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  • God I miss those guys, Ace shoulda punched Thayer dead in his face more than once. He shoulda hit him daily just for shits and giggles.

  • I agree with krazynite, that was end of Kiss for me too. If they should all get together again, the orginal 4, then I will pay attention to them again

  • Kiss will not continue without the principles , and there won't be new people filling the roles.Why not? Because REAL kiss fans aren't fooled by tommy whats his face and whosit on drums.Kiss is about the music, not the explosions.The younger you are the more blase you are about imposters filling ACE and PETER'S roles, but to old school original kiss fans it's an insult.I do see Gene trying to cash in someday and ok-ing some nausiating broadway play or something, you know some vegas schtick .

  • Damn I miss Ace being in Kiss...

  • did I just notice that piece of crap Tommy Thayer walking with Ace.

  • @rizzlaxl Yes, that was Fake Ace. And yes I totally agree with you he's crap. And a poser.

  • they didn't stop preforming together after this...

  • Call my crazy but i do like the new lineup to an extend, i mean i don't like tommy being a space ace, or eric being catman.. My favorite line up still is this lineup here and it is sad that this was the last time the original 4 played together. I remember being a kid hearing about some band being reunited and my best friend was obsessed with them, and it rubbed off, and this is the line up i remember. He had all the televised concerts on VHS we used to watch them. God i miss those days...

  • The end of KISS. I still listen to them and yes after the break up, but this really broke my heart to see. Gene , Paul , Ace and Peter will ALWAY'S be KISS .

  • Look how short Tommys' hair is.

  • The current members are so much better!

  • Peter's legal team: "They'll never go to Australia without you." WRONG! -The Reunion Era, '96-'00, was always a five year deal, and by 2000, "We didn't know how much more of them we could stand." Meaning Ace's chronic tardiness and Peter's moan-y-ness. P.S. They were hired by Paul & Gene TWICE (early '70's & mid-'90's) but didn't appreciate their well-paid employment either time.

  • The same beef that split the original four to begin with is what split them again during the reunion. It's got nothing to do with Eric and Tommy. Eric and Tommy are cool people from what I've seen through interviews and such. Plus, they are still big fans of Peter and Ace. Ace has even approved of Tommy's playing.

  • I think Gene and Ace need to squash the beef and get back to together in KISS. Those other 2 guys suck. Tommy and the other dude. They can't hold a candle to Ace and Peter. Gene needs to get his head outta his ass and kill the beef between him and Ace.

  • Wasn't the last time.....KISS unfortunately faked their retirement....comparable to....er THE JUDDS!! research before you post!

  • @Melissa71104 You need to do the research first. This was the last time Gene, Paul, Ace and Peter walked to the stage. The four of them have not played a show together since this night. The band that is touring now is not the original four.

  • @mbrandvold this was the last time for the orignal four

  • @mbrandvold its actually the last time they WALKED to stage. i think at the olympics at saltlake city was their last performance. or that could be ace's last performance i dont know

  • @joonajax nope, the Olympics had Eric Singer on drums. This was the last time all four original members ever played together.

  • i dont mind new KISS but the old line up is my 2nd favorite nxt 2 the one from COTN

  • The original KISS line up was the best! and i think Destroyer was the best album they made, but thats my opinion. i agree with KISS being a tribute band now, it's not the same! Sonic Boom didn't sound like a KISS album... out of my KISS collection i have an LP with 2 songs on side A: Creatures of The Night and Rockin' Roll All Night. B side has autographs scratched in from: Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley, Ace Frehley and Eric Car (about a thousand copies made and i own 1 of them)...

  • That is the end for the original line-up but that is the start for the new line up of KISS

    KISS FOREVER!!!

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  • Who was that girl? WITH ACE..... If  I ever get her name..... no.. I can't kill her that's impossible... hopefully they were just FRIENDS and not the opposite of FRIENDS I was supposed to be escorting ACE SHE just came outta nowhere and took ACE'S line... Grrr, makes me jealous.... :P i'll get over it....

  • Took my daughter to this one, her first and only concert!!! she was 13!!!

  • Doc McGee must have given them a pep talk or something, dogs and cats together as one [which is why Gene does the dog]. I don't think it worked.

  • They all did it for the money. In 1996, Kiss was playing small venues, Peter was playing tiny clubs if that, and so was Ace. Paul and Gene knew that the only way they would headline big arenas again was to put on the makeup and get Peter and Ace, it was a business decision that paid off and has paid off for them for the last 15 years. When all that gimmick and nostalgia cleared, they let them go, though I have heard that they begged Ace to stay but he was done with their egos.

  • That is strange to see Tommy Thayer (short hair) walking with Ace toward the end.... if he only knew!

  • Gene blowin' off steam, Ace is wasted, Doc "Last one...dogs and cats livin' together as one." You can feel the tension. These guys were glad to be parting ways.

  • Peter and Ace only came back for the money....saw the re-union tour and Peter was just up there going thru the motions...he didnt want to even be there....and Tommy had to re-teach Ace the songs that Ace helped create...ace couldnt remember how they went........so getting rid of them both was the only way KISS could go on

  • @BSTOFTHBST Thats false information, most of the songs ace created for KISS were played in his solo days and still are, Tommy had to reteach him GUITAR SOLOS for song he didnt write, and to be completely fair why would he need to remember them when he left the band? Its not like he was gonna play them

  • And who's the girl @ 0.10 mark opening the door and walking into what looks to be a completley dark room , with no lights..........whats that about?

  • Tommy must have been Aces guitar tech

  • if you look closly you can see tommy thayer!

  • @thefirebreathers1 Sure enough. I never would've noticed. Starting at 0.52 you can see him. Good eye................

  • 0:59 is that tommy on the right?

  • @RedTV8888

    Good spot & yes I believe you're right....

  • @RedTV8888 Yep that's Tommy

  • the guy with the camera was pretty tall man

  • The girl with Ace who has the orange ish hair is a girl named Shannon. They dated throughout the farewell tour. We work together & her hair is crazy because she was a hair model and is a hair stylist now. :)

  • It's kinda funny to see Tommy in the hallway walking beside Ace as he would become the Spaceman. The only card that KISS hasn't played is a full tour featuring songs from the Elder. When will this come to fruition?

  • Eric and Tommy are AMAZING but nothing as Peter and Ace.

  • Man, I could swear that girl ask ace if he was here by himself? Must have imagined that?

  • filmed by tommy kiss fan?

  • im surprised that they didnt have a label called kiss records like the stones did with there own label.

  • I know what Ace is thinking.."Thank god i don't have to put this silly shit back on again".

  • @MrHideyoursheep

    xcept this wasn't Ace's last show, it was Peter's....he wanted more money. Then Eric Singer came in and they finished the tour. Then on the next tour Tommoy replaced Ace and Peter came back....

    

  • THATS KISS...anything less than this is a bad joke!

  • Aren't they a bit too seasoned for Doc McGhee? How can they own everything but their own label?

  • 1:00 >:/

  • listen I helped pay for all the boys have and thats the original group kiddies...now run along to Mommy's basement...

    Gemma

  • ace!!

  • @PAXOCOLml yah I think that's Tommy

  • How about the comment at 1:10 ? "dogs and cats living together as one".

    These guys hated each other (gene, paul vs ace, peter) at this point and were only in it for the money.

    I see some comments saying it was over here. HA ! HA ! Thsi band was over in 1979.

    Hell, by 77' they were at each others throats. Ace didn't even play on the studio tacks from ALIVE II. (except Rocket Man).

  • OMG!!! Stop the video at 1:03.

    Tommy Thayer?

  • @PAXOCOml

    yeah man he´s tommy thayer indeed, because he was who taught ace the riffs to ace when he returned to kiss,,

  • Anyone notice Tommy Thayer walking with them in short hair?

  • @JCoreyball2 He went from seeing them onto the stage to walking with them onto the stage. He must have totally TRIPPED out at his first gig.

  • @JCoreyball2 i think he was ace,s trainer/coach/ tech for alot of stuff from 96 on. but i had not notided that. godd call man.

  • Saw em live in Oslo- Sonic tour.. NOT good.. shit sound, paul s voice did not work, the band looks like a shadow of them selves..I wish they did quit when they said so. I did feel bad as a KISS fan, seeing em like this.I did notice that a huge number actually left the show midway. At least, hire a fuxxxng soundman! Not only a pyro guy.

  • KISS RIP 74-79

  • @damienbaits  73-80*

  • Thayer and Singer are great too, but I want Frehley and Criss or I get upset...

    MR.BILL

  • ...and that was the end of KISS for me. Closed.

