lol,, my wife would fkn shit on my grave if i ever suggested polygamy... and fair enough fr fk sake you fkn freaky mthrfkrs. My girl is all i need and you fkn turdbags that think this is cool are either dudes with small dicks or chicks selling your asses out you fkn dumb self deserving tool mthrfkrs - i lol at you all (sidenote - stupid fkn americans)
First off, get your facts straight Dr. Keith, polygamists are NOT Mormons or in any way, shape or form associated with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Second, am I the only one who thinks these kids are brainwashed from birth to think that polygamy is the only way to live?
I disagree with polygamy; but I find it alarming that people object to polygamy and yet they don't object to sleeping around and having multiple sex partners outside of marriage. If it is acceptable for people to have multiple sex partners outside of marriage how is it not acceptable inside of marriage?
I was just thinking, i think its really weird that they have los of wifes but if you thin about it is it the same for all the people who cheat of their spouses except they are up from and accepting of the other people.
After it was "officially" stopped the Romney's fled the US to Mexico (illegally) to keep polygamy. Romney's dad was the 1st Mexican-American candidate for POTUS.
Romney is a Mormon bishop, a descendant of 1 of the original Joe Smith apostles and whose g-gramps illegally fled to Mexico to stay ahead of US law (he STILL had cousins in Mexico - look it up!)
One gramps who married his 12th wife got shot dead by the husband of of the last woman he had a "celestial" marriage with.
Here's a down side 90% of them live off of food stamps. In a community of 200 polygamists in 30 years you'd have no option but to screw your relatives.
Hmm...I often imagine the community that would result from the use of boundary dissolving pyschedelic drugs and an orgiastic lifestyle. Orgy and drugs are both words that are taboo to many people, but lets look at what would happen: there's no way to trace paternity. This results in the COMMUNITY caring for the children because, "hey this might be mine". I see so many fucking cunty, ignorant people walking around today. Why? Got a shit roll of the dice and terrible programming from parents
The problem I see is that people are tying it to religion at all. That is where the problem lies. It's just about personal choice. To each theri own man, But NO WAY could I share my life partner, but that is me.. If I have the need for someone else. Time to fly, but I also believe in choice and change...
@norcorneliocastrogom If I wanted poly just to have all the girls I want then I'd have hundreds of wives but I dont want that. I'd want my wife to have a choice or say becuz I want her to be emotionally and physically satisfied and factoring choice, feelings, and sex can create more trouble than what its worth when you have too many wives. So your point does not apply to me and other hard working poly dads..esp. those who like me would want only 2 wives and with my wife's choice
stupid people this is not about religion. Is simply that the guys just want to have sex with all the girls they want without any consequences and want to have them all without loosing any one and they shield themselves saying is "religion"
Polygyny was practiced for inheritance (the levirate law), desire for lots of chidren, etc. Nowadays, it can be practiced in a dishonest way as cheating or in honest ways in a marriage. I'm not a Mormon nor a Babylonian brotherhood member and I'd only want to practice polygamy if my wife wanted it w/ me. Otherwise, I'm fine with just being with her only.
Polygynous behavior is also observed in the animal world, so I suppose these animals are part of some cult, as well? People sound very stupid when they think everyone practices polygamy or marriage in general for all the same reasons. There is no one theory for polygamy just as there isn't one for monogamy. People can practice it for different reasons even as simple as just wanting to experiment. Polyandry is practiced for inheritance in India and Tibet. cont'd
@tiarnan76 If by a hippie commune you mean a everyone screwing anyone then you are wrong. Poly was practiced before Joseph Smith and by Jews considered righteos in the Bible. Polygamists at least engage in a marriage so im not sure about your comparison to hippies or your isolating of poly to Mormonism.
Joseph Smith was part of the Babylonian Brotherhood and his religion is an apostasy to the true Christian Faith...Polygamous families are the same as a hippy commune, or indeed communism ...which of course are two further systems created by the BB
These children were being asked some tough questions, almost like Dr dude wanted to get a rise out of them. Beautiful hearts they all have and well I can relate only in the sense that my parents divorced when I was 3 and remarried different spouses. The hate they get is just sinful human nature. Envy, jealousy, unhappiness in ones own life. Judge not lest you be judged.. and whats the other one remove the plank in your own eye before trying to take the speck from your neighbors..
People always say polygamy is out dated, when there are so many "indirect" poygamist walking around. These are them: "baby daddies", mistresses, "girl on the side", "side join", out of town girlfriend, trophy, etc. (I know I left some ou)t. Polygamy just basically adds rules to all of that and hold everyone accounted for.
some people are BORN with the ability to love more than 1 person at the same time. i'm not a fundamentalist mormon myself, i'm a bisexual catholic polygamist. merry christmas to all n many hugz too! :) xoxo
I wish he would stop calling them "Mormons". Not because I have a problem with poly-lifestyles, but because it perpetuates that myth that all members are practicing polygamy.
Polygamy is not outdated, but rather the WAY it was practiced is outdated just as the OLD way monogamy was practiced is outdated where women were often ARRANGED in marriages and had little to no say. Polygamy is not always built on a drive to have as many children and as many wives, but rather it's nowadays built on love (love for more than one person) and CONSENT of ALL adults involved. And I'd say the culture is changing again, esp. with gay marriage in the mix.
I'm sorry but for these nice young adults to be called Mormons is misleading to the viewers. Ive attended Mormon services for 38 years, every week, and have never seen, met, or heard of a polygamist that was still a member of the church. In fact, they don't allow it. It is a lifestyle that those youts' families chose and it looks like they turned out ok and respectable. In fact, based on their demeanor, i would not hesitate to associate with them or work side by side with them in business. But
If you can't keep a marriage or boyfriend / girlfriend relationship for long then is impossible to stay in a polygamous marriage without getting a divorce.
Polygamy isn't for everyone especially people who have their heads up their own asses.
I respect their right to live their lifestyles however they feel comfortable with, but
Here's what I don't understand: What makes a man so special that he gets more than one wife? Why not a woman and a bunch of men? Does it not cheapen the worth of the woman when she has to share her relationship with others, one woman isn't good enough?
That's true doit420. It's easy to see that many aren't truly monogamous when there's so much cheating going on from both sexes. Even those many people don't always act on it but lots of times they're still thinking and desiring it. There's a reason the porn industry is booming and why there's so many viewers even among the married crowd desiring the girls on porn videos.
@doit420sdf lol that comment made me laugh. The central principle of monogamy is the instrumental value it provides in forming a stable family unit where the man provides out of love for his women and children. This is why there is so much sexual competition between men and women in society, and why women are so rivalrous and jealous to each other.
The truth is, we are far more monogamous than polygamous and our brains are geared to form a central attachment, reinforced from birth.
Monogamy isn't necessarily stable when you have a series of cheating, divorces, and remarriage. I'd say both polygamy and monogamy can produce stable family units depending on the participants involved. Whether or not we're more monogamous than polygamous may depend on the person. I'm in a relationship and I've found plenty other women that I'm attracted to and some of them were my type after I got to know them. Most people won't admit that out of insecurity.
@PolyPride3 I don't believe you can build a stable family unit through polygamy - it is an outdated and primitive mindset built on the mammalian drive for a male to impregnate as many females as possible. Over time, we have developed more monogamous instincts because of the survival advantages of having a parental pair dedicated to specific offspring, as well as the reduced risk of inbreeding. Infidelity and divorce may be due to cultural influences and how children are raised.
