I might be wrong, in that case I'd ask someone to correct me. In the early stages of this game, couldn't the Black Hat player (as defined in the 1989 european convention, I mean) have taken the straight aisle from Notting Hill Gate and directly to Aldgate East? I mean, that would have prevented her opponent from moving to Soho Square from Grosvernor Road (with no leakage, which was remarkable!) and thus saved her quite a headache further on.
The answer must be a simple one, I just can't see it.
Ah, you've fallen into the classic trap - the Millenial Trelawney Modifications were put in place to specifically prevent such a move.
A better move would have been Tower Gateway, as after all there are no reverse moves on the DLR until the Queen's Rule is invoked. Then her opponent would've been well and truly stuck - Hammersmith and Mornington Crescent would have immediately followed.
indeed, unless you're using the the King James standard rule book which clearly states (in 1956) that shunting is allowed except on the north and southern diagonals.
I recommend starting with the old Tudor ruleset, except that you rule out all the outdated and needlessly complicated Half-windsor subset of special rules and replace them with the following: Treat all double courts as wildcards, players can never be put into a spoon, and - of course - consider both Finchley Central and Loughton as nontraversable.
You could have used the wop and taken a shortcut through Harrods after Earls Court - Assuming of course you were playing Napoleon versions 2, 4, 6 or 77.
Anna was definitely robbed!!! So unfair, she was clearly the more refined player, Swiss Cottage (Smith street switch...very classy!!!) was a stroke of genius and it was simply blind luck that Elise made her way to Mornington Crescent from there (even the most seasoned players wouldn't have spotted that one). That said I guess there is a possibility that Elise was just hustling (playing dumb). Great game!!
Monday morning quarterbacking at its finest! (appologies if that sounded too American)
Lest we forget, under currently accepted international rules, any player whose opponents are currently *all* in neep (and this was only a 2 player game) *must* play a Jubilee Line station, which, given the particular circumstances here (and any good player would have seen this coming) made M.C. an inevitability.
The smugness on the part of the winner was indeed well-deserved.
I love this, one of the best versions of the game ever (and I've played a few versions myself with some friends LOL).
I thought you failed to spot that Earls Court (played rather early in the film I might add) which leaves the Diagonal wide open thus allowing a loop manouevre to Dollis Hill, and soon what do my ears hear! DOLLIS HILL!
Though I will admit, you got out of the loop pretty quickly :D. Oh and Swiss Cottage to Mornington Crescent, an interesting move, not the easiest.
This is Genius - but luckily for you - it's mad Genius, hence the capital 'G'. If it had not qualified as mad Genius (since unchanged with a capital 'G' since the last guote in my critique, then you would not have entered the ISIHAC Hall of Fame. PS You're the first one's in - Humph was too wise. and the others were too wary to enter. Any way, they were all distracted by Samantha (and one of them by Sven so I heard). Now, where is the sequel?
Very good game, but I agree that Anna was robbed. She should have been allowed the diagonal backshift at Clapham Junction, but I'm glad she won in the end because she's gorgeous!
Nice finish. I thought you were done for when she had you turtling in Bank for so long, but it paid off in the long run. Granted, she made some really glaring mistakes (only a few of which you managed to captilize on) and seemed a little pre-occupied with outdated strategies/rules (her opening moves seemed right out of the Helsinki Forumula, which was beaten over 2 decades ago!)
A nice match, with an ending that could only have surprised your opponent.
Wow Dollis Hill that was a masterstroke. Of course if you were playing the Edward Banks 2007 Rules then you could have included a Jubilee Extension to West Ham or even Canary Wharf.
I really don't get mornington crescent. It's something to do with railway stations, and I think that getting mornington crescent station wins it, but...
You and your opponents are traveling the London Underground together. The objective is to get the group to Mornington Crescent on your turn, and to stop your opponents from making it there first. I've never been able to explain the rules too well, but it's not hard to pick them up after watching a few games.
You ladies are a lot hotter than Humph or Barry Cryer. ;)
Did you catch the recent episode with that female computerized voice joining in the MC game, eventually fliriting with Stephen Fry? It was an instant classic. :]
I'm from the US so I never have a "clue" what's going on in Mornington Crescent, but I appreciate it anyway for its inherent anarchic randomness. Of all the great British institutions, "Clue" is the greatest, in my opinion.
