Battle for America’s Soul”, Kenneth R. Miller, Viking, 2008 p101-103
(b) “Isolation and nucleotide sequence analysis of the beta-type globin pseudogene from human, gorilla and chimpanzee”. Chang LY, Slightom JL., J Mol Biol., Dec 25 1984; 180(4): 767-784
The best banding-pattern diagrams are in papers that require a subscription to. I did find this one, which shows that the banding pattern of human 2 is a dead ringer for the banding pattern the results from the head-to-head fusion of two chimp chromosomes.
ww w. indiana. e du/~ensiweb/lessons/chr.bk1. h tml
Finally, found a copy of another banding-pattern diagram that the public can view.
This diagram shows a banding-pattern comparison between human chromosome 2 and the result of fusing the two corresponding chromosomes in chimps, gorillas, and orangutans: we can see that the match with the chimp chromosomes is the best, as evolution would predict.
In humans, there is a 100-kb segment of DNA on the Y chromosome that was tranlocated from chromosome 1. Studies of chimps, bonobos, gorillas, gibbons, macaque, & proboscis monkey found that only 2 of those other species have it too. Guess which two ... yep, the chimp & bonobos.
Direct Evidence for the Homo-Pan Clade, Rainer Wimmer, Stefan Kirsch, Gudrun A. Rappold, & Werner Schempp, Chromosome Research 10: 55-61, 2002
@DNAunion Got any laboratory evidence for an increase in genetic information? I saw on your channel your response to someone else was "genetic duplication followed by divergence exon (or domain) shuffling." Now I'm no expert but that sounds like reshuffling of information (and probably loss) to me but not a gain of genetic information. If I could see that maybe I would become a true believer in evolution. That and transitional forms would have to be the rule, not the exception.
glad i'm not a scientist, it is a bit boring for me but i'm not a dickhead as to believe in some sky-daddy who hears your prayers. about time faith-heads faced the real world and let go of stone-age superstitions
There is absolutely NO ignorance in creationists. There is only Truth. We refuse evolution because it is not the Truth. Before you go making videos insulting creationists, do some research, hotshot. We refuse evolution because, once again, it is not the Truth. GOD is Truth. So get your heads and hearts out of the darkness. It is obvious that you are blind
@mophead2k2 Lol, creationist are not ignorant? really. I'm working on a PhD in biology and if you want me to ever consider creationism you need to answer this question, was you god drunk or just an idiot? What intelligent creator would ever put a genome, like the mitochondrial genome, that close to ROS that can cause mutagenesis, why not just make one genome? This is just one example where you need to answer was god an idiot or drunk? There is no way you can call him intelligent
@vnorthru Oh but dont you know? According to the creationists EVERYTHING was "perfect" BEFORE the sin of eve. Its all been downhill and effed up since then. See it WAS perfect in these organisms that we have no possible way of testing the existence of, and then it got bad.
@SidewaysGts Lol yup so we were all anaerobic before the fall since the mitochondria are needed for respiration. And this fall must have been 2bya when eukaryote engulfed the bacteria to obtain mitochondria. I find the creationist logic pathetic and does not align with any of the evidence we have, that might explain why it's laughed at.
I believe in God and gradualness of evolution and of all things. The big bang must have happened, but the question is what caused it and are thier many more parallel universes'
That evolution occurs is a fact but the thing is where does this changes go that can turn a bacteria into a fish or a fish into an amphibian and so. That IS the real debate and controversy. Also, if we evolved or share a common ancestor with a monkey, I need someone find me a "man-monkey" alive today.
Only someone completely ignorant about evolution would even think of saying that he needs to see a "man-monkey" alive today. Hey, humans also evolved from fish: do you expect there to be a "man-fish" alive today? Get educated.
@DNAunion Wow, this response of yours shows more bias and uneducation as well. You obviously dont understand how evolution is supposed to work either. If man DID evolved from an ape, there certainly needs to be some ape-man alive today. Or if not, stop with the whole evolutionary inventions and say that "you dont have an answer" and shifting the burden of proof to somebody else.
@DNAunion If you are also going to resort to ad-hominems that shows bias and slander and you are also so stupid to insult me and that doesnt prove a theory, EVOLUTIONIST TROLL.
Physically yes, we humans have traits of mammals and apes(physically talking). but we ARE humans. We are different from apes and all types of animal on earth.
You also dont understand the problem with the thing I am telling you and you are only serving to your own antireligious bias.
Damn you're stupid. You have to add mother fucking CONTEXT to your mother fucking posts in order for someone to know what the fuck you are talking about ... you mother fucking retard
@DNAunion translation: ad-hominem attack and appeal to emotion. YOU ARE THE ONE THAT IS STUPID. All you have is: "La la la la la la. I cant hear you. You are an ape. bla bla bla bla..........."
@DNAunion I don't see why these ignoramus religious dicks have such a hard time just accepting facts like that. Oh wait, it is obvious. Their ignoramus, dicks! They aren't necessarily stupid, but some of their actions and words are incredibly stupid i.e. Ray Comfort the Banana Man.
@DNAunion No we are not apes, DNAunion, we are humans, we humans differ GREATLY in many ways from animals like talk, tradition, culture, and mental capacity. The human brain is VERY different from those of the animals. The information that the human brain would fill 20,000,000. Man is more complicated and different that anything else in the universe. We have concience and a concept of the past, present and future.
@DNAunion prove that a creationist said thatç which i heavily doubt or you are lying yourself. You obviously got a lot of anti-religious bias yourself.
It wasn't an "evolutionist" who first officially recognized and published the fact that humans are animals: it was a Creationist, Carl von Linne, a.k.a. Carolus Linnaeus. He classified humans as mammals, and more restrictively, as primates; in fact, he was the one who gave us our unique species name: Homo sapiens.
Linnaeus died in 1778: Darwin wasn't even born until 1809, so Darwinism could not have played any role in the scientific recognition that humans are animals. In fact, neither could Lamarckian evolution because Larmarck did not write his first views on evolution until the year 1800: 22 years after Linnaeus died.
How this is so true. The reason science is divided into different disciplines is because there is not way you can be an expert in all areas of science. Even in disciplines, such as biology for example, there are many subcategories such as genetics, cell biology, ecology, developmental etc. And even in the subcategories such as genetics, scientist specialize, such as mtDNA, epigenetics, transcription/translation etc..