I'm not sure why you believe polygamy can't lead to a stable family if all of the spouses stay together. I can see if this was a revolving door of different partners in and out but that is not the case with everyone. Some polygamists have been married to the SAME 2, 3, or more wives for years. Compare that to monogamy where that's not even a theme for many IN PRACTICE any more due to rampant cheating and broken marriages.
Hey I was walking by the creek today and guess what? John the baptist, baptised me. Yeah no shit me..... Can you believe it? Now if you didn't buy that story from me and fifteen people I don't know swearing they saw me there why on earth would you buy it from the idiot Joe?
Want to know how to greet a mormon? Watch the utube clip "Mormon Missionaries Meet their Match!" It hilliarious and exactly what you should do should they come to your home. Maybe they will quit their sick ass religion.
The Bible does not forbid polygamy. You don't need to abandon your wives in order to become a Christian. Now, that blonde girl (Katherine), I might want to marry her, but I don't promise to get sister wives. lol
i understand that it can be swell for the man - but maybe just from the outside... ...but isn't there going to be a shortage of women...??? ...i mean if one guy has 10 women, what about the 9 guys without one... ...i would be pretty pissed if i was one of the 9... ...it just must lead to a civil war in such a society... ...guys get really aggresive without sex...
Actually, if the US is suppose to be a place of religious freedom, you have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and having a job = life, funding it, and happiness = marriage and the right to it with those you choose, then NOT protecting this legally is really NOT constitutional and not in the spirit of the nation the US is suppose to be, hence restricting gays, polyagmists is against that foundation which is suppose to be UNLIKE other nations and uniquely American.
doesn't include polygamy? Yeah the mormons just left that out. What kind of a religion does that? Leaves out the parts of the stories they don't like. They said they broke no laws yet were persecuted and thrown out of two states just because the size of their group. No mention of polygamy, I could not believe this deception this hurts the real message of Jesus Christ and replaces it with this Luciferian deception. Jesus is about truth and this is clearly about lies and destructive to us al
@Dionanthon There is no proof that Joseph Smith practiced polygamy. In fact he made public statements against it. The practice started with Brigham Young after Smith's death. There is no proven case of Joseph Smith having a child with a woman other than his wife Emma Smith. The question is why they had such differing policies. Either Smith didn't want to accept this revelation, or Young made it all up for personal reasons, or God instructed them differently. I don't know the answer.
What? Come on Joe was a practicing perv. You must believe that John the baptist came back from the dead just so he could baptise Joe too? For the first time in history John the baptist came back from the dead for ole, rock in the hat deving Joe. You probably don't believe Joe put a magic rock in his hat to find gold either? I don't think he ever wrote about that nonsense either. So people ran Joe out just because he met Moroni huh? Not plural marriage? The 3, 14 year old brides all non?
@Dionanthon The only religious leader I have 100% faith about is Jesus. I agree that this polygamy stuff stinks, but maybe there are explanations, or maybe not. Joseph Smith seemed like a standup guy though, and since there's no proof, I think he's clean. If he lied about this then his church is a lie too. Of course that's what you believe. However I think many of the circumstances of the church and the book of mormon are extraordinary, so you can't write him off that easily.
@pite9 Tell me what seems stand up about this guy? He started out getting people to give him money to find gold for them with a rock in his hat guiding him. Then suddenly John the baptist, came to baptise him then he has these gold tablets he interpreted that he put back in the ground so the world could never see them. Then Moses and Jesus came to visit him. He ran as fast as he could with gold tablets in one arm from bandits to stupid in his lie to know the tablets would have been 235 lbs.
@Dionanthon The tablets were probably gold plated brass, so they weighed less than half of that. The plates states that israelites traveled to South or Central America, and they were written in some egyptian dialect, so do you really think God would want the public to see them? If the story is true, then someone who knew ancient egyptian would have been able to prove that they were real, and there's no way that someone as young as Joseph Smith and with that background would know such a language.
@pite9 The gold tablets never existed like the the towns and place he pulled out of thin air. This guys wasn't even a good liar come on pite9? I think that God would want us all to see them Jesus said what good is a lamp stand under a rock? Good point on the language? Its so cool that the rossette stone was decipered not long before Joes BS. Its like he read the latest sci fi and wrote a book of nonsense. WHAT MADE THIS GUY SO SPECIAL TO GOD? His career as a gold con artist? His huge EGO
@Dionanthon Besides, a handful of ppl claim to have seen them. If the tablets didn't exist, do you really think they would follow him and help spread his lies? You can also see that there are cultural similarities with meso/south american and egyptian culture, like the pyramids. If these israelites wrote egyptian it suggests that egypt was the cultural leader of the region, which suggests that they would be influenced by their construction as well.
@pite9 Yes I do. I think if they could have there little polygamist lifestyle they'd agree to any lie. As for construction I seen stuff on mars that looks like the pyramids and the spinx. I heard better lies from alien abuduction sources. Tell me how in the world Joe was able to interpret them with the crap education he had? You really think John the baptist came back from the dead and baptised this guy? PLEASE tell me what makes Joe so special, blood line? no. His life as a gold con man
@Dionanthon Polygamy wasn't practiced by any of the witnesses of the plates. Yes, he wouldn't have the education to translate the plates. That's the point. When Joseph Smith published the Book of Mormon, he was 24, the same age as me, and I'll say this, if someone like me fictioned something as grand and complex as the Book of Mormon it would be an extraordinary feat. This is almost more unlikely than someone finding some plates and translating them with the help of God.
@pite9 Read a good Russian author like Dostoyevsky. Crime and Punishment, The Idiot... He smokes Joe and his stolen plagiarized book. And putting your head in an old white hat, with a pet rock and sticking your head into that hat and conjuring up a book is not indicative of divinity. the OAHSPE is much longer than the BofM and written under spiritualist automatic handwriting as well but it's not divine.
If Mitt Romney wasn't running for president i wouldn't even bother here. since this man has decided to bring Mormonism to the forefront and his very presense if he became president would be a huge endorsement to his perv religion. I hope everyone steps up to plate here on Joe Smith and the lies this cult tells. So that brings me to the immorality of polygamy. I hope the closer he gets to the nomination the more negative attention comes to both these groups. You know the movie of Joe's life
Poly Pride ok lets do the math then. Thats one kid for you and one kid for a sister wife if your looking at it that way. Then if you have three thats two kids for you one for sister wife. Oh thats gonna work so well. Ok lets look at this you get 3 kids and 3 sister wives have 3 kids too. Thats nine kids. This plan of your looks as phoney as Joe Smiths tale about John the baptist coming back from the dead to baptise him.
I said I only want 2 or 3 kids total so I'm not sure why you put words in my mouth. ANd I'd also only want 2 wives the most so that would be 1 kid each wife or maybe one of them will have 2 kids. I'm not a MOrmon so I don't really care about Joseph Smith. You need to begin to realize that there are Non-Mormons and even Non-religious folk who would practice poly, and it would not be in any of the ISOLATED secretive cult/sects that the media often focuses on.
@PolyPride3 Why wouldn't he put words in your mouth and assume you're in a religious group he hates so he can disparage you as much as possible? He already believes in punishing people for crimes they didn't commit because they're in the wrong demographic and has called for the state to take direct and total control over the reproductive rights of the citizens, their right of association (cause fuck the Constitution I guess) and of the indoctrination of all children. What's can more thing hurt?
Good point. I actually believe religion is also partly to blame for the monogamy-ONLY cultural stand due to many Catholics and Protestants and the majority/dominant religion influence on culture since 1800s and even before that. I won't paint all Christians that way since some Christians aren't anti-polygamy but many are unfortunately and raise their kids and try to dominate the culture in the like manner.