Many thanks. Glad we did it for you. Don't think we could out do Samanatha though. I hear tell she is on tour at the moment in "Battlestar Galactica - The Play"... Being from the US you must have played "Mosholo Parkway" using the New York subway system?
Pentonville Road would have been a killer response to Aldgate East. Would have forced an early Dolis Hill no doubt but at that stage it could have so easily misdirected the opponent down a rat run via Paddington! A 'Garden' strategy I know but it worked so well against TBT just last year at the start of the season
You have to move with the times. I am excited by the prospect of the 2012 Olympic vipolar by adding Stepney to the Onga parallel. A whole new game in one small step.
Aldgate Gate East is a nasty move, but Elise side stepped magnificently by holding her pair and cutting the traverse in half. I hold my hands up - she was the better player that minute.
Hang on, hang on. You were definately in 'spoon' early on and didn't satisfactorily remedy the situation. Everybody knows that Niddlying doesn't eradicate spoon dynamics; still the facilitating of vertical Aldgate East was extremely refreshing, and I might add, a bold frontier not seen since Rushton years. I take my hat off to you! If we were to play, however I would have my gauntlet gambit as Swiss Cottage - a very considered move which you'll not doubt appreciate.
Pardon me, but Mrs. Norris from North Wales still holds the International grand slam record and is arguably the greatest Mornington Crescent player of the past century.
I must take umbrage with that and remind you of the contributions of Gustav PennyGo, who succesfully remind undefeated between 1948 and 1962 without ever breaking Cravets law or using main line staions. And I also believe the late Willie Rushton should be remembered :)
Well played both - some interesting new moves there. Surprised to see you playing the Lord Knaresborough 'Nid' rules - I always find they slow the game down terribly. I loved the Knightsbridge, Green Park, Clapham Junction technique. What a pity Onga was closed - you could have opened all the diagonals at once. Never mind, fantastic game.
Wonderful. Thanks. Hope you get asked to make the big screen version. Though have to admit I was seriously disconcerted when you introduced Soho Square and Greek Street. I mean "Duh?".
She is the filmanator... sent from the future to make noise... don't cross her, she has rice noodles and is not afraid to use them... actually she is a very realistic glove puppet...
too clever for your own good Anna. Bournemouth pier! A good early move but by that stage in the game coupled with the dollis hill loop just meant you had far too much LV. Elise was obviously playing a simple diagonal traverse strategy. Ok it's a newbie special but well executed. You can get a bit too cocky because of your experience. Pride comes before a fall. Well made though, when's the rematch?
_A_ moves to Swiss Cottage, there's an 'Mmm-huh-hmm' which turns into a sound which... well, I'm still having difficulty coming up with a description, but 'Basil Brush strangled mid-laugh' might cut it.
I'm at a loss. whats this game about? I like to hear your voices, and enjoying yourselves. I like to hear you two banter nonsense, but I like to have some clue whats going on. Here we have darkness, and voices and tube stop names, and laughing, and all in the midst of a murmuring crowd.
yes I'm confused. Plus its got a down ending. Anna cries. Sorry guys, I love your comedy but, I don't really care for this one.
No worries buddy. Its an old British Parlour game very popular over here. There is an American version I believe called "Mosholo Parkway" using the New York subway system.
Shepherd's Bush
Skandelerious03 2 years ago
I loved that prior inversion. Almost worthy of Rushton himself.
MaryWoolnoth 2 years ago
Let's start a game now! I'll go first.
Ewell East.
crazymelon 2 years ago
Tufnell Park
fyingpurplecows 2 years ago
Camberwick Green
BWFSabian 2 years ago
Kentish Town.
leela145 2 years ago
I might be wrong, in that case I'd ask someone to correct me. In the early stages of this game, couldn't the Black Hat player (as defined in the 1989 european convention, I mean) have taken the straight aisle from Notting Hill Gate and directly to Aldgate East? I mean, that would have prevented her opponent from moving to Soho Square from Grosvernor Road (with no leakage, which was remarkable!) and thus saved her quite a headache further on.
The answer must be a simple one, I just can't see it.
bparga 3 years ago 3
Ah, you've fallen into the classic trap - the Millenial Trelawney Modifications were put in place to specifically prevent such a move.
A better move would have been Tower Gateway, as after all there are no reverse moves on the DLR until the Queen's Rule is invoked. Then her opponent would've been well and truly stuck - Hammersmith and Mornington Crescent would have immediately followed.