How this is so true. The reason science is divided into different disciplines is because there is not way you can be an expert in all areas of science. Even in disciplines, such as biology for example, there are many subcategories such as genetics, cell biology, ecology, developmental etc. And even in the subcategories such as genetics, scientist specialize, such as mtDNA, epigenetics, transcription/translation etc..
Many struggle to answer with credibility key questions about God and the Bible. But God is most definitely real. If you doubt it, read 'the attempted murder of God' - A critical book at a critical time, it reveals the secrets of science that comprehensively demolish the theory of Evolution and provides scientific proof for God - a scientific certainty kept hidden from the world that in this critical time in history can now be revealed.
Ever time I see a picture of that charlatan Ken Ham, it occurs to me how ironic it is that he does not believe we share a common ancestor with the other primates because he looks like the missing link.
i don't understand why you can't be a creationist and still believe in evolution. Obviously evolution exists in the simply ability for animals to adapt to their environment overtime. However, that doesn't mean we all originated from some primordial soup.
to me the idea that there was an explosion and everything evolved from nothing, is harder to believe than the possibility of a God who created us.
You did write it, asshole. A simple search (if you aren't too retarded to do that!) will prove it.
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i think you never were a catholic, ... i think the problem is that you TOUGHT you were catholic, you tought you believe in something, but no. ... and thats why you stopped believing in catholic church and then became an atheist or believing in science.
Begun[10] says that these primates flourished in Eurasia and that the lineage leading to the African apes and humans— including Dryopithecus—migrated south from Europe or Western Asia into Africa.
I never claimed that the informatin PROVED anything.
You asked where apes came from, and I gave an answer to your question. If you think the information I provided is wrong, then show exactly why it is wrong.
2) PROVES there is no God who had a hand in it? Who said it PROVES anything?
The info I gave also doesn't PROVE that there are no magical unicorns, leprechauns, or Santa Clauses who played a role in it. That's not the purpose of what I wrote.
Now, if you want to proppose that God, magical unicorns, leprechauns, or Santa did play a role in it, then you need to provide evidence supporting such a claim. Where is it?
The surviving tropical population, which is seen most completely in the upper Eocene and lowermost Oligocene fossil beds of the Fayum depression southwest of Cairo, gave rise to all living primates—lemurs of Madagascar, lorises of Southeast Asia, galagos or "bush babies" of Africa, and the anthropoids; platyrrhines or New World monkeys, and catarrhines or Old World monkeys and the great apes and humans.
@HEC01 You are forgetting a key point in evolution is timescale things evolve over millions of years so if you having trouble imagining how bacteria turn into a fish imagine a bacterium turning into a a slighty more complictaed bacterium over and over till it reaches the complexity of a fish millions of years later. As to why noone can find a 'man-monkey' is simple. The short awnser is they evolved into us and we can tell they have exsisted by looking at fossils of them.
Everything you said about the Big Bang and Evolution is incorrect. The universe was not created with the universe from nothing; the Big Bang merely explains the current state of the universe. If you are interested in these things, I can direct you to some good stuff that is easy to understand. Let me know.
Also, humans have never created anything that actually qualifies as artifical intelligence.
People thinks that religion is just something stupid to believe, is not.There could not be order in the world without religion, and it is true. You can argue but people will agree with this, because you cant kill your son because you are hungry, or because he made you angry. (some people have done it, but they are in jail)Last thing, i am 14 year old, just to the guy who said that i was 27 year old. I would beat you so easy, but in a fair arena. Not here, thanks, no more comments.(waste of time)
do you really know why debating with creationists is so difficult??, is because we love in what we believe. Im 14 year old and you wont change my mind in any way.
A very pertinent quote that someone brought to my attention a few days ago.
Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon — it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory.
How civilized of you scientist, is just something bothering all the scientist?, i never heard a creationist calling a scientist an animal, or a bad word such as " creationist= idiots ", i do not know really, whats your problem.
Wow, how much time did you waste trying to find that? tell me, do you read many books??? you know why? because you have to believe in something, i think you never were a catholic, im not catholic, im christian, but i think the problem is that you TOUGHT you were catholic, you tought you believe in something, but no. You never knew Jesus as you really needed, and thats why you stopped believing in catholic church and then became an atheist or believing in science. People say they believe, idk.
Where the fuck did you stupid 14 year old brain come up with the idea that I said I was Catholic?
As long as we are making up statements and stuffing them into the other's mouth ...
I was sickened when you said earlier that your dad fucked you up the ass, pulled his dick out just before he organisms, and spurted it all over your face ... and licked it all off.
You only think you are religious. In truth, you are just retarded, and not smart enough to undestand the world. Because so much is missing in your brain, you fill it in with stupid crap instead of worthy science. Then your retardeness leads you to think you believe in God, which you don't really.
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Einstein believed in god indeed, he tried to make a theory about how god made everything,then he died. If he were not dead then i think the evolution theory would be erased
Ok, Einstein was Jewish and thats why he moved from German to USA. Hitler was killing Jewish if you did not know. Do you think he was going to say to everybody that he was Jewish?? He was a scientist, and saying that he believed in god could ruin his career.
Peacefully i told you that i dont want to comment anymore, but you still replying, and i dont want to receive more emails. You did not acepted my comment and you got angry because you knew that i was talking with the true and now that i dont want to comment anymore you reply me with bad words. Please, stop it.
Gentlemen, in first place Hitler was NOT a catholic, he believed he was god, that the German people were gods. Now, everyone has the right to write a comment. You call yourselves a scientist, that you are the most advanced animal, but anyways you call other people "fool", "stupid" N0oB" or whatever you can imagine. My problem is that some people write "childish " messages to my email, such as 7 year old boy, or if i have a live account.
I do NOT see the advance in nature that you say we have.
I love you guys :)
TaurinB1 1 month ago
It's difficult because evolutionists immediately assume Christians don't know anything about science, haven't studied evolution, and can't think logically. When in reality, Christians are doctors, lawyers, scientists, along with all other jobs in society. But, no Christian is going to show up to a debate on Evolution with a Bible and keep saying "because the Bible says so". I'd LOVE to see a debate with a Christian scientist vs an Evolutionist. Evolution has NO evidence, so it'd be fun.
DCussen 2 months ago
@DCussen There is no such thing as evolutionists, there are people who base their opinion on facts (these are the ones who know what evolution is, and they don't need faith to believe it because all the evidence proves it) and there are others who are either indoctrinated from childhood or are simply batshit crazy and don't waste time checking facts, because they start with the conclusion that the bible is true and there is no point looking at anything else. Have a nice day.
lanthasmj 2 months ago
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ShowsomeFury 4 months ago
Evolution doesn't disprove God. Stop arguing about it.
compsciguy 11 months ago
@compsciguy
Evolution - and lots of other science, such as geology and cosmology - disproves the God of the Bible.