You heard it folks. Every polygamist is a child molester, regardless of whether or not they molest or even have children. That's the kind of people we're dealing with: the kind of people who would punish a whole population for the crimes of individuals, most of whom are monogamists, NOT polygamists. By that logic we can argue that, because Blacks are more likely to commit crimes, all Blacks should be locked up to protect everyone else. It's morally despicable, but liberty will reign in America.
Polygamy to some may be all about sex but to others it's about wanting love and support from more than ONE person that you love and want in your relationship. I find it arrogant that someone paints every single guy with the same brush and thinks they know every single guy better than every single guy knows himself. Stick to your own head and motives unless you can actually PROVE me and my intentions wrong.
You two may not know about thing called black breeding? Where a white couple brings in a black man to breed just because it turns them on. This is perfectly legal. No thought to as what is good for the child. As a matter of fact many don't care about the child its all about the perversion. This celestial kingdom crap of the mormons much like this sick practice. The man is making a kingdom the kids life is secondary to his kingdom.
I'm going to continue to speak out against this because I truely believe you all are dangerous and sick. You know child molesters actually believe they are loving the child they molest? they can justify it this way. Joe Smith made a whole religion to justify his perversion. I truely believe you all have lured this country into a sleep lately on just how dangerous you are. People think this is a type of racism? Its not anymore then jailing a child abuser. Your irresposible believeing pervs
What's normal is not a real standard because laws and culture can change, and being different is not always harmful or wrong. Slavery used to be normal, as well, but that doesn't mean it was right. Teh same logic applies to polygamy and some may even extend that to gay couples where there is little to NO evidence of gays not being able to raise healthy kids despite their same-sex lifestyle.
@PolyPride3 Look you too a pervs like me plain and simple. The difference is you all are irresponsible and support a system that encourages neglect and child abuse. Now thats the end of it. What you all do is against the law and should be prosecuted as such and is in Utah. Right now I have more respect for them the rest of the country at least they know how dangerous you abdhorent breeders are.
As I mentioned before your conclusion about neglect is based on a stereotype that ALL people who practice poly will have lots of kids. Your point would be valid if every single person who wanted to be poly wanted 60 kids but that is not the case for me nor is it the case for everybody. I'd only want 2 or 3 kids the most. Also, if too many kids is the problem then that's not a polygamy thing because there are monogamous couples and single mothers who you need to also get on.
Just wondering. Would it be ok for a FLDS woman to have 3 husbands? What if say my sister supposedly "converted" and then fooled the FLDS. And when she was a member, she decided that she wanted 5 husbands. Now if FLDS women are truly free, then I'm assuming this would be ok. Just wondering...
@Dionanthon Yes, all polygamy is child abuse. Adults who do not have children and who enter plural marriage are just child abusers. Older adults whose children are grown adults are child abusers too. Even polygamists who do not, and will never, coerce their children into marrying anyone are just child abusers.
I have three wives and no kids and you can bet your ass that I'm doing it because I hate kids. It has nothing to do with the fact that I'm in love with those women and that they love me.
To teach a child to be a deviant in front of a child is child abuse. Many of these mormon polygamist teach them that they should behave in a deviant lifestyle. Much as a homosexual parent trying to talk a child into being homosexual like them is abuse. Sleeping with other women and not spending as much time thats needed with children is neglect and child abuse. Its irresponsible to the planet and traitorist. The BS that children get all the time they need with dad? na
@Dionanthon If "deviant" means anything other than inciting violence against others or denying anyone their rights, I dismiss it as your religious fanaticism. It certainly seems that way, since you are so ignorant to believe that homosexuals talk their kids into being gay...just like your parents taught you to be straight. Cause if no one taught you to be straight, you'd be gay?
Most polygamists aren't Mormon or Muslim, and most religious polygamists don't coerce their kids to marry anyone.
@mazerrackham001 I am a deviant so I know what it means to be that. I would never teach a kid that they should be like me as mormons do for their stupid celestial kingdom. I don't think Homo's do that. I have more respect for them raising kids then I do polygamist mormons thats my point.
@Dionanthon Most people never have their children with them while their sleeping with someone anyway, so how can a child be neglected if their dad is sleeping with one woman, but not neglected if he sleeps with another? If anything, living with multiple adults ensures that a child won’t be neglected. What you really want is government imposed population control, unless you feel one couple with X number of children is less likely to neglect them than more adults also with X children?
@mazerrackham001 Kids and even a woman deserve more time then is given to them because dad likes to screw all the other women. Thats just as bad as my dad going to bar all the time. The house to house polygamist doesn't impress me escpecially. God is jealous God if you truely love Him you will throw out all your other Gods to please Him. The same goes for your woman. If you truely love Her you will throw out all others from your life
@Dionanthon Additionally, there is no reason a woman married to a man can't also marry another man. My second and third wives have another husband apiece.
As for your sky god, he can suck it and not tread on me. You can call yourself a deviant (whatever the hell that means to you) on your god's behalf all you want, but there's a nice little legal principle and constitutional law that frees me from your voodoo magic.
@Dionanthon I’m actually glad people like you post your opinions so everyone can see how ridiculous and tyrannical they are. You would have the government dictate who free and consenting adults can love and spend their lives with because you think everyone of the hundreds of thousands of polygamists in Western nations neglect and abuse children, even if they don’t have any children. You would deprive people of their rights even if they have committed no crime because you oppose their lifestyle.
@Dionanthon Well then we can safely say that every parent anywhere in the globe should let their kids know that their lives aren't normal. Every religion, even the most populous is a minority, several times over. Every income group and level of prosperity is a minority compared to every other group, combined.
Even every political opinion is outnumbered by the sum of opposing views in the world, especially yours, which calls for parents to be forced to teach their kids your political views.
@Dionanthon Fortunately, those who would discriminate against others because of their bigoted views have been steadily losing influence in America and every other Western Nation since long before I was born, but if people like you do try to destroy families like mine by force, I take comfort in the fact that I, my wives, and the second husbands of my second and third wives are all very well armed and know how to use those arms.
@Dionanthon Liberty consists in the freedom to do everything which injures no one else; hence the exercise of the natural rights of each man has no limits except those which assure to the other members of the society the enjoyment of the same rights. These limits can only be determined by law.
The Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen, byt Thomas Jefferson and the Marquis de Lafayette.
@Dionanthon Free adults have equal rights, with or without children. The government has no right to infringe on a person's liberty because the children aren't being taught in a government approved way. Single Parents who work 80 hours a week to make ends meet aren't inherently abusive. Neither are the poor, the homosexual, the interracial/interfaith, or the polygamous. It is a parent's actions towards their children, not their relationships with other consenting adults, that defines abuse.
@mazerrackham001 So anything goes in child rearing? They are abusive working that many hours a weak too. Thats neglect I'm sorry. How do you explain contributing greatly to the over population of the planet thing too? The fact is we have laws in this country its not a matter of lifestyle its a matter of damaging the fabric of society to a point we wouldn't even recognize the world. Even the mormons of LDS recognize that now. Rich men will take all the young women. Its sick.
If having too many kids is your objection then that is a problem with even SINGLE women who can't keep their legs shut. So this is not an issue exclusive to MORMON polygamy, although polygamy does not even have to involve having lots of kids to begin with.
@PolyPride3 I agree ? Can't even pay for them all why should single responsible people be forced to pay for the irresponsible? Even encouraging it by giving parents like that more money come tax season. I see a new car every other year for irresponsible how is that helping us or the planet?
