@LouisaLollipopELF well, i guess if u wanna get fame n help in scholarship to uni,u jz gotta go through tht(bitter first,sweet later).coz no doubt SM is the biggest n most influential entertainment company in Korea...hmm,other than YG..i think YG must b really good 4 the singers,don't seem to hv tht much probs.
omg i want to fucking bitch-slap that bastard!!! SM YOU FUCKING RUINED OUR PRECIOUS BOYS!! and you still dared to say that you did not torture them?!!! DO YOU EVEN HAVE A HEART?! FUCKN SON OF A BITCH! if only i could go burn down sm-.- of course only those so-called officers of high post=.=
WOW :Ohmmm i have no words accept hurt after looking at changmin n yunho's reaction!!!! on Lord knows wats the truth but i jus hope no agency ever tries to diminish/insult DBSK like dat ever again!!!!
I just want everything to go back to normal!!! But I reallt hate the way they use to treat them. .and I really hope they still dont.. Always Keep The faith <3
Anyways, sm ent. Is prob gonna soon fall down. Yea its the best company and all the groups are highly famous and always gets the awards but i bet u in the future sm is going down. H.o.t., then dbsk, then suju (any others if i missed) are all splitted up. I can see y. Kinda like north korea :p
@sweetsamonra When is their anniversary exactly because some source said 24/12 but some said 26/12. I am a Cassiopeia too. So when will we up the video?
Seriously. I can't even believe this video. I am such an OT5. I have not been with Cassiopeia for long, but it's almost been a year now. And I can't believe this. I mean, I have heard lots about them treating their people very badly. Let us see past this and continue to keep the faith. They'll be back someday. All they have to do is ditch SM and show them that even without them they are the kings of the world.
what the hell is tht??!! how can they treat DBSK like tht? so,is true tht SM Ent. abuse their boys including SuJu..i heard a lot about it too..sooooooo mean!!!!!! SM ENT. PLEASE STOP BEING SOO MEAN TO YOUR ARTIST.IT HURT THEIR FANS!! SM BEING SUCCESSFULLY ALSO BECAUSE THEIR ARTISTS..SO PLEASE TREAT THEM NICELY!!! huh~~
what the hell? what kind of news is this? this is totally yellow journalism. they sound so biased. they cannot make a news like that! i dont like sm's way of handling their artists but how dare this fucking news show say that SM prevents fans from getting closer to the artists and makes the conclusion ON AIR that SM abuses their artists. what the hell?
Yea and ok i heard ALOT of rumours that DBSK or infact everybody working in SM is being beaten up if they do something wrong. This is really making ne confused. I woder if anyone can tell me if this is true
EH! CHINA! IF UUE DARE! OR IF UUE ARE SOOOOO CLEVER! GO TO KOREA, LET THEM FREAKING ASK UUE QUESTIONS IN KOREAN AND UUE FREAKING TRY ANSWERING! GETTI? EH! UUE BETTER WATCH UR ACTIONS AND UR BRAINS! HOW ABOUT THE CAR INCIDENT OF THE LITTLE GIRL? 18PPL PASS BY, NONE HELP! ONE CHINESE FEMALE, SELL SEX FOR IPHONE 4S. HEY! UUE BETTER FREAKING WATCH UR EDUCATION! UUE PEOPLE ARE GETTING MORE AND MORE LOW CLASS. OKIES?
@JJoanneful Instead of looking at the surface, look deeper into things. You don't think others around the world do the same things you mentioned? Can't you understand a region before you criticize it? China is not like the place you were raised up in, and so the people are more pressured by society. Most were raised to fend only for themselves, and so this is the lifestyle they lead. I do not condone what those eighteen people have done, but I have the mind not to judge them easily.
@JJoanneful And please don't think I'm being mean, but you are generalizing all of China. That one man does not represent China, so don't think that way.
we all know DBSK's managers are really rude and impolite, then there's SHINee's manager with the hitting the fan girl's head incident..... SM is such a bad company but they produce such awesome artists..... =.=
I may not understand the situation fully; I don't know why Yun Ho and Chang Min stayed, and I don't know EXACTLY why JYJ left. But none of that matters to me. All I care about right now is for them to be together again - under what company? I don't care either. I just want the old TVXQ back. I miss their silly moments and the times when they bullied each other. Moments like that were precious, and we took it for granted that they'd be like that forever.... I really miss my OT5 ;~;
if they were "tortured" why did the 3 sue about money? why didn't they sue for human rights violation which would be a lot worse for sm since that'll be criminal, not civil? why is their court sessions only about the 3 getting paid? even yc's nameless song is about not getting paid, not about being abused. none of the 3 even said they were abused. they only talk about not getting paid so where is this abuse thing even coming from? if they were abused, why wouldn't YH & CM also sue?
For all of you who wants to know about the contract in details, go to truetvxq(.)blogspot(.)com/ >>remove the bracket. It has complete analysis of the contract and other facts, and also it also have the links to original documents, so you could check the validity of the translations and sources. This is just a suggestion for fans and others who wants to know more.
PS: I'm not forcing anyone to completely agree or anything, just want to let ppl know the available information correctly..
Poor boys freakin SM entertainment ruined everything, worked all 5 boys too hard and in the end broke them part, although it was the boys decision this wouldnt have happened if it werent for SM torturing them. The same thing happened with Hangeng of suju, I personally still think HoMin should get out of there but I only believe in the original DBSK5 and respect everyone decisions. My hope for the future is that HoMin will leave SM and that JYJ and HoMin can be friends again.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DISCUSS HERE??!! DO YOU HAVE A BRAIN? DOES 6.25 MEETING AND THE LAWSUIT INVOLVE IN THIS VID??! NO!!! THIS VIDEO REGARD TO TVXQ BEING SCOLD BY A MAN AND SO OBVIOUS THEY ARE STILL FIVE IN THE VIDEO! SO WHY ARE YOU ALL TALK ABOUT JYJ AND HOMIN?!! WHY ARE YOU ALL ACT LIKE AN IDIOT & TALKING SUCH SHIT AT HERE!? WHY ARE YOU ALL BASH ON JYJ AND HOMIN? = = WHY CAN'T JUST WATCH THE VID AND COMMENT THE MAN WHO SCOLDING THEM! SOME BIAS IS SO CHILDISH! CAN YOU JUST RESPECT BOTH SIDE?!
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DISCUSS HERE??!! DO YOU HAVE A BRAIN? DOES 6.25 MEETING AND THE LAWSUIT INVOLVE IN THIS VID??! NO!!! THIS VIDEO REGARD TO TVXQ BEING SCOLD BY A MAN AND SO OBVIOUS THEY ARE STILL FIVE IN THE VIDEO! SO WHY ARE YOU ALL TALK ABOUT JYJ AND HOMIN?!! WHY ARE YOU ALL ACT LIKE AN IDIOT & TALKING SUCH SHIT AT HERE!? WHY ARE YOU ALL BASH ON JYJ AND HOMIN? = = WHY CAN'T JUST WATCH THE VID AND COMMENT THE MAN WHO SCOLDING THEM! SOME BIAS IS SO CHILDISH! CAN YOU JUST RESPECT BOTH SIDE?!
@SuperSofly1 u can talk shit like this because u favor on homin...and mybe homin is ur bias.. so whats the point of this arguing .. u'll never believe on JYJ site. why they need to sue AVEX??? LOLL funny.. avex wanna make some money from JYJ too,.if u believe on what blog said, u r stupid. this shit is based on your observation from reading ur favourite blog or whatsoever,.. and good luck in "fighting the truth about your homin" ..
@NoMinWoo1Hwanja Because only Yunho was speaking to the press, they other did not speak probably as the reporter said due to the language barrier. So the staff guy wanted to know why only Yunho was answering the questions, when they all should have been talking.
@SaranghaeSJGrobanite That guy was NOT talking to DBSK. Can't you see the TWO members BEHIND and then yunho and junsu aren't even facing him, so obviously he wasn't addressing them.
@yvonnezkea Even if the man did not scold TVXQ, which I still believe he did, the subtitles themselves support the claim that he scolded them and the following clips are also in support of his scolding. But to each its own. It was my observation based upon the footage. If I falsely gave a reply to NoMinWoo then I apologize, but like I said I do not think I made a incorrect observation, He did indeed scold the Gods.
@NoMinWoo1Hwanja That guy was NOT talking to DBSK. Can't you see the TWO members BEHIND and then yunho and junsu aren't even facing him, so obviously he wasn't addressing them.
@NoMinWoo1Hwanja because during the meeting only yunho spoke the others kept quiet....so shes scolding them for not speaking. can u believe it?...lol they r superstars and still get scolded....can u picture riahana or beyonce getting scolded by her staff? ridiculous right?! and poor boys just take it without saying anything!!
That representative had just been caught on camera for throwing an outburst. I'm a fan of DBSK, but ever since I heard about the problem, I totally support JYJ. These boys have incredible talents. Being mistreated and unappreciated for the work that they do... I give Junsu, Jaejoong, and Yoochun all credit for fighting for their rights as workers as human beings. JYJ WILL COME OUT STRONG BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY STRONG.
@JinYinLong This report is skewed I believe. I don't think the guy was talking to the group at ALL. First, changmin and junsu are behind on the sofa.Then, yunho and yoochun were clearly talking to each other, not even facing the guy who shouted... why would the guy burst out like that if he was scolding someone who wasn't even facing him or paying attention to him? If fans are using this as 'evidence' of mistreatment they're mistaken and it's a shame.
i don't think the anger was directed at the five members but at the bodyguards. They might have been lax in protecting the members. The guys was not even looking at the five but at the other people in the room. Min and Junsu at the back, Yunho was even on the other side of the guy. I think the members were shocked when this guy shouted at the bodyguards. That is what i honestly see in this video.