DNAunion 11 months ago
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ShowsomeFury 4 months ago
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ShowsomeFury 4 months ago
You still can't prove that unicorns don't exist . Wheres your theory now...
DrSpooglemon 11 months ago
@DrSpooglemon
Noone believes in unicorns. It's not in the Bible. Just saying. Nice try, though
compsciguy 11 months ago
@compsciguy
Unicorns are in the KJV of the Bible.
And all versions of the Bible have a fire-breathing monster.
DNAunion 11 months ago
@DNAunion y=YljG_UrHHXw This video better explains the root-words and various translations that go along with Leviathon and Behemoth. Folks, God is real, he loves you, and he has a plan for your life. Approach him with an open heart. I guarantee it is the best decision you ever make. He is amazing.
TaurinB1 1 month ago
@TaurinB1
The Bible says it was a fire-breathing monster. I'd be more than happy to quote you the verses if you want.
The Bible is ridiculous, scientifically refuted, immoral, and internally inconsistent. Someone has to be an idiot, deluded, brainwashed, or suffering from some other similar mental handicap in order to believe the stories in the Bible literally happened.
DNAunion 1 month ago
@DNAunion I used to be just like you, DNAunion. I assure you I haven't been brainwashed or mentally handicapped, but rather I've experienced firsthand the loving mercy and grace of Jesus Christ. I pray that you set your anger aside, and approach it from a neutral perspective. The fire-breathing issue has been addressed by several scientists, and there is more evidence for a flood than against it. Please don't bet your eternity on this! I'll be praying for you, friend. God bless!!
TaurinB1 1 month ago
@TaurinB1
I used to be just like you, TaurnB1. Then I started using my brain. Now I am no longer an idiot, like you are.
Grow up. Time for you to stop believing in your imaginary friends.
PS: You are a fucktard if you believe there was a fire-breathing monster.
DNAunion 1 month ago
@TaurinB1
Tell us, fucktard. Why was Jesus so fucking stupid as to think that mental pathologies were due to demon possession?
DNAunion 1 month ago
@TaurinB1
Tell us, dumbshit, why your God was too fucking stupid to give humankind His message in an unambiguous way?
How many Christianities are there today? Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Southern Baptist, Pentecostal, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Episcopalian, and so on and so on.
Jesus Fucking Christ your God is a fucking imbecile!
DNAunion 1 month ago
@TaurinB1
Hey, pinhead, tell us why Jesus condoned slavery, including owning foreigners as slaves for their entire life, even being able to will them to your children as property.
DNAunion 1 month ago
He didn't. He told slaves and masters that they should treat each other with respect and love - The ultimate love, would obviously be for the master to free his slaves, or forgive his debt, as Jesus commanded throughout the gospel. He didn't come as a political figure or a law-maker, he came to die for YOUR sins and save your life, as he did mine. I used to be full of anger and hate, but now I simply feel compassion and sympathy for the blind. I'll continue praying for you brother.
TaurinB1 1 month ago
@TaurinB1
No, shit for brains, I'm talking about in the Old Testament, when YHWH told the Israelites they could own foreigners as slaves for the slaves entire lives, and even will slaves to one's children. Leviticus 25:1-2, 44-46
Jesus agreed with that. Or are you going to tell me that Jesus and God don't agree??? Does your God suffer from multiple personality disorder?? LOL!!!!
You're retarded.
DNAunion 1 month ago
@DNAunion But you've received the answer to this question from countless other Christians... Google is littered with your history of angry remarks against people who do nothing more than try to save you from what they believe is eternal damnation. As is your profile on AtheistPassions. I pity your hard heart, sir, but God is real whether you like it or not. We know something you refuse to accept, and can feel nothing but compassion for you.
TaurinB1 1 month ago
@TaurinB1
I don't need a bunch fucking retards like you to save me from your imaginary angry big daddy in the sky.
Try to get in touch with reality some day.
DNAunion 1 month ago
@TaurinB1
God is just pretend whether you like it or not. We know something you refuse to accept, because you are unable to think rationally. I feel sorry for dumbfucks like you.
DNAunion 1 month ago
@DNAunion Keep searching for that evidence of the God you so eagerly wish to disprove. Or save yourself the time, find a loud church on FIRE for God, and begin to live your life! If I'm wrong, I've had an awesome run and I love every minute of my life...but if you're wrong, not only did you live with unwarranted hatred in your heart, but you'll also spend eternity in Hell. Keep up the fight, my friend. Let me know if you ever find Jesus. God Bless, brother.
TaurinB1 1 month ago
@TaurinB1
Jesus fucking Christ! The God dammed Pascal's Wager?
Shut the fuck up you drooling idiot.
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@TaurinB1
Hey, shit for brains, why don't you tell us about the woman who was turned into a pillar of salt! HAR HAR HAR!!!
DNAunion 1 month ago
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Nverdis 1 month ago
@TaurinB1
Hey, fucktard, why was your God powerless against chariots that were made of iron???? ROTFLAMO!
DNAunion 1 month ago
@DNAunion More importantly, why would he feel threatened by some subordinate angel that turned against him?
Nverdis 1 month ago
@Nverdis
I basically stopped posting on YouTube. There's just a slew of fucktarded religious nutjobs who are too stupid to understand logic, science, rational thought, etc. And I got tired of banging my head against a wall trying to discuss things with them, and concluded it is useless.
Now I spend my time doing other things, and I don't have to face palm every 5 minutes.
DNAunion 1 month ago
@TaurinB1 Popping in due to a sub notice, hell is absolutely impossible and needs to be magic to do so much as exist. "Save" us? Save us from something comparable to Hades? I'd be more scared of Hades on the basis that it is original and no one has dared to copy off of Greek mythology to support their scripture... right?
Nverdis 1 month ago
@TaurinB1
Yo, fuckwit, tell us about the man made from dirt, the woman made from one of his ribs, being fooled by a talking snake, into eating a cursed fruit, from a magical tre!!
God dam you are one stupid mother fucker!
DNAunion 1 month ago
@DNAunion Why do you resort to crude and angry personal attacks, when I have not attacked you?
TaurinB1 1 month ago
@TaurinB1
Why do you resort to being stupid?