  • @krazynite Agreed. It's a half a tribute band now. Sad. They should have ended it there but greed keeps it going.

    No dignity, how pathetic....

  •  Tommy Thayer: Epic Fail

  • fuck Tommy!!!

  • Ace Frehley cool, Tommy Thayer not so cool.

  • tommy is a cool guy

  • everybody stfu about tommy !!

  • Tommy Thayer is a fucking little faggot

  • @yvgodro no you are

  • that was proby KISS,s best concert and i wish i could of been there

  • for anybody who says thats Eric Singer its not look at 0:58 its peter cross tattoo and that is tommy by the wall in his suit with short hair

  • @TheJokersWildCoC17 - yeah, what's with Tommy Thayer having short hair - reminds me of a Clark Kent type guy.

  • @evilunixuser1 lmao i know, he was there road manager and he produced there dvds and this was before he grew his hair out for KISS or even joined the band so he just had normal hair lol

  • I'm glad they"re friends, after all they say a student will surpass his teacher. Ace will always be one of the best. I have their sonic boom cd/dvd pkg .Tommy definately studied Ace's style, and sounds great. Excellent classic sound, with a modern flair.

  • that guy next the wall at 1:01 is Tommy...by watching this you can tell Ace and Tommy are friends

  • @TheSpaceman77 - yeah, true Tommy & Ace are friends. Its Peter holding the grudge against Eric.

  • Are you blind? That is Eric Singer

  • @Smockeyable

    No it isnt. You can tell by the tattoo. Eric Singer doesnt have that tattoo. Not the personality either.

  • That's Ace, Tommy's got jet black hair, plus you can just look at Ace and tell he's not too enthused about going on stage.

  • @TheZepmeister Tommy's standing against the wall in the suit. Hes got short hair here.

  • Hey fro 0:00 to 2:15 ist that the greatest rock band ever?

  • Compared to ACE, Tommy is just 2nd rate, sorry...

  • wtf gene was making dog noises at the start

  • ajajajj tomy aparece los saluda! ajajaj quien diria que desp robaria imitando al gran Ace!!!

  • Whos the hot girl with Ace@ 0:49? what a babe!

  • @delacerdaa Maybe his girlfriend....

  • what the hell is doc mcghee doing with them

  • @davidallenroth he managed them. why does it surprise you?

  • Why was Ace pushed out from KISS?

    Check out my KISS videos live from Chicago 9/3/2010

  • @delacerdaa

    ace wasn't pushed out he left

  • Tommy Thayer licking Ace's balls all the time...fucking imposter.

    well....he'll never have Ace's talent or personality. He had to wear his make up!!! haha that's ridiculous PLUS the OTHER fake guy, Singer....give me a fucking break.

    No Ace? No Peter? then guess what.............NO KISS, today is a fucking cover band.

  • Tommy Thayer is so not-rock.

  • @GonzoAddams

    Have you see them live lately, Tommy fuckin rocks that guitar!

    check out my KISS videos live from chicago 9/3/2010

  • @delacerdaa

    I know plenty of guys in tribute bands that are great musicians. Big deal. It's not the real thing.

  • "Dogs and cats living together as one" sounds like they were getting sick of eachother, again

  • @billhaley1868 they was 2

  • @heavymetal4ever90 I believe it. It's too bad the fans had to pay for it.

  • Hihihihihi... you can see Tommy Thayer without makeup there xDDD

    1:00

  • @TheSoxSorrow Haha...his hair is so short tho. it's weird. he looks like someone that shouldnt be at a KISS concert.

  • to anyone who wants to argue wit me,here is a question. If gene and paul are so much better without ace and peter, why do they still use their makeup to put on their puppets? my answer is because if the people saw two different characters they would say who the fuck is that. kiss would soon be called a cover band

  • Paul and Gene control KISS because (1) They started KISS (2) They didn't fuck up their career by numbing themselves with drugs, alcohol (3) They cared about performing a show and keeping the band active, rather than using the band to get themselves exposure.

    Ultimately, Peter and Ace weren't treated as equals because their mistakes got them fired, and were continued to be treated unequal during the reunion, psycho circus, and farewell tours because those same problems were left unfixed.

  • I mean if tommy will never leave KISS at least he could off change his looks in KISS, like Eric Carr or vinnie vinncent did and not be like someone he WILL NEVER WILL BE EVER!!!! Probaly one of the main reasons they hired tommy the gayer thayer is that gene was really desperate for money like he always is and the first thing that came to his mind was the gay ass tommy the gayer thayer! And that is a FACT!!!!!!! Im a huge KISS fan of the 70's and wouldn't see KISS anytime

  • hahahaha look at tommy the gayer thayer at 1:03 with his gay little fag short hair. I dont know why he was the replacement, i honestly don't care for him period, everythime i see this fag aptempting to be like the KING Ace Frehley, i puke my guts out. nobody and i mean nobody can be Ace, i wish they just fire this sum bitch and bring back Ace, but it will never happen. Ace hates kiss right now and has no regrets going back!

  • @BrandonDime true man i tommy thinks he is ace. ace wrote the song shock me because of him once getting electrocuted. tommy wrote a song called when lightning strikes.WTF

  • This is the real KISS walking to the stage!

  • lol tommy thayer with short hair

  • Kiss is a business, when the time comes for Gene and Paul to retire, 2 more Guys will be brought in to replace them.

    Gene has a great business brain.

    Kiss will go on and on.

    Kiss is a brand, and a band!

  • @orriblebob You got that right. All the rest of the comments arguing over whether Tommy is better/worse than Ace, haven't even considered that KISS is bigger than the members of the band. KISS is about the characters. The Demon and Starchild will eventually have different people under the costumes and makeup too.

  • look at tommy thayer smilin like a shit eatin possom!

  • @salamonetalton fuck u asshole leave tommy outta this

  • Is that Tommy Thayer at 1:00 patting ace on the back?

  • @Glittervel Yep. Tommy has been an employee of the band for a long time.

  • @summertimegirl720!!! You rock !! You know guitar gods when you see and hear them!! I like your taste in music and guitar players!! Ace rules!!!!! Kiss without ace is like a burger without the meat!! Lol... Rock on summertimegirl720!!!!

  • @Thesnag69 agreed 100%

  • Your wrong!!! Peter left briefly before ace!!!

  • Ace left first then Peter in 2003

  • Peter left first!! Eric singer came back into the picture. Then ace left... Peter and Tommy finished the reunion tour !! Then kiss didn't renew peters contract..

  • Monkeyballsinspace!!!!! You are still in bootcamp!!!!!!!! Kiss sucks without ace and Peter!! You are in a tribute band army!!! That's all they are with gene and Paul!!!! A tribute band !!! Get ace and Peter back for one more tour, then retire while you can!!!

  • kiss is the best no matter what im in the kiss army

  • Ya and gene and Paul are talentless hacks as musicians!!! They don't know how to just jam!!! Everything has to be acted out!! No spontanuity!!! They should allow Eric and Tommy to develop there own personas and make up and costumes !!! As you can tell, they still need the images of ace and Peter to tour And continue to keep moving forward!! For Christ sake , Tommy played aces solos note for note on the new kiss record Sonic Boom!!! Ace made that band what they are! Think about it!!

  • @Thesnag69 Yes!! totally agree with you!! Ace Frehley = God!!

  • Fans seem to forget one important thing about Ace and Peter. Ace and Peter walked away from the band cuz they had other supposed aspirations to do solo stuff. This was '80 for Peter, and '82 for Ace. Drugs and alcohol are what did them in. It was their choice to live that lifestyle. Ace and Peter are their own worst enemies. Gene and Paul did what they had to to do to keep Kiss going. Same thing happened again in 2001 w/Peter, and 2002 w/Ace. Love 'em but their idiots!!!

  • Gene and Paul are fucking money hungry Jew bastards!!! They are so fucking tight u couldn't get a match stick up there ass!!! They have made a laughing stick out of kiss!!! Hang up the platform boots or get ace and Peter back!!!! Think about your fans and stop thinking about your greedy, money hungry, merchandising selves!! You Fucking Jew bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ace and Peter rule!!!!

  • TOMMY ! ! ! I saw him in this lol he looks so different XD

  • Wonder who the chick was that said"it's me curly"???

  • seen thommy thayer? at 1:00 - 1:05 ... the guy on the wall (right) .

  • It was nice when Ace & Peter rejoined the band for that period of time. But I think the reunion was actually just Gene and Paul reinventing KISS again, since Carnival Of Souls didn't pan out the way they wanted. Funny how the Farewell Tour was actually 'farewell Ace & Peter'.

  • Don't be mad at Eric or Tommy be mad at gene and Paul. If you were offered to play drums or guitar in KISS but you had to wear someone elses makeup I'm certain not many people would say no to that opportunity.

  • Peter looks really short, is he really that short?

  • @RritZz1988 He could be short, but he also doesn't wear the extra inches on his shoes.

  • Tommy Thayer is walking out with them. Dressed in black and with short hair.

  • I am a completely loyal Ace follower, i have every ounce of respect for him and i am totally in love with the man (i am not gay).. i don't agree with Paul and Gene's decision about the make-up issue but at the same time, I will give Tommy a lot of respect because he is a fantastic musician and performer....this is why i really want him to have his own character because then he would have the full respect he deserves. instead of people only looking at the make-up.

  • How crazy is that to see Tommy Thayer @1:00 smiling at Ace as he walks to the stage. Now Tommy is making that walk every night in Ace's makeup!

  • Paul and Gene are selfish as well. Ace and Peter's addiction may have been drugs and alcohol, but Gene and Paul were addicted to money and power, and still are

  • I wonder what they were all thinking during this walk. Had to be difficult and mind boggling.

  • hahaha see that girl walk out at 00:10 wat did she just get up 2 wit the boys before the show

  • Gene is addicted to pussy! HA!

  • Doc McGee..what a whore.

  • 1:03 Tommy Thayer with short hair lol

  • @SpaceAce2259 Yeah he's probably wearing a Ace Frehley wig right now.

  • @Warchief01 THERE IS ANOTHER GUY WITH A ACE FREHLEY WIG

    check this out: youtube.com/user/CrazyUnitedAc­e

  • I couldve sworn I seen Doc Mghee walking down hall with Tommy Thayer He says "last time cat and dogs walk together" Mghee has managed some of the biggest rock bands ever Hes also caused some of the bigget inter-band conflicts as well What a troll

  • its a lot better being addicted to money and power than drugs and alcohol they both made the choice to do drugs and alcohol they could of sorted them self out but they didn't the line up is much better now. end off

  • i hope it's not the last time... it's a shame sonic boom did well in sales. if it didn't, gene would have to do the right thing. do the right thing, gene!!! peter&acepeter&acepeter&acepet­er&acepeter&acepeter&ace!!!

  • peter and ace signed there contracts in 96.then when the tour took of they wanted new deals.you dont sign on for 4 years then change your mind.thayer was a tour manager on the tours from 95.unplugged onwards.i still think they will do this one of gig back together to end it all..they do actually get on!

  • of course that's the imposter of Thyer. What a shame.

    Take off that master's make up asshole!

    shit!

  • at: 1:02  Is that Tommy :O ?

  • looks like him to me

  • @Eveneiedeg Yeah.

  • @Eveneiedeg YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    i think he looks cute like that, but im glad that he has long hair now

  • @Eveneiedeg yes that is he was a backstage person before he joined kiss

  • @Eveneiedeg i think it is it really looks like him

  • @Eveneiedeg yup

  • @Eveneiedeg yeah thats tommy

  • @TrueRocker100 No that's Ace. This is during the Farwell Tour. You can see peter's stupid ass tear drop on his makeup.

  • @Believe316 I know its Ace in the makeup but before Tommy was in the band he worked with Ace & tought him all his guitar parts again. Tommy's standing against the wall in the suit. Hes got short hair here.

  • @TrueRocker100 i think ACE IS STILL BETTER

  • @Atreyufolife Well yeah haha hes definately better but Tommys all we got

  • @Believe316 you can also a see a ugly greedy jew and his name is gene simmons.

  • @Eveneiedeg yes, he worked behind the scenes for them for a while before his current gig.

  • I was front row and later backstage at this show!

  • Who cares?

  • you can almost like feel the emotion watching this. ha. wow. i really wish i couldve been there...i was wayyyy to young to be going to KISS concerts then though.

  • Gene reminds me of Mr. Crab on Spongebob Squarepants

    ACE is KISS

    Thayer is an equivalent substitute, looks sminked similar to Ace

    Paul as always is the niceguy

  • was that Ace´s girlfriend?

  • @SpaceAce2259 Wendy, yeah. Lucky enough to be with him & she blew it.

  • tommy thayer and eric singer are really nothing but backup musicians for paul and gene.

  • @darkhorse226 Yeah true....but they are awesome

    Check out my KISS videos in CHICAGO on 9/3/10