Still, a well thought-out question :)
Booshman 2 years ago
Of course it's a simple move if you play without using the Contraflow at Bond Street.
Guardphoenix81 2 years ago
And it seems we have almost two comments being posted this week.
And it comes from a Mrs. Trellis of North Wales, who writes;
Dear Anna,
I understand you're very good at flower arranging. Which should go on top- the self raising or the pain?
Yours sincerly
Mrs. Trellis
bigbadbyrnes 3 years ago 3
you shunted at green park!! no shunting past 1984 remember?!
jey87 3 years ago
indeed, unless you're using the the King James standard rule book which clearly states (in 1956) that shunting is allowed except on the north and southern diagonals.
leela145 2 years ago
it sounds really complicated... and i'd probably fail miserably but i really wanna try and learn to play this game.....
sparkles316 3 years ago
I recommend starting with the old Tudor ruleset, except that you rule out all the outdated and needlessly complicated Half-windsor subset of special rules and replace them with the following: Treat all double courts as wildcards, players can never be put into a spoon, and - of course - consider both Finchley Central and Loughton as nontraversable.
NixorX 3 years ago 2
It's not real. It's a running joke.. Now, Lower Paddington Crescent....
BWFSabian 2 years ago
Bond Street
MaryWoolnoth 2 years ago
Fan-bloody-tastic. Just been listening to the n.o. 9 CD ....Dollis Hil is a good movee, if followed by Morden. Trust me.
brotherfax930 3 years ago 2
You could have used the wop and taken a shortcut through Harrods after Earls Court - Assuming of course you were playing Napoleon versions 2, 4, 6 or 77.
jellyfishdave 3 years ago
Anna was definitely robbed!!! So unfair, she was clearly the more refined player, Swiss Cottage (Smith street switch...very classy!!!) was a stroke of genius and it was simply blind luck that Elise made her way to Mornington Crescent from there (even the most seasoned players wouldn't have spotted that one). That said I guess there is a possibility that Elise was just hustling (playing dumb). Great game!!
pittjames 3 years ago
rofl
acivilcampaign 3 years ago
the diagonal traversage at 1:24 was just genius - let it get away though... it's such a shame when that happens.
tiancast 4 years ago
A worthy effort, but a reverse move on the diagonal, when in neep, would have lead to a more efficient conclusion.
Northadelaidesteve 4 years ago
Monday morning quarterbacking at its finest! (appologies if that sounded too American)
Lest we forget, under currently accepted international rules, any player whose opponents are currently *all* in neep (and this was only a 2 player game) *must* play a Jubilee Line station, which, given the particular circumstances here (and any good player would have seen this coming) made M.C. an inevitability.
The smugness on the part of the winner was indeed well-deserved.
shutterbun 3 years ago
I love this, one of the best versions of the game ever (and I've played a few versions myself with some friends LOL).
I thought you failed to spot that Earls Court (played rather early in the film I might add) which leaves the Diagonal wide open thus allowing a loop manouevre to Dollis Hill, and soon what do my ears hear! DOLLIS HILL!
Though I will admit, you got out of the loop pretty quickly :D. Oh and Swiss Cottage to Mornington Crescent, an interesting move, not the easiest.
Sithlord2000 4 years ago
This is Genius - but luckily for you - it's mad Genius, hence the capital 'G'. If it had not qualified as mad Genius (since unchanged with a capital 'G' since the last guote in my critique, then you would not have entered the ISIHAC Hall of Fame. PS You're the first one's in - Humph was too wise. and the others were too wary to enter. Any way, they were all distracted by Samantha (and one of them by Sven so I heard). Now, where is the sequel?
philomorphologian 4 years ago
Very good game, but I agree that Anna was robbed. She should have been allowed the diagonal backshift at Clapham Junction, but I'm glad she won in the end because she's gorgeous!
JohnWhapshott 4 years ago
Sorry but I thought Anna was robbed.
Elise clearly had the merest grasp of modern game play but got lucky in the last gasp.
I can't seem to get my kids to understand the game.
Either they blurt out Mornington Crescent after a couple of moves or they burst into tears because they don't have any idea where to go.
I've even let them play with a map of the London Underground open in front of them and they still get confused.