@PolyPride3 You know I have a sister that had four different children by four different men to get the max she could from men's paychecks and taxes? Thats sick a child being used in this way is every bit as sick as the polygamist.
@Dionanthon I'm glad you said that working to feed your children is neglect. Now everyone can see that you consider the hard working poor as nearly universally neglectful and that single parents, like my mother-in-law, who dedicate their health and happiness to provide for their children without the support of a second adult's income, are just dirty child abusers. It's so much better for the cause of liberty when despots make their true opinions known so that everyone can see how vile they are.
@Dionanthon I’m also glad you bring up the population argument. Not only do you ignore the facts that income and education levels have much larger impacts on population growth than the tiny minority of people who seek out the lifestyle I enjoy, but you also encourage the government to dictate policy to limit how many children free citizens can have, even if such laws will have negligible impact on global population growth.
@Dionanthon Your bigoted and unbridled hatred towards a religion you aren’t a part of is all anyone really needs to know about you. Mormons killed Indians, therefore all polygamists are immoral if they dare have a child, as are Mormons who weren’t even born when such unrelated atrocities occurred. I guess that if your father was a murderer, that makes you one too, by your logic.
@Dionanthon You would turn romance into communism. If a kind man wins the love of multiple women, and some douche bag can’t get a date, it’s the fault of the douche bag, not the nice guy. You don’t have a right to a mate. You earn the love of one and if you can’t find a date in a country of over 300 million, it’s because you’re a sad sack. The people voluntarily in polygamous relationships have every right to be there and you have no right to tear them apart so some other guy can have them.
@Dionanthon The laws on marriage in this country that require government permission to wed only came about in the 20th century to prevent interracial marriage. These laws are leftover from the Eugenics Movement and White Supremacy. Our founders did not ask the colonial governments for permission to wed, nor did any American before the 1900s. The people who created this country would deplore the government trying to dictate who can dedicate their life to whom.
@Dionanthon As long as a child is not incited to violence or the infringing of the rights of others, parents can teach them whatever values they want. YOU don't dictate how everyone else on Earth raises their kids. When those children grow up they will also have the freedom to choose for themselves what values to have. The Amish aren’t child abusers any more than polygamists or the poor, though a government absolutist like you may very well want to destroy their culture to propagate your own.
@Dionanthon And as long the parents aren't infringing on the rights of others or themselves, it is in no way abusive to tell their children that the lifestyle they are growing up with is perfectly acceptable, even if some bigots will disparage them for it.
If my future kids want to be in an atheist, polygamous, interracial, and homosexual relationship, that is their natural born right as free individuals. May none tread on them, as they will be sure to have firearms training from me.
@mazerrackham001 Doesn't surprize me the Mormons have been gangsters for a long time. They masacarred people in the past. Polygamy is sick and you know it and its far worse when you teach your children its some how godly to do it.
polygamy doesn't affect love. if you can't make it, then it wasn't meant to be. But it's your choice, and people should judge others decisions. how do polygamist families affect someone if you're not in one? so it doesn't really matter?
If two people of the same sex can be married, why cant multiple partners be married? Even of the same sex. How about 4 men or 4 women? This is what is called socio-relativism. Anything goes.
Polygamy is practiced in Africa by plenty of African Blacks. In fact, I believe the current South African president has 2 wives. His name is Jacob Zuma. I don't think Black American WOMEN would tolerate this as much as White American women ON AVERAGE just my opinion comparing open-mindedness between the two races, but I'm sure plenty of Black men if honest wouldn't mind.
@SirHarrison9 I know American Blacks and Mulattoes who are polyamorous. Contrary to the opinions of some, Blacks are still human beings, just like everyone else. They aren't some different, lesser species that can't handle complex social systems. They aren't penguins, they're people.
Hell, there is even a video linked to this page talking about Islamic polygamy that has two Africans as the thumbnail. You pretty much had to look at those two Black women as you were typing your comment.
I also don't think any Middle Eastern relationship is a good example due to the culture involved. Where women have no equal rights/opportunity and if marriages are arranged then even monogamy would suffer under those conditions. Before any man starts polygamy, they should have consent of ALL adults involved, including the 1st wife - otherwise you're going to cause trouble from the get-go. Somehow I doubt that's considered in many Middle eastern PATRIARCHAL countries.
Polygamy can cause a lot of jealousy but jealousy by itself does not always kill a marriage no more than for jealousy in monogamous marriages. When people have jealousy problems, you can work through it with self-therapy or even with psychologists help.
Men live shorter lives, only guys out on the frontlines in Afghanistan and Iraq, more likely to die because of domestic violence
So a lot more women than men, but I'm not finished, now let's add 'good' men vs 'good women' 75% of single parent households are ran by women. The gap is even larger.
There ain't enough good men out there for women. Sometimes you gotta share.
@manimgoindowndown Men out number women up until the 50 and up age group. There are only more women over all because men die earlier than women. So if everyone was a polygamist tons of guys in their 20s would only have 80 year old widowers to marry. Just because a woman is a single parent doesnt mean her babies daddy isnt around to pay child support. Guys who know how to use a condom dont want to date a woman who doesnt know how to use birth control pills. There arnt enough good women for men.
I agree with you. I know quite a few women who prefer MARRIED guys over single guys. I'm all for giving women the extra option to include both in their search for a partner, oh, just as long as the other wife is okay with sharing.
@MyLifeIsInHime That has absolutely nothing to do with your statement about homosexuals resulting in unsustainable amounts of children and what that has to do with polygamy. Polygamy does not need to be legalized, people can just choose to co habitate and procreate with anyone they want to... if that is really what they want. The real problem is not the act of polygamy itself, it's about how it is manifesting as slavery in groups like the FLDS & it's not close to a choice for those people.
@TheSeer101 If you are sick of the discrimination, I suggest you do something to help with the problem that the FLDS has created. Also, you might want to look into a sociology class. There is a scholarly concept about deviating from norms of society. You're deviating from societal norms & as long as there're groups like FLDS, you will continue to be persecuted. It was not until recently that the Amish escaped persecution. They're now respected & it's because they are not sick like FLDS.
@MsPollywogg Very true words. We are not even excepted by groups fighting what FLDS has done .We try to have a normal life and live under God. But people say we can not be polygamists and gay. We have a hard time finding churches who will accept us. The Unitarians have been great to us so far. But some people in that church finds being a polygamist odd.
@TheSeer101 Ahh, of course! Stick with the UU's... I am a UU. After I posted that comment, I felt I may have come across as harsh, I guess, my point is that when you are deviating from society, it's important for you to be strong on the inside and do not allow yourself to feel "sick" and if you do, do something about it through some kind of service. I'm working on building a network of peeps who will eventually be interested in helping build a support system for FLDS refugees BTW.
@TheSeer101 Ahh, of course! Stick with the UU's... I am a UU. After I posted that comment, I felt I may have come across as harsh, I guess, my point is that when you are deviating from society, it's important for you to be strong on the inside and do not allow yourself to feel "sick" and if you do, do something about it through some kind of service. I'm working on building a network of peeps who will eventually be interested in helping build a support system for FLDS refugees BTW.
Marriage should be about being with who you want if it is to have some love involved. If a man can't find a woman because no woman wanted him, then he must accept reality. If he is left single becuz women had no choice in choosing him becuz they're being swept up by men for polygamy then I'd agree with ghost's point. But we need a polygamy in the US where BOTH men and women have a choice to practice polygamy in any way, as MFF+ or FMM+ or MMM or FFF or MFFM
Polygamy does not have involve treating women like objects to collect. Don't women have choices on if they can join polygamy and leave polygamy as they do with monogamous relationships? I have a feeling you're talking more about polygamy as practiced by SOME Mormons rather than polygamy in general. There are some who aren't Mormons who want polygamy. No religion is even needed.
Something that these morons never mention is how a polygamous lifestyles sounds great for some men, but what about the ones who can't find wives? Or what about how it basically devalues women as mere objects to collect?
If people really thought it was good for every man to have a wife then the best option would still be polygamy, practiced as both polygyny and polyandry. I say that because there are more men than women, so even if every woman were married, there would still men who are single, unless they share a woman with another man. Either way, I'm for opening up polygamy to everyone and every combination of genders as long as it's between consenting adults.
ok your for or against,but to say this is dirty or wrong is hypocrisy.a big part of people do it but we call it cheating then we don,t talk about it so we can point our finger.and then for the part of women who start screaming that this is wrong and against women equality bla bla ,but a big part of you don,t mind looking for a man in a bar when your husband is out of town for work or a job ,oh before you start screaming i have a beuatiful monogamous marriage
So legalizing polygamy would not change any moral piousness of relationships compared to what we have now, other than adding the word marriage to the mix. Swinging is legal, adultery is legal (or NOT criminal in other words), 3somes are legal, etc. If you want to clean that up then making adultery and swinging illegal would be the objective rather than banning those who'd want to practice poly out of love and raising a family.
That would most likely depend on who's practicing polygamy and for what reasons. Some do believe it's possible to be in love with more than one person. Some don't and just want to have different parnters. Although, in polygamy, it's not like swinging if you remain with the SAME 2 or 3 wives/husbands for many years compared to those who bring in a new wife every 3 months or who adds another sexual partner every week or so.
I'm against banning ALL polygamy because polygamy does not have to involve religion, does not have to involve having lots of kids, does not have to involve welfare esp. welfare fraud, does not have to involve marrying off young kids or FORCED marriages. These are all stereotypes and even in teh families they do apply for, you break up the families and they'll still be on welfare. Nothing fixed! A broken marriage is WORSE than a shared marriage as one other person put it.
Here's a thought, why not punish ONLY those who do wrong rather than punishing ALL polygamists? Although, I think having TOO MANY kids and not having EVERY SPOUSE (not just the husband) work is also a problem. In those OLD STYLE poly families, ALL wives need to also work just as those in progressive polygamous families do.
@MyLifeIsInHime The Muslims are just like the FLDS... they use the same tactics. Isolation, brainwashing, fear of outsiders, threat of losing family & possessions for deviating or leaving... Your logic is very distorted and I suggest you begin to educate yourself in an objective environment.
@MyLifeIsInHime You cannot compare the two. Gay marriage is about two equal partners sharing the responsibilities of life. Polygamy (or more accurately it's polygyny, many women) is patriarchy at it's most extreme, giving one man dominion over many women. It is about control.
it is a strange way of living i totally agree, but NO BODY HAS THE RIGHT to criticize them,only GOD can judge people on judgement day at least if the man wants another wife, the children from the first marriage, still live with there father, because hes not gonna leave, even if he bring another wife home, in this world there are alot of broken marriages now, and now everyone thinks that is the norm! at least polygamy isn't a broken marriage but a shared one, and the kids are still a family.
@sarah5574 Tell that to the children who are raped and molested... tell that to all the tax payers who are paying for them to eat and paying for their healthcare because the one's in Colorado City have taken in millions of dollars in welfare benefits. Yes, they will be judged by God, but God will judge those who offer no assistance as well. I don't want my taxes supporting a brainwashed group that will do what is commanded of them... polygamy is illegal. And these people exemplify why.
It wouldn't be my choice to be a poligimist but, if they are grown adults I think they should be free to make their own choices, being awared that they don't have to be poligimst. I don't however, agree with the whole Warren Jeffs situation type stuff.
@Lucailey They are not grown adults making their own decision. They are brainwashed from birth. They are not allowed to make any kind of decision for themselves ... they are taught to obey. The molestation and rape is widespread in this community. The mothers just think that that's the way men are. When a brother molests a child, it's just what boys do. This is eg. was from "Many Wives: Vow of Silence"
well put it this way: There are 3 single men and 3 single women, all 3 women are very very sexy & beautiful.
BUT:
The 3 men are A) one is very fat and ugly, B) one is very short and skinny, and C) the third guy is 6 foot tall very handsome man, strong build, and has a big penis. To make things a bit equal: they all have one thing in common, each is a millionaire.
Tell me, which ONE out of the 3 men would each of the 3 women chooose? answer is POLYGAMY with C.
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lol,, my wife would fkn shit on my grave if i ever suggested polygamy... and fair enough fr fk sake you fkn freaky mthrfkrs. My girl is all i need and you fkn turdbags that think this is cool are either dudes with small dicks or chicks selling your asses out you fkn dumb self deserving tool mthrfkrs - i lol at you all (sidenote - stupid fkn americans)
BataBullets 5 hours ago
First off, get your facts straight Dr. Keith, polygamists are NOT Mormons or in any way, shape or form associated with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Second, am I the only one who thinks these kids are brainwashed from birth to think that polygamy is the only way to live?
rebella8898 1 day ago
I disagree with polygamy; but I find it alarming that people object to polygamy and yet they don't object to sleeping around and having multiple sex partners outside of marriage. If it is acceptable for people to have multiple sex partners outside of marriage how is it not acceptable inside of marriage?
keykey12ful 5 days ago
I was just thinking, i think its really weird that they have los of wifes but if you thin about it is it the same for all the people who cheat of their spouses except they are up from and accepting of the other people.
rcbsa159 1 week ago
FUCK ANYONE WHO DOESN'T THINK THIS IS TOTALLY FUCKED UP!!!
getfuckedanddie1 1 week ago
I feel like the interviewer is hating. STOP hating! YAY polygamy!!!
wiliwaler 2 weeks ago
I think if they are open and happy then let them live how they like :)
vanillacokelover1 2 weeks ago
nothing more annoying than arrogant americans who think their only ideal way of life is correct. There culture is still so young -.-
Kiyamlol 2 weeks ago 2
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After it was "officially" stopped the Romney's fled the US to Mexico (illegally) to keep polygamy. Romney's dad was the 1st Mexican-American candidate for POTUS.
Romney is a Mormon bishop, a descendant of 1 of the original Joe Smith apostles and whose g-gramps illegally fled to Mexico to stay ahead of US law (he STILL had cousins in Mexico - look it up!)
One gramps who married his 12th wife got shot dead by the husband of of the last woman he had a "celestial" marriage with.
American values!
dleechristy 3 weeks ago
Here's a down side 90% of them live off of food stamps. In a community of 200 polygamists in 30 years you'd have no option but to screw your relatives.
THEINVENTABLETHREAT 3 weeks ago
Hmm...I often imagine the community that would result from the use of boundary dissolving pyschedelic drugs and an orgiastic lifestyle. Orgy and drugs are both words that are taboo to many people, but lets look at what would happen: there's no way to trace paternity. This results in the COMMUNITY caring for the children because, "hey this might be mine". I see so many fucking cunty, ignorant people walking around today. Why? Got a shit roll of the dice and terrible programming from parents
Savantrick 3 weeks ago
The problem I see is that people are tying it to religion at all. That is where the problem lies. It's just about personal choice. To each theri own man, But NO WAY could I share my life partner, but that is me.. If I have the need for someone else. Time to fly, but I also believe in choice and change...
jamycraballen69 4 weeks ago
@norcorneliocastrogom If I wanted poly just to have all the girls I want then I'd have hundreds of wives but I dont want that. I'd want my wife to have a choice or say becuz I want her to be emotionally and physically satisfied and factoring choice, feelings, and sex can create more trouble than what its worth when you have too many wives. So your point does not apply to me and other hard working poly dads..esp. those who like me would want only 2 wives and with my wife's choice
PolyPride3 1 month ago
stupid people this is not about religion. Is simply that the guys just want to have sex with all the girls they want without any consequences and want to have them all without loosing any one and they shield themselves saying is "religion"
norcorneliocastrogom 1 month ago
cont'd from my last comment..
Polygyny was practiced for inheritance (the levirate law), desire for lots of chidren, etc. Nowadays, it can be practiced in a dishonest way as cheating or in honest ways in a marriage. I'm not a Mormon nor a Babylonian brotherhood member and I'd only want to practice polygamy if my wife wanted it w/ me. Otherwise, I'm fine with just being with her only.
PolyPride3 1 month ago
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Polygynous behavior is also observed in the animal world, so I suppose these animals are part of some cult, as well? People sound very stupid when they think everyone practices polygamy or marriage in general for all the same reasons. There is no one theory for polygamy just as there isn't one for monogamy. People can practice it for different reasons even as simple as just wanting to experiment. Polyandry is practiced for inheritance in India and Tibet. cont'd
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@tiarnan76 If by a hippie commune you mean a everyone screwing anyone then you are wrong. Poly was practiced before Joseph Smith and by Jews considered righteos in the Bible. Polygamists at least engage in a marriage so im not sure about your comparison to hippies or your isolating of poly to Mormonism.
PolyPride3 1 month ago
Joseph Smith was part of the Babylonian Brotherhood and his religion is an apostasy to the true Christian Faith...Polygamous families are the same as a hippy commune, or indeed communism ...which of course are two further systems created by the BB
tiarnan76 1 month ago
These children were being asked some tough questions, almost like Dr dude wanted to get a rise out of them. Beautiful hearts they all have and well I can relate only in the sense that my parents divorced when I was 3 and remarried different spouses. The hate they get is just sinful human nature. Envy, jealousy, unhappiness in ones own life. Judge not lest you be judged.. and whats the other one remove the plank in your own eye before trying to take the speck from your neighbors..
AgainstAllOdds3188 1 month ago
i think polygamy could be taken seriously if it wasnt sponsored by all these religious nuts. bring back polygamy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yngvae2 1 month ago
hell yea ! finally! hope ur not a bunch of crazy reilgious nuts tho
yngvae2 1 month ago
Fucking polygamists.
BoomBoy13 1 month ago
People always say polygamy is out dated, when there are so many "indirect" poygamist walking around. These are them: "baby daddies", mistresses, "girl on the side", "side join", out of town girlfriend, trophy, etc. (I know I left some ou)t. Polygamy just basically adds rules to all of that and hold everyone accounted for.
ummabdurrahman1 1 month ago 22
These folk are not Mormons. Mormons do not practice polygamy. They are not a part of our faith.
llewellleo 1 month ago
some people are BORN with the ability to love more than 1 person at the same time. i'm not a fundamentalist mormon myself, i'm a bisexual catholic polygamist. merry christmas to all n many hugz too! :) xoxo
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PolyPride3 1 month ago
I wish he would stop calling them "Mormons". Not because I have a problem with poly-lifestyles, but because it perpetuates that myth that all members are practicing polygamy.
MargieMama 1 month ago
@MargieMama ya there is lds and flds.
gary77777778888888 1 month ago
whats the cap on the wife count ?
Evaese 1 month ago
@Evaese There's no cap! LOL. There would be for me though!
MargieMama 1 month ago
I'm sold... I want all those 3 pretty girls as my wives now.
blazedondatcron 1 month ago 2
If your intention is to practice polygamy in your future adult life, it's foolish to date people who don't feel the same way!
heartgirl40 1 month ago
cont'd response to LoneRock..
Polygamy is not outdated, but rather the WAY it was practiced is outdated just as the OLD way monogamy was practiced is outdated where women were often ARRANGED in marriages and had little to no say. Polygamy is not always built on a drive to have as many children and as many wives, but rather it's nowadays built on love (love for more than one person) and CONSENT of ALL adults involved. And I'd say the culture is changing again, esp. with gay marriage in the mix.
PolyPride3 1 month ago 30
@PolyPride3 VERY well said.
MargieMama 1 month ago
@MargieMama
Thanks!
PolyPride3 1 month ago
I'm sorry but for these nice young adults to be called Mormons is misleading to the viewers. Ive attended Mormon services for 38 years, every week, and have never seen, met, or heard of a polygamist that was still a member of the church. In fact, they don't allow it. It is a lifestyle that those youts' families chose and it looks like they turned out ok and respectable. In fact, based on their demeanor, i would not hesitate to associate with them or work side by side with them in business. But
dsloanification 2 months ago 2
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If you can't keep a marriage or boyfriend / girlfriend relationship for long then is impossible to stay in a polygamous marriage without getting a divorce.
Polygamy isn't for everyone especially people who have their heads up their own asses.
wwwuraRetard 2 months ago
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wwwuraRetard 2 months ago
I respect their right to live their lifestyles however they feel comfortable with, but
Here's what I don't understand: What makes a man so special that he gets more than one wife? Why not a woman and a bunch of men? Does it not cheapen the worth of the woman when she has to share her relationship with others, one woman isn't good enough?
kiikat 2 months ago
@kiikat two men one woman exsits it is called Polyandry
NoirBillie 2 months ago
Beautiful ...they seem genuine and real
thanks for sharing
gaiagale 2 months ago
yea the tyler fag would want to be a polgamist because he's buut ugly and can't get any
rollacosta41 2 months ago
That's true doit420. It's easy to see that many aren't truly monogamous when there's so much cheating going on from both sexes. Even those many people don't always act on it but lots of times they're still thinking and desiring it. There's a reason the porn industry is booming and why there's so many viewers even among the married crowd desiring the girls on porn videos.
PolyPride3 2 months ago
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PolyPride3 2 months ago
Very few people are monogamous. These people are simply honest as where most people aren't.
If you have gay marriage today, you will have polygamy tomorrow.
doit420sdf 2 months ago
@doit420sdf lol that comment made me laugh. The central principle of monogamy is the instrumental value it provides in forming a stable family unit where the man provides out of love for his women and children. This is why there is so much sexual competition between men and women in society, and why women are so rivalrous and jealous to each other.
The truth is, we are far more monogamous than polygamous and our brains are geared to form a central attachment, reinforced from birth.
LoneRookRS1 2 months ago
@LoneRookRS1
Monogamy isn't necessarily stable when you have a series of cheating, divorces, and remarriage. I'd say both polygamy and monogamy can produce stable family units depending on the participants involved. Whether or not we're more monogamous than polygamous may depend on the person. I'm in a relationship and I've found plenty other women that I'm attracted to and some of them were my type after I got to know them. Most people won't admit that out of insecurity.
PolyPride3 2 months ago
@PolyPride3 I don't believe you can build a stable family unit through polygamy - it is an outdated and primitive mindset built on the mammalian drive for a male to impregnate as many females as possible. Over time, we have developed more monogamous instincts because of the survival advantages of having a parental pair dedicated to specific offspring, as well as the reduced risk of inbreeding. Infidelity and divorce may be due to cultural influences and how children are raised.
