Ms.Pacman stage 85: cool clearance in 1,5'

[eggertstwart]

WHY DON'T THE GHOSTS TURN BLUE?

Just kidding.

[thrylos32]

omg! you are a god. What's you highest score ?

[TK2008BEST]

@thrylos32 When I stopped it was about half a million.

[thrylos32]

omg! you are a god

[TK2008BEST]

I use AutoGK which I think is very good. U know that its not just 5 min, they r seperate vids which must join. Adding letters is a few minutes for u who r familiar with this job, not for me. I have fast connection but I need at least 100' to upload 100MBs here. I congratulate u too for your 49". I dont have enough time to spend in order to make something faster.

PS. Fraps is not so good, produces files only up to 3,9GB while in some cases(like emulators)doesnt work.

[TK2008BEST]

It would take me many hours just to compress the files, mix them with letters, then upload it here.

[VelvetRolo]

I used Sony Vegas 6. It takes 6 minutes to render the 5 minute video. (Which compresses from FRAPS .avi to an 8MB .wmv that I upload to YouTube)... Adding the text is just a few minutes. Took me about 45 minutes to an hour of playing to come up with those 5 examples.

I tried for about half an hour to beat your 52" slow junior but haven't done it yet! 52" is a GOOD time. I congratulate you on that.

[TK2008BEST]

If I had so much time I could create myself such video too. But this is not my purpose.

I m working on many other game's uploads.

[VelvetRolo]

It took me less than an hour to do that.

[VelvetRolo]

Check my new video response! 5 different ways to do this. And this time you should be convinced they are real slow levels...

[TK2008BEST]

Already done 52"!! (he he he)

[VelvetRolo]

If it's not your purpose to create such videos, why'd you do this one 52"??

[TK2008BEST]

As an answer to your video of 58''... It was u who started making comparisons, remember?

[VelvetRolo]

I think I did not understand what you meant by "create such videos".

Anyway, I think both slow chase and juniors could be done in the low to mid 40 second range. But, it would take many tries to get lucky with the first seven seconds.

[VelvetRolo]

BTW, I've done 58 seconds slow junior clearance. Try to beat that! (I've got the video of that too!)

[VelvetRolo]

My 1mil game was with save states, as I've told you repeatedly to read in the "About this Video". Somehow I doubt you'll ever read it, so I'll tell you here... I repeatedly kept saving the game before the fruit came out. Then I kept reloading until a banana appeared. I did this about 30 or 40 times. Asking me how many bananas I got is totally irrelevant.

[VelvetRolo]

(Saving and loading until bananas appeared is what I meant in the "About this video" when I said I cheated... Somehow, I don't think you've ever realized that probably because you never actually read the entire About this video, right?)

[TK2008BEST]

Of course I knew that your 1 million game was with save states, and I never said something different. What I asked was how many bananas did u received.

[VelvetRolo]

And YOU STILL DON'T GET IT. What point is there in asking me how many bananas I got if I just told you I manipulated the game to keep making bananas appear? IT DOESN'T MATTER how many bananas I got. It wasn't a real game. The game wasn't anywhere near over at the 1,000,000 mark. I think it ended at 1,230,000 or something like that.

[TK2008BEST]

Dont worry, I got it, do u think I m fool?

My question is important: How many bananas did u got in an 1 million game(maybe I d like to do the same;) and I didnt know u finished with 1,23 millions.

And, once more, I knew it was not a real game from the very first time I saw it.

[VelvetRolo]

I'm sorry, but I really don't understand why you think it matters. I could have made as many bananas as I wanted, so why does it matter?

But anyway, I don't even know how many bananas there were, as I didn't keep any of those stats. I really only did that to see what the score would do at 1,000,000 points. (To see if it would roll over back to zero).

[VelvetRolo]

Yeah, Ms Pac with easy tunnels is another game, and I have difficulty with the real thing because I've been practising too much with Wolf106...

However, Aart (who did the 955k on TG) CAN play on the real thing just as well. Look on Marp, and you'll see a 954,760 by him done with Mame 090 which does NOT have this tunnel problem... In fact, he also just did a 933K game today! (He never stops!)

[TK2008BEST]

Yes, I just saw it. He uploaded that a few days ago. I had uploaded in that site many hiscores too(metal slug series etc) but they forced me to delete them and leave because of their jealousy, thats why this Marp site is not trustful.

[VelvetRolo]

So, because YOU made an ass of yourself (I've read some of threads), you can't trust any of their scores? The .inp is right there for you to download yourself. Remember, you told me THAT is the only way you believe anything. To see it with your own eyes. So, go ahead and download the .inp and "VERIFY" it yourself. If that doesn't prove anything to you, what will?

[TK2008BEST]

You dont understand, I didnt say I dont trust their scores. The scores are respectables because there is the inp file and anyone can check them.

What I said is that this marp site is not trustful because someone like me cannot participate. My top scores are missing.

[TK2008BEST]

What do u mean "I made an ass of myself"? Plz translate the meaning.

Most of my threads there were deleted. Those people(moderators and some players) were full of jealousy and they just couldnt accept my posts and my scores...really sad people:/

[VelvetRolo]

I vaguely recall reading some of the threads when they were there. It seemed you were being obnoxious and unnecessarily confrontational. (Sorry, I realize Engish is not your native language, but those are the words that first came to my mind...) I didn't read much of it to understand what the cause was, as I really didn't care at the time. I think you may have mistaken jealousy for annoyance at your attitude... They KNOW you were/are good at games, but they didn't like your abrasive manner.

[TK2008BEST]

No, u r absoluetely wrong and u shouldnt support these jerks. I was not obnoxious or "abrasive maaner", these words suits better to them. I was only aswering to their nasty attacks until they banned me from forums. And then they continued to insult me without have my answers! U think this is appropriate? U know the reason, some of those players were jealous, could not accept that there was some1 better than them, thats why they caused troubles.

[VelvetRolo]

I really don't know much about MARP or go there much. Doesn't interest me. I really can't comment about why you were banned. Didn't see enough of it. I truly am incapable of believing they would ban you from the forums because of jealousy though. I REALLY can't believe that.

[TK2008BEST]

If u "really can't comment about" then at least dont take their part. I didnt believe that too until I faced it myself.

[VelvetRolo]

Take their part? Take their side you mean? I'm not taking anyone's side. I looked a bit on MARP just now and your threads are still there... YOU definitely have a hostile attitude. So do they in certain cases. But you seem to start it more than they do... When reading a little here and there I got the impression that you were deliberately provoking them to react (trolling). I also was basing what I was previously saying about your attitude on the way you talk to me...

[TK2008BEST]

My vocabulary says that "take their part" and "take their side" have the same sense.

U did took their side after all those u said. As I said, in marp there r only a few of my posts, they deleted many of them so that there is no sense and coming up bad impressions. This is what they call fascistic censorship. U see, even u were deluded. U better check THEIR attitude, at least what they didnt deleted. These people were really nasty.

[VelvetRolo]

"Take their side" would be more accepted. (I've never even heard "take their part").

But I can TOTALLY understand WHY anyone would get nasty with the way you start the attitude, and never stop. Maybe you don't even realize it. Maybe it's because English isn't your first language. But I don't believe you are ever unaware of what you are doing. I didn't like some of their attitude either. But you just never stopped, and never even tried to see other points of view.

[TK2008BEST]

Dont try to focus in my attitude, u better check yours. I answer in your attacks exackly in the same way. U should respect me so that I ll respect u too. Why should I stop answer when u say lies for me? Is that what u do in my position?

[TK2008BEST]

You said "I also was basing what I was previously saying about your attitude on the way you talk to me..."

What about YOUR attitude on the way U talk to me? Why u think u r the only correct and I m with the problem? You thought that I should agree with your posts in order to be "correct"?

[VelvetRolo]

I would have thrown out an attempt where it was obvious that I almost (or should have) died... (It's just my opinion that something demonstrating your skill at clearing a level should be clean with no close calls - even if you're just going for speed - who cares if it's fast but full of near deaths?)

[TK2008BEST]

Its hard for some1 to judge if something is near death or not near death, even a ms.pacman guru cannot tell this with certainty. Of course if I try more times I'll do a better time, this was hurried.

[VelvetRolo]

But that case I pointed out, at :55 is obvious that you just got lucky. Blinky did catch up to you, but just by chance went the wrong way..

If you put "in 1.5'" in the title of the video, that means you are emphasizing the time aspect. The 1'07" vid I did was originally not even done for purposes of time. It was a repeatable technique I was working on.

I'm pretty sure I could do about 50s clearance of a slow chase board, if all I was striving for was minimizing time...I'll try.

[TK2008BEST]

U can't know if blinky would eat me or go away. Its funny to look for such things. Should we examine all these microdetails in a game? (look for a needle in a hay-stack:)

[VelvetRolo]

Of COURSE we should look at these details.

You ALMOST died, and you really SHOULD have died. You got LUCKY. You can't claim to be a great Ms Pac player ("Best" or "master" to use your words) if you play like that. It's NOT a needle in a hay stack. It's an EXTREME OBVIOUS indication that you're just getting lucky, and are not as skilled as you are pretending, or believe you are.

[TK2008BEST]

As I said, its pointless to look these unimportant details. For examble, did I commented your 63'' game? Did I said how much, HUGE lucky u were there? remember last pellet? U had 1% to take 1600s but u took them. If I want a really good/fast game I just have to try 1000 times and I ll take it, u know this. Words like "best" or "master" r just humor:) (but anyone who believes is more master hes free to challenge me!)

[VelvetRolo]

Well, believe me, NOBODY is going to perceive "master" or "Best" as humor. It looks egotistical or arrogant.

"free to challenge me!" you say... THat's why I had to post my vid that's 20 seconds faster. BTW I just did 56 seconds, so that's 30 seconds faster now. I don't like it though because I could have died...

I don't see the point of putting the time in your title if you weren't trying to get the best time possible. What's the point of that?

[TK2008BEST]

If nobody going to perceive master as humor then he just have to beat me so that HE will be the master. How u call someone who makes great scores if not master? Why this is arrogant?

When I put that time in my video, there wasnt any other faster time. So simple.

Now that u put a faster one, what do u want me to do? delete it?

[VelvetRolo]

You just contradicted yourself. First you said "master" was a joke (humor). Now you're saying it isn't.

No, someone who makes great scores CAN be a master. Definitely! BUT, someone who CALLS themself master or BEST right in their UTube Name IS arrogant. Even if it's a joke, (which I don't believe), no one will see it as anything other than bragging, and as I'm trying to demonstrate with my video replies, it isn't even warranted. You need some humility.

[TK2008BEST]

U see, its not obvious what meaning u give to the word "master". I say that some1 hiscorer is a master. U r a master too(in Ms.Pacman). Why this word disturbs u?

U better relax and take it easy, its not about humility or any global crisis...:)

[VelvetRolo]

The difference is you have this in EVERY video you've posted:

"The master TK2008 shows you the way..."

AND your name has BEST in it...

AND you started posting vids with times in them.

You are essentially proclaiming to the world that your skills are better than anyone else's. That's why you need some humility.

I also think I'm damn good at Ms. Pac. But I don't go on a mission trying to prove that to the world. (I am apparently on a mission to prove that you aren't as good as you think)

[TK2008BEST]

Now becoming funny and I wonder why such constancy. I prefered my nick to be just"TK2008" but that was not available, so I added "best". Why this sounds so much problem to u? Should I ask u for my nick before I invent it?...

About my standard description, did u notice the "..." at the end?

Anyway, if I say I m the master, u dont have to believe it!

[VelvetRolo]

You're not getting the point at all.

I've had enough of this chatting with you for now. After seeing some of the stuff at MARP, I now understand certain things...

Goodbye for now. If you want to talk Pacman seriously, I don't mind that at all. But I don't even believe you care much about that either. I get the impression that you think dealing with people is a game to be played and won. You're wrong. You should spend less time in the arcades and more time talking with real people.

[TK2008BEST]

I dont have to take your point, why dont u try get mine instead? U r right, this kind of chatting is too boring but u decided so. U see, when they say something wrong about me I do have to answer so that truth come up.

If some1 doesnt agree with u, this doesnt means that he need spend time with real people. PS; I dont spend much time in arcades anyomore, I m mostly an x-player.

[VelvetRolo]

Maybe you're not paying attention to what messages I'm replying to? Because when I was talking about you not getting the point, I wasn't talking about MARP at all... Anyway... I could say more but I've had enough. Either you're not reading what I'm saying, or reading the wrong thing, or you don't realize that my point makes your point useless. That's enough. BYe.

[TK2008BEST]

Dont worry, I replied exactly in the right post. I had more enough than u, dont forget that u started the trouble with no reason.U already cost me a lost of useless time.

BYe too.

[VelvetRolo]

You should have died at :55 as well...

[TK2008BEST]

Some1 could say that there were and many other moments that I could had died as well...

Well, u had absolutely right for slower ghosts in the tunnels! That makes the game MORE easier... If red is after u in the slow stages, then u just have to get in the tunnels...

That score of 955000 in TG site should be invalid. Ms.Pacman with easy tunnels is another game(btw, he got 38 bananas, how many did u got in your 1000000 game?)

[VelvetRolo]

Again you went down first! Most definitely a no-no on the slow levels...Check my vid. I'm pretty sure I've done less than a minute.

[TK2008BEST]

I ll answer about your response in your video area.

I got down first because it was not a serious game, it was for time only. I have explained u this again but seems u dont understand it:)