DNAunion 1 month ago
@DNAunion I have seen your profile and you have clearly heard the gospel... I will not continue to preach to you. If your life has brought you the peace that my relationship with Jesus Christ has, then I am obviously wrong in my beliefs. I wish you happiness and prosperity in this short life...surely that is all you are after.
TaurinB1 1 month ago
@TaurinB1
If your life has brought you the peace that my relationship with the Supreme Council of Magical Invisible Pink Flying Unicorns has brought me ...
DNAunion 1 month ago
@compsciguy Deuteronomy 33:17 – His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns:
job 39:9 – Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?
Job 39:10 – Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?Psalm 22:21 – Save me from the lion’s mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.
robtay1963 4 months ago
@robtay1963
Then obviously The Bible is not 100% fact. I don't believe a woman can be made from the rib of a man. I don't believe snakes can talk to people. I know that a bat is a mammal, and not a bird. Perhaps The Bible is nothing but metaphors? The Beast will rise from the sea? Maybe....a sea of politics? Who knows?
compsciguy 4 months ago
@compsciguy exactly!
Narftaxaku200 2 months ago
Turn away from what the world says about Jesus and seek him for yourself. Time is running out! Accept him into your life before it's too late. Revelation 3:20 "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me."
Chrismarr2 1 year ago
@Chrismarr2
Personally, I don't want Jesus coming into me ... but hey, I'm not anti-gay so if that's what you want ...
DNAunion 1 year ago
Let me ask you - is it possible that someone can understand both science and evolution very well and still disagree with evolution? Or do you believe that once you understand evolution you will compelled to accept it? If so,why do you feel that way?
bestvalue 1 year ago
@bestvalue
There are only 2 reasons people can reject evolution today:
1) Ignorance of the relevant science
2) Obstinately clinging to outdated religious beliefs
And the two are NOT mutually exclusive!
DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion Sounds like you're a member of a cult, my friend. When you are not open or willing to question what they teach you (evolution) you are in a cult.
Someone once said that to truly and completely understand an issue you must be able to argue it from the other side to the opposing side's satisfaction. So tell me - what are some of the claimed evidences AGAINST evolution? List as many as you know.
bestvalue 1 year ago
@bestvalue
Sounds like you are stupid, my friend.
Read my profile if you are interested in seeing that I in fact started off rejecting evolution. But no, you'd rather just be a dick and assume false things about me.
DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion Actually, you are correct and I apologize. Right after I posted that, I read your bio and thought, "Oops! this is not one of those teenaged boys 'I'm-pissed-off-at-my-parents-so-I-think-I'll-call-myself-an-atheist' that are so prevalent on YouTube. I respect your knowledge - admittedly a little less due to your use of profanity.
However, my journey was the reverse of yours. I accepted evolution until I studied the evidence. So tell me - what am I missing? What evidence convinced you?
bestvalue 1 year ago
@bestvalue
Convinced me of what: evolution or atheism?
The first was a prolonged experience with a lot amassing to convince me. It would take a long time, but I'd be willing to mention some major things.
The second - which was also chronologically second - had the first as one major factor, but that was not all since I was evolutionist without being an atheist for a while. The thing that actually put me over the fence and into the atheist camp was rereading the Bible from page 1.
DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion "Convinced me of what: evolution or atheism?"
How about both. I'm very open to learn why people believe the things they do. If you have the time, I'm interested. Maybe start with the major things that convinced you about evolution. The arguments and evidence I've seen are unpersuasive to me but I'm very open to changing my mind again.
bestvalue 1 year ago
@bestvalue
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Sorry it took so long, but I've been busy.
For evolution, one of the several big evidences for me was human chromosome 2 being the fusion product of two separpate ancestral ape chromosomes.
That it is the result of a fusion is undeniable: the only way to try to challenge it is to claim that the fusion occurred in the human genome, without any common ancestry or pre-humans. But the evidence argues against that.
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DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion Yes, me too. I saw this 2 days ago but didn't get time to respond. I find that to be a fairly persuasive argument and I am open to studying it. But with all the evidence I know against evolution, I would need a lot more than that one thing to convince me.
bestvalue 1 year ago
@bestvalue
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We find exactly what we would expect to find were human chromosome 2 the fusion product of 2 separate ancestral ape chromosomes, most similar to those of modern day chimps. The facts fit common descent, and common descent explains the facts perfectly, in a non ad-hoc manner.
But what is the Creationist alternative? ...
DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion "But what is the Creationist alternative?"
I don't know at this point - which I think is a reasonable answer. (I get it from atheists all the time.) I would definitely like to check into it more though. Do you know of any sources for me to look at?
bestvalue 1 year ago
@DNAunion I'm almost afraid to ask but what is your opinion on this?
creation. com/human-ape-fused-chromosomes-paradigm
bestvalue 1 year ago
@bestvalue
2 of 2
But what is the Creationist altnerative???
That God - an all-powerful and all-knowing being, completely unrestrained by nature and history, and therefore able to make human chromosome 2 in any of trillions of possible ways imaginable - intentionally chose to make it with just the right properties that falsely suggest evolution and that would lead honest, truth-seeking people to believe the big lie? That would make God a deceiver.
DNAunion 1 year ago
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@DNAunion "That would make God a deceiver."
Well we certainly wouldn't advocate that. I suspect that may be a false dichotomy though. There might be other explanations. But I am open to anything.
bestvalue 1 year ago
@bestvalue
A second piece of evidence that is very convincing - that even the Intelligent Design Creationist Michael Behe admits is overwhelming evidence for human evolutionary origins - is the psi-beta-1 pseudogene.
A pseudogene is a nonfunctional gene or nonfunctional copy of a gene. Humans, chimps, and gorillass have - on the same chromosome, & in the same order along that same chromosome - a set of 6 beta-glogin genes: 5 functional & 1 (the same in all 3 species) nonfunctional.
DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion Okay, sounds good so far.
bestvalue 1 year ago
@bestvalue
The biggest "coincidence" is that the same set of 4 disabling mutations is found in the psi-beta-1 pseudogene of humans, chimps, and gorillas.
Another very intersting fact is that the same set of mutations is NOT found in other primates or other mammals.
Common ancestry perfectly explains all of the psi-beta-1 pseudogene facts.
But again, why would a God choose to do things in exactly the ways that mimick the alleged lie of evolution? Is He The Great Deceiver?
DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion Where would I found out more information about this? I know I can Google it but I figured you might have some sources I could look at.