@mejulietteselita ...he wasn't even addressing DBSK. Look carefully at where the members are. This is a very skewed (but clever, I suppose) "news" report.
i have no idea what happen to JYJ & homin those years. though i red the unnamed songs lyrics. but im not siding anyone. both homin and JYJ deserve a better future. only singing for a 13 year contract an what happen then? they are not singing not peforming anymore?
what? the unnamed song is about how yc asked sm for a loan for his personal biz and he was rejected and then he got angry bc he didn't get money after expecting to get money. the unnamed song never talks about any form of abuse and if you remember yc said this was the truth of what happened. that means, everything is about money! and jsyk, the 5 members were the ones that requested for the amendment to their contract from 10 yrs to 13 yrs. copy of the amendment is online.
people believe what they want but still i'm gonna support all 5. they are still who the same. its just that we changed after they split. cassies pride themselves on being faithful, yea i can see that. n i dun think leaving is a bad thing if thats what they want. ppl can say what they wan but its just a matter of what u think n what u believe.
Guys you are acting immature I mean seriously believing the "facts" you read from BLOGS? That shows how naive you are if you believe that. The 5 members are MEN not brats so I would like to think that they made the decision to stay/leave on their own beliefs and because that is what THEY WANTED for their lives. Remember as fans we KNOW NOTHING, nada get it? So stop saying that JYJ are traitors or that HoMin are victims or the other way around cause what are you guys basing that on? Nothing.
@SuperSofly1 Yes I have..... I don't know what to say about it! I don't believe that JYJ would tell anybody to start posting hate-messages about HoMin!I just can't believe it.... I can only say what I understood from what I saw, please see your inbox I'm going to send you something very interesting.If you want,read it! I think we should hear all the rumors and then decide! (I'm not telling that the 6.25 meeting is a rumor)
i think tat as tvxq fans..we should support them no matter what so that they know they are not alone in the world. If they do something, there must always be a reason. So please support both JYJ AND TVXQ!!!!!!!
how dare that man scold dbsk?!!they are one of the reasons why smentertainment become rich!!!!so they should not scold them..so what if they didnt talk?!!!
@SuperSofly1 none of them have the power to challenge the contract. You're forgetting that the idols are paid by the company. The dbsk member that left were popular enough to leave and still remain in the industry. Let's say shinee members left sm. Besides the fact that they would get sued, who would sign another contract with them? Sm has alot of influence in the idol industry so leaving isn't an option.
@cutiesttrraann24 They have rights, JYJ filed a countersuit against SM indeed and they signed a contract with Avex so they were pretty active, JYJ held a concert, they made cd, dvds, dramas. SM do not have a lot of influence, if they have it, Judge wouldn't agree with JYJ injunction, and of course if SM is interfering with JYJ activities, JYJ just have to go to the Judge and SM would have to pay a huge penalty for not complying with Judge decision...
@cutiesttrraann24 please go to read truetvxq(.)blogspot(.)com and confirm what I am saying, SM is not the powerful company, SuJu member won against SM so this company is not invincible and their contracts are definitely not exceptionable. I know idols are paid by company, what's your point? it's not like they don't have any money to hire a lawyer. That's why JYJ never sued SM until SM sued JYJ, they are not hopeless idols, they have a lot of money, they are not victims at all.
@iHeartKyu how did you know? if they torture artists, do you think those artists will just keep quiet?! hello! i wonder where are you getting your info. you mean all those groups are being torture and yet they don't care at all and only jcs had the guts to go out? lol to you then!
@iHeartKyu Who say that? Oh just JYJ, Yunho and Changmin didn't say that, Shinee, SNSD, F(x), Kangta, SUJU etc,etc never said that, even Hankyung defended SM. How can you know? Do you work for SM?
Not physically. But they're dead strict on diets (Ex: SNSD & SHINee are heard that they aren't allowed to eat past 7 pm. Pretty much cause they have to stay skinny.) Practices are average of 9 hours... I heard that's just for singing for SNSD, don't forget about dancing. Although times can change. Don't act like you know a lot; my uncle works for SM.
@iHeartKyu all your claims, it's just based on hearing. you heard it from where? from whom? your uncle works in SM? wow! i wonder why your uncle still works in there till now, bec as you claim it seems that SM is evil. SNSD and SHINEE? i wonder why they still want to work in SM when they are being tortured, lol! you know they can get out if they want to just like "jyj the heroes" lol!! IF SM IS AS BAD AS YOU WANT TO EMPHASIZE I BET NO ONE AS IN NO ONE WILL GOING TO STAY THERE UNTIL NOW!!
@iHeartKyu yeah your uncle is not an idol so if idols are being tortured, i'm sure they wouldn't treat their workers nicely as well right? imagine idol that being watch by millions of fans are being tortured what more if they are only workers! show me your evidence, maybe i might believe you but then again maybe not bec as far as i know you're just a butthurt jyj fans or someone who have something againsts SM! but let me tell you this, HOMIN's words are trustworthy than any of jyj's claim!!
You call yourself a TVXQ fan... you're pathetic. JYJ and TVXQ are one, how dare you call yourself a Cassiopeia. You're a shame. If you're so in love with them, go to Korea and fucking support them there instead of saying you support them without buying albums and shit. Fuck, you're so immature.
And, you're not even Korean. Do you watch the news? Do you watch reality shows that aren't even subbed that carry important information? Are you even included their official fan cafe that share information that not even 50% of it is shared in the English language? Foreign get updates at least 2 days or sometimes more, later than what Koreans do.
@iHeartKyu one more thing, given that they practiced with an average of 9 hours, whats your problem then? snsd or shinee themselves never complain or something, who are you to talk on their behalf?! and everyone can claim they're korean, oh i am korean and i work in SM, lol!
Honestly, you call yourself a HoMin fan? How do you know if I'm a JYJ fan or not? You're so absurd. Don't even call yourself a TVXQ fan; what's with your bullshit about JYJ VS TVXQ? If you were a true fan you wouldn't say this shit of who is better. This isn't a TVXQ fan, just an immature girl who thinks she knows everything. What's the difference between JYJ and TVXQ? THEY'RE THE SAME PEOPLE, UNDER DIFFERENT NAMES. TVXQ IS ONE! You call yourself a Cassiopeia, pathetic.
@iHeartKyu LOL I am sorry but I advise your uncle challenge the contract, I mean if they are so evil even if he isn't an idol, he must, JYJ did, maybe he can act as a witness and also JYJ should ask Judge watch the news, yes, all this must be proof in Court. I can't have dinner after 7 pm b/c its not good to my own health, but damn they are Evil, why haven't they (your uncle, SNSD, Shinee, YH and CH, the one who used to eat past midnight with YC) sue SM yet? Rare
for me this is the biggest humiliation they've ever get!! they are not kids ok!! why the heck with their manager being bitchy in front of other peoples..get some respect pls.. yeah2 i know its an old story, but its just ... HAIH!!
@rainscarlet If you pay attention, you will see that man is not talking at them, perhaps he wasn't a SM employee/representative or he was the leader of the escort, who knows but it's obvious TVXQ didn't care at all, he didn't look at them at all, he was looking the bodyguards. He said "Why didn't any of you touch it? and there are so many of you, too", Besides, Yunho looked at him like "WTH", they didn't even apologize and TVXQ members always apologized when they did something wrong or a mistake
@rainscarlet This report is skewed I believe. I don't think the guy was talking to the group at ALL. First, changmin is behind on the sofa, therefore he can't have been addressing 'the 5 guys'. Then, yunho and junsu were clearly talking to each other, not even facing the guy who shouted... why would the guy burst out like that if he was scolding someone who wasn't even facing him or paying attention to him? If fans are using this as 'evidence' of mistreatment they're mistaken and it's a shame.
@yvonnezkea its what u believe.. and I BELIEVE THAT SM REALLY DID TORTURE THEIR ARTISTES... and someone really did try to block the camera...what the hell does it mean??? dont deny the fact, if u favor on sm...
@rainscarlet My dear girl, does it REALLY make sense to you that the guy is 'scolding' someone who isn't even in front of him? At most he's "scolding" 3 members (as clearly, 2 of them are at the sofa behind) and those 3 are not even facing him. No one is blocking the camera, the camera is simply positioned there if you get the difference. Also, I am not a DBSK or SM or kpop fan. So don't be deluded on that point either. I am stating a CLEAR observation based on the video.
@yvonnezkea did u know, this reporter/company can be sued by sme if they made a false accusation ..?? or at least they need to make a proper apology if they really did a false accusation.. ?? whatever, it's just based on what your so called clear observation, but i believe the other way round.. i dont wanna make a fuss here.. so goodbye..
@rainscarlet you do realise that such rumours and accusations are constantly made everyday on internet sites, in the media etc right? SME can sue, but they wouldn't bother if it's not a big deal to them. Can they bother to sue everyone, everytime? And you can't explain away the fact that the ppl he's supposedly scolding are behind him. Can't blame you for believing what you want though, but as you can see from other comments, the observation is not mine alone. Well, all the best!
@rainscarlet In other words, maybe SM really is 'torturing' their artists (and I don't think it's the way you think it is anyway, at most they have terribly unfair contracts - which is common in the industry unfortunately), but THIS video and report is skewed and should not be taken as 'evidence' or proof of mistreatment.
I think people shouldn't take sides in this. Nobody knows what happened but them. Maybe they're keeping it for themselfs for a reason. However, I don't think JYJ acted out of greed. I mean, it's not easy to sue your company, disband from your friends, not being able to sing the songs, lose fans. Do you think they'll do that just because of money? I don't think SM is fully evil. But it happened before. I just want to see them happy. I support both sides TVXQ! and JYJ. I want them together again.
@Paiinx Please go to TRUETVXQ(.)BLOGSPOT(.)COM, maybe after reading it, you will see JYJ left SM b/c of money, they were able to sing after they filled an injunction (not a lawsuit, they weren't the first one in suing, it was SM), did you remember? JYJ held concerts at Tokyo Dome, made CDs, DVD with Avex, they never were inactive or blocked, they didn't lose fans b/c they held a secret meeting (6.25 meeting) in order to spread rumors against HOMIN.
