What about how to vote! What would be the best option in finding out & obtaining monkey see monkey do approach for voting Conroy out and putting proper suits in place who oppose this! I have many people saying how do I vote, who should I vote for regarding this being stopped. Many just want a template approach, sort of like the ones they try to hand U outside the voting ballot by different parties! If I can formulate one I can make a jpeg version so people can print & take with them when voting.
So we have to ask permission to be opted out of the clean feed??!?!?!?! that is fucking bullshit! fuck this censorship!! take away our civil liberties!
Internet Filtering is much like DRM... Only worse. Like DRM the targeted individuals find ways around it and the honest customers end up suffering everytime the bar is raised. For this pattern to occur with Internet Filtering would ultimately kill internet here in Australia in order to stay on top of those who find ways around.
this wont happen, i wouldn't even worry about it they did serveral speed tests with this and it slowed the speed down allot by about 80%
broadband speeds are bad enough in Australia, we don't need a filter to make it worse, allot of people are still with dile up, and ADSL1 services (1500/256) are widespread
ADSL2 is only in major citys, but is rolling out to allot of rural areas, but still a filter would just be terrible, and wouldn't even work anyway people will just get around it
The only way any filtering will ever happen is if it is enforced by legislation but this will not even make it to the Senate because most Australians (nearly 80%) do not want it most political parties are against it and the industry for the most part thinks it is stupid.
All the sickos will still get their child porn through p2p networks and ftp servers which these filters will not block so why piss people off by implementing such a thing?
I will never vote for the Labor party again, either at federal or state or local level because of the thought of this filter ever being thought of in the first place.
FUCK it if youtube starts to censor SHIT you no and i FUCKing no a lot of FUCKing people will delete there FUCKing profile and youtube's ASS will go from the top to the FUCKing botton are BITCH of a government is SHIT i say FUCK all the censorship and the FUCKing world will be a better place
FUCK it if youtube starts to censor SHIT you no and i FUCKing no a lot of FUCKing people will delete there FUCKing profile and youtube's ASS will go from the top to the FUCKing botton are BITCH of a government is SHIT i say FUCK all the censorship and the FUCKing world will be a better place
free society is based on unfiltered access to information.....what kind of slave fights to have this right taken from them? anyone that supports internet or any other censorship is a good example of what the corporate media wants to turn us into...mindless obedient passive cattle........
I laugh at all the labout fags who hated on Howard all these years. Learn your lesson under a labour govt, similar to worse right wing policies to liberal as they spend all your tax money.
I'd still rather spend three years with filters (before the Libs get in riding on a campaign of removing them) and get rid of Howard than have had three more years of Howard and possibly Costello, not known Internet filtering and had a ruined Foreign Policy, an Industrial Relations Wasteland as employees lose their rights, continued high stress Aboriginal-Settler relationships as Howard's refusal to apologise continued to grate with the first Australians, and no education as Uni spots are lost.
Government is nothing but a gang of thugs with a monopoly on force.If you dont do as they say they they come after you with guns and cages.Democracy is just a sham so the sheeple think they have a choice when in reality we are stuck in the matrix.Wake up for God's sake and take back your individuality.
What hypocrisy! We have a go at China for filtering the internet when the Olympics are on and then our government wants to do the same thing here! Our service is already second rate let's not make it worse. I'll be voting for the people who don't support this in the next election and I won't be the only one.
Check out "Eustace Millar in Canada pt10" the first few minutes ?? HMMMMMM . This is all about knowledge people , elite's and big money dont want you finding out what they have been doing to your buts and your parents and their parents buts. The truth is on the internet now, you just have to filter out the shit. The elites have no morals or conscience but suffer the one emotion they have been using against we the people and that is FEAR.
man we have stuip goverments in this coutry ok there one party that takes away your freedom of speech and makes your coutry into a Communist coutry.. and there another party that fuck up the working class man u cant win........
I've been using the internet for basically the last 10 years, probably ever day or every second day for the last 5, and I have not once EVER seen child porn. This isnt about child porn. Noone wants to save child porn. People want to save their ability to choose what other things they view, which the government could at any time suddenly deem 'unwanted'
Spoken like a true sheep. Brainwashed by fearmongering politicians. Here's a fun quote for you: "The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation." -Adolf Hitler
And: "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." -Ben Franklin
You don't sunderstand. The filter won't work to stop any illegal activity. If you want to point at "stealing music", it is done so via peer-to-peer traffic which accounts for around 60% of the total Internet traffic. These filters do not touch P2P, so the "stealing of music" will continue regardless. What IS unAustralian is censorship. No Australian wants to be told by their government what they can and can't see, hear, or say. Don't sell your freedom for a false sense of security.
its only a matter of time before the technology will catch up to the bad guys. look at what happened to napster and kazaa.
if you want to allow this kind of filth into your home then i suggest you get out of my country. i fought to protect the freedom that you want to discrace with your sick fetishes and criminal behaviors.
if hippys like you ran this country you wouldnt even have internet youd still be living in a cave.
It's not about "wanting to allow this kind of filth in to my home", I'm perfectly capable of protecting my family and children online and certainly don't need government to control our lives. If you fought to protect the freedom of this country, then you should also fight to protect the freedom of Australians online which is currently under threat by technologically ignorant bureaucrats that are being heavily lobbied by the conservative right-wing control freaks the "Family First" party.
you really are a clown mate. its about stopping pedo files and terrorists getting access to their smut.
how dare you try and tell people that you are protecting freedom when all you want to do is silence the people who want to speak up for all the good that is being done by this current government.
its the left wing hippies like you that allowed this country to get in such a state in the first place with these kind of nut jobs using our technology. you make me sick.
Spoken like a true sheep. Brainwashed by fearmongering politicians. Here's a fun quote for you: "The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation." -Adolf Hitler
And: "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." -Ben Franklin
"It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press.
It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech.
It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate.
It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial.
It is the soldier, who salutes the flag...who serves under the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag...who allows the protestor to burn the flag.
you dont have the right to tell other people what their children should be exposed to. if you are supporting this kind of stuff you must be a pedo yourself.
also nice double posting i guess that is your computer rage coming out mate. you might want to think about what you are saying it might be one of your family targetted by this sick freaks one day and youll be crying to people like me to fix it.
You're right, it's not my right to tell other people what their children should be exposed to. Nor is it the governments right to decide what is good for everyone to see, hear and say. That's called fascism.
I support freedom. I support your freedom to express your opinion whether or not I agree with it.
The point is these filters WILL NOT STOP the nasty people out there. The money would be much better spent putting up a $1 million reward for information leading to the capture of these people.
look mate i know its hard for you to understand that there are already plenty of filters in place for these reasons that dont affect you one iyota so let me give you some examples
surveilance cameras these are in place everywhere you go fact is they stop criminals
phones are tapped by the govt already your mobile and home phones fact is this stops criminals
im not sure what has to happen for you to realise this is a good thing or maybe its just because its people like you doing it..
Look mate I know it's hard for you to understand all this technical Internet stuff, but the governments own trials of these filters proved that they do not work. They do not restrict kids from accessing illegal or inappropriate material and they do not stop the malicious people out there from continuing to do what they want. Yet the government is still pushing it ahead KNOWING it is flawed. Which leads many people to wonder why exactly they're going to do with it. It's a waste of time and money.
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so you argue that its a waste of money because it doesnt work but then you argue that its a violation of your free speech how can it take away my free speech if it doesnt work you might want to work on your logic mate
i dont need to understand the electronics to know that i dont need child porn handed out whenever i go on the internet
just think of how many september 11s theres been since our terror laws were brought in and that will show you how this type of thing works mate
I'm arguing that it's a waste of time/money AND that it could potentially be a violation of free speech (even if Australians have no specific granted right). Once it's switched on, whatever the government wants to add to the blacklist, whether it be terrorist sites or support info for military veterans, then that's it.
Dude, what sort of sites are you going to where child porn is handed out every time you go on the net! That's pretty dodgy!
Count bodies like sheep to the rhythm of the war drum.
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mate you seem to be the one most concerned about your stuff getting blocked not me
i dont mind whatever of my stuff gets filtered thats because i'm not a pedo or a terrorist
i suppose putting terrorism books in the library or handing out drug and bomb manuals to schoolkids is also something you want, wouldnt want our freedoms restricted hey mate
The reason people are concerned is because the filter will not work. What it WILL do is slow down the internet to a crawl for Australians, it will make the cost of internet services go up, sites WILL be blocked by false positives, sites WILL slip through by false negatives
This filter treats us all as either children or criminals as you are doing when you accuse anyone speaking against of being a pedophile
You can keep children safe on the net by SUPERVISING them not by punishing all Australians
You dumb motherfucker. Enjoy your perfectly legit content as I will. The filter wont affect you...except for the stuff it blocked incorrectly you can no longer access...Oh and except for the now severely slowed speed you get it at, oh and lets not forget your LEGAL porn will be blocked. Too bad, the form asks if you are male or female - aka your SEX. Too bad site blocked, no internet banking for you.
Oh an infected ad with spyware - time to be investigated for looking up illegal material.
Lets not forget, this ENTIRE thing is done by making a blocklist. What happens when the blocklist gets leaked by a kiddy fiddler on the monitoring team?
Instead of looking for child porn the pedo have a long list of EXACTLY where to go and as the GOVERNMENTS OWN TESTS HAVE SHOWN the filter is ineffective so free kiddies for pedos.
Wont happen? Who's watching the watchers? What makes those people any less likely to be pedo's than anyone else? Especially as they control the access to it all.
Included in this will be a lot of sex education material, which includes education on safe sex and reproductive systems and problems.
Also included is bulimia and anorexia information, information on teen suicide, lots of medical information and sites, anything on euthanasia.
But hey, thats OK, its illegal to do so why should anyone know anything about any of it. Its not as if people ever suffer from anything and need help...oh wait, they do.
You know why they turn to the net for help? Irresponsible parents such as yourself who think the internet is a babysitting tool and who refuse to watch their kids or talk to their kids about anything mature and think if they pretend it doesnt happen the problem will go away.
The solution is making parents grow the fuck up and take some motherfucking responsibility for their brat asshole children.
I like it. Sacrificing your own life for your country is incredibly courageous. A country that has amazingly good people and amazingly bad people. But for good or ill you believe that your sacrifice is worth it. A majority of people are genuinely good people who don't do anything illegal or inappropriate in their whole lives, yet there are nasty people out there who do. Would you like our society to be run like communist China controlling everything you see, hear and say? Same difference here.
It's exactly this ignorant and uninformed opinion that will turn this great country that prides itself on its freedom in to communist China that controls what you see and hear and what you're allowed to say.
Paedophiles and terrorists will have access regardless as this filter has been proven by the governments own tests to be ineffective and easily bypassed. Worse, it will further endanger children as uneducated parents will become complacent thinking the filter will do their job for them.
You don't sunderstand. The filter won't work to stop any illegal activity. If you want to point at "stealing music", it is done so via peer-to-peer traffic which accounts for around 60% of the total Internet traffic. These filters do not touch P2P, so the "stealing of music" will continue regardless. What IS unAustralian is censorship. No Australian wants to be told by their government what they can and can't see, hear, or say. Don't sell your freedom for a false sense of security.
isn't sky news owned by rupert murdock, who owns fox news...this is all about controlling citizens and making us unable to communicate about government tyranny. Start re-reading your Constitution and read the Federalist Papers, too. We citizens need to get educated to fight this fascist movement. If the govt cared about our children, they wouldn't have these mand. vaccines, failing schools, etc.
Just so everyone knows, the censorship is getting ridiculous here in America. Today I was denied the ability to see a Canadian documentary about Bushes catastrophic 8 years. Earlier a video about vaccines was also censored. Just what does our government have any business censoring this information for? Is freedom of the press dead? Do we not have the right to be an informed electorate? Apparently not.
Here we go again, the government is treating adults like children, the government can stick there filter where the sun don't shine, they cannot now or ever tell me what I can and cannot view on the internet...
Lawl they looked up preteen nudity...
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That´s WHY Internet censorship!
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What about how to vote! What would be the best option in finding out & obtaining monkey see monkey do approach for voting Conroy out and putting proper suits in place who oppose this! I have many people saying how do I vote, who should I vote for regarding this being stopped. Many just want a template approach, sort of like the ones they try to hand U outside the voting ballot by different parties! If I can formulate one I can make a jpeg version so people can print & take with them when voting.
TheUltraNinja 1 year ago
double audio = sneaky + bad. I don't think it was accidental. subliminal messages perhaps, well not very subliminal at all but a bit concerning.
reinaldihno 1 year ago
Like gun laws. The only two groups that are most likely to shoot me dead are the ones still carrying guns. Criminals and Cops!!
iHIMselfish 1 year ago
So many died in the world wars, fighting for freedom. How did the nazi's win????
iHIMselfish 1 year ago 3
So we have to ask permission to be opted out of the clean feed??!?!?!?! that is fucking bullshit! fuck this censorship!! take away our civil liberties!
A7XDudeDrums 2 years ago
Did anyone else get crazy double audio at some points in this video?
sharkman9k 2 years ago
Yes CREEPY!!!!1
DouglasASean 2 years ago
@sharkman9k yes I did aswell.
iscay666 1 year ago
STUFF YOU AND YOUR FUCKING CENSORSHIP!
NOBODY ELSE WANTS IT SO WHY THE FUCK DO YOU BALD SUIT WEARING ASSHOLES WANT IT!?! I'LL BET YOU BARELY EVEN USE THE FUCKING INTERNET!!!
And for what? Protecting the POOR little children?
PARENTS, DO YOUR FUCKING JOB!
LigerZeroPanzar 2 years ago 2
Internet Filtering is much like DRM... Only worse. Like DRM the targeted individuals find ways around it and the honest customers end up suffering everytime the bar is raised. For this pattern to occur with Internet Filtering would ultimately kill internet here in Australia in order to stay on top of those who find ways around.
QuirkyWolf 2 years ago
Censorship? More like Censorshit! Amirite?
wesleyfilms 2 years ago
this wont happen, i wouldn't even worry about it they did serveral speed tests with this and it slowed the speed down allot by about 80%
broadband speeds are bad enough in Australia, we don't need a filter to make it worse, allot of people are still with dile up, and ADSL1 services (1500/256) are widespread
ADSL2 is only in major citys, but is rolling out to allot of rural areas, but still a filter would just be terrible, and wouldn't even work anyway people will just get around it
willage2 2 years ago
Wake up, ITS HAPPENING. You being complacent, doesn't help.
EoN604 1 year ago
The only way any filtering will ever happen is if it is enforced by legislation but this will not even make it to the Senate because most Australians (nearly 80%) do not want it most political parties are against it and the industry for the most part thinks it is stupid.
steelgear 2 years ago
but at least half of australians have not even heard of the plans...
caaliin 2 years ago
muhahahahah yh like if that would world XD lmao
bokocrew 2 years ago
All the sickos will still get their child porn through p2p networks and ftp servers which these filters will not block so why piss people off by implementing such a thing?
Timbzy 2 years ago
I will never vote for the Labor party again, either at federal or state or local level because of the thought of this filter ever being thought of in the first place.
bald11 2 years ago
well this settles it im voting liberal for the remainder of my life
bushie09 3 years ago
you and me both, never ever will i vote labour again in my life because of this.
Madzombie51 3 years ago
did you both realise that the liberals tried to bring this in aswell? conroy is just getting it further towards the senate
mozaks80 2 years ago
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FUCK it if youtube starts to censor SHIT you no and i FUCKing no a lot of FUCKing people will delete there FUCKing profile and youtube's ASS will go from the top to the FUCKing botton are BITCH of a government is SHIT i say FUCK all the censorship and the FUCKing world will be a better place
kingsam978 3 years ago
fuck fucking youtube fucking pigs fuck censor fucking ship "fuck-a-doodle-doo fuck the internet
DemonicGemini 3 years ago
FUCK it if youtube starts to censor SHIT you no and i FUCKing no a lot of FUCKing people will delete there FUCKing profile and youtube's ASS will go from the top to the FUCKing botton are BITCH of a government is SHIT i say FUCK all the censorship and the FUCKing world will be a better place
kingsam978 3 years ago 5
*actual comment on the video itself*
If you're going to use a clip like at 3:54, 3:17, etc. you could at least mute the sound so you can hear what's being said.
Peewee22322 3 years ago 3
free society is based on unfiltered access to information.....what kind of slave fights to have this right taken from them? anyone that supports internet or any other censorship is a good example of what the corporate media wants to turn us into...mindless obedient passive cattle........
elcruels 3 years ago 3
Goodbye free speech it was fun while it lasted.
kingsman565 3 years ago
I laugh at all the labout fags who hated on Howard all these years. Learn your lesson under a labour govt, similar to worse right wing policies to liberal as they spend all your tax money.
Moarphine 3 years ago
I'd still rather spend three years with filters (before the Libs get in riding on a campaign of removing them) and get rid of Howard than have had three more years of Howard and possibly Costello, not known Internet filtering and had a ruined Foreign Policy, an Industrial Relations Wasteland as employees lose their rights, continued high stress Aboriginal-Settler relationships as Howard's refusal to apologise continued to grate with the first Australians, and no education as Uni spots are lost.
AsanineAssassin 3 years ago
Government is nothing but a gang of thugs with a monopoly on force.If you dont do as they say they they come after you with guns and cages.Democracy is just a sham so the sheeple think they have a choice when in reality we are stuck in the matrix.Wake up for God's sake and take back your individuality.
catatonicanimal 3 years ago
Labour Government*
scherwitzel 3 years ago
Kevin Rudd? Fuck you cunt
spanishaustralian 3 years ago
What hypocrisy! We have a go at China for filtering the internet when the Olympics are on and then our government wants to do the same thing here! Our service is already second rate let's not make it worse. I'll be voting for the people who don't support this in the next election and I won't be the only one.
trickykate 3 years ago
Censorship is bullshit.
killerrodan 3 years ago 3
Because people who watch CP google their material of choice >_>
The filter will be utterly useless.
spectre257 3 years ago
Check out "Eustace Millar in Canada pt10" the first few minutes ?? HMMMMMM . This is all about knowledge people , elite's and big money dont want you finding out what they have been doing to your buts and your parents and their parents buts. The truth is on the internet now, you just have to filter out the shit. The elites have no morals or conscience but suffer the one emotion they have been using against we the people and that is FEAR.
stoptheshearing 3 years ago 2
man we have stuip goverments in this coutry ok there one party that takes away your freedom of speech and makes your coutry into a Communist coutry.. and there another party that fuck up the working class man u cant win........
DeathnoteAmvMaster3 3 years ago
Rudd's such a snake. He said he was going to IMPROVE internet speeds, not severely gimp/limit it.. Wtf. Enjoy your single term, prick.
Krueinator 3 years ago
This filter is an utter disgrace. Rudd, you are a piece of shit. Enjoy your one term in government.
mattus52 3 years ago 2
I've been using the internet for basically the last 10 years, probably ever day or every second day for the last 5, and I have not once EVER seen child porn. This isnt about child porn. Noone wants to save child porn. People want to save their ability to choose what other things they view, which the government could at any time suddenly deem 'unwanted'
tritty429 3 years ago
Spoken like a true sheep. Brainwashed by fearmongering politicians. Here's a fun quote for you: "The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation." -Adolf Hitler
And: "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." -Ben Franklin
casgeroth 3 years ago
Why don't you eat your own head?
dicknipplez 3 years ago
You don't sunderstand. The filter won't work to stop any illegal activity. If you want to point at "stealing music", it is done so via peer-to-peer traffic which accounts for around 60% of the total Internet traffic. These filters do not touch P2P, so the "stealing of music" will continue regardless. What IS unAustralian is censorship. No Australian wants to be told by their government what they can and can't see, hear, or say. Don't sell your freedom for a false sense of security.
casgeroth 3 years ago
its only a matter of time before the technology will catch up to the bad guys. look at what happened to napster and kazaa.
if you want to allow this kind of filth into your home then i suggest you get out of my country. i fought to protect the freedom that you want to discrace with your sick fetishes and criminal behaviors.
if hippys like you ran this country you wouldnt even have internet youd still be living in a cave.
slapper999999 3 years ago
It's not about "wanting to allow this kind of filth in to my home", I'm perfectly capable of protecting my family and children online and certainly don't need government to control our lives. If you fought to protect the freedom of this country, then you should also fight to protect the freedom of Australians online which is currently under threat by technologically ignorant bureaucrats that are being heavily lobbied by the conservative right-wing control freaks the "Family First" party.
casgeroth 3 years ago
you really are a clown mate. its about stopping pedo files and terrorists getting access to their smut.
how dare you try and tell people that you are protecting freedom when all you want to do is silence the people who want to speak up for all the good that is being done by this current government.
its the left wing hippies like you that allowed this country to get in such a state in the first place with these kind of nut jobs using our technology. you make me sick.
slapper999999 3 years ago
Spoken like a true sheep. Brainwashed by fearmongering politicians. Here's a fun quote for you: "The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation." -Adolf Hitler
And: "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." -Ben Franklin
casgeroth 3 years ago 3
heres one from my book mate
"It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press.
It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech.
It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate.
It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial.
It is the soldier, who salutes the flag...who serves under the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag...who allows the protestor to burn the flag.
slapper999999 3 years ago
you dont have the right to tell other people what their children should be exposed to. if you are supporting this kind of stuff you must be a pedo yourself.
also nice double posting i guess that is your computer rage coming out mate. you might want to think about what you are saying it might be one of your family targetted by this sick freaks one day and youll be crying to people like me to fix it.
slapper999999 3 years ago
You're right, it's not my right to tell other people what their children should be exposed to. Nor is it the governments right to decide what is good for everyone to see, hear and say. That's called fascism.
I support freedom. I support your freedom to express your opinion whether or not I agree with it.
The point is these filters WILL NOT STOP the nasty people out there. The money would be much better spent putting up a $1 million reward for information leading to the capture of these people.
casgeroth 3 years ago 11
look mate i know its hard for you to understand that there are already plenty of filters in place for these reasons that dont affect you one iyota so let me give you some examples
surveilance cameras these are in place everywhere you go fact is they stop criminals
phones are tapped by the govt already your mobile and home phones fact is this stops criminals
im not sure what has to happen for you to realise this is a good thing or maybe its just because its people like you doing it..
slapper999999 3 years ago
Look mate I know it's hard for you to understand all this technical Internet stuff, but the governments own trials of these filters proved that they do not work. They do not restrict kids from accessing illegal or inappropriate material and they do not stop the malicious people out there from continuing to do what they want. Yet the government is still pushing it ahead KNOWING it is flawed. Which leads many people to wonder why exactly they're going to do with it. It's a waste of time and money.
casgeroth 3 years ago 3
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so you argue that its a waste of money because it doesnt work but then you argue that its a violation of your free speech how can it take away my free speech if it doesnt work you might want to work on your logic mate
i dont need to understand the electronics to know that i dont need child porn handed out whenever i go on the internet
just think of how many september 11s theres been since our terror laws were brought in and that will show you how this type of thing works mate
slapper999999 3 years ago
I'm arguing that it's a waste of time/money AND that it could potentially be a violation of free speech (even if Australians have no specific granted right). Once it's switched on, whatever the government wants to add to the blacklist, whether it be terrorist sites or support info for military veterans, then that's it.
Dude, what sort of sites are you going to where child porn is handed out every time you go on the net! That's pretty dodgy!
Count bodies like sheep to the rhythm of the war drum.
casgeroth 3 years ago 5
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mate you seem to be the one most concerned about your stuff getting blocked not me
i dont mind whatever of my stuff gets filtered thats because i'm not a pedo or a terrorist
i suppose putting terrorism books in the library or handing out drug and bomb manuals to schoolkids is also something you want, wouldnt want our freedoms restricted hey mate
slapper999999 3 years ago
You really don't get it, do you?
bluemukaki 3 years ago
The reason people are concerned is because the filter will not work. What it WILL do is slow down the internet to a crawl for Australians, it will make the cost of internet services go up, sites WILL be blocked by false positives, sites WILL slip through by false negatives
This filter treats us all as either children or criminals as you are doing when you accuse anyone speaking against of being a pedophile
You can keep children safe on the net by SUPERVISING them not by punishing all Australians
ReiSilver 3 years ago 2
You dumb motherfucker. Enjoy your perfectly legit content as I will. The filter wont affect you...except for the stuff it blocked incorrectly you can no longer access...Oh and except for the now severely slowed speed you get it at, oh and lets not forget your LEGAL porn will be blocked. Too bad, the form asks if you are male or female - aka your SEX. Too bad site blocked, no internet banking for you.
Oh an infected ad with spyware - time to be investigated for looking up illegal material.
Wrathlon 3 years ago 2
and whatever it is that conroy says is so called "unwanted content" (as he said in question time on the 11th)
alphamone 3 years ago
Lets not forget, this ENTIRE thing is done by making a blocklist. What happens when the blocklist gets leaked by a kiddy fiddler on the monitoring team?
Instead of looking for child porn the pedo have a long list of EXACTLY where to go and as the GOVERNMENTS OWN TESTS HAVE SHOWN the filter is ineffective so free kiddies for pedos.
Wont happen? Who's watching the watchers? What makes those people any less likely to be pedo's than anyone else? Especially as they control the access to it all.
Wrathlon 3 years ago
And one more thing:
Included in this will be a lot of sex education material, which includes education on safe sex and reproductive systems and problems.
Also included is bulimia and anorexia information, information on teen suicide, lots of medical information and sites, anything on euthanasia.
But hey, thats OK, its illegal to do so why should anyone know anything about any of it. Its not as if people ever suffer from anything and need help...oh wait, they do.
Wrathlon 3 years ago 3
You know why they turn to the net for help? Irresponsible parents such as yourself who think the internet is a babysitting tool and who refuse to watch their kids or talk to their kids about anything mature and think if they pretend it doesnt happen the problem will go away.
The solution is making parents grow the fuck up and take some motherfucking responsibility for their brat asshole children.
Wrathlon 3 years ago 7
I like it. Sacrificing your own life for your country is incredibly courageous. A country that has amazingly good people and amazingly bad people. But for good or ill you believe that your sacrifice is worth it. A majority of people are genuinely good people who don't do anything illegal or inappropriate in their whole lives, yet there are nasty people out there who do. Would you like our society to be run like communist China controlling everything you see, hear and say? Same difference here.
casgeroth 3 years ago
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if you have nothing to hide then why oppose the filter? unless you are a pede file or a terrorist.
slapper999999 3 years ago
It's exactly this ignorant and uninformed opinion that will turn this great country that prides itself on its freedom in to communist China that controls what you see and hear and what you're allowed to say.
Paedophiles and terrorists will have access regardless as this filter has been proven by the governments own tests to be ineffective and easily bypassed. Worse, it will further endanger children as uneducated parents will become complacent thinking the filter will do their job for them.
casgeroth 3 years ago
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Im guessing all you use the Internet for is porn, illegal and unaustralian activities like stealing music.
No wonder you dont want to be filtered.
Its people like you that make us need a filter like this to stop the prolifaration of this type of behavor.
slapper999999 3 years ago
You don't sunderstand. The filter won't work to stop any illegal activity. If you want to point at "stealing music", it is done so via peer-to-peer traffic which accounts for around 60% of the total Internet traffic. These filters do not touch P2P, so the "stealing of music" will continue regardless. What IS unAustralian is censorship. No Australian wants to be told by their government what they can and can't see, hear, or say. Don't sell your freedom for a false sense of security.
casgeroth 3 years ago 2
Ah the old, 'if you have nothing to hide' argument. Someone has no idea what they're talking about....
ReiSilver 3 years ago 2
fuck of conroy u faggot
mIRCmAN 3 years ago 9
isn't sky news owned by rupert murdock, who owns fox news...this is all about controlling citizens and making us unable to communicate about government tyranny. Start re-reading your Constitution and read the Federalist Papers, too. We citizens need to get educated to fight this fascist movement. If the govt cared about our children, they wouldn't have these mand. vaccines, failing schools, etc.
batgirl791 3 years ago 3
Just so everyone knows, the censorship is getting ridiculous here in America. Today I was denied the ability to see a Canadian documentary about Bushes catastrophic 8 years. Earlier a video about vaccines was also censored. Just what does our government have any business censoring this information for? Is freedom of the press dead? Do we not have the right to be an informed electorate? Apparently not.
777CARL777 3 years ago 4
Here we go again, the government is treating adults like children, the government can stick there filter where the sun don't shine, they cannot now or ever tell me what I can and cannot view on the internet...
bald11 3 years ago 5
Someone forgot to edit out some UK voiceovers...
michaelbeckham 3 years ago
Even if they filter out Pornography sites, people will then use pornographic material on unfiltered sites anyway.
I find it highly unlikely that the filtering will work as they want it to
Quidgo 3 years ago 2