BTW - thanks for being reasonable and actually providing evidence rather than ad hominem attacks. Refreshing from an atheist (no offense).
bestvalue 1 year ago
@bestvalue
1) Here is testimony from Ken MIller from the Dover, PA Intelligent Design Creationism trial of 2005/2006. It is the easiest to understand of the material I can provide.
htt p : //ncse. c om/files/pub/legal/kitzmill er / trial_transcripts/2005_0926_day1_am. p df
DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion
Forgot to mention, for the Ken Miller testimony, that is a one long PDF. To find the relevant material do a search on HEMOGLOBIN and start reading from the first hit.
DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion Okay, I'll check it out. Thanks. Of course I don't agree with Ken Miller on a lot of things but at least he's smart enough to be a theist. Unfortunately, he's a Catholic and he thinks he has falsified irreducible complexity but it is clear he does not understand it.
It's also interesting than evolutionists claim ID is not testable so it's not science. Yet they claim to have tested it and falsified it. It's a joke really.
bestvalue 1 year ago
@bestvalue
For the psi-beta-1 pseudogene evidence ...
Here are sources that mention the shared set of disabling mutations in the human, chimp, and gorilla gene.
(a) “Only A Theory: Evolution and the Battle for America’s Soul”, Kenneth R. Miller, Viking, 2008 p101-103
(b) “Isolation and nucleotide sequence analysis of the beta-type globin pseudogene from human, gorilla and chimpanzee”. Chang LY, Slightom JL., J Mol Biol., Dec 25 1984; 180(4): 767-784
DNAunion 1 year ago
@bestvalue
Also, sequence alignments of the psi-beta-1 pseudogene confirm standard primate phylogeny:
(a) “Molecular evolution of the psi-eta-globin gene locus: Gibbon phylogeny and the hominoid slowdown”, 10.Bailey WJ, Fitch DHA, Tagle DA, Czelusniak J, Slightom JL, Goodman M, Mol Biol Evol 1991, 8:155-184
DNAunion 1 year ago
@bestvalue
The best banding-pattern diagrams are in papers that require a subscription to. I did find this one, which shows that the banding pattern of human 2 is a dead ringer for the banding pattern the results from the head-to-head fusion of two chimp chromosomes.
ww w. indiana. e du/~ensiweb/lessons/chr.bk1. h tml
DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion Cool. Thanks. :^D
bestvalue 1 year ago
@bestvalue
Finally, found a copy of another banding-pattern diagram that the public can view.
This diagram shows a banding-pattern comparison between human chromosome 2 and the result of fusing the two corresponding chromosomes in chimps, gorillas, and orangutans: we can see that the match with the chimp chromosomes is the best, as evolution would predict.
ww w. gate. net/~rwms/hum_ape_chrom. h tml
DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion Wow, you're really going to a lot of trouble for little old me. Thanks again.
bestvalue 1 year ago
@bestvalue
3) A third piece of chromosomal/genetic evidence.
In humans, there is a 100-kb segment of DNA on the Y chromosome that was tranlocated from chromosome 1. Studies of chimps, bonobos, gorillas, gibbons, macaque, & proboscis monkey found that only 2 of those other species have it too. Guess which two ... yep, the chimp & bonobos.
Direct Evidence for the Homo-Pan Clade, Rainer Wimmer, Stefan Kirsch, Gudrun A. Rappold, & Werner Schempp, Chromosome Research 10: 55-61, 2002
DNAunion 1 year ago
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@DNAunion Got any laboratory evidence for an increase in genetic information? I saw on your channel your response to someone else was "genetic duplication followed by divergence exon (or domain) shuffling." Now I'm no expert but that sounds like reshuffling of information (and probably loss) to me but not a gain of genetic information. If I could see that maybe I would become a true believer in evolution. That and transitional forms would have to be the rule, not the exception.
bestvalue 1 year ago
@bestvalue
I can go into more detail on each of these:
If the two corresponding chimps chromosomes are fused head-to-head:
1) The location of the two centromeres matches the location of those on human chromosome 2 (one of ours has since become disabled).
2) The banding pattern is nearly identical to that of human chromosome 2 (but the match is not as good if gorilla or orangutan chromos are fused).
3) Based on probability, evolution is the more probable explanation.
DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion Do we have any idea what causes the banding pattern?
bestvalue 1 year ago
@bestvalue
The chromosomal banding patterns I mentioned are done by G-banding (a.k.a. giesma-banding): giesma stains A-T-rich regions of the chromosomes.
DNAunion 1 year ago
glad i'm not a scientist, it is a bit boring for me but i'm not a dickhead as to believe in some sky-daddy who hears your prayers. about time faith-heads faced the real world and let go of stone-age superstitions
fourbabies1 1 year ago
There is absolutely NO ignorance in creationists. There is only Truth. We refuse evolution because it is not the Truth. Before you go making videos insulting creationists, do some research, hotshot. We refuse evolution because, once again, it is not the Truth. GOD is Truth. So get your heads and hearts out of the darkness. It is obvious that you are blind
mophead2k2 1 year ago
@mophead2k2
God is Truth? Funny how you religious nuts misuse words like "truth".
DNAunion 1 year ago
@mophead2k2 lmao umadbro? denial is the first stage...then anger.... hopefully ull get to acceptance soon
BladedArrowTBGamer 1 year ago
@mophead2k2 Lol, creationist are not ignorant? really. I'm working on a PhD in biology and if you want me to ever consider creationism you need to answer this question, was you god drunk or just an idiot? What intelligent creator would ever put a genome, like the mitochondrial genome, that close to ROS that can cause mutagenesis, why not just make one genome? This is just one example where you need to answer was god an idiot or drunk? There is no way you can call him intelligent
vnorthru 1 year ago
@vnorthru Oh but dont you know? According to the creationists EVERYTHING was "perfect" BEFORE the sin of eve. Its all been downhill and effed up since then. See it WAS perfect in these organisms that we have no possible way of testing the existence of, and then it got bad.