@SuperSofly1 are u sure truetvxq has reliable source on what did they say.. we fan also has a blog who against this truetvxq blog.. this truetvxq even had cut some of the truth in '6:25 meeting'.. did u know that? no right??? JYJ held a concert in tokyo dorm to thank their fans.. and who release their cds or dvds? it's avex! so blame avex who released their dvd cds and so on..
@rainscarlet Yes, I am sure, even JYJFiles used his translation for 6.25 meeting, he keeps you links that guides you to official documents and he rewrite in korean if you want to verify the info with Google translator, so far, it's the best source for me but I do go to other sites too, I go to JYJ3,JYJFiles, tvxq legal, hyeonmu(.)wordpress(.)com, truetvxq vs jyjfiles, etc. He didnt cut 6.25 meeting, Junsu's dad said by himself they got the room from 7 to 8 therefore the meeting last 1 hour
@rainscarlet the full audio is 55 min, funny thing you cant say they didnt spread rumors b/c they actually did, blame Avex? are you serious? it needs two to tango, so they agreed with it, were they forced? LOL if that was the case, why they didnt sue the "evil" Avex like they did with SM? or better yet, why they didnt file a criminal lawsuit? mmm, what's your blog? JYJFiles? oh please, read truetvxq and find out for yourself, the author of this blog ask his readers to read JYJ sites too :)
@Paiinx yea and also,a lawsuit and suing someone is very expensive.I don't think they would just waste their hard earned money to sue SM for no reason.And since JYJ isn't the first to leave SM or sue SM,I believe they may be something wrong however the true reason for it,they would know themselves.We shouldn't take sides and should just continue supporting them because they will forever be DBSK5.
@DawnMarsh The seoul court said itself that S.M.'s contracts were pure "Slave contracts" and went against many human rights laws in South Korea....
They don't even make much money to begin with, S.M. was taking over 95% of the profits and wasn't even hesitating to take on the artist's salary to pay expenses.
Saying "Nobody knows but them" to defend DBSK won't fix anything, especially when there's a shit ton of evidence and DBSK saying themselve's that S.M. is a terrible company.
@Seallie I know and you don't have to say anything.It's true that only DBSK and SM themselves know what happened though yes,SM is not a good company however we aren't part of the lawsuit or the company so we shouldn't say anything about it
@DawnMarsh You don't have to be part of SM or DBSK to know precise details.
I did read the entire law suit details and the court decision along with their reasons, i did read one of the member's contract from the beginning to the end, i know most of the details in this law suit so i can say what ever i want about it.
Law suits in South Korea are public, just go to the court's website and look at the case yourself.
@Seallie So what? We don't take sides.Besides,who cares if you read the law suit online? Whatever happened between DBSK and SM that caused the lawsuit,they know it best themselves.And say whatever you want that cause no one actually bothers about it either.
@Seallie I don't know whether what you're implying as "slave contract" is the TVXQ members contract or not, because, I've read the contract and profit distribution and I've to disagree with you. And the 95% profit that SM took is only for album sales, which from that they've to pay composers, managers, staffs, distribution company and so on. The profit distribution is quite fair, esp. if you've read that TVXQ get 70% profit from their overseas activity, which including Japan.
if that guy were talking to TVXQ themselves, i'm sure Changmin and junsu were included but look at them in the back, they don't seem to care. Meaning he is not talking to them, and i'm sure if he will scold TVXQ he will do it discreetly knowing what will happen if he do it on screen! You just need to use your common sense, all of you who are watching! believing in jyj means you are againsts SM and againsts SM you are also againsts TVXQ!
@lachexamour lol, don't you know that Changmin and Yunho chose to stay in SM? why did they chose to stay in the comp when they can leave together with the 3 if they want to?
@jairinealexa I understand that. I've been a fan for 6 years. And although they clearly have different views on the company and made the decisions based on their own reasoning does not mean that just because you believe jyj does not mean that you are automatically against homin. I love jyj and I support what they do but I love homin still also. I may not agree with their choices but that doesn't stop me loving them just because I don't like SM. People are forgetting this is between jyj and sm.
@lachexamour yes it's between SM and jyj, but Changmin and Yunho's name has been dragged as well. They chose to stay and what happened? majority of OT5 turned jyj fans accused HOMIN of being a puppet, dogs of SM, traitors and so on! truth is, as much as possible i want to be a silent supporter of THE CURRENT TVXQ but i read a lot of bashing, if i won't do anything for TVXQ then i'm just a useless fan. you love HOMIN but you believe more on jyj's side, am i right?
@jairinealexa So what if fans say that?? There are people who bash JYJ and even people who bashed them when they were all together as 5. Don't let what other ppl say get in your way of loving homin or jyj or 5tvxq. And not all jyj fans think that or say that. It only caused a few to ruin it for all. And don't call yourself a useless fan, your love for whoever always CAN make a difference. Every one of us counts :)
And it's not about whose side I'm on more... yes I love homin but that doesn't mean I support them any less than jyj. with jyj I happen to believe in what they are doing, not just because I'm a fan but because I see the injustice that they were faced with and I applaud them for standing up for what they believe in. And like I said, although I don't understand why homin wanted to stay, it doesn't change my love for them. For me TVXQ = all five. And I will always love TVXQ.
@lachexamour so you believed in jyj's claimed about the slave contract then? the contract has been changed 5 times, the last one was in 2009 just to make jyj stay but they chose to leave. which will make people think what is their real reason behind leaving? come to think of it, changing the contract for them to stay but refused it, what then is their real motive? i know you're a jyj bias bec majority of you who claim to be an OT5 believe in jyj but never bother to ask why HOMIN chose to stay.
@jairinealexa wow.you know what, you obviously are so close minded to the facts that were presented in court. do you even read the full statements and transcripts from the court?? Well I do and you don't even know what you're talking about. But no worries, I'm not upset because in the end the truth will be revealed and SM will be proved as the bastards they are and hopefully homin and jyj will reunite. What a shame it is that the fandom has turned against each other. we use to be so strong.
@lachexamour oh i wonder, where did you read the full statement? can you give me the link then bec the i've seen the original contract and it's pretty good, lol!
@lachexamour ONE MORE THING, IF YOU ARE AN OT5 SHOW YOUR LOVE ON THE CURRENT TVXQ BEC I SELDOM SEE AN OT5 WHO CARES ABOUT HOMIN. THEY ARE ALL jyj BIAS LIARS!
@jairinealexa Well that's a shame... and I've come across MANY ot5 fans who love homin still, as I. I just think most of them are more recluse now because of JYJ stans and homin stans who demand sides be taken, y'know? Sent u a message.
Doesn't matter what anyone says, I love homin and jyj and no one can change that or my stance on the situation. Instead I'm going to preserve the happy memories of the 5 of them together. Have a good life~ :)
i also the follower of truetvxq,,i'm not believe the blog 100 percent.but what i can do with such proofs?and i still support both homin and jyj sides.bcuz i love 5 of them very much.even i have to believe that sometimes they make mistakes bcuz they;re also human.so i wish the truth with spoke out soon so every rumours,fights,bashing..will eventually stop bcuz the truth is the winner.
now,,i still support jyj,,i listen to their songs..same with homin and
@dbskanis I am sorry, perhaps I will sound very arrogant, I can't agree about your poor excuse to JYJ "they make mistakes bcuz they;re also human", at least not now, we, human, make mistakes, that's true however we can't use that excuse when people is not doing anything to mend their own mistakes, the worst here it's that JYJ even having the power to fix things they keep doing it, give respect to those who earn it please.
@dbskanis At this moment, I just support Yunho and Changmin however if JYJ act right and try to fix things, I will support them as well. I know I sound too biased in my comments, it's just that I keep reading YH and CH stayed at SM b/c they were scared or bribe and that's not the case at all, I'm frustrated that people refuse to see things. Agree, truth is the winner but not not all will see it, some prefer to live in the dark and sadly I have to accept it.
@dbskanis If you want to support JYJ, it's ok but please be careful and let the truth be told, b/c in this story there are 2 sides, HOMIN said A, JYJ said B, someone must be lying. I have my big respect for you, you didn't call me anti or insulted me :) Thank you for that, take care.
@SuperSofly1 erm..actually i support both,but i cant deny my heart is still with dbsk,mean homin.i'm not only support jyj.yes,i still love and support chunjaesu but till now i cant see their interview,,their variety show or else...but i still love their music..but,,for homin,,i still follow everything they do.maybe what i said before seems like i on jyj side,,but actually u're wrong...i hate being like this bcuz i really wanted to support them same like when they;'re still 2gether.
@dbskanis I understand you, OT5 are having a hard time nowadays, some JYJ fans keep saying SM is the evil, HOMIN fans are saying SM is not the evil JYJ fans claim b/c YH and CH didn't say that, JYJ Files against TrueTVXQ blog, TVXQ vs JYJ, oteeeke? haha just follow your heart and if you want to support both, it's ok, I know you love their music and they are very talented, all 5 of them. My respect and full support it's only for YH and CH, my heart is with them now. Take care dear :)
stop it friends... please.. don`t make any war again... jyj has their decision and HoMin has their reason to stay.. i thought as a cassie`s should respect what their decides... remember the word AKTF?.
