Was the Ref an Irish Frenchman or a French Irishman.We beat one of his teams so he made sure we would not beat his other team.Hang your heah in shame IRB for not appointing a neutral ref but then coming out and supporting him
Smells like rage here ! Wales lost because of their lack of scoring their penalties ! France were bad, It was a fact and you didn't take your chance to beat us ! So who were the worst on the pitch ?
@llagin1234 "Wales created enough oppertunities" WOOOOT ??? except one, and it was just a mistake of our defence. You did 150 pass for 260m run, we did 55 pass for 220m run...
@martingriff101 As Francois Piennar and many others have said, the ref's job is not to go literally by the letter of the law but to manage the game. According to these experienced people, the ref made the wrong decision and ruined the game. Warburton's tackle was not malicious. Also, do you think it would be fair to France if a half-Welsh, half-New Zealand man was to ref the final? That's what it was like for Wales. Half-Irish (Wales had knocked them out), and half-French. The game was corrupt.
@1simonmatthews So what a ref has to take the game in to account before deciding a card if the french players neck was in any other position he could have had a very serious injusy so therefore a red card for me and a lot of other people. If the game was corrupt why was there no objection when people know who was going to ref the match and to even suggest that Rolland had an thing for Wales because ye beat us is way off the mark we were beaten fair and square
@1simonmatthews Also by that logic a ref from a country that have been beaten can not ref against that team ever. I like you never answered my question what you would have thought of rolland if ye won. The big question I want answered is why did Jones chicken out of taken the drop kick in the last moment plus ye missed 7-9 points in the game
@1simonmatthews If you think that the Irish would hold a grudge when we are beaten fair and square by a better team then (especially against the Welsh) you are an idiot. You've obviously never been to a Wales v's Ireland match and seen the affinity, respect and friendliness each have toward one another. I agree it was a decision that ruined the game and in my opinion the rest of the World Cup but stop with the conspiracy theories, everyone in Ireland was hoping to see Wales in the final.
@gedupawadat Yeah I've been commenting in different threads on this game, and reading this one in isolation it appears that I'm pissed off that the ref was half-Irish and half-French. Sorry if that pissed you off dude. The truth is, I'm only pissed off that the ref was half-French. This is what made that game corrupt, and nothing to do with him being half-Irish. I take back what I said about him being half-Irish, though I still think he's a frog prick, as do all of Wales.
@1simonmatthews No problem chief, I understand your anger/frustration, I knew before we played you that whoever of us won had a real chance to get to the final of a World cup, maybe even we the bleedin thing. It always seems to be the small nations that get fucked in these situations doesn't it? Anyway, you'll forget about it when you beat the cunts in Paris to win the grand slam next year. Take care.
Who played better - thas easy France. They won that's the final score 9-8. Wales created enough oppertunities in the game that saw them with a man disadvantage in the game over an hour and scored the only try of the game, also had the chances to win the game, penalty attempts kicking wasnt up to it and france scored there chances.
@Nick4700 What game was you watching? With one man down Wales still looked the better team for all the second half. And the only reason they were one man down is because the ref was half-French, so he shouldn't have even been allowed to ref the game. The game was corrupt. Other identical tackles in the tournament didn't lead to a red card. The reason he gave a red card is because he has French interests. His name is Alain Colm Pierre Rolland. In a rematch we'd stuff them. So stop talking shit.
@1simonmatthews look at the rules of the game beacause if you do there is a rulle that says if a player in put of his feet in a tackle like that he has to be brought down in a controlled fashion otherwise its a red card. If ye won I bet ye would say rolland was a great ref
@Nick4700 You're one of the 5% aren't you% Nearly every kiwi you'll ever meet is a good natured, happy, friendly person but there is a small minority of tools like you unfortunately. Well done the all blacks, they deserve to be world champions.
@Nick4700 wat the fuck are you smoking wales did not deserve to lose that game they did not play shit like you say, stupid fukin man go fukin watch x factor or strictley cause u haven't got a clue about rugby to say wales played shit omg if i was by you i would kick your fuckin clueless head in, people like you take the piss and make me angry knob head
"14 against 15 you're going to lose that eventually"
I seem to remember a certain England team before a World cup going down to 13 men after 2 were red carded but still won. Now where was that....... Oh yes in Wellington against the All Blacks joint favorites to win it. It is called character and Wales lacked it at the weekend against a poor side. Funny how the left wing press treat the two events. "This was not a vintage England performance who struggled in almost every phase of the game" BBC
@Raichu234 they played good rugby in the final it has to be said and i am man enough to admit i was way wrong but saying that they needed to up their game from the semi game i just feel maybe the welsh gave them something to think about going into the final by the way they showed them up in the semi finals so see ya fuckers in the 6 nations
'14 against 15 you're going to lose that eventually'.
That is utter bolix Wales lost the game for themselves, France just sat back and kicked the ball to Wales thinking they had the game won and Wales just kicked it right back to them. Roberts even said after the game that that was their game plan. They had a better chance with 14 men than with 15.
Wales played well but Wales missed 3 penalty kicks, 1 drop and 1 transformation.
Quite easy to try and vent your frustration at the refereree, France or whatever. But maybe you should start by blaming yourself for not taking your chances when you could have.
And no need to be disrespectful to the French. It's a SPORT!
... And Rolland better not show his face in Wales or there'll be a queue miles long to rearrange it for him.
Wales were robbed pure and simple and France were dreadful. They clung on to only just beat a team of 14 men. If Wales had kicked their opportunities they'd have beaten France. Typical French fans in the clip happy to have won a game they didn't win themselves it was won for them by the ref. I'm predicting 40+ for the ABs on Sunday maybe 9 to France. I hope they get really destroyed by t
@yogbert Wales had a better chance with 14 men, France sat back after the sending off, Wales lost it for themselves and Warburton can only blame himself for getting sent off.
@chickenwithachainsaw It doesn't matter if he meant to do it, THAT is fucking retarded and irrelevant, he committed a serious infraction of the rules. As the letter of the rules go Rolland got it completely right. Don't reply back to this if you can't understand that Rolland was justified in the actions he took. What Rolland got wrong was giving Wales a penalty in the last few minutes when it should have been a French penalty. In that instance Rolland basically handed the game to Wales.
@suppernoddypo2k7 The IRB rules say "The lifted player is dropped to the ground from a height with no regard to the player’s safety (red card offence)".
As I see it, it comes down to whether you see Warburton as not having regard to Clerc's safety. Note that a 'tip tackle' does not, therefore, automatically lead to a red card, only a 'tip tackle' without regard to safety.
Its a pity that the IRB decided it was fair to referee a match between Wales who knocked out Ireland and France with a referee who was born in Ireland and who's father is French.
The truth is in all the other world cup games players only got yellow cards for similar tackles, regardless of the wording of the rules of the game, incidentally which are overseen by an Irish man.
The only other red card was to Paul Williams for striking a player and he didnt even get a ban.
A pity the competition's 2 best teams- New Zealand and Wales- aren't in the final together. That would have been something to relish. France will have to raise their game to whole new levels. They can consider themselves very lucky to have come this far. Wales have hope for the future and have restored the country's rugby reputation. I'm not keen on 3rd place play-offs which are an anti-climax for both beaten semi-finalists
Wales were the better team. France have gone down hill in rugby. New Zealend are going to kill them all. THAT REF WHO SENT WARBURTON OFF IS A COMPLETE WANKER. Alot of angry people hate the man. including me
@erakingofsea bit harsh calling the ABs arrogant, u obviously didnt see the press conference after the semi, i havent heard any of them come out & say theyre gonna hammer france, i think youll find that the media are talking the ABs up
@hailee2005 anyyway, The best team lost in final today....The domination of the French against All blacks was clear, thanks only to the South African guy that NZ won this cup !
@Jimipedia I am French, and you are right .... Everyone in France is furious at the bad play of our team. But the red card was justified ... and honestly ... this Sunday ... The team of France will eat the grass! but as good spporter ... GO THE BLUES!
Was the Ref an Irish Frenchman or a French Irishman.We beat one of his teams so he made sure we would not beat his other team.Hang your heah in shame IRB for not appointing a neutral ref but then coming out and supporting him
TheBluebirdkev 4 months ago
The Welsh are you happy now ? did the ref help us ? Anyway, well done NZ !
Bombo971 4 months ago
Smells like rage here ! Wales lost because of their lack of scoring their penalties ! France were bad, It was a fact and you didn't take your chance to beat us ! So who were the worst on the pitch ?
Bombo971 4 months ago
i cant wait till the all blacks rip those french twats apart<3
TheNathanJohn123 4 months ago
@llagin1234 "Wales created enough oppertunities" WOOOOT ??? except one, and it was just a mistake of our defence. You did 150 pass for 260m run, we did 55 pass for 220m run...
TheBerth0 4 months ago
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WELL PAID FRANCE!!
Sorry, I mean played- yes, played, that's what I meant to say...
SuperTruth77 4 months ago
All these years I thought Rolland was a rat, and now I find out he's a fucking frog!
1simonmatthews 4 months ago
@1simonmatthews wekk if you look at the rules as he did not bring him down in a controlled fashion its a red card so he did his job
martingriff101 4 months ago
@martingriff101 As Francois Piennar and many others have said, the ref's job is not to go literally by the letter of the law but to manage the game. According to these experienced people, the ref made the wrong decision and ruined the game. Warburton's tackle was not malicious. Also, do you think it would be fair to France if a half-Welsh, half-New Zealand man was to ref the final? That's what it was like for Wales. Half-Irish (Wales had knocked them out), and half-French. The game was corrupt.
1simonmatthews 4 months ago
@1simonmatthews So what a ref has to take the game in to account before deciding a card if the french players neck was in any other position he could have had a very serious injusy so therefore a red card for me and a lot of other people. If the game was corrupt why was there no objection when people know who was going to ref the match and to even suggest that Rolland had an thing for Wales because ye beat us is way off the mark we were beaten fair and square
martingriff101 4 months ago
@1simonmatthews Also by that logic a ref from a country that have been beaten can not ref against that team ever. I like you never answered my question what you would have thought of rolland if ye won. The big question I want answered is why did Jones chicken out of taken the drop kick in the last moment plus ye missed 7-9 points in the game
martingriff101 4 months ago
@1simonmatthews If you think that the Irish would hold a grudge when we are beaten fair and square by a better team then (especially against the Welsh) you are an idiot. You've obviously never been to a Wales v's Ireland match and seen the affinity, respect and friendliness each have toward one another. I agree it was a decision that ruined the game and in my opinion the rest of the World Cup but stop with the conspiracy theories, everyone in Ireland was hoping to see Wales in the final.
gedupawadat 4 months ago
@gedupawadat Yeah I've been commenting in different threads on this game, and reading this one in isolation it appears that I'm pissed off that the ref was half-Irish and half-French. Sorry if that pissed you off dude. The truth is, I'm only pissed off that the ref was half-French. This is what made that game corrupt, and nothing to do with him being half-Irish. I take back what I said about him being half-Irish, though I still think he's a frog prick, as do all of Wales.
1simonmatthews 4 months ago
@1simonmatthews No problem chief, I understand your anger/frustration, I knew before we played you that whoever of us won had a real chance to get to the final of a World cup, maybe even we the bleedin thing. It always seems to be the small nations that get fucked in these situations doesn't it? Anyway, you'll forget about it when you beat the cunts in Paris to win the grand slam next year. Take care.
gedupawadat 4 months ago
But id like to add New-Zealand WONT Waste there kicking or try scoring chances go begging so easy - good luck French (You're Gonna Need It)
llagin1234 4 months ago
No one remembers the nearly men the great teams of the past all that's rememberd is the winners - that is what you see in the record books.
llagin1234 4 months ago
Who played better - thas easy France. They won that's the final score 9-8. Wales created enough oppertunities in the game that saw them with a man disadvantage in the game over an hour and scored the only try of the game, also had the chances to win the game, penalty attempts kicking wasnt up to it and france scored there chances.
llagin1234 4 months ago
wales played shit, France deserved to win, red card or not
Nick4700 4 months ago
@Nick4700 What game was you watching? With one man down Wales still looked the better team for all the second half. And the only reason they were one man down is because the ref was half-French, so he shouldn't have even been allowed to ref the game. The game was corrupt. Other identical tackles in the tournament didn't lead to a red card. The reason he gave a red card is because he has French interests. His name is Alain Colm Pierre Rolland. In a rematch we'd stuff them. So stop talking shit.
1simonmatthews 4 months ago
@1simonmatthews look at the rules of the game beacause if you do there is a rulle that says if a player in put of his feet in a tackle like that he has to be brought down in a controlled fashion otherwise its a red card. If ye won I bet ye would say rolland was a great ref
martingriff101 4 months ago
@Nick4700 You're one of the 5% aren't you% Nearly every kiwi you'll ever meet is a good natured, happy, friendly person but there is a small minority of tools like you unfortunately. Well done the all blacks, they deserve to be world champions.
gedupawadat 4 months ago
@Nick4700 wat the fuck are you smoking wales did not deserve to lose that game they did not play shit like you say, stupid fukin man go fukin watch x factor or strictley cause u haven't got a clue about rugby to say wales played shit omg if i was by you i would kick your fuckin clueless head in, people like you take the piss and make me angry knob head
MegaHitman1982 2 months ago
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If the ref was wrong why have Wales decided not to appeal against Warburton's ban? Because they know the ref was right, thats why.
w423350 4 months ago
"14 against 15 you're going to lose that eventually"
I seem to remember a certain England team before a World cup going down to 13 men after 2 were red carded but still won. Now where was that....... Oh yes in Wellington against the All Blacks joint favorites to win it. It is called character and Wales lacked it at the weekend against a poor side. Funny how the left wing press treat the two events. "This was not a vintage England performance who struggled in almost every phase of the game" BBC
fairplaynationalist2 4 months ago
salut ça va ?
TheBerth0 4 months ago
@TheBerth0 Ouais à fond, Allez les Bleus !! ^^
ScaPotes 4 months ago
well he has been banned for 3 weeks which shows the irb stance on things
IrishDub18 4 months ago
how can any french supporter be happy with that performance, fukin idiots your gonna get smashed in the final
MegaHitman1982 4 months ago 2
@MegaHitman1982 You are just fuckin loosers with 20 % kicks !!
Spkill06 4 months ago
@Spkill06 what the fuck do u know u yank twat, stick to baseball and gridiron fuckin pussy
MegaHitman1982 4 months ago
@MegaHitman1982 were they smashed I don't think so!
Raichu234 3 months ago
@Raichu234 they played good rugby in the final it has to be said and i am man enough to admit i was way wrong but saying that they needed to up their game from the semi game i just feel maybe the welsh gave them something to think about going into the final by the way they showed them up in the semi finals so see ya fuckers in the 6 nations
MegaHitman1982 2 months ago
'14 against 15 you're going to lose that eventually'.
That is utter bolix Wales lost the game for themselves, France just sat back and kicked the ball to Wales thinking they had the game won and Wales just kicked it right back to them. Roberts even said after the game that that was their game plan. They had a better chance with 14 men than with 15.
suppernoddypo2k7 4 months ago
Wales played well but Wales missed 3 penalty kicks, 1 drop and 1 transformation.
Quite easy to try and vent your frustration at the refereree, France or whatever. But maybe you should start by blaming yourself for not taking your chances when you could have.
And no need to be disrespectful to the French. It's a SPORT!
zeugmator 4 months ago
... Get really destroyed by the All Blacks now and that's because of Rolland.
I'm certainly looking forward to Wales v France in Cardiff next year.
yogbert 4 months ago
... And Rolland better not show his face in Wales or there'll be a queue miles long to rearrange it for him.