SidewaysGts 1 year ago
@SidewaysGts Lol yup so we were all anaerobic before the fall since the mitochondria are needed for respiration. And this fall must have been 2bya when eukaryote engulfed the bacteria to obtain mitochondria. I find the creationist logic pathetic and does not align with any of the evidence we have, that might explain why it's laughed at.
vnorthru 1 year ago
@vnorthru Evidence? Psh. thats just speculation. Evolution, its a world wide conspiracy! spread the word. hah
SidewaysGts 1 year ago
@mophead2k2 Where is the evidence for god (I assume by this you mean scripture and again I am assuming you are a christian) being truth?
psychobartus 1 year ago
I believe in God and gradualness of evolution and of all things. The big bang must have happened, but the question is what caused it and are thier many more parallel universes'
FaerieLinn 1 year ago
I am a creationist yet these are not the arguments I present at all.
ryobakura1 1 year ago
That evolution occurs is a fact but the thing is where does this changes go that can turn a bacteria into a fish or a fish into an amphibian and so. That IS the real debate and controversy. Also, if we evolved or share a common ancestor with a monkey, I need someone find me a "man-monkey" alive today.
HEC01 1 year ago
@HEC01
Only someone completely ignorant about evolution would even think of saying that he needs to see a "man-monkey" alive today. Hey, humans also evolved from fish: do you expect there to be a "man-fish" alive today? Get educated.
DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion Wow, this response of yours shows more bias and uneducation as well. You obviously dont understand how evolution is supposed to work either. If man DID evolved from an ape, there certainly needs to be some ape-man alive today. Or if not, stop with the whole evolutionary inventions and say that "you dont have an answer" and shifting the burden of proof to somebody else.
HEC01 1 year ago
@HEC01
Your ignorance is astounding.
1. YOU are an ape-man. You are also an mammal-man. You are also a vertebrate-man.
2. You are so stupid that you don't know the difference between an ape and a monkey.
Typical scientifically retarded, religious nutjob.
DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion If you are also going to resort to ad-hominems that shows bias and slander and you are also so stupid to insult me and that doesnt prove a theory, EVOLUTIONIST TROLL.
Physically yes, we humans have traits of mammals and apes(physically talking). but we ARE humans. We are different from apes and all types of animal on earth.
You also dont understand the problem with the thing I am telling you and you are only serving to your own antireligious bias.
HEC01 1 year ago
@HEC01
I only use ad homs when people deserve it: you are scientifically ignorant. If you don't like that fact, then change it.
DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion I dont believe you. And I dont think that I am that scientifically that ignorant.
HEC01 1 year ago
@HEC01
You don't believe me? ABOUT WHAT?
Damn you're stupid. You have to add mother fucking CONTEXT to your mother fucking posts in order for someone to know what the fuck you are talking about ... you mother fucking retard
DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion translation: ad-hominem attack and appeal to emotion. YOU ARE THE ONE THAT IS STUPID. All you have is: "La la la la la la. I cant hear you. You are an ape. bla bla bla bla..........."
HEC01 1 year ago
@HEC01
Humans are apes: we are great apes.
Check any up-to-date science (not religious) source. Or, you can continue make an ignorant ass out of yourself.
DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion I don't see why these ignoramus religious dicks have such a hard time just accepting facts like that. Oh wait, it is obvious. Their ignoramus, dicks! They aren't necessarily stupid, but some of their actions and words are incredibly stupid i.e. Ray Comfort the Banana Man.
supersmash43 1 year ago
@HEC01
Um, humans ARE apes. See, you are scientifically ignorant, just as I said.
You really should learn something about the science you claim to be refuting, don't you think
DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion No we are not apes, DNAunion, we are humans, we humans differ GREATLY in many ways from animals like talk, tradition, culture, and mental capacity. The human brain is VERY different from those of the animals. The information that the human brain would fill 20,000,000. Man is more complicated and different that anything else in the universe. We have concience and a concept of the past, present and future.
HEC01 1 year ago
@HEC01
Humans ARE apes: we are great apes. Do yourself a favor and look into it ... idiot.
PS: What you WANT to be true does not change facts. You ARE an ape! :P
DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion so you are saying that I should behave like an animal? "Oh, you are an ape, so therefore you must behave like one"
HEC01 1 year ago
@HEC01
When you behave like a human, you ARE behaving like an animal ... since humans ARE animals. DUH!
DNAunion 1 year ago
@HEC01, yes, go act like an animal. It shouldn't be to difficult -- you already have the IQ of one.
Houshalter 1 year ago
@Houshalter And you as well for insult me, elitist
HEC01 1 year ago
@HEC01, "elitist"?!? That's a new one.
Houshalter 1 year ago
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@HEC01
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"Animals are multicellular, heterotophic eukaryotes with tissues the develop from embryonic layers"
(Biology: Eighth Edition, Campbell & Reece, Pearson / Benjamin Cummings, 2008, p654)
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So, which part of that definition does not fit humans?
DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion by 20,000,000 i meant books.
HEC01 1 year ago
@HEC01
Humans are animals, you scientifically ignorant moron.
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"Animals are multicellular, heterotophic eukaryotes with tissues the develop from embryonic layers"
(Biology: Eighth Edition, Campbell & Reece, Pearson / Benjamin Cummings, 2008, p654)
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And it was a Creationist who formally classified humans as animals: as primates, as a matter of fact.
DNAunion 1 year ago
@DNAunion prove that a creationist said thatç which i heavily doubt or you are lying yourself. You obviously got a lot of anti-religious bias yourself.
HEC01 1 year ago
@HEC01
It wasn't an "evolutionist" who first officially recognized and published the fact that humans are animals: it was a Creationist, Carl von Linne, a.k.a. Carolus Linnaeus. He classified humans as mammals, and more restrictively, as primates; in fact, he was the one who gave us our unique species name: Homo sapiens.
DNAunion 1 year ago
@HEC01
Linnaeus died in 1778: Darwin wasn't even born until 1809, so Darwinism could not have played any role in the scientific recognition that humans are animals. In fact, neither could Lamarckian evolution because Larmarck did not write his first views on evolution until the year 1800: 22 years after Linnaeus died.
DNAunion 1 year ago
How this is so true. The reason science is divided into different disciplines is because there is not way you can be an expert in all areas of science. Even in disciplines, such as biology for example, there are many subcategories such as genetics, cell biology, ecology, developmental etc. And even in the subcategories such as genetics, scientist specialize, such as mtDNA, epigenetics, transcription/translation etc..
vnorthru 1 year ago
How this is so true. The reason science is divided into different disciplines is because there is not way you can be an expert in all areas of science. Even in disciplines, such as biology for example, there are many subcategories such as genetics, cell biology, ecology, developmental etc. And even in the subcategories such as genetics, scientist specialize, such as mtDNA, epigenetics, transcription/translation etc..
vnorthru 1 year ago
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Many struggle to answer with credibility key questions about God and the Bible. But God is most definitely real. If you doubt it, read 'the attempted murder of God' - A critical book at a critical time, it reveals the secrets of science that comprehensively demolish the theory of Evolution and provides scientific proof for God - a scientific certainty kept hidden from the world that in this critical time in history can now be revealed.
byScrooby 2 years ago
Ever time I see a picture of that charlatan Ken Ham, it occurs to me how ironic it is that he does not believe we share a common ancestor with the other primates because he looks like the missing link.
jimbrown257 2 years ago 16
Haha, Jim, excactly my thoughts :P
Korkzor 1 year ago
@jimbrown257
That must be the most epic Comment I've seen in a long Time!!
AdrianvonZiegler 3 months ago
i don't understand why you can't be a creationist and still believe in evolution. Obviously evolution exists in the simply ability for animals to adapt to their environment overtime. However, that doesn't mean we all originated from some primordial soup.
to me the idea that there was an explosion and everything evolved from nothing, is harder to believe than the possibility of a God who created us.
Example: We created Artificial Intelligence.
ShowsomeFury 2 years ago
Who said there was an explosion?
Stop reading Creationists bullshit and start reading science.
DNAunion 2 years ago
ah??, i dont get it, i never said you were catholic wtf. Is a stupid question i never wrote that.
magorem 2 years ago
Yes, you did, dumbfuck.
I posted that in RESPONSE to your comment.
DNAunion 2 years ago
You did write it, asshole. A simple search (if you aren't too retarded to do that!) will prove it.
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i think you never were a catholic, ... i think the problem is that you TOUGHT you were catholic, you tought you believe in something, but no. ... and thats why you stopped believing in catholic church and then became an atheist or believing in science.
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DNAunion 2 years ago
So why are you lying?
Jesus doesn't like liars.
DNAunion 2 years ago
You have to read carefully my dear friend, a bastard said this :You are 28 years old? And ignorant as a 7 year old? (At least if you live in Sweden)
You really think you qs are new? Never answered?
Since you don't like Theories, I suggest you deny the Theory of Gravity and jump of a cliff. Or you can just read a book.
We know very little about gravity. Thus the LHC. Get it? We know a lot about evolution.
~~~ He tought that i was 28 LOL
magorem 2 years ago
So you changed your profile to say you are 28?
You can't say you are 28 there are say you are 14 here and not be lying about one of them. You are lying one way of the other.
DNAunion 2 years ago
i never did. and There was a explosion, im seeing it, in front of my science book, also on internet,
magorem 2 years ago
Nope. The big bang was not an explosion. It was an expansion of space and time.
As a rough analogy, think about inflation a balloon. That would be expansion. Now take the ballon and pop it with a pin: that's an explosion.
DNAunion 2 years ago
This is okay in some sense, however, it does certainly had something in common with an explosion with an expansion.
HEC01 1 year ago
Sleep tight ignorant troll.
ILYIAB 2 years ago
oo, i got it, he saw my profile. Yes im lying about my age, because i was not able to watch some videos, so i put on you tube that im 14 years old.
YEAH, YOU CAN REPORT ME, AND SO YOU WONT HAVE TO MSG ME AGAIN RIGHT?
magorem 2 years ago
I still don't believe you, because now I've caught in 2 lies.
You telling 2 lies in the little bit of time I've known you is a very high rate if lying. You can't be trusted.
DNAunion 2 years ago
holy crap you take it too seriously, why does there have to be two sides and no in between?
in fact, i'm just interested in how you think we got here? please tell me what you think. i'll try and understand.
ShowsomeFury 2 years ago
We, as in humans, got here by evolution: we are apes descended from other, earlier apes.
DNAunion 2 years ago
alright, i'll play ball. I'm not saying you're wrong though.
Where did apes come from?
ShowsomeFury 2 years ago
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From Wikipedia:
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Begun[10] says that these primates flourished in Eurasia and that the lineage leading to the African apes and humans— including Dryopithecus—migrated south from Europe or Western Asia into Africa.
DNAunion 2 years ago 2
if you think information from wikipedia is proof of what your trying to tell us then i don't really buy it. anyone can edit wikipedia.
but who knows, maybe it is right. but again, i dont' really see how this proves that there is no God who had a hand in this.
ShowsomeFury 2 years ago
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1) Proof? Where did I use the word proof??
I never claimed that the informatin PROVED anything.
You asked where apes came from, and I gave an answer to your question. If you think the information I provided is wrong, then show exactly why it is wrong.
DNAunion 2 years ago
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2) PROVES there is no God who had a hand in it? Who said it PROVES anything?
The info I gave also doesn't PROVE that there are no magical unicorns, leprechauns, or Santa Clauses who played a role in it. That's not the purpose of what I wrote.
Now, if you want to proppose that God, magical unicorns, leprechauns, or Santa did play a role in it, then you need to provide evidence supporting such a claim. Where is it?
DNAunion 2 years ago
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The surviving tropical population, which is seen most completely in the upper Eocene and lowermost Oligocene fossil beds of the Fayum depression southwest of Cairo, gave rise to all living primates—lemurs of Madagascar, lorises of Southeast Asia, galagos or "bush babies" of Africa, and the anthropoids; platyrrhines or New World monkeys, and catarrhines or Old World monkeys and the great apes and humans.
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DNAunion 2 years ago 2
@ShowsomeFury
From a common ancestor they had.
And before you ask again, from a common ancestor that common ancestor had with other species of it's time.
DeionMalkavian 2 years ago
@DNAunion and why arent there man-apes alive today?
HEC01 1 year ago
@HEC01 You are forgetting a key point in evolution is timescale things evolve over millions of years so if you having trouble imagining how bacteria turn into a fish imagine a bacterium turning into a a slighty more complictaed bacterium over and over till it reaches the complexity of a fish millions of years later. As to why noone can find a 'man-monkey' is simple. The short awnser is they evolved into us and we can tell they have exsisted by looking at fossils of them.
666or999 1 year ago
@666or999 you mean homo habilis and homo erectus.
HEC01 1 year ago
@ShowsomeFury
Everything you said about the Big Bang and Evolution is incorrect. The universe was not created with the universe from nothing; the Big Bang merely explains the current state of the universe. If you are interested in these things, I can direct you to some good stuff that is easy to understand. Let me know.