PlantagenetKW 4 years ago 4
I was in Bournemouth last month, spent a weekend there. I'll need a map of London before I start playing, I'm from Linwood.
discocampbell 4 years ago
Nice finish. I thought you were done for when she had you turtling in Bank for so long, but it paid off in the long run. Granted, she made some really glaring mistakes (only a few of which you managed to captilize on) and seemed a little pre-occupied with outdated strategies/rules (her opening moves seemed right out of the Helsinki Forumula, which was beaten over 2 decades ago!)
A nice match, with an ending that could only have surprised your opponent.
shutterbun 4 years ago
The move from the 1998 Benny Hills rules was a new one to me. Bravo! Brilliant play!
parkviewmo 4 years ago
Wow Dollis Hill that was a masterstroke. Of course if you were playing the Edward Banks 2007 Rules then you could have included a Jubilee Extension to West Ham or even Canary Wharf.
Gingerblokey 4 years ago
Despite the obvious simplification of the rules, this is one of the best games I have seen played. Good work all, A thrilling ride.
twdarkflame 4 years ago
St. John's Wood. Much underrated! Mind you that first girl has big..
Durbs75 4 years ago
I prefer Morganstown Crescent.
ChestertonB 4 years ago
I really don't get mornington crescent. It's something to do with railway stations, and I think that getting mornington crescent station wins it, but...
darthflyeroflines 4 years ago
It is a simple game in which anyone can learn the basic premise. Please have a go, it's the most fun you can ever have with a map.
annascaz 4 years ago
Please explain the basic idea of the game.
darthflyeroflines 4 years ago 3
You and your opponents are traveling the London Underground together. The objective is to get the group to Mornington Crescent on your turn, and to stop your opponents from making it there first. I've never been able to explain the rules too well, but it's not hard to pick them up after watching a few games.
dominickhw 4 years ago
You ladies are a lot hotter than Humph or Barry Cryer. ;)
Did you catch the recent episode with that female computerized voice joining in the MC game, eventually fliriting with Stephen Fry? It was an instant classic. :]
I'm from the US so I never have a "clue" what's going on in Mornington Crescent, but I appreciate it anyway for its inherent anarchic randomness. Of all the great British institutions, "Clue" is the greatest, in my opinion.
morricone1900 4 years ago
Many thanks. Glad we did it for you. Don't think we could out do Samanatha though. I hear tell she is on tour at the moment in "Battlestar Galactica - The Play"... Being from the US you must have played "Mosholo Parkway" using the New York subway system?
annascaz 4 years ago
Pentonville Road would have been a killer response to Aldgate East. Would have forced an early Dolis Hill no doubt but at that stage it could have so easily misdirected the opponent down a rat run via Paddington! A 'Garden' strategy I know but it worked so well against TBT just last year at the start of the season
barcop101 4 years ago
A Dollis Hill Loop holds no prisoners, as Humph would say without trumpet.
annascaz 4 years ago
I don't think I've seen such a daring central line traversion since the semi finals of the 1993 Canadian Open, a game I think none of us can forget!
Still, I find these modern variances on the game just can't capture the subtle strategic nuances of the Tudor Court rules.
Nuskrad 4 years ago
You have to move with the times. I am excited by the prospect of the 2012 Olympic vipolar by adding Stepney to the Onga parallel. A whole new game in one small step.
annascaz 4 years ago
To be honest, I think Aldgate East was a masterstroke. Soho square was a risky strategy that is hard to get out of.
eddygggg 4 years ago
Aldgate Gate East is a nasty move, but Elise side stepped magnificently by holding her pair and cutting the traverse in half. I hold my hands up - she was the better player that minute.
annascaz 4 years ago
Hang on, hang on. You were definately in 'spoon' early on and didn't satisfactorily remedy the situation. Everybody knows that Niddlying doesn't eradicate spoon dynamics; still the facilitating of vertical Aldgate East was extremely refreshing, and I might add, a bold frontier not seen since Rushton years. I take my hat off to you! If we were to play, however I would have my gauntlet gambit as Swiss Cottage - a very considered move which you'll not doubt appreciate.
sebflyte1 4 years ago
Swiss Cottage as we know ponshons the nid, so to trip up this late was folly afreshco on my part.
annascaz 4 years ago
Beautiful. Any plans for a sequel?
aidansean 5 years ago
Can I Just say that it is a real pleasure to see women taking a more active role in such a male dominated sport.
Also, Elsie, your double platform loop was something quite rarely seen, by even the most experienced of players... :)
EBursey 5 years ago
Pardon me, but Mrs. Norris from North Wales still holds the International grand slam record and is arguably the greatest Mornington Crescent player of the past century.
enchantressofnumbers 4 years ago
Trellis :P
whiternoise2 4 years ago
Hear again... hear... er...
annascaz 4 years ago
I must take umbrage with that and remind you of the contributions of Gustav PennyGo, who succesfully remind undefeated between 1948 and 1962 without ever breaking Cravets law or using main line staions. And I also believe the late Willie Rushton should be remembered :)
EBursey 4 years ago
Hear Hear!
annascaz 4 years ago
Due to the refracto factation that you rarely see the ladies games on radio doesn't mean we do not play. After the laundry we play every week...
annascaz 4 years ago
Well played both - some interesting new moves there. Surprised to see you playing the Lord Knaresborough 'Nid' rules - I always find they slow the game down terribly. I loved the Knightsbridge, Green Park, Clapham Junction technique. What a pity Onga was closed - you could have opened all the diagonals at once. Never mind, fantastic game.
kastrelAPWBD 5 years ago
Thanks :) Onga was a blow, but always is...
annascaz 4 years ago
Wonderful. Thanks. Hope you get asked to make the big screen version. Though have to admit I was seriously disconcerted when you introduced Soho Square and Greek Street. I mean "Duh?".
stpman 5 years ago
Loved it.
marysiak 5 years ago
Thanks :) It was great fun finally bringing the game to the big screen!
annascaz 5 years ago
I'll have to try this game! Nice work you two :)
covertigo 5 years ago
Cheers buddy :) Ready to show you the basics of the game at any time...
annascaz 5 years ago
She is the filmanator... sent from the future to make noise... don't cross her, she has rice noodles and is not afraid to use them... actually she is a very realistic glove puppet...
annascaz 5 years ago
too clever for your own good Anna. Bournemouth pier! A good early move but by that stage in the game coupled with the dollis hill loop just meant you had far too much LV. Elise was obviously playing a simple diagonal traverse strategy. Ok it's a newbie special but well executed. You can get a bit too cocky because of your experience. Pride comes before a fall. Well made though, when's the rematch?
djappelby 5 years ago
I missed the initial Jubilee Line carry over... feel like a daft rookie now...
annascaz 5 years ago
Excellent, I really enjoyed while not having a clue whats going on, brilliant idea for a short
cw3030 5 years ago
Or the radio white noise? Both sounds were obtained by dunking 3 digestive biscuits in a mug of weak Bovril, therefore reversing the polarity.
annascaz 5 years ago
How did you get E to make those noises towards the end? I'm hoping you didn't use torture.
digbytantrum 5 years ago
It was Anna - she lost...
annascaz 5 years ago
No, before that. The really piercing cawing sound.
digbytantrum 5 years ago
The yahahaha?
elisenotelsie 5 years ago
_A_ moves to Swiss Cottage, there's an 'Mmm-huh-hmm' which turns into a sound which... well, I'm still having difficulty coming up with a description, but 'Basil Brush strangled mid-laugh' might cut it.
digbytantrum 5 years ago
Aha! that would be Elise talking at her normal pitch...
annascaz 5 years ago
Oi!
Eliseharris 5 years ago
Ah. Well it upset one of the dogs. The one that's not deaf or autistic.
digbytantrum 5 years ago
So sorry... I did it especially to upset the cats... wrong wrench...
annascaz 5 years ago
Liverpool Street Rah!
I'm at a loss. whats this game about? I like to hear your voices, and enjoying yourselves. I like to hear you two banter nonsense, but I like to have some clue whats going on. Here we have darkness, and voices and tube stop names, and laughing, and all in the midst of a murmuring crowd.
yes I'm confused. Plus its got a down ending. Anna cries. Sorry guys, I love your comedy but, I don't really care for this one.
funk4america 5 years ago
No worries buddy. Its an old British Parlour game very popular over here. There is an American version I believe called "Mosholo Parkway" using the New York subway system.
annascaz 5 years ago
loved it! and the trailer too. thanks.
w00dy911 5 years ago
Cheers! Glad you enjoyed it :)x
annascaz 5 years ago
Cheers matey :)!
annascaz 5 years ago