LoneRookRS1 1 month ago
@LoneRookRS1
I'm not sure why you believe polygamy can't lead to a stable family if all of the spouses stay together. I can see if this was a revolving door of different partners in and out but that is not the case with everyone. Some polygamists have been married to the SAME 2, 3, or more wives for years. Compare that to monogamy where that's not even a theme for many IN PRACTICE any more due to rampant cheating and broken marriages.
PolyPride3 1 month ago
Ewwy "lets all just share our sex fuids guys, hey dad go do your first wife then 2nd then 3rd so they can alllll share the same vaginal fluids" bleh
McCherryParry 2 months ago
mental ppl
samikurt100 2 months ago
there's another name fo people who date multiple people... they're called "Swingers" XD
Lithiel 2 months ago
These people are insane
paramorelove100 3 months ago
These girls are so brainwashed, but I'd bang them all, and apparently they're up for it!
sandmanmac 3 months ago
Hey I was walking by the creek today and guess what? John the baptist, baptised me. Yeah no shit me..... Can you believe it? Now if you didn't buy that story from me and fifteen people I don't know swearing they saw me there why on earth would you buy it from the idiot Joe?
Dionanthon 3 months ago
Want to know how to greet a mormon? Watch the utube clip "Mormon Missionaries Meet their Match!" It hilliarious and exactly what you should do should they come to your home. Maybe they will quit their sick ass religion.
Dionanthon 3 months ago
hey if gay peoplke can fight for their rights why not us poligamists
acemahmood 3 months ago
Good Job Joseph Smith. A fucked up generation follows your "manifesto"
amyleoness 3 months ago
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The Bible does not forbid polygamy. You don't need to abandon your wives in order to become a Christian. Now, that blonde girl (Katherine), I might want to marry her, but I don't promise to get sister wives. lol
davidbenjeshua 3 months ago
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davidbenjeshua 3 months ago
i understand that it can be swell for the man - but maybe just from the outside... ...but isn't there going to be a shortage of women...??? ...i mean if one guy has 10 women, what about the 9 guys without one... ...i would be pretty pissed if i was one of the 9... ...it just must lead to a civil war in such a society... ...guys get really aggresive without sex...
TheYouwontgetit 3 months ago
Actually, if the US is suppose to be a place of religious freedom, you have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and having a job = life, funding it, and happiness = marriage and the right to it with those you choose, then NOT protecting this legally is really NOT constitutional and not in the spirit of the nation the US is suppose to be, hence restricting gays, polyagmists is against that foundation which is suppose to be UNLIKE other nations and uniquely American.
Foreshadow44 3 months ago
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QUESTION
1.What kind of job does a man have to be able to support 38 kids and 6 wives?
2.Why is it the male that have all the wives and the wife is not allowed to have multiple husbands?
3.Does the hoax of Adam and Eve and referring to god(s) as a male figure has anything to do with this?
4.If in a polygamy community 1 male takes 5 females, how many males have to leave to find a wife or girl friend outside?
5.Could polygamy lead to incest just like in Colorado City,AZ?
guayacan07 3 months ago
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guayacan07 3 months ago
doesn't include polygamy? Yeah the mormons just left that out. What kind of a religion does that? Leaves out the parts of the stories they don't like. They said they broke no laws yet were persecuted and thrown out of two states just because the size of their group. No mention of polygamy, I could not believe this deception this hurts the real message of Jesus Christ and replaces it with this Luciferian deception. Jesus is about truth and this is clearly about lies and destructive to us al
Dionanthon 3 months ago
@Dionanthon There is no proof that Joseph Smith practiced polygamy. In fact he made public statements against it. The practice started with Brigham Young after Smith's death. There is no proven case of Joseph Smith having a child with a woman other than his wife Emma Smith. The question is why they had such differing policies. Either Smith didn't want to accept this revelation, or Young made it all up for personal reasons, or God instructed them differently. I don't know the answer.
pite9 3 months ago
What? Come on Joe was a practicing perv. You must believe that John the baptist came back from the dead just so he could baptise Joe too? For the first time in history John the baptist came back from the dead for ole, rock in the hat deving Joe. You probably don't believe Joe put a magic rock in his hat to find gold either? I don't think he ever wrote about that nonsense either. So people ran Joe out just because he met Moroni huh? Not plural marriage? The 3, 14 year old brides all non?
Dionanthon 3 months ago
@Dionanthon The only religious leader I have 100% faith about is Jesus. I agree that this polygamy stuff stinks, but maybe there are explanations, or maybe not. Joseph Smith seemed like a standup guy though, and since there's no proof, I think he's clean. If he lied about this then his church is a lie too. Of course that's what you believe. However I think many of the circumstances of the church and the book of mormon are extraordinary, so you can't write him off that easily.
pite9 3 months ago
@pite9 Tell me what seems stand up about this guy? He started out getting people to give him money to find gold for them with a rock in his hat guiding him. Then suddenly John the baptist, came to baptise him then he has these gold tablets he interpreted that he put back in the ground so the world could never see them. Then Moses and Jesus came to visit him. He ran as fast as he could with gold tablets in one arm from bandits to stupid in his lie to know the tablets would have been 235 lbs.
Dionanthon 3 months ago
@Dionanthon The tablets were probably gold plated brass, so they weighed less than half of that. The plates states that israelites traveled to South or Central America, and they were written in some egyptian dialect, so do you really think God would want the public to see them? If the story is true, then someone who knew ancient egyptian would have been able to prove that they were real, and there's no way that someone as young as Joseph Smith and with that background would know such a language.
pite9 3 months ago
@pite9 The gold tablets never existed like the the towns and place he pulled out of thin air. This guys wasn't even a good liar come on pite9? I think that God would want us all to see them Jesus said what good is a lamp stand under a rock? Good point on the language? Its so cool that the rossette stone was decipered not long before Joes BS. Its like he read the latest sci fi and wrote a book of nonsense. WHAT MADE THIS GUY SO SPECIAL TO GOD? His career as a gold con artist? His huge EGO
Dionanthon 3 months ago
@Dionanthon Besides, a handful of ppl claim to have seen them. If the tablets didn't exist, do you really think they would follow him and help spread his lies? You can also see that there are cultural similarities with meso/south american and egyptian culture, like the pyramids. If these israelites wrote egyptian it suggests that egypt was the cultural leader of the region, which suggests that they would be influenced by their construction as well.
pite9 3 months ago
@pite9 Yes I do. I think if they could have there little polygamist lifestyle they'd agree to any lie. As for construction I seen stuff on mars that looks like the pyramids and the spinx. I heard better lies from alien abuduction sources. Tell me how in the world Joe was able to interpret them with the crap education he had? You really think John the baptist came back from the dead and baptised this guy? PLEASE tell me what makes Joe so special, blood line? no. His life as a gold con man
Dionanthon 3 months ago
@Dionanthon Polygamy wasn't practiced by any of the witnesses of the plates. Yes, he wouldn't have the education to translate the plates. That's the point. When Joseph Smith published the Book of Mormon, he was 24, the same age as me, and I'll say this, if someone like me fictioned something as grand and complex as the Book of Mormon it would be an extraordinary feat. This is almost more unlikely than someone finding some plates and translating them with the help of God.
pite9 3 months ago
@pite9 Read a good Russian author like Dostoyevsky. Crime and Punishment, The Idiot... He smokes Joe and his stolen plagiarized book. And putting your head in an old white hat, with a pet rock and sticking your head into that hat and conjuring up a book is not indicative of divinity. the OAHSPE is much longer than the BofM and written under spiritualist automatic handwriting as well but it's not divine.
IExposeMormonism 2 months ago
If Mitt Romney wasn't running for president i wouldn't even bother here. since this man has decided to bring Mormonism to the forefront and his very presense if he became president would be a huge endorsement to his perv religion. I hope everyone steps up to plate here on Joe Smith and the lies this cult tells. So that brings me to the immorality of polygamy. I hope the closer he gets to the nomination the more negative attention comes to both these groups. You know the movie of Joe's life
Dionanthon 3 months ago
Poly Pride ok lets do the math then. Thats one kid for you and one kid for a sister wife if your looking at it that way. Then if you have three thats two kids for you one for sister wife. Oh thats gonna work so well. Ok lets look at this you get 3 kids and 3 sister wives have 3 kids too. Thats nine kids. This plan of your looks as phoney as Joe Smiths tale about John the baptist coming back from the dead to baptise him.
Dionanthon 3 months ago
@Dionanthon
I said I only want 2 or 3 kids total so I'm not sure why you put words in my mouth. ANd I'd also only want 2 wives the most so that would be 1 kid each wife or maybe one of them will have 2 kids. I'm not a MOrmon so I don't really care about Joseph Smith. You need to begin to realize that there are Non-Mormons and even Non-religious folk who would practice poly, and it would not be in any of the ISOLATED secretive cult/sects that the media often focuses on.
PolyPride3 3 months ago
@PolyPride3 Why wouldn't he put words in your mouth and assume you're in a religious group he hates so he can disparage you as much as possible? He already believes in punishing people for crimes they didn't commit because they're in the wrong demographic and has called for the state to take direct and total control over the reproductive rights of the citizens, their right of association (cause fuck the Constitution I guess) and of the indoctrination of all children. What's can more thing hurt?
mazerrackham001 3 months ago
@mazerrackham001
Good point. I actually believe religion is also partly to blame for the monogamy-ONLY cultural stand due to many Catholics and Protestants and the majority/dominant religion influence on culture since 1800s and even before that. I won't paint all Christians that way since some Christians aren't anti-polygamy but many are unfortunately and raise their kids and try to dominate the culture in the like manner.
PolyPride3 3 months ago
You heard it folks. Every polygamist is a child molester, regardless of whether or not they molest or even have children. That's the kind of people we're dealing with: the kind of people who would punish a whole population for the crimes of individuals, most of whom are monogamists, NOT polygamists. By that logic we can argue that, because Blacks are more likely to commit crimes, all Blacks should be locked up to protect everyone else. It's morally despicable, but liberty will reign in America.
mazerrackham001 3 months ago
Polygamy to some may be all about sex but to others it's about wanting love and support from more than ONE person that you love and want in your relationship. I find it arrogant that someone paints every single guy with the same brush and thinks they know every single guy better than every single guy knows himself. Stick to your own head and motives unless you can actually PROVE me and my intentions wrong.
PolyPride3 3 months ago
You two may not know about thing called black breeding? Where a white couple brings in a black man to breed just because it turns them on. This is perfectly legal. No thought to as what is good for the child. As a matter of fact many don't care about the child its all about the perversion. This celestial kingdom crap of the mormons much like this sick practice. The man is making a kingdom the kids life is secondary to his kingdom.
Dionanthon 3 months ago
I'm going to continue to speak out against this because I truely believe you all are dangerous and sick. You know child molesters actually believe they are loving the child they molest? they can justify it this way. Joe Smith made a whole religion to justify his perversion. I truely believe you all have lured this country into a sleep lately on just how dangerous you are. People think this is a type of racism? Its not anymore then jailing a child abuser. Your irresposible believeing pervs
Dionanthon 3 months ago
I meant to say you two of course
Dionanthon 3 months ago
Dianothon,
What's normal is not a real standard because laws and culture can change, and being different is not always harmful or wrong. Slavery used to be normal, as well, but that doesn't mean it was right. Teh same logic applies to polygamy and some may even extend that to gay couples where there is little to NO evidence of gays not being able to raise healthy kids despite their same-sex lifestyle.
PolyPride3 3 months ago
@PolyPride3 Look you too a pervs like me plain and simple. The difference is you all are irresponsible and support a system that encourages neglect and child abuse. Now thats the end of it. What you all do is against the law and should be prosecuted as such and is in Utah. Right now I have more respect for them the rest of the country at least they know how dangerous you abdhorent breeders are.
Dionanthon 3 months ago
@Dionanthon
As I mentioned before your conclusion about neglect is based on a stereotype that ALL people who practice poly will have lots of kids. Your point would be valid if every single person who wanted to be poly wanted 60 kids but that is not the case for me nor is it the case for everybody. I'd only want 2 or 3 kids the most. Also, if too many kids is the problem then that's not a polygamy thing because there are monogamous couples and single mothers who you need to also get on.
PolyPride3 3 months ago
Just wondering. Would it be ok for a FLDS woman to have 3 husbands? What if say my sister supposedly "converted" and then fooled the FLDS. And when she was a member, she decided that she wanted 5 husbands. Now if FLDS women are truly free, then I'm assuming this would be ok. Just wondering...
BlongBlarble 3 months ago
Polygamy is child abuse and neglect its sickening.
Dionanthon 3 months ago
@Dionanthon Yes, all polygamy is child abuse. Adults who do not have children and who enter plural marriage are just child abusers. Older adults whose children are grown adults are child abusers too. Even polygamists who do not, and will never, coerce their children into marrying anyone are just child abusers.
I have three wives and no kids and you can bet your ass that I'm doing it because I hate kids. It has nothing to do with the fact that I'm in love with those women and that they love me.
mazerrackham001 3 months ago
@mazerrackham001
To teach a child to be a deviant in front of a child is child abuse. Many of these mormon polygamist teach them that they should behave in a deviant lifestyle. Much as a homosexual parent trying to talk a child into being homosexual like them is abuse. Sleeping with other women and not spending as much time thats needed with children is neglect and child abuse. Its irresponsible to the planet and traitorist. The BS that children get all the time they need with dad? na
Dionanthon 3 months ago
@Dionanthon If "deviant" means anything other than inciting violence against others or denying anyone their rights, I dismiss it as your religious fanaticism. It certainly seems that way, since you are so ignorant to believe that homosexuals talk their kids into being gay...just like your parents taught you to be straight. Cause if no one taught you to be straight, you'd be gay?
Most polygamists aren't Mormon or Muslim, and most religious polygamists don't coerce their kids to marry anyone.
mazerrackham001 3 months ago
@mazerrackham001 I am a deviant so I know what it means to be that. I would never teach a kid that they should be like me as mormons do for their stupid celestial kingdom. I don't think Homo's do that. I have more respect for them raising kids then I do polygamist mormons thats my point.
Dionanthon 3 months ago
@Dionanthon Most people never have their children with them while their sleeping with someone anyway, so how can a child be neglected if their dad is sleeping with one woman, but not neglected if he sleeps with another? If anything, living with multiple adults ensures that a child won’t be neglected. What you really want is government imposed population control, unless you feel one couple with X number of children is less likely to neglect them than more adults also with X children?
mazerrackham001 3 months ago
@mazerrackham001 Kids and even a woman deserve more time then is given to them because dad likes to screw all the other women. Thats just as bad as my dad going to bar all the time. The house to house polygamist doesn't impress me escpecially. God is jealous God if you truely love Him you will throw out all your other Gods to please Him. The same goes for your woman. If you truely love Her you will throw out all others from your life
Dionanthon 3 months ago
@Dionanthon Additionally, there is no reason a woman married to a man can't also marry another man. My second and third wives have another husband apiece.
As for your sