@TaskForceSixTwoSix no, i understand your point, but putting up real info is doing the same thing without the hate. If they start again i will put them back up.
@sanke00001 Got cut off- the ninpiden are woeful at best. And perhaps when you yourself can read modern Japanese, you can comment on the ancient. And Ninja manuals? What? Do you mean densho? Or yet more 'evidence' your team have come up with.
@sanke00001 so point out the mistakes and your corrections? But how would you know. You just told me you would never read or buy my books because you get laughed at. Mate you are lying, just leave the site or publish your own version. You can not find anything. You are just upset Hatsumi is fake. In the best way i can, just go an envy your trining and leave the site to people who are interested in real ninjutsu. Cheers for your comments but i have seen loads of you come and go.
@TSOAS2008 First off, I'm not upset about anything other than your laughable research. I do not believe Hatsumi sensei is a fake, but that's neither here nor there, as I'm not even a part of any of the X-kans in the first place. And how am I lying for expressing my opinions? Also, just because I would rather not waste money on your publications doesn't mean I haven't had a chance to go through them. Tell you what, just for you, I'll find some personal favourite mistakes and we can discus them.
@TSOAS2008 And for the record, from what you've posted, I wouldn't trust a thing from your books to be even close to accurate, so just saying that I haven't read them is honestly a point in my favour from my point of view mate.
@TSOAS2008 That the thing, with enough time and effort I probably could, but I already know for a fact that many people have already done this, my Sensei being one of them, and your responses have almost always been derogatory or evasive, and a long way from 'all ears'. Your 5 translations are honestly not even that, your informations of the ninpiden
@TSOAS2008 Oh, just in the hope that in the unlikely event that someone actually thinks you know what you're talking about, they might read this and save themselves the bother. Your work ethic is frankly appalling, and I felt the need to express that. When (or if) that changes, I'll look at your books again, but I'm not holding my breath.
@sanke00001 Well when you find any problems with the 5 Translations we have out there and you can correct the old Japanese, or when the new book comes out with quotes from over 50 ninja manuals or when you can proove where we are wrong. We are all ears!
@TSOAS2008 I'll save my money, thanks. One of our students bought one of your books, and the ridicule he received was enough to put me off, not to speak of how awful they are in the first place.
Good god Anthony... how about you do some ACTUAL research for once, and then maybe you can come and tell us about your amazing discoveries. Utter rubbish.
@TSOAS2008 i did, but i stopped doing it about a a year ago, far too much trouble, now i tend to do only posiive findings or pure history and let people see themselves. i try to avoid indiviual schools unless i have good news.
Well it's nice to see a connection - even if indirect - has been made. As far as Ninjutsu as a Martial Art; if you look at the Togakure techniques, they're really aimed at escape, not "fighting it out." Ninjutsu is a martial art - as in method for war. So even if only the spying elements were there - it would still be a martial art. But as for the "fighting", I think it would be safe to say they're a unique application of samurai methods for combat. Just my .02. Thanks for the vid
Some dojo's have already tapped into other clans styles. History should not be forgotten or argued about, but history in the evolution of the 'styles' is being made. But do us all a favor. Don't smear it all over the fricken internet. The clans should be brothers 'now', not still enemies from the past.
I agree with Anthony. Even if there was some form of hidden way of fighting it would in no way be exclusive to Ninjutsu, almost every martial art aims to exploit the weaknesses of their opponent by means of misdirection and other sneaky tactics. The whole point of Ninja was to not be seen or discovered so why would they spend time developing a fighting system that they never intended on using ?
I realize the objective for this research team is to be unbiased and fair. But the mere axiom that "There isn't a Ninja fighting art" puts ChosunNinja who claims his "Korean Ninja Lineage" is a fighting Ninja art.
I remember the facebook hayes thing, I don't think that anyone who considers themselves a ninja student should have any problem with expanding there knowledge base, especially since hatsumi said almost three decades ago that he wasn't going to teach ninjutsu anymore, if he ever did, and hayes said the same thing years later. Also, why isn't everyone just looking at this and saying yes ninja is not a martial art, all the scrolls within public hands show nothing of ninja fighting techniques.
Shinobi and samurai our kinda like looking at contractors and soldiers today. Its just that hayes hatsumi ashida and lot of others are claiming that it is ninjutsu its not its the same arts just with little different twist on it "warfare"
I always hear you say there was no specific fighting arts among Shinobi. I find it hard to believe that amongst all those highly armed samurai the Shinobi didn't have their own specific fighting art which bore the marks of their more esoteric philosophies.
@BrotherBones1111 Why are their philosophies more esoteric? The normal samurai had the same religious training. Also, manuals say a ninja should NOT fight and also, they were interegrated with the samurai, they probably knew more samurai than shinobi-samurai. I get your logic, and i like the talk, but i think you are basing it on pop ideas, not history (not offence at all). The ninja had some fighting hints, but not combat, more like, in the dark go here, or in a room go there, thats it
@TSOAS2008 Cool, It makes sense. I've been reading of historical battles and am trying to get a sense of it all. As far as esoteric philosphies - didn't Shugendo start in that area, around that time. I think their founder was a shamanic ascetic. I'm just trying to understand things from a more human and cultural perspective. I claim no real knowledge on the subject - I'm here to find out. Ps as a fellow, fellow of the North West, your passion makes me proud. Cheers!
@BrotherBones1111 I do not mean to be rude here, but please allow me to inerject and say that you must not think the goal of the shinobi is "to be a shinobi". The goal of a shinobi is to serve his lord/clan. He may possess a very esoteric mindset, but the actual arts of shinobi are very human and down to earth. Shinobi-no-jutsu works because day-to-day life is so mundane. It depends on day-to-day life being mundane. It requires humans to act in predictable ways.
@SweetgrassScout I understand and agree with most of your points. However from what I've read in Anthony's Ninja manual translations, their thinking was pretty bloody esoteric. As was their choice of warfare tactic in all that sneaking around rather than the cultural norm of head-on fighting.
@BrotherBones1111 I suppose what I'm really getting at, is that those that are really good at any skill or art are the ones that live it. History has shown that the good spies are the ones whom developed a mindset for the role. This then leaks into all other areas of a persons life. It becomes a philosophy by which they live their lives. Samurai or not, surely the 'Ninja' mindset would have been present in their martial art. I know this is completely without evidence. Just a good point.
@BrotherBones1111 I can't help but feel the same way. I mean, you look at Jutaijutsu, which is essentially Jujutsu as it is taught and practiced in the Bujinkan, and compare it to other Koryu Jujutsu schools, and you will find a very different feel about it. There may be a lot of similarities and even parallels in technique, but it is the way it is delivered that is different. Movements are more hidden and elusive. This is where I feel the Ninja mind comes into play!
@ExposeChosunNinja sorry paul, how does a ninja move more "hidden" if a ninja is fighting he has failed his job, his job is to not be seen. The ONLy time a ninja fights is capturing someone. So it makes no sense. Sorry, this is just one of those logical lines that does not work. If a ninja is fighting, it is because he is in a battle, no need to hide or he has been found, which means he is about to die or be tortured. There is no "feel" of the hidden. That is a modern idea.
@TSOAS2008 I know we disagree on this, and I accept that. I was however replying to BrotherBones1111's comment. These are simply my perceptions and feelings on the issue, and I feel I have a right to them, as you have a right to yours. The hidden movements I see as a logical tactic if one wants to win! Ninja or otherwise!
@ExposeChosunNinja hahah thats ok paul! just wanted to say. So all friendly banter. But a ninja sneaking through a castle gets caught, the guard grabs him and he gets out of it in a ninja sneaky way. People keep saying this. Its just outragous. He would be pepered with arrows and chain and smashed to teh floor, he has four rings of castle walls to get out of! The ninja sneaky fighting is way to silly an argument no offence. but it does not fit in any situation. hope you are well.
@TSOAS2008 Yes I'm fine. I just hope that just because you are trying now to work with the Bujinkan membership, that you don't expect that we're all going to just fall in line with your point of view! The information is good, but opinions are like noses. Everyone's got one, and they're all a bit different. Trying to change the look of someone else's nose without their consent usually ends badly for one or the other involved.
@TSOAS2008 Right now I like the look of my nose. If at some point I decide that it is ugly, I will change it! That however will have to be my decision.
@ExposeChosunNinja hahaha fair enough, still when you come over to the dark side, everything is clearer and works in history! But until then, enjoy the nose! (whens your next vid?)
@BrotherBones1111 You are more than welcome mate, ignore me and ste, we live this stuff so it seems like we bully, but we do not, we just get the same questions everyday. No one knows when ninjutsu started, first appears in history in the 1300's. Shugendo was in teh same place, but so were samurai, there is a connection but a samurai would also do shugendo, however me and ste have found some proper ninja magic, so you are not too far away! Have you got the PDF's from website?
@TSOAS2008 That's alreet chief, I can understand the strain of so many Ninja fantasists pecking your head. ...Yeah I've got some of your PDFs from a while back, can't remember the specific 'Ninja Magic' you speak of. Can you point me in the right direction - I'm very interested in this area. Cheers Mate!
Although I've never quite believed any of the martial art I practice was really historically accurate 'Ninjutsu'. And conversely always trusted your research. I can't shake off the feeling that there is some truth that ninja their own fighting art. Surely in a feudal society, with a social class of warriors, the Shinobi would have a martial art which reflected their character and mindset - ie: very refined and a bit sly. I'm not saying Takamatsu's art was it - but surely saying Ninjutsu
@BrotherBones1111 Also, in the majority of records, memoirs, and manuals we have read, when it comes down to actual physical combat, it usually says something like "before he can announce your presence, run into him and slam him into the wall and then stab him in the gut numerous times until he is clearly dead.." Nothing esoteric or poetic-- just cold hard murder. That is the reality. It does not take any type of "style" to ram a piece of metal into someone until they die.
(the way these shinobi went about their trade ) wouldn't have included how to deal with their enemies in a way which was idiosyncratic of their practical and spiritually stoic way of life. Ok not being there to have to fight is good - but surely the famous martial arts schools in the Iga/ Koga area would have been teaching the same arts used by shinobi - and I don't just mean foot soldiers. It only makes sense some shinobi would have developed it into something fit for professional purpose.
Yes, this is a better idea. The darkness is automatically dispelled by the light. And if anything is corrupt or incorrect, then the truth will automatically weed everything wrong out, no matter the complexity of the lie. Because the truth is unbendable and unbreakable.
If we stick with putting out the truth, then both it, and the deceivers themselves, will do all of the debunking for you.
@TSOAS2008 If we can come together in Ninpo as one family, like Ichigun Ichinen in the old days, hopefuly we can save the Ninja Way from vanishing forever into the mists of history.
Why wouldn't a researcher share his information, and the sources of his information, if the research of another person has uncovered information that may challenge or support his information? Wouldn't he want to prove his authenticity?
Little confused Anthony/Steve.Anthony you want to work with the blatant frauds of the world.And steven at 5:49 is totally against the fake's.Been following you guys since you first came onto youtube.And i kind of understand were you want go with this.But all i see you guys doing is giving more TTPs(training,tactics,Procedures).To the fake's.Witch they then in turn claim as there own.To further there Lieing/BS.It is already happening.Little worried about how this will effect the community.
@ToLightToFight Hi mate, thanks for sticking with us. I know what you mean, i think what we mean is those who try to at least follow what could be real or put one foot in each camp and those who are somewhat insane and just do weird things. So no direct conflict in what we say. But i do agree as well, the fakes are taking our stuff and twisting it. So if we know where Takamatsu "stole" his ideas from, we can cut off only false leads. But we are worried about that too! :)
Taking all of your videos down criticizing chosonninja and the bujinkan was extremely lame.
TaskForceSixTwoSix 2 weeks ago
@TaskForceSixTwoSix no, i understand your point, but putting up real info is doing the same thing without the hate. If they start again i will put them back up.
TSOAS2008 2 weeks ago
Anthony well said, I'm sick of all these people slagging each others arts off.
wolfq 3 weeks ago 4
@sanke00001 Got cut off- the ninpiden are woeful at best. And perhaps when you yourself can read modern Japanese, you can comment on the ancient. And Ninja manuals? What? Do you mean densho? Or yet more 'evidence' your team have come up with.
sanke00001 1 month ago
@sanke00001 so point out the mistakes and your corrections? But how would you know. You just told me you would never read or buy my books because you get laughed at. Mate you are lying, just leave the site or publish your own version. You can not find anything. You are just upset Hatsumi is fake. In the best way i can, just go an envy your trining and leave the site to people who are interested in real ninjutsu. Cheers for your comments but i have seen loads of you come and go.
TSOAS2008 1 month ago 4
@TSOAS2008 First off, I'm not upset about anything other than your laughable research. I do not believe Hatsumi sensei is a fake, but that's neither here nor there, as I'm not even a part of any of the X-kans in the first place. And how am I lying for expressing my opinions? Also, just because I would rather not waste money on your publications doesn't mean I haven't had a chance to go through them. Tell you what, just for you, I'll find some personal favourite mistakes and we can discus them.
sanke00001 1 month ago
@TSOAS2008 And for the record, from what you've posted, I wouldn't trust a thing from your books to be even close to accurate, so just saying that I haven't read them is honestly a point in my favour from my point of view mate.
sanke00001 1 month ago
@TSOAS2008 That the thing, with enough time and effort I probably could, but I already know for a fact that many people have already done this, my Sensei being one of them, and your responses have almost always been derogatory or evasive, and a long way from 'all ears'. Your 5 translations are honestly not even that, your informations of the ninpiden
sanke00001 1 month ago
@TSOAS2008 Oh, just in the hope that in the unlikely event that someone actually thinks you know what you're talking about, they might read this and save themselves the bother. Your work ethic is frankly appalling, and I felt the need to express that. When (or if) that changes, I'll look at your books again, but I'm not holding my breath.
sanke00001 1 month ago
@sanke00001 Well when you find any problems with the 5 Translations we have out there and you can correct the old Japanese, or when the new book comes out with quotes from over 50 ninja manuals or when you can proove where we are wrong. We are all ears!
TSOAS2008 1 month ago 4
@TSOAS2008 I'll save my money, thanks. One of our students bought one of your books, and the ridicule he received was enough to put me off, not to speak of how awful they are in the first place.
sanke00001 1 month ago
@sanke00001 well why are you here?
TSOAS2008 1 month ago
Good god Anthony... how about you do some ACTUAL research for once, and then maybe you can come and tell us about your amazing discoveries. Utter rubbish.
sanke00001 1 month ago
@sanke00001 New book on amazon, 250 page of brand new stuff - feel free to pre-order it.
TSOAS2008 1 month ago
So now are you going to address the transsexual that runs budo ryu known as Chris Jacobson? (christa)
I'd like to see you bust the myths on that one,I've heard she claims to know and teach the bujinkan system without the masters blessing or what not?
Taud 1 month ago 3
@Taud i am sure there are loads of teachers teaching bujinkan. She is bringing out a book with info in. people are waiting for that.
TSOAS2008 1 month ago
@TSOAS2008
That's too bad you've investigated other teachings
So you wont actually be investigating her school and her martial art?
I thought thats what you did, authentic ninjutsu research....
Taud 1 month ago
@TSOAS2008 i did, but i stopped doing it about a a year ago, far too much trouble, now i tend to do only posiive findings or pure history and let people see themselves. i try to avoid indiviual schools unless i have good news.
TSOAS2008 1 month ago
Well it's nice to see a connection - even if indirect - has been made. As far as Ninjutsu as a Martial Art; if you look at the Togakure techniques, they're really aimed at escape, not "fighting it out." Ninjutsu is a martial art - as in method for war. So even if only the spying elements were there - it would still be a martial art. But as for the "fighting", I think it would be safe to say they're a unique application of samurai methods for combat. Just my .02. Thanks for the vid
ShinobiNoTodai 2 months ago 2
great video.
FreedomOfDefense 2 months ago 3
Some dojo's have already tapped into other clans styles. History should not be forgotten or argued about, but history in the evolution of the 'styles' is being made. But do us all a favor. Don't smear it all over the fricken internet. The clans should be brothers 'now', not still enemies from the past.
jdavize 3 months ago
nice video guys, good step forward!
iamjaykane 3 months ago 2
I agree with Anthony. Even if there was some form of hidden way of fighting it would in no way be exclusive to Ninjutsu, almost every martial art aims to exploit the weaknesses of their opponent by means of misdirection and other sneaky tactics. The whole point of Ninja was to not be seen or discovered so why would they spend time developing a fighting system that they never intended on using ?
markus123452 3 months ago 4
I realize the objective for this research team is to be unbiased and fair. But the mere axiom that "There isn't a Ninja fighting art" puts ChosunNinja who claims his "Korean Ninja Lineage" is a fighting Ninja art.
BlackShinobiShozoku 4 months ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku Put's ChosunNinja out of the picture*
BlackShinobiShozoku 4 months ago
Just train jiu jitsu. The art of the samurai . No mystery just truth.
rctrue 4 months ago
@rctrue Jujutsu is not the art of the samurai. There's some traditional ryuha that don't come from Samurai.
Although many Samurai had skills in Jujutsu. Samurai was a social class, and a lot of them were bureaucrats.
BlackShinobiShozoku 4 months ago
@rctrue furthermore even samurai ryuha have discrepancies in their lineages.
BlackShinobiShozoku 4 months ago
I remember the facebook hayes thing, I don't think that anyone who considers themselves a ninja student should have any problem with expanding there knowledge base, especially since hatsumi said almost three decades ago that he wasn't going to teach ninjutsu anymore, if he ever did, and hayes said the same thing years later. Also, why isn't everyone just looking at this and saying yes ninja is not a martial art, all the scrolls within public hands show nothing of ninja fighting techniques.
elvenarmory 4 months ago
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Shinobi and samurai our kinda like looking at contractors and soldiers today. Its just that hayes hatsumi ashida and lot of others are claiming that it is ninjutsu its not its the same arts just with little different twist on it "warfare"
jmmurdy 4 months ago
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Shinobi and samurai our kinda like looking at contractors and soldiers today.
jmmurdy 4 months ago
Is it that important to follow one particular ninjutsu branch???
Since there is no real world application for ninjutsu anyway, you can get along and have fun together.
I'd love to learn ninjutsu, but there are no such schools in Stuttgart.
SEThatered 4 months ago
I always hear you say there was no specific fighting arts among Shinobi. I find it hard to believe that amongst all those highly armed samurai the Shinobi didn't have their own specific fighting art which bore the marks of their more esoteric philosophies.
BrotherBones1111 4 months ago
@BrotherBones1111 Why are their philosophies more esoteric? The normal samurai had the same religious training. Also, manuals say a ninja should NOT fight and also, they were interegrated with the samurai, they probably knew more samurai than shinobi-samurai. I get your logic, and i like the talk, but i think you are basing it on pop ideas, not history (not offence at all). The ninja had some fighting hints, but not combat, more like, in the dark go here, or in a room go there, thats it
TSOAS2008 4 months ago
@TSOAS2008 Cool, It makes sense. I've been reading of historical battles and am trying to get a sense of it all. As far as esoteric philosphies - didn't Shugendo start in that area, around that time. I think their founder was a shamanic ascetic. I'm just trying to understand things from a more human and cultural perspective. I claim no real knowledge on the subject - I'm here to find out. Ps as a fellow, fellow of the North West, your passion makes me proud. Cheers!
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@BrotherBones1111 I do not mean to be rude here, but please allow me to inerject and say that you must not think the goal of the shinobi is "to be a shinobi". The goal of a shinobi is to serve his lord/clan. He may possess a very esoteric mindset, but the actual arts of shinobi are very human and down to earth. Shinobi-no-jutsu works because day-to-day life is so mundane. It depends on day-to-day life being mundane. It requires humans to act in predictable ways.
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@SweetgrassScout I understand and agree with most of your points. However from what I've read in Anthony's Ninja manual translations, their thinking was pretty bloody esoteric. As was their choice of warfare tactic in all that sneaking around rather than the cultural norm of head-on fighting.
BrotherBones1111 4 months ago
@BrotherBones1111 I suppose what I'm really getting at, is that those that are really good at any skill or art are the ones that live it. History has shown that the good spies are the ones whom developed a mindset for the role. This then leaks into all other areas of a persons life. It becomes a philosophy by which they live their lives. Samurai or not, surely the 'Ninja' mindset would have been present in their martial art. I know this is completely without evidence. Just a good point.
BrotherBones1111 4 months ago 2
@BrotherBones1111 I can't help but feel the same way. I mean, you look at Jutaijutsu, which is essentially Jujutsu as it is taught and practiced in the Bujinkan, and compare it to other Koryu Jujutsu schools, and you will find a very different feel about it. There may be a lot of similarities and even parallels in technique, but it is the way it is delivered that is different. Movements are more hidden and elusive. This is where I feel the Ninja mind comes into play!
ExposeChosunNinja 4 months ago 3
@ExposeChosunNinja sorry paul, how does a ninja move more "hidden" if a ninja is fighting he has failed his job, his job is to not be seen. The ONLy time a ninja fights is capturing someone. So it makes no sense. Sorry, this is just one of those logical lines that does not work. If a ninja is fighting, it is because he is in a battle, no need to hide or he has been found, which means he is about to die or be tortured. There is no "feel" of the hidden. That is a modern idea.
TSOAS2008 4 months ago
@TSOAS2008 I know we disagree on this, and I accept that. I was however replying to BrotherBones1111's comment. These are simply my perceptions and feelings on the issue, and I feel I have a right to them, as you have a right to yours. The hidden movements I see as a logical tactic if one wants to win! Ninja or otherwise!
ExposeChosunNinja 4 months ago
@ExposeChosunNinja hahah thats ok paul! just wanted to say. So all friendly banter. But a ninja sneaking through a castle gets caught, the guard grabs him and he gets out of it in a ninja sneaky way. People keep saying this. Its just outragous. He would be pepered with arrows and chain and smashed to teh floor, he has four rings of castle walls to get out of! The ninja sneaky fighting is way to silly an argument no offence. but it does not fit in any situation. hope you are well.
TSOAS2008 4 months ago
@TSOAS2008 Yes I'm fine. I just hope that just because you are trying now to work with the Bujinkan membership, that you don't expect that we're all going to just fall in line with your point of view! The information is good, but opinions are like noses. Everyone's got one, and they're all a bit different. Trying to change the look of someone else's nose without their consent usually ends badly for one or the other involved.
ExposeChosunNinja 4 months ago
@TSOAS2008 Right now I like the look of my nose. If at some point I decide that it is ugly, I will change it! That however will have to be my decision.
ExposeChosunNinja 4 months ago
@ExposeChosunNinja hahaha fair enough, still when you come over to the dark side, everything is clearer and works in history! But until then, enjoy the nose! (whens your next vid?)
TSOAS2008 4 months ago
@TSOAS2008 When I get time. I have a few topics in mind, but life keeps getting in the way. Greg's BS never leaves me at a loss for topics though.
ExposeChosunNinja 4 months ago
@TSOAS2008 Have you seen this guy? /user/RembukanShinobi
ExposeChosunNinja 4 months ago
@BrotherBones1111 You are more than welcome mate, ignore me and ste, we live this stuff so it seems like we bully, but we do not, we just get the same questions everyday. No one knows when ninjutsu started, first appears in history in the 1300's. Shugendo was in teh same place, but so were samurai, there is a connection but a samurai would also do shugendo, however me and ste have found some proper ninja magic, so you are not too far away! Have you got the PDF's from website?
TSOAS2008 4 months ago
@TSOAS2008 That's alreet chief, I can understand the strain of so many Ninja fantasists pecking your head. ...Yeah I've got some of your PDFs from a while back, can't remember the specific 'Ninja Magic' you speak of. Can you point me in the right direction - I'm very interested in this area. Cheers Mate!
BrotherBones1111 4 months ago
thanks H.N.Research team.
basscommunity 4 months ago
Although I've never quite believed any of the martial art I practice was really historically accurate 'Ninjutsu'. And conversely always trusted your research. I can't shake off the feeling that there is some truth that ninja their own fighting art. Surely in a feudal society, with a social class of warriors, the Shinobi would have a martial art which reflected their character and mindset - ie: very refined and a bit sly. I'm not saying Takamatsu's art was it - but surely saying Ninjutsu
BrotherBones1111 4 months ago
@BrotherBones1111 there is no ninja class in the society, they were from many areas. So sorry that does not work. They were retained samurai mostly.
TSOAS2008 4 months ago 2
@TSOAS2008 Sorry bud, read the next bit to finish my point!
BrotherBones1111 4 months ago
@BrotherBones1111 Also, in the majority of records, memoirs, and manuals we have read, when it comes down to actual physical combat, it usually says something like "before he can announce your presence, run into him and slam him into the wall and then stab him in the gut numerous times until he is clearly dead.." Nothing esoteric or poetic-- just cold hard murder. That is the reality. It does not take any type of "style" to ram a piece of metal into someone until they die.
SweetgrassScout 4 months ago in playlist More videos from TSOAS2008
(the way these shinobi went about their trade ) wouldn't have included how to deal with their enemies in a way which was idiosyncratic of their practical and spiritually stoic way of life. Ok not being there to have to fight is good - but surely the famous martial arts schools in the Iga/ Koga area would have been teaching the same arts used by shinobi - and I don't just mean foot soldiers. It only makes sense some shinobi would have developed it into something fit for professional purpose.
BrotherBones1111 4 months ago
@BrotherBones1111 hi mate, still not sure what you are driving art? What is your connection to ninja and MA here?
TSOAS2008 4 months ago
Yes, this is a better idea. The darkness is automatically dispelled by the light. And if anything is corrupt or incorrect, then the truth will automatically weed everything wrong out, no matter the complexity of the lie. Because the truth is unbendable and unbreakable.
If we stick with putting out the truth, then both it, and the deceivers themselves, will do all of the debunking for you.
It works for Alex Jones. LOL
BlueJersey112 4 months ago
Thanks for posting this Anthony. This really made my day.
Ryutobi 4 months ago
@Ryutobi your welcome, hope it makes your day bright!
TSOAS2008 4 months ago
@TSOAS2008 If we can come together in Ninpo as one family, like Ichigun Ichinen in the old days, hopefuly we can save the Ninja Way from vanishing forever into the mists of history.
Ryutobi 4 months ago
7:38
Unfortunately, I think that this "is" about one person being better than the other person to "them."
"They" are probably willing to put politics aside if you admit that your research is wrong and "their" school teaches the "real" Ninjutsu.
"They" realize that doing actual research and finding accurate accounts of ninja history will expose them as frauds who were making things up.
I think that this is what "no one" is saying.
WayTooSerious360 4 months ago
@WayTooSerious360 Many of "them" are also doing research....
kumogakuredojo 4 months ago
@kumogakuredojo What's the issue?
I may not understand.
Why wouldn't a researcher share his information, and the sources of his information, if the research of another person has uncovered information that may challenge or support his information? Wouldn't he want to prove his authenticity?
WayTooSerious360 4 months ago
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WayTooSerious360 4 months ago
Little confused Anthony/Steve.Anthony you want to work with the blatant frauds of the world.And steven at 5:49 is totally against the fake's.Been following you guys since you first came onto youtube.And i kind of understand were you want go with this.But all i see you guys doing is giving more TTPs(training,tactics,Procedures).To the fake's.Witch they then in turn claim as there own.To further there Lieing/BS.It is already happening.Little worried about how this will effect the community.
ToLightToFight 4 months ago
@ToLightToFight Hi mate, thanks for sticking with us. I know what you mean, i think what we mean is those who try to at least follow what could be real or put one foot in each camp and those who are somewhat insane and just do weird things. So no direct conflict in what we say. But i do agree as well, the fakes are taking our stuff and twisting it. So if we know where Takamatsu "stole" his ideas from, we can cut off only false leads. But we are worried about that too! :)
TSOAS2008 4 months ago
It does not matter if some people do not want to work/help you, please keep up your reaserch, bringing the truth out.
MrJ2091957 4 months ago
graet stuff mr commins thunb up
blackswordshinobi 4 months ago
verry good Antony and Steven, verrry goood!
Gremlinshag 4 months ago
@Gremlinshag Cheers mate.
TSOAS2008 4 months ago
Good stuff
TrueKhorne25 4 months ago