Wales were robbed pure and simple and France were dreadful. They clung on to only just beat a team of 14 men. If Wales had kicked their opportunities they'd have beaten France. Typical French fans in the clip happy to have won a game they didn't win themselves it was won for them by the ref. I'm predicting 40+ for the ABs on Sunday maybe 9 to France. I hope they get really destroyed by t
yogbert 4 months ago
@yogbert Wales had a better chance with 14 men, France sat back after the sending off, Wales lost it for themselves and Warburton can only blame himself for getting sent off.
suppernoddypo2k7 4 months ago
@suppernoddypo2k7 how is it his fault it was an accident he didnt deliberatly do it. And he never deserved a red card alain rolland is a retard
chickenwithachainsaw 4 months ago
@chickenwithachainsaw It doesn't matter if he meant to do it, THAT is fucking retarded and irrelevant, he committed a serious infraction of the rules. As the letter of the rules go Rolland got it completely right. Don't reply back to this if you can't understand that Rolland was justified in the actions he took. What Rolland got wrong was giving Wales a penalty in the last few minutes when it should have been a French penalty. In that instance Rolland basically handed the game to Wales.
suppernoddypo2k7 4 months ago
@suppernoddypo2k7 The IRB rules say "The lifted player is dropped to the ground from a height with no regard to the player’s safety (red card offence)".
As I see it, it comes down to whether you see Warburton as not having regard to Clerc's safety. Note that a 'tip tackle' does not, therefore, automatically lead to a red card, only a 'tip tackle' without regard to safety.
Suwaldo 4 months ago
Its a pity that the IRB decided it was fair to referee a match between Wales who knocked out Ireland and France with a referee who was born in Ireland and who's father is French.
The truth is in all the other world cup games players only got yellow cards for similar tackles, regardless of the wording of the rules of the game, incidentally which are overseen by an Irish man.
The only other red card was to Paul Williams for striking a player and he didnt even get a ban.
The IRB are shameful and
yogbert 4 months ago
A pity the competition's 2 best teams- New Zealand and Wales- aren't in the final together. That would have been something to relish. France will have to raise their game to whole new levels. They can consider themselves very lucky to have come this far. Wales have hope for the future and have restored the country's rugby reputation. I'm not keen on 3rd place play-offs which are an anti-climax for both beaten semi-finalists
mizofan 4 months ago
christ he kept his composure well then.
Jasonwakeboarder256 4 months ago
Wales were the better team. France have gone down hill in rugby. New Zealend are going to kill them all. THAT REF WHO SENT WARBURTON OFF IS A COMPLETE WANKER. Alot of angry people hate the man. including me
jonzo108 4 months ago
@jonzo10 hum...it's not sure ! France can play sometimes an amazing rugby and sometimes really bad.
I think the All Blacks are arrogant, they forget that France already won twice in World cup against NZ.
It's the 3rd times that France is in final in the rugby world cup. Don't be so angry !
The most important thing is the VICTORY ! End of the story !
How many times France lost against England in the six Nations Championship and they played far better than the English team ? too much times!
erakingofsea 4 months ago
@erakingofsea bit harsh calling the ABs arrogant, u obviously didnt see the press conference after the semi, i havent heard any of them come out & say theyre gonna hammer france, i think youll find that the media are talking the ABs up
hailee2005 4 months ago
@hailee2005 anyyway, The best team lost in final today....The domination of the French against All blacks was clear, thanks only to the South African guy that NZ won this cup !
erakingofsea 4 months ago
@erakingofsea the best team in the tournament won, u cant argue with that
hailee2005 4 months ago
Don't worry, All Blacks will eat them alive next week!
Jimipedia 4 months ago 14
@Jimipedia Is is true the PM will lose the next election if the All Blacks lose?
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@Jimipedia Yeah yeah... England was already supposed to do that last week, so was Wales yesterday...
RaychSeldon33 4 months ago
@Jimipedia rugby is a sport you know, we're not in war are we, keep ur nerves please
pauloolem 4 months ago
@Jimipedia I am French, and you are right .... Everyone in France is furious at the bad play of our team. But the red card was justified ... and honestly ... this Sunday ... The team of France will eat the grass! but as good spporter ... GO THE BLUES!
Mich9942 4 months ago
@Jimipedia Just like I ate you mom last week
Kr4zYG4m3r 4 months ago
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ScaPotes 4 months ago
@Jimipedia Like in 2007 of course ?!? xD Allez les bleus !!
ScaPotes 4 months ago