IT DOESN`T MATTER HOW LONG U`VE BEEN CASSIE.. 3,4,OR 5 year...
and one more thing... if u said one word. media,tv..etc will create 100 words from there... and yes i also read and hear the news from korean news about them.. but i always believe 5.. and yes from twitter line jyj from tvxq...
changmin and j at the back doesn't seem to care which makes me think, if that guy really talking to them or someone else. anyway we can't do anything with you people who are trying to destroy not only SM but TVXQ! truth will come out eventually. and let me remind you your jyj oppas are not GOd, they make mistakes and blinded by money sometimes!
how can some of u ppl hate either jyj or homin. oh c'mon cassies, make peace jyj also were once TVXQ! they all went through all hardships together. plz don't forget that. remember, TVXQ! started as 5 members not 2. i believe they all have their own reasons, i will juz keep believing in them
@Supersofly1@toniaj85 All i want is to see them happy together. but i can't even see their smiles. i watch all their recent music videos.JYJ during their tour concert, they look like they have fun. Somehow, when a fan screamed out loud "yunho" right when JJ was holding a mic. They all laugh but they give a very sad look. Yunho might never show anything but i can clearly see the quiet look in his eyes. Hes normally shy, rarely speaks in front of the media. But this look is completely different.
@Toniaj85 are you a CASS? or r u a JYJ fan? If ur a true cass, answer this question. Do you think that homin love the other 3 n the same goes to other 3? I believe they all do! I know about the contract, i heard it everywhere, i attempt to read it. This is what i think, homin might not be ready to get out of SM supervision. Thus, SM is powerful. another possibility could be they are happy with being under SM supervision (but i don't like the sound of it). All i want is to see them happy again.
hey@Supersofly1 , listen if you love homin then think for homin. Losing their friends, working under SM supervision, people keep asking why they never leave. Do you know how awful they feel?? If i were them, i would be devastated. Max & U-know may seem cool & strong outside, but inside they're not. They're trying their best. As a fan, support them. I hate it when some fans love somebody so much that they're willing to bash other singers. That ain't cool. Fans should spread love, not hatred.
@legendgirlcharlie Yes, they suffered a lot, I read about some awful episodes; agree, they are trying their best, that's why I support them. I am not bashing JYJ, I never went to JYJ vids, JYJ fans and OT5 are the ones coming to HOMIN videos and keep telling lies. I found out this video and then I read comments saying that maybe HOMIN were bribe not to leave or were scared of leaving. You should know that CH is not that kind of guy, they are not cowards, their letters say a lot...
@legendgirlcharlie Anyways dear, my intention was deffend HOMIN and correct some claims from misinformed fans, if that is bashing for you, it's your opinion but it's not the case, if only you can read that site and others like I did, perhaps you will realize what's going on. Let's spread love for Yunho and Changmin, take care. Thank you for not telling me I am an anti or insult me. Have a nice day.
@SuperSofly1 i appreciate your defense to Homin.. i gotta admit that sometimes JYJ fans really p me off.. I hate it when they're going crazy for JYJ n they keep bashing Homin.. That thing is the so-called "ignorance"... but that doesn't mean homin fans have to say bad stuffs to JYJ.. lets admit it!!!! both homin n jyj did a very job in their music videos n all the musical activities. Lets just stop this fight!!!! :)
@Supersofly1@Toniaj85 GUYS!!! STOP THIS STUPID ARGUING.. I MEAN C'MON... WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DBSK RIGHT NOW.. WE'RE CASSIES.. WE'RE STRONG, TOUGH.. HATERS R EVERYWHERE. DUN LET HATRED CONSUME U GUYS.. I ADMIT THAT SOME JYJ FANS DISS HOMIN FANS OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND. I KNOW WE'RE ALL CRAZY.. THIS SITUATION IS INSANE.. BUT DAT DOESN'T MEAN DAT CREATING A FIGHT WILL SOLVE EVERYTHING.. WE NEED TO APPRECIATE DAT THEY'RE BROKEN UP BECUZ OF THEIR DECISIONS & SM.. :) AKTF - WHAT TRUE CASS WOULD DO..
just watching this makes my heart hurt...our poor boys were treated so badly..yet we couldn't do anything to protect them...fk sme...
kino1988 3 days ago
omg you goys are acting like he committed physical and verbal abuse! It was only scolding *facepalm*
moonlightmenuett 1 week ago
why do people say thing about homin/jyj-,- this is an old video, it was posted 1.5 years before the lawsuit
reinehahaha000 3 weeks ago
if i'm goona audition i will never go to sm,my heart goes to the boys DBSK FIGTHING.....xd
HijikataToshiMay10 1 month ago
i hate sm.
shereensultana97 1 month ago
wait im lost...what was he scolding them about?...
StephTwitsandTubes 1 month ago
... i am kinda getting scared to audition for sm entertainment...
LouisaLollipopELF 1 month ago
@LouisaLollipopELF well, i guess if u wanna get fame n help in scholarship to uni,u jz gotta go through tht(bitter first,sweet later).coz no doubt SM is the biggest n most influential entertainment company in Korea...hmm,other than YG..i think YG must b really good 4 the singers,don't seem to hv tht much probs.
LVDonghaeLV 1 month ago
omg i want to fucking bitch-slap that bastard!!! SM YOU FUCKING RUINED OUR PRECIOUS BOYS!! and you still dared to say that you did not torture them?!!! DO YOU EVEN HAVE A HEART?! FUCKN SON OF A BITCH! if only i could go burn down sm-.- of course only those so-called officers of high post=.=
faithyunjae 2 months ago 2
i don't know maybe its SM or maybe its their mangers
brightshineestar 2 months ago
I felt my heart break when they got scolded :(
BabyK18316 2 months ago
I LOVE YOU IS 8 LETTERS FOR SM
AS WELL AS B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T!!!
Ness6166 2 months ago
WOW :Ohmmm i have no words accept hurt after looking at changmin n yunho's reaction!!!! on Lord knows wats the truth but i jus hope no agency ever tries to diminish/insult DBSK like dat ever again!!!!
giggleskanza 2 months ago
I just want everything to go back to normal!!! But I reallt hate the way they use to treat them. .and I really hope they still dont.. Always Keep The faith <3
HappyPuppyMint 2 months ago
... I have no words, I only hate SM more and more everytime I see them -sm.- on action.
NaruxMisu 2 months ago
Stupid SM - Stupid SM - Stupid SM - Stupid SM - Stupid SM - Stupid SM - Stupid SM -
Stupid SM - Stupid SM - Stupid SM - Stupid SM - Stupid SM - Stupid SM - Stupid SM -
Stupid SM - Stupid SM - Stupid SM - Stupid SM - Stupid SM - Stupid SM - Stupid SM
lanyloveJJ 2 months ago
ทำมาเพื่อ Discredit TVXQ ชัดๆ แย่มาก
6Noxnox9 2 months ago
who's the one that speaking at 1:20? OAO;;;;
Aicchun 2 months ago
@Aicchun Black hair = Yunho, blonde = Jaejoong. I'm not sure which one you talking about ~~
RoflmfaoFail 2 months ago
@RoflmfaoFail err... i mean, is that they manager? or the one who yelling on DBSK is DBSK's members self? OAO;;;
Aicchun 2 months ago
HA!!!
Bet u that mean guy got fired :p
Anyways, sm ent. Is prob gonna soon fall down. Yea its the best company and all the groups are highly famous and always gets the awards but i bet u in the future sm is going down. H.o.t., then dbsk, then suju (any others if i missed) are all splitted up. I can see y. Kinda like north korea :p
AKTF -3
MidLoverNight 2 months ago
@Katlyn2406 their anniversary is 26 dec.
angelbuffy1843 2 months ago
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@sweetsommora When is their anniversary exactly because some source said 24/12 but some said 26/12. I am a Cassiopeia too. When will we up the video?
Katlyn2406 2 months ago
@sweetsamonra When is their anniversary exactly because some source said 24/12 but some said 26/12. I am a Cassiopeia too. So when will we up the video?
Katlyn2406 2 months ago
First Shinhwa, then H.O.T , then DBSK & now SUJU .. they all broke apart in some way because of SM ... who's next? T_T
selena311lol 2 months ago
Seriously. I can't even believe this video. I am such an OT5. I have not been with Cassiopeia for long, but it's almost been a year now. And I can't believe this. I mean, I have heard lots about them treating their people very badly. Let us see past this and continue to keep the faith. They'll be back someday. All they have to do is ditch SM and show them that even without them they are the kings of the world.
NaruNoteProductions 2 months ago
Am I missing something here? Touching what exactly?
12yearoldgul 2 months ago
Uh. DBSK weren't the ones being scolded. LOL
HeartJoong 2 months ago
@1:36 "ai chinja ... (couldn't hear the rest)"
Translation: "Ah, really; Ah, seriously?!" (As in a complaining way).
The only voice in TVXQ's who I recognise with that sound is Yunho. I'm sure it either him or a staff member.
Obviously someone didn't like that person. I don't think anyone does..
CartillaMaze 2 months ago
This is no journalism. It's too biased. And annoying as hell. From one to ten, I'll give this a zero.
MyNameIsMelancholy 2 months ago
always keep the faith ~
amandalam11 2 months ago
what the hell is tht??!! how can they treat DBSK like tht? so,is true tht SM Ent. abuse their boys including SuJu..i heard a lot about it too..sooooooo mean!!!!!! SM ENT. PLEASE STOP BEING SOO MEAN TO YOUR ARTIST.IT HURT THEIR FANS!! SM BEING SUCCESSFULLY ALSO BECAUSE THEIR ARTISTS..SO PLEASE TREAT THEM NICELY!!! huh~~
daniel890326 2 months ago
what the hell? what kind of news is this? this is totally yellow journalism. they sound so biased. they cannot make a news like that! i dont like sm's way of handling their artists but how dare this fucking news show say that SM prevents fans from getting closer to the artists and makes the conclusion ON AIR that SM abuses their artists. what the hell?
kianneis13 3 months ago
Yea and ok i heard ALOT of rumours that DBSK or infact everybody working in SM is being beaten up if they do something wrong. This is really making ne confused. I woder if anyone can tell me if this is true
licaluvskpop 3 months ago
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Hey Cassiopeia
There is a project for the boys 8th anniversary. I'm makin a video featuring cassies from all around the world givin encouraging words to the boys..