Also, humans have never created anything that actually qualifies as artifical intelligence.
jimbrown257 1 year ago
@ShowsomeFury all i stated was that the big bang was a popular theory.
but this stuff really interests me and i'm by no means an expert and would love to get all the info i can about it. opinions are always changing.
computers that can analyze and learn overtime through trial and error doesn't count as artificial intelligence?
ShowsomeFury 6 months ago
People thinks that religion is just something stupid to believe, is not.There could not be order in the world without religion, and it is true. You can argue but people will agree with this, because you cant kill your son because you are hungry, or because he made you angry. (some people have done it, but they are in jail)Last thing, i am 14 year old, just to the guy who said that i was 27 year old. I would beat you so easy, but in a fair arena. Not here, thanks, no more comments.(waste of time)
magorem 2 years ago
Your reasoning abilities do indeed confirm that you are only about 14 years old.
DNAunion 2 years ago
do you want me to be a scientific person?? OK,,, im going to be for just 4 seconds, ok here i go : SHUT THE FUCK UP
magorem 2 years ago
Lets role play. You started.
Magorem doing scientist:
SHUT THE FUCK UP
DNAuion doing a Preacher:
I FUCKED ALL THE LITTLE BOY
Your turn
DNAunion 2 years ago
no!!, really??, man , im 14 year old and my biology is starting to teach me the causes of homosexuality, so msg me later.
magorem 2 years ago
No, I believe you are only 14. That young age matches the level of ignorance you display.
DNAunion 2 years ago
By the way, in reality, I have no clue how old you are.
You say HERE that you are 14, but your profile has said, ever since I've been "Debating" you, that you are 28.
So which is the lie?
DNAunion 2 years ago
do you really know why debating with creationists is so difficult??, is because we love in what we believe. Im 14 year old and you wont change my mind in any way.
magorem 2 years ago
A very pertinent quote that someone brought to my attention a few days ago.
Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon — it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory.
- Scott D. Weitzenhoffer
DNAunion 2 years ago
How civilized of you scientist, is just something bothering all the scientist?, i never heard a creationist calling a scientist an animal, or a bad word such as " creationist= idiots ", i do not know really, whats your problem.
magorem 2 years ago
Creationists are scientifically ignorant. I know, I used to be one.
Certain creationists add to that other signs of idiocy, dishonesty, and so on.
DNAunion 2 years ago
Wow, how much time did you waste trying to find that? tell me, do you read many books??? you know why? because you have to believe in something, i think you never were a catholic, im not catholic, im christian, but i think the problem is that you TOUGHT you were catholic, you tought you believe in something, but no. You never knew Jesus as you really needed, and thats why you stopped believing in catholic church and then became an atheist or believing in science. People say they believe, idk.
magorem 2 years ago
WTF?
Where the fuck did you stupid 14 year old brain come up with the idea that I said I was Catholic?
As long as we are making up statements and stuffing them into the other's mouth ...
I was sickened when you said earlier that your dad fucked you up the ass, pulled his dick out just before he organisms, and spurted it all over your face ... and licked it all off.
DNAunion 2 years ago
You only think you are religious. In truth, you are just retarded, and not smart enough to undestand the world. Because so much is missing in your brain, you fill it in with stupid crap instead of worthy science. Then your retardeness leads you to think you believe in God, which you don't really.
DNAunion 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Einstein believed in god indeed, he tried to make a theory about how god made everything,then he died. If he were not dead then i think the evolution theory would be erased
magorem 2 years ago
No, Einstein tried to make a unified theory. It had nothing to do with God.
And to say that Einstein believed in god is misleading. Einstein explicitly said he did not believe in
(1) a personal god (what the vast vast vast majority of the world means when they say "god")
(2) an afterlife
DNAunion 2 years ago
Ok, Einstein was Jewish and thats why he moved from German to USA. Hitler was killing Jewish if you did not know. Do you think he was going to say to everybody that he was Jewish?? He was a scientist, and saying that he believed in god could ruin his career.
magorem 2 years ago
1) After Einstein moved to the US, he told people he did not believe in a personal god or an afterlife. So your whole Hitler thing doesn't work.
2) Plenty of the physicists back then believed in God. There was no need whatsoever for him to be deceitful about his religious beliefs.
So where are we? Right back here.
Einstein explicitly said that he did not believe in (1) a personal god or an afterlife.
DNAunion 2 years ago
Check your sources, and stop mailing me, just post it please.I wont email you anymore.
magorem 2 years ago
I have checked my sources. And when did I e-mail you?
Despite your repeated attempts to defect attention from the facts, we are still left with these facts.
Einstein said explicitly that he didn't believe in either of the following:
1) a personal God
2) an afterlife
DNAunion 2 years ago
You can reply back by visiting the comments page. Just post them, i m not goin to write more comments.
magorem 2 years ago
So, you aren't going to support your claim that I was e-mailing you? It's obvious why you won't even try: you are making shit up.
I see how you continue to distract attention away from your ignorance, but I will point it out again.
Einstein explicitly stated that he did not believe in:
1. a personal god
or
2. an afterlife
DNAunion 2 years ago
Peacefully i told you that i dont want to comment anymore, but you still replying, and i dont want to receive more emails. You did not acepted my comment and you got angry because you knew that i was talking with the true and now that i dont want to comment anymore you reply me with bad words. Please, stop it.
magorem 2 years ago
Still not adult enough to admit your mistakes. How sad.
Einstein rejected both the notion of a personal God and an afterlife.
DNAunion 2 years ago
Welcome to the Internet.
Hitler was a creationist catholic.
If you can't take your arguments being shot down, don't write a comment.
ILYIAB 2 years ago
Gentlemen, in first place Hitler was NOT a catholic, he believed he was god, that the German people were gods. Now, everyone has the right to write a comment. You call yourselves a scientist, that you are the most advanced animal, but anyways you call other people "fool", "stupid" N0oB" or whatever you can imagine. My problem is that some people write "childish " messages to my email, such as 7 year old boy, or if i have a live account.
I do NOT see the advance in nature that you say we have.
magorem 2 years ago
1) Hitler was born into a Catholic family
2) Hitler was raised Catholic
3) Hitler was a member of the Catholic church
4) Hitler said he was and always would be a Catholic
5) Hitler and was not excommunicated despite his autrocities
Make of those facts what you will.
DNAunion 2 years ago
Sources?
You are obviously NOT an advanced animal. Maybe you carry too much of that old gene that links us to apes.
Your just ramble. Step up or STFU.
ILYIAB 2 years ago
How would a physicist with no expertise in biolo