All you have to do, is record a short video of yourself givin a short message to the boys (wearin red) giving them encouraging words..
Please, please please participate and help spread, thanks
More info >> dbsk-2612-8thanniversaryproject.tumblr(DOT)com/
thanks a lot.. pleas help spread
sweetsammora 3 months ago
EH! CHINA! IF UUE DARE! OR IF UUE ARE SOOOOO CLEVER! GO TO KOREA, LET THEM FREAKING ASK UUE QUESTIONS IN KOREAN AND UUE FREAKING TRY ANSWERING! GETTI? EH! UUE BETTER WATCH UR ACTIONS AND UR BRAINS! HOW ABOUT THE CAR INCIDENT OF THE LITTLE GIRL? 18PPL PASS BY, NONE HELP! ONE CHINESE FEMALE, SELL SEX FOR IPHONE 4S. HEY! UUE BETTER FREAKING WATCH UR EDUCATION! UUE PEOPLE ARE GETTING MORE AND MORE LOW CLASS. OKIES?
JJoanneful 3 months ago
@JJoanneful Instead of looking at the surface, look deeper into things. You don't think others around the world do the same things you mentioned? Can't you understand a region before you criticize it? China is not like the place you were raised up in, and so the people are more pressured by society. Most were raised to fend only for themselves, and so this is the lifestyle they lead. I do not condone what those eighteen people have done, but I have the mind not to judge them easily.
ABlaqqie 3 months ago
@JJoanneful And please don't think I'm being mean, but you are generalizing all of China. That one man does not represent China, so don't think that way.
ABlaqqie 3 months ago
why are SM representatives/managers so mean??
we all know DBSK's managers are really rude and impolite, then there's SHINee's manager with the hitting the fan girl's head incident..... SM is such a bad company but they produce such awesome artists..... =.=
jjwyl 3 months ago
Why didn't who touch what? WHY THE HELL DID THEY GET SCOLDED FOR?
thedemimusicluvrfan 3 months ago
@thedemimusicluvrfan I guess he meant they kept quiet and didnt touch(answer) the questions.
StaIIHawker 3 months ago
I may not understand the situation fully; I don't know why Yun Ho and Chang Min stayed, and I don't know EXACTLY why JYJ left. But none of that matters to me. All I care about right now is for them to be together again - under what company? I don't care either. I just want the old TVXQ back. I miss their silly moments and the times when they bullied each other. Moments like that were precious, and we took it for granted that they'd be like that forever.... I really miss my OT5 ;~;
il0v3DBSK 3 months ago
The clip is so unclear! But from what I think I saw was that the SM guy was surely scolding some TVXQ members... but I could be wrong.
invisiblegal12 3 months ago
if they were "tortured" why did the 3 sue about money? why didn't they sue for human rights violation which would be a lot worse for sm since that'll be criminal, not civil? why is their court sessions only about the 3 getting paid? even yc's nameless song is about not getting paid, not about being abused. none of the 3 even said they were abused. they only talk about not getting paid so where is this abuse thing even coming from? if they were abused, why wouldn't YH & CM also sue?
cmheem 3 months ago
even though they are tortured like that,they tried to smile for the cassiopeia,that's the why I love them so much
MissNakajima 4 months ago
For all of you who wants to know about the contract in details, go to truetvxq(.)blogspot(.)com/ >>remove the bracket. It has complete analysis of the contract and other facts, and also it also have the links to original documents, so you could check the validity of the translations and sources. This is just a suggestion for fans and others who wants to know more.
PS: I'm not forcing anyone to completely agree or anything, just want to let ppl know the available information correctly..
nfoe 4 months ago
Poor boys freakin SM entertainment ruined everything, worked all 5 boys too hard and in the end broke them part, although it was the boys decision this wouldnt have happened if it werent for SM torturing them. The same thing happened with Hangeng of suju, I personally still think HoMin should get out of there but I only believe in the original DBSK5 and respect everyone decisions. My hope for the future is that HoMin will leave SM and that JYJ and HoMin can be friends again.
DBSK 5 4ever x
xXChronosKittyXx 4 months ago 69
What's wrong with the oldman? He thought he can get crazy everywhere?
MrRafaelarthur 4 months ago
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DISCUSS HERE??!! DO YOU HAVE A BRAIN? DOES 6.25 MEETING AND THE LAWSUIT INVOLVE IN THIS VID??! NO!!! THIS VIDEO REGARD TO TVXQ BEING SCOLD BY A MAN AND SO OBVIOUS THEY ARE STILL FIVE IN THE VIDEO! SO WHY ARE YOU ALL TALK ABOUT JYJ AND HOMIN?!! WHY ARE YOU ALL ACT LIKE AN IDIOT & TALKING SUCH SHIT AT HERE!? WHY ARE YOU ALL BASH ON JYJ AND HOMIN? = = WHY CAN'T JUST WATCH THE VID AND COMMENT THE MAN WHO SCOLDING THEM! SOME BIAS IS SO CHILDISH! CAN YOU JUST RESPECT BOTH SIDE?!
areugaycauseiam 5 months ago 23
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DISCUSS HERE??!! DO YOU HAVE A BRAIN? DOES 6.25 MEETING AND THE LAWSUIT INVOLVE IN THIS VID??! NO!!! THIS VIDEO REGARD TO TVXQ BEING SCOLD BY A MAN AND SO OBVIOUS THEY ARE STILL FIVE IN THE VIDEO! SO WHY ARE YOU ALL TALK ABOUT JYJ AND HOMIN?!! WHY ARE YOU ALL ACT LIKE AN IDIOT & TALKING SUCH SHIT AT HERE!? WHY ARE YOU ALL BASH ON JYJ AND HOMIN? = = WHY CAN'T JUST WATCH THE VID AND COMMENT THE MAN WHO SCOLDING THEM! SOME BIAS IS SO CHILDISH! CAN YOU JUST RESPECT BOTH SIDE?!
shingyee92 5 months ago
@shingyee92 AGREED. REPOSTED!
areugaycauseiam 5 months ago
@yvonnezkea what it's not a big deal u said?? it's on TV ok, of course it's a big deal.. All the best?? LOLLL thank u DEAR...
rainscarlet 5 months ago
@yvonnezkeawhat it's not a big deal u said?? it's on TV ok, of course it's a big deal.. All the best?? LOLLL thank u DEAR...
rainscarlet 5 months ago
@SuperSofly1 u can talk shit like this because u favor on homin...and mybe homin is ur bias.. so whats the point of this arguing .. u'll never believe on JYJ site. why they need to sue AVEX??? LOLL funny.. avex wanna make some money from JYJ too,.if u believe on what blog said, u r stupid. this shit is based on your observation from reading ur favourite blog or whatsoever,.. and good luck in "fighting the truth about your homin" ..
rainscarlet 5 months ago
what was the guy talking about 1:33??
what was that thing he was talking about ??the mic??plz explain to me y was the manager hyun scolding my boys?
NoMinWoo1Hwanja 5 months ago
@NoMinWoo1Hwanja Because only Yunho was speaking to the press, they other did not speak probably as the reporter said due to the language barrier. So the staff guy wanted to know why only Yunho was answering the questions, when they all should have been talking.
SaranghaeSJGrobanite 5 months ago
@SaranghaeSJGrobanite That guy was NOT talking to DBSK. Can't you see the TWO members BEHIND and then yunho and junsu aren't even facing him, so obviously he wasn't addressing them.
yvonnezkea 5 months ago
@yvonnezkea Even if the man did not scold TVXQ, which I still believe he did, the subtitles themselves support the claim that he scolded them and the following clips are also in support of his scolding. But to each its own. It was my observation based upon the footage. If I falsely gave a reply to NoMinWoo then I apologize, but like I said I do not think I made a incorrect observation, He did indeed scold the Gods.
SaranghaeSJGrobanite 5 months ago
@NoMinWoo1Hwanja That guy was NOT talking to DBSK. Can't you see the TWO members BEHIND and then yunho and junsu aren't even facing him, so obviously he wasn't addressing them.
yvonnezkea 5 months ago
@NoMinWoo1Hwanja because during the meeting only yunho spoke the others kept quiet....so shes scolding them for not speaking. can u believe it?...lol they r superstars and still get scolded....can u picture riahana or beyonce getting scolded by her staff? ridiculous right?! and poor boys just take it without saying anything!!
valentina1227 3 months ago
That representative had just been caught on camera for throwing an outburst. I'm a fan of DBSK, but ever since I heard about the problem, I totally support JYJ. These boys have incredible talents. Being mistreated and unappreciated for the work that they do... I give Junsu, Jaejoong, and Yoochun all credit for fighting for their rights as workers as human beings. JYJ WILL COME OUT STRONG BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY STRONG.
JinYinLong 5 months ago 65
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@JinYinLong This report is skewed I believe. I don't think the guy was talking to the group at ALL. First, changmin and junsu are behind on the sofa.Then, yunho and yoochun were clearly talking to each other, not even facing the guy who shouted... why would the guy burst out like that if he was scolding someone who wasn't even facing him or paying attention to him? If fans are using this as 'evidence' of mistreatment they're mistaken and it's a shame.
yvonnezkea 5 months ago
i don't think the anger was directed at the five members but at the bodyguards. They might have been lax in protecting the members. The guys was not even looking at the five but at the other people in the room. Min and Junsu at the back, Yunho was even on the other side of the guy. I think the members were shocked when this guy shouted at the bodyguards. That is what i honestly see in this video.
mau0412 5 months ago 8
I should say that or i will gone day
Hey SMT u should get a life .. u know they is outside alot of ppl hate u agency Fuck u SMT
i just feel sorry to our oppa Yunho and Changmin hope they get out from u fucking agency and then i will gone rest in peace
DBSKHOHO 5 months ago
the man who was angry to my oppadeul.... you are my enemy...
mejulietteselita 5 months ago 3
@mejulietteselita ...he wasn't even addressing DBSK. Look carefully at where the members are. This is a very skewed (but clever, I suppose) "news" report.
yvonnezkea 5 months ago
@yvonnezkea and I said 'the man who was angry to my oppadeul', it can be anyone,. I didn't say the man above...
mejulietteselita 5 months ago
i have no idea what happen to JYJ & homin those years. though i red the unnamed songs lyrics. but im not siding anyone. both homin and JYJ deserve a better future. only singing for a 13 year contract an what happen then? they are not singing not peforming anymore?
LoveAbleTVXQ 5 months ago
@LoveAbleTVXQ
what? the unnamed song is about how yc asked sm for a loan for his personal biz and he was rejected and then he got angry bc he didn't get money after expecting to get money. the unnamed song never talks about any form of abuse and if you remember yc said this was the truth of what happened. that means, everything is about money! and jsyk, the 5 members were the ones that requested for the amendment to their contract from 10 yrs to 13 yrs. copy of the amendment is online.
cmheem 3 months ago
people believe what they want but still i'm gonna support all 5. they are still who the same. its just that we changed after they split. cassies pride themselves on being faithful, yea i can see that. n i dun think leaving is a bad thing if thats what they want. ppl can say what they wan but its just a matter of what u think n what u believe.
kjjdbss 6 months ago 3
will ALWAYS KEEP THE FAITH~! JYJ + HOMIN = TVXQ FOREVER!!!!
tatoo1901 6 months ago 2
Guys you are acting immature I mean seriously believing the "facts" you read from BLOGS? That shows how naive you are if you believe that. The 5 members are MEN not brats so I would like to think that they made the decision to stay/leave on their own beliefs and because that is what THEY WANTED for their lives. Remember as fans we KNOW NOTHING, nada get it? So stop saying that JYJ are traitors or that HoMin are victims or the other way around cause what are you guys basing that on? Nothing.
lapsusciel 6 months ago 6
You guys need to loosen up!!
Shuffle and everything will be okay =D
lapsusciel 6 months ago
who was he talking to because changmin and junsu were like "whatever" and the arguments on here are ridiculous stop fighting shit
XItsxANGELbaby 6 months ago
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XItsxANGELbaby 6 months ago
Many of you think that JYJ left HoMin.... Did you ever think that they made it so they can avoid being hurt from Sm? I mean the five of them?
So much is going on right now, things that we can't even think of.... I will always keep the faith and wait till they make their dream reality!
dbsksweetlove 6 months ago 5
@dbsksweetlove lol No, that's ridiculous, did you read Yunho, Changmin and their parents letters? Did you hear/read 6.25 meeting?
SuperSofly1 6 months ago
@SuperSofly1 Yes I have..... I don't know what to say about it! I don't believe that JYJ would tell anybody to start posting hate-messages about HoMin!I just can't believe it.... I can only say what I understood from what I saw, please see your inbox I'm going to send you something very interesting.If you want,read it! I think we should hear all the rumors and then decide! (I'm not telling that the 6.25 meeting is a rumor)
dbsksweetlove 6 months ago
@dbsksweetlove Hi ! can you send it to me too ? Please ?
123Justdoyourbest 6 months ago
@123Justdoyourbest Yes :)
dbsksweetlove 5 months ago
i think tat as tvxq fans..we should support them no matter what so that they know they are not alone in the world. If they do something, there must always be a reason. So please support both JYJ AND TVXQ!!!!!!!
syahirahiskandar 7 months ago 3
haha, xiah: "my father and mother happy"
WHOAitssusan 7 months ago
how dare that man scold dbsk?!!they are one of the reasons why smentertainment become rich!!!!so they should not scold them..so what if they didnt talk?!!!
kawaiiakechan 7 months ago
@SuperSofly1 none of them have the power to challenge the contract. You're forgetting that the idols are paid by the company. The dbsk member that left were popular enough to leave and still remain in the industry. Let's say shinee members left sm. Besides the fact that they would get sued, who would sign another contract with them? Sm has alot of influence in the idol industry so leaving isn't an option.
cutiesttrraann24 7 months ago
@cutiesttrraann24 They have rights, JYJ filed a countersuit against SM indeed and they signed a contract with Avex so they were pretty active, JYJ held a concert, they made cd, dvds, dramas. SM do not have a lot of influence, if they have it, Judge wouldn't agree with JYJ injunction, and of course if SM is interfering with JYJ activities, JYJ just have to go to the Judge and SM would have to pay a huge penalty for not complying with Judge decision...
SuperSofly1 7 months ago
@cutiesttrraann24 please go to read truetvxq(.)blogspot(.)com and confirm what I am saying, SM is not the powerful company, SuJu member won against SM so this company is not invincible and their contracts are definitely not exceptionable. I know idols are paid by company, what's your point? it's not like they don't have any money to hire a lawyer. That's why JYJ never sued SM until SM sued JYJ, they are not hopeless idols, they have a lot of money, they are not victims at all.
SuperSofly1 7 months ago
Although SM is the top leading entertainment for top quality artists and entertainment, they're also the top for torturing artists.
iHeartKyu 7 months ago
@iHeartKyu how did you know? if they torture artists, do you think those artists will just keep quiet?! hello! i wonder where are you getting your info. you mean all those groups are being torture and yet they don't care at all and only jcs had the guts to go out? lol to you then!
jairinealexa 7 months ago
@iHeartKyu Who say that? Oh just JYJ, Yunho and Changmin didn't say that, Shinee, SNSD, F(x), Kangta, SUJU etc,etc never said that, even Hankyung defended SM. How can you know? Do you work for SM?
SuperSofly1 7 months ago
@SuperSofly1
Not physically. But they're dead strict on diets (Ex: SNSD & SHINee are heard that they aren't allowed to eat past 7 pm. Pretty much cause they have to stay skinny.) Practices are average of 9 hours... I heard that's just for singing for SNSD, don't forget about dancing. Although times can change. Don't act like you know a lot; my uncle works for SM.
iHeartKyu 7 months ago
@iHeartKyu all your claims, it's just based on hearing. you heard it from where? from whom? your uncle works in SM? wow! i wonder why your uncle still works in there till now, bec as you claim it seems that SM is evil. SNSD and SHINEE? i wonder why they still want to work in SM when they are being tortured, lol! you know they can get out if they want to just like "jyj the heroes" lol!! IF SM IS AS BAD AS YOU WANT TO EMPHASIZE I BET NO ONE AS IN NO ONE WILL GOING TO STAY THERE UNTIL NOW!!
jairinealexa 7 months ago
@jairinealexa
It's called a contract, genius. ANNND, my uncle isn't an idol for your information; which is why he's still working there.
iHeartKyu 7 months ago
@iHeartKyu yeah your uncle is not an idol so if idols are being tortured, i'm sure they wouldn't treat their workers nicely as well right? imagine idol that being watch by millions of fans are being tortured what more if they are only workers! show me your evidence, maybe i might believe you but then again maybe not bec as far as i know you're just a butthurt jyj fans or someone who have something againsts SM! but let me tell you this, HOMIN's words are trustworthy than any of jyj's claim!!
jairinealexa 7 months ago
@iHeartKyu
You call yourself a TVXQ fan... you're pathetic. JYJ and TVXQ are one, how dare you call yourself a Cassiopeia. You're a shame. If you're so in love with them, go to Korea and fucking support them there instead of saying you support them without buying albums and shit. Fuck, you're so immature.
iHeartKyu 7 months ago 2
@jairinealexa
And, you're not even Korean. Do you watch the news? Do you watch reality shows that aren't even subbed that carry important information? Are you even included their official fan cafe that share information that not even 50% of it is shared in the English language? Foreign get updates at least 2 days or sometimes more, later than what Koreans do.
iHeartKyu 7 months ago
@iHeartKyu one more thing, given that they practiced with an average of 9 hours, whats your problem then? snsd or shinee themselves never complain or something, who are you to talk on their behalf?! and everyone can claim they're korean, oh i am korean and i work in SM, lol!
jairinealexa 7 months ago
@SuperSofly1
Honestly, you call yourself a HoMin fan? How do you know if I'm a JYJ fan or not? You're so absurd. Don't even call yourself a TVXQ fan; what's with your bullshit about JYJ VS TVXQ? If you were a true fan you wouldn't say this shit of who is better. This isn't a TVXQ fan, just an immature girl who thinks she knows everything. What's the difference between JYJ and TVXQ? THEY'RE THE SAME PEOPLE, UNDER DIFFERENT NAMES. TVXQ IS ONE! You call yourself a Cassiopeia, pathetic.
iHeartKyu 7 months ago
@iHeartKyu LOL I am sorry but I advise your uncle challenge the contract, I mean if they are so evil even if he isn't an idol, he must, JYJ did, maybe he can act as a witness and also JYJ should ask Judge watch the news, yes, all this must be proof in Court. I can't have dinner after 7 pm b/c its not good to my own health, but damn they are Evil, why haven't they (your uncle, SNSD, Shinee, YH and CH, the one who used to eat past midnight with YC) sue SM yet? Rare
SuperSofly1 7 months ago
FUCK SM
PoppinDingy 7 months ago
for me this is the biggest humiliation they've ever get!! they are not kids ok!! why the heck with their manager being bitchy in front of other peoples..get some respect pls.. yeah2 i know its an old story, but its just ... HAIH!!
rainscarlet 7 months ago
@rainscarlet If you pay attention, you will see that man is not talking at them, perhaps he wasn't a SM employee/representative or he was the leader of the escort, who knows but it's obvious TVXQ didn't care at all, he didn't look at them at all, he was looking the bodyguards. He said "Why didn't any of you touch it? and there are so many of you, too", Besides, Yunho looked at him like "WTH", they didn't even apologize and TVXQ members always apologized when they did something wrong or a mistake
SuperSofly1 7 months ago
@rainscarlet This report is skewed I believe. I don't think the guy was talking to the group at ALL. First, changmin is behind on the sofa, therefore he can't have been addressing 'the 5 guys'. Then, yunho and junsu were clearly talking to each other, not even facing the guy who shouted... why would the guy burst out like that if he was scolding someone who wasn't even facing him or paying attention to him? If fans are using this as 'evidence' of mistreatment they're mistaken and it's a shame.
yvonnezkea 5 months ago
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yvonnezkea 5 months ago
@yvonnezkea its what u believe.. and I BELIEVE THAT SM REALLY DID TORTURE THEIR ARTISTES... and someone really did try to block the camera...what the hell does it mean??? dont deny the fact, if u favor on sm...
rainscarlet 5 months ago
@rainscarlet My dear girl, does it REALLY make sense to you that the guy is 'scolding' someone who isn't even in front of him? At most he's "scolding" 3 members (as clearly, 2 of them are at the sofa behind) and those 3 are not even facing him. No one is blocking the camera, the camera is simply positioned there if you get the difference. Also, I am not a DBSK or SM or kpop fan. So don't be deluded on that point either. I am stating a CLEAR observation based on the video.
yvonnezkea 5 months ago
@yvonnezkea did u know, this reporter/company can be sued by sme if they made a false accusation ..?? or at least they need to make a proper apology if they really did a false accusation.. ?? whatever, it's just based on what your so called clear observation, but i believe the other way round.. i dont wanna make a fuss here.. so goodbye..
rainscarlet 5 months ago
@rainscarlet you do realise that such rumours and accusations are constantly made everyday on internet sites, in the media etc right? SME can sue, but they wouldn't bother if it's not a big deal to them. Can they bother to sue everyone, everytime? And you can't explain away the fact that the ppl he's supposedly scolding are behind him. Can't blame you for believing what you want though, but as you can see from other comments, the observation is not mine alone. Well, all the best!
yvonnezkea 5 months ago
@rainscarlet oh it's yunho and yoochun. And in fact, TWO members are behind (changmin and junsu).
yvonnezkea 5 months ago
@rainscarlet In other words, maybe SM really is 'torturing' their artists (and I don't think it's the way you think it is anyway, at most they have terribly unfair contracts - which is common in the industry unfortunately), but THIS video and report is skewed and should not be taken as 'evidence' or proof of mistreatment.
yvonnezkea 5 months ago
I think people shouldn't take sides in this. Nobody knows what happened but them. Maybe they're keeping it for themselfs for a reason. However, I don't think JYJ acted out of greed. I mean, it's not easy to sue your company, disband from your friends, not being able to sing the songs, lose fans. Do you think they'll do that just because of money? I don't think SM is fully evil. But it happened before. I just want to see them happy. I support both sides TVXQ! and JYJ. I want them together again.
Paiinx 7 months ago 107
@Paiinx Please go to TRUETVXQ(.)BLOGSPOT(.)COM, maybe after reading it, you will see JYJ left SM b/c of money, they were able to sing after they filled an injunction (not a lawsuit, they weren't the first one in suing, it was SM), did you remember? JYJ held concerts at Tokyo Dome, made CDs, DVD with Avex, they never were inactive or blocked, they didn't lose fans b/c they held a secret meeting (6.25 meeting) in order to spread rumors against HOMIN.
SuperSofly1 7 months ago
@SuperSofly1 are u sure truetvxq has reliable source on what did they say.. we fan also has a blog who against this truetvxq blog.. this truetvxq even had cut some of the truth in '6:25 meeting'.. did u know that? no right??? JYJ held a concert in tokyo dorm to thank their fans.. and who release their cds or dvds? it's avex! so blame avex who released their dvd cds and so on..
rainscarlet 5 months ago
@rainscarlet Yes, I am sure, even JYJFiles used his translation for 6.25 meeting, he keeps you links that guides you to official documents and he rewrite in korean if you want to verify the info with Google translator, so far, it's the best source for me but I do go to other sites too, I go to JYJ3,JYJFiles, tvxq legal, hyeonmu(.)wordpress(.)com, truetvxq vs jyjfiles, etc. He didnt cut 6.25 meeting, Junsu's dad said by himself they got the room from 7 to 8 therefore the meeting last 1 hour
SuperSofly1 5 months ago
@rainscarlet the full audio is 55 min, funny thing you cant say they didnt spread rumors b/c they actually did, blame Avex? are you serious? it needs two to tango, so they agreed with it, were they forced? LOL if that was the case, why they didnt sue the "evil" Avex like they did with SM? or better yet, why they didnt file a criminal lawsuit? mmm, what's your blog? JYJFiles? oh please, read truetvxq and find out for yourself, the author of this blog ask his readers to read JYJ sites too :)
SuperSofly1 5 months ago
@Paiinx i love you for this comment
jungyume 6 months ago
@Paiinx You speak my mind! Thanks to know that there are many people here who think the same! :D AKTF!
saminbishonen 4 months ago
@Paiinx yea and also,a lawsuit and suing someone is very expensive.I don't think they would just waste their hard earned money to sue SM for no reason.And since JYJ isn't the first to leave SM or sue SM,I believe they may be something wrong however the true reason for it,they would know themselves.We shouldn't take sides and should just continue supporting them because they will forever be DBSK5.
DawnMarsh 4 months ago 3
@DawnMarsh The seoul court said itself that S.M.'s contracts were pure "Slave contracts" and went against many human rights laws in South Korea....
They don't even make much money to begin with, S.M. was taking over 95% of the profits and wasn't even hesitating to take on the artist's salary to pay expenses.
Saying "Nobody knows but them" to defend DBSK won't fix anything, especially when there's a shit ton of evidence and DBSK saying themselve's that S.M. is a terrible company.
Seallie 4 months ago 2
@Seallie I know and you don't have to say anything.It's true that only DBSK and SM themselves know what happened though yes,SM is not a good company however we aren't part of the lawsuit or the company so we shouldn't say anything about it
DawnMarsh 4 months ago
@DawnMarsh You don't have to be part of SM or DBSK to know precise details.
I did read the entire law suit details and the court decision along with their reasons, i did read one of the member's contract from the beginning to the end, i know most of the details in this law suit so i can say what ever i want about it.
Law suits in South Korea are public, just go to the court's website and look at the case yourself.
Seallie 4 months ago
@Seallie So what? We don't take sides.Besides,who cares if you read the law suit online? Whatever happened between DBSK and SM that caused the lawsuit,they know it best themselves.And say whatever you want that cause no one actually bothers about it either.
DawnMarsh 4 months ago
@DawnMarsh That's a matter of opinion, and your argument stays invalid.
Seallie 4 months ago
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@Seallie think whatever you want
DawnMarsh 4 months ago
@Seallie I don't know whether what you're implying as "slave contract" is the TVXQ members contract or not, because, I've read the contract and profit distribution and I've to disagree with you. And the 95% profit that SM took is only for album sales, which from that they've to pay composers, managers, staffs, distribution company and so on. The profit distribution is quite fair, esp. if you've read that TVXQ get 70% profit from their overseas activity, which including Japan.
nfoe 4 months ago
What's the song that starts at 1:12? I like it.... :3
angelsong4104 8 months ago
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if that guy were talking to TVXQ themselves, i'm sure Changmin and junsu were included but look at them in the back, they don't seem to care. Meaning he is not talking to them, and i'm sure if he will scold TVXQ he will do it discreetly knowing what will happen if he do it on screen! You just need to use your common sense, all of you who are watching! believing in jyj means you are againsts SM and againsts SM you are also againsts TVXQ!
jairinealexa 8 months ago 42
@jairinealexa your logic is flawed. Just because your for jyj does not mean your against the artist or tvxq. you're just against the company.
You should use common sense.
lachexamour 7 months ago
@lachexamour lol, don't you know that Changmin and Yunho chose to stay in SM? why did they chose to stay in the comp when they can leave together with the 3 if they want to?
jairinealexa 7 months ago
@jairinealexa I understand that. I've been a fan for 6 years. And although they clearly have different views on the company and made the decisions based on their own reasoning does not mean that just because you believe jyj does not mean that you are automatically against homin. I love jyj and I support what they do but I love homin still also. I may not agree with their choices but that doesn't stop me loving them just because I don't like SM. People are forgetting this is between jyj and sm.
lachexamour 7 months ago
@lachexamour yes it's between SM and jyj, but Changmin and Yunho's name has been dragged as well. They chose to stay and what happened? majority of OT5 turned jyj fans accused HOMIN of being a puppet, dogs of SM, traitors and so on! truth is, as much as possible i want to be a silent supporter of THE CURRENT TVXQ but i read a lot of bashing, if i won't do anything for TVXQ then i'm just a useless fan. you love HOMIN but you believe more on jyj's side, am i right?
jairinealexa 7 months ago
@jairinealexa So what if fans say that?? There are people who bash JYJ and even people who bashed them when they were all together as 5. Don't let what other ppl say get in your way of loving homin or jyj or 5tvxq. And not all jyj fans think that or say that. It only caused a few to ruin it for all. And don't call yourself a useless fan, your love for whoever always CAN make a difference. Every one of us counts :)
lachexamour 7 months ago
And it's not about whose side I'm on more... yes I love homin but that doesn't mean I support them any less than jyj. with jyj I happen to believe in what they are doing, not just because I'm a fan but because I see the injustice that they were faced with and I applaud them for standing up for what they believe in. And like I said, although I don't understand why homin wanted to stay, it doesn't change my love for them. For me TVXQ = all five. And I will always love TVXQ.
lachexamour 7 months ago 96
@lachexamour so you believed in jyj's claimed about the slave contract then? the contract has been changed 5 times, the last one was in 2009 just to make jyj stay but they chose to leave. which will make people think what is their real reason behind leaving? come to think of it, changing the contract for them to stay but refused it, what then is their real motive? i know you're a jyj bias bec majority of you who claim to be an OT5 believe in jyj but never bother to ask why HOMIN chose to stay.
jairinealexa 7 months ago
@jairinealexa wow.you know what, you obviously are so close minded to the facts that were presented in court. do you even read the full statements and transcripts from the court?? Well I do and you don't even know what you're talking about. But no worries, I'm not upset because in the end the truth will be revealed and SM will be proved as the bastards they are and hopefully homin and jyj will reunite. What a shame it is that the fandom has turned against each other. we use to be so strong.
lachexamour 7 months ago
@lachexamour oh i wonder, where did you read the full statement? can you give me the link then bec the i've seen the original contract and it's pretty good, lol!
jairinealexa 7 months ago
@lachexamour ONE MORE THING, IF YOU ARE AN OT5 SHOW YOUR LOVE ON THE CURRENT TVXQ BEC I SELDOM SEE AN OT5 WHO CARES ABOUT HOMIN. THEY ARE ALL jyj BIAS LIARS!
jairinealexa 7 months ago
@jairinealexa Well that's a shame... and I've come across MANY ot5 fans who love homin still, as I. I just think most of them are more recluse now because of JYJ stans and homin stans who demand sides be taken, y'know? Sent u a message.
lachexamour 7 months ago
Doesn't matter what anyone says, I love homin and jyj and no one can change that or my stance on the situation. Instead I'm going to preserve the happy memories of the 5 of them together. Have a good life~ :)
lachexamour 7 months ago
@lachexamour why bother replying me in the first place? live from the past then, bye!
jairinealexa 7 months ago
@lachexamour Well said! I can't agree more! AKTF!
saminbishonen 4 months ago
i also the follower of truetvxq,,i'm not believe the blog 100 percent.but what i can do with such proofs?and i still support both homin and jyj sides.bcuz i love 5 of them very much.even i have to believe that sometimes they make mistakes bcuz they;re also human.so i wish the truth with spoke out soon so every rumours,fights,bashing..will eventually stop bcuz the truth is the winner.
now,,i still support jyj,,i listen to their songs..same with homin and
i have my big respect for them!
dbskanis 8 months ago
@dbskanis I am sorry, perhaps I will sound very arrogant, I can't agree about your poor excuse to JYJ "they make mistakes bcuz they;re also human", at least not now, we, human, make mistakes, that's true however we can't use that excuse when people is not doing anything to mend their own mistakes, the worst here it's that JYJ even having the power to fix things they keep doing it, give respect to those who earn it please.
SuperSofly1 8 months ago
@SuperSofly1 alright..ur words also true,i admit it.but can i ask u?are u on homin or jyj side?or both?...just want to know..
dbskanis 7 months ago
@dbskanis At this moment, I just support Yunho and Changmin however if JYJ act right and try to fix things, I will support them as well. I know I sound too biased in my comments, it's just that I keep reading YH and CH stayed at SM b/c they were scared or bribe and that's not the case at all, I'm frustrated that people refuse to see things. Agree, truth is the winner but not not all will see it, some prefer to live in the dark and sadly I have to accept it.
SuperSofly1 7 months ago
@dbskanis If you want to support JYJ, it's ok but please be careful and let the truth be told, b/c in this story there are 2 sides, HOMIN said A, JYJ said B, someone must be lying. I have my big respect for you, you didn't call me anti or insulted me :) Thank you for that, take care.
SuperSofly1 7 months ago
@SuperSofly1 erm..actually i support both,but i cant deny my heart is still with dbsk,mean homin.i'm not only support jyj.yes,i still love and support chunjaesu but till now i cant see their interview,,their variety show or else...but i still love their music..but,,for homin,,i still follow everything they do.maybe what i said before seems like i on jyj side,,but actually u're wrong...i hate being like this bcuz i really wanted to support them same like when they;'re still 2gether.
dbskanis 7 months ago
@dbskanis I understand you, OT5 are having a hard time nowadays, some JYJ fans keep saying SM is the evil, HOMIN fans are saying SM is not the evil JYJ fans claim b/c YH and CH didn't say that, JYJ Files against TrueTVXQ blog, TVXQ vs JYJ, oteeeke? haha just follow your heart and if you want to support both, it's ok, I know you love their music and they are very talented, all 5 of them. My respect and full support it's only for YH and CH, my heart is with them now. Take care dear :)
SuperSofly1 7 months ago
what's wrong with that guy who was scolding them? can't he control his temper? i'm sure those boys must felt very embarrassing..!!!
fanamicky 8 months ago
Uh....what was the guy referring to? Why didn't they touch whaaat? XDD; The mic?
Catleya5 8 months ago
:( why are they doing that...?
i mean, how can they treat dbsk like this...?
dbsk fighting!
hope they will be ONE dbsk one day.
bluemystery4 8 months ago
Whoaa what's with all the spamming here? D:
I think everyone should just stop fighting already and support all 5 <3
Always keep the faith <3
TAROlovex3 8 months ago
and that word from where.. jj right? so what`s that mean...?
that`s mean.. there is stil hope.. there is....
lot`s some love to them....
hlmieza 8 months ago
stop it friends... please.. don`t make any war again... jyj has their decision and HoMin has their reason to stay.. i thought as a cassie`s should respect what their decides... remember the word AKTF?.
IT DOESN`T MATTER HOW LONG U`VE BEEN CASSIE.. 3,4,OR 5 year...
and one more thing... if u said one word. media,tv..etc will create 100 words from there... and yes i also read and hear the news from korean news about them.. but i always believe 5.. and yes from twitter line jyj from tvxq...
hlmieza 8 months ago
changmin and j at the back doesn't seem to care which makes me think, if that guy really talking to them or someone else. anyway we can't do anything with you people who are trying to destroy not only SM but TVXQ! truth will come out eventually. and let me remind you your jyj oppas are not GOd, they make mistakes and blinded by money sometimes!
jairinealexa 8 months ago 2
it doesnt make sense though.. if he was reprimanding all of them then why are junsu and changmin just chillin in the back?
janer927 8 months ago
how can some of u ppl hate either jyj or homin. oh c'mon cassies, make peace jyj also were once TVXQ! they all went through all hardships together. plz don't forget that. remember, TVXQ! started as 5 members not 2. i believe they all have their own reasons, i will juz keep believing in them
aijaehan 8 months ago
@Supersofly1 @toniaj85 All i want is to see them happy together. but i can't even see their smiles. i watch all their recent music videos.JYJ during their tour concert, they look like they have fun. Somehow, when a fan screamed out loud "yunho" right when JJ was holding a mic. They all laugh but they give a very sad look. Yunho might never show anything but i can clearly see the quiet look in his eyes. Hes normally shy, rarely speaks in front of the media. But this look is completely different.
legendgirlcharlie 8 months ago
@Toniaj85 are you a CASS? or r u a JYJ fan? If ur a true cass, answer this question. Do you think that homin love the other 3 n the same goes to other 3? I believe they all do! I know about the contract, i heard it everywhere, i attempt to read it. This is what i think, homin might not be ready to get out of SM supervision. Thus, SM is powerful. another possibility could be they are happy with being under SM supervision (but i don't like the sound of it). All i want is to see them happy again.
legendgirlcharlie 8 months ago
hey@Supersofly1 , listen if you love homin then think for homin. Losing their friends, working under SM supervision, people keep asking why they never leave. Do you know how awful they feel?? If i were them, i would be devastated. Max & U-know may seem cool & strong outside, but inside they're not. They're trying their best. As a fan, support them. I hate it when some fans love somebody so much that they're willing to bash other singers. That ain't cool. Fans should spread love, not hatred.
legendgirlcharlie 8 months ago
@legendgirlcharlie Yes, they suffered a lot, I read about some awful episodes; agree, they are trying their best, that's why I support them. I am not bashing JYJ, I never went to JYJ vids, JYJ fans and OT5 are the ones coming to HOMIN videos and keep telling lies. I found out this video and then I read comments saying that maybe HOMIN were bribe not to leave or were scared of leaving. You should know that CH is not that kind of guy, they are not cowards, their letters say a lot...
SuperSofly1 8 months ago
@legendgirlcharlie Anyways dear, my intention was deffend HOMIN and correct some claims from misinformed fans, if that is bashing for you, it's your opinion but it's not the case, if only you can read that site and others like I did, perhaps you will realize what's going on. Let's spread love for Yunho and Changmin, take care. Thank you for not telling me I am an anti or insult me. Have a nice day.
SuperSofly1 8 months ago
@SuperSofly1 i appreciate your defense to Homin.. i gotta admit that sometimes JYJ fans really p me off.. I hate it when they're going crazy for JYJ n they keep bashing Homin.. That thing is the so-called "ignorance"... but that doesn't mean homin fans have to say bad stuffs to JYJ.. lets admit it!!!! both homin n jyj did a very job in their music videos n all the musical activities. Lets just stop this fight!!!! :)
legendgirlcharlie 8 months ago
@Supersofly1 @Toniaj85 GUYS!!! STOP THIS STUPID ARGUING.. I MEAN C'MON... WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DBSK RIGHT NOW.. WE'RE CASSIES.. WE'RE STRONG, TOUGH.. HATERS R EVERYWHERE. DUN LET HATRED CONSUME U GUYS.. I ADMIT THAT SOME JYJ FANS DISS HOMIN FANS OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND. I KNOW WE'RE ALL CRAZY.. THIS SITUATION IS INSANE.. BUT DAT DOESN'T MEAN DAT CREATING A FIGHT WILL SOLVE EVERYTHING.. WE NEED TO APPRECIATE DAT THEY'RE BROKEN UP BECUZ OF THEIR DECISIONS & SM.. :) AKTF - WHAT TRUE CASS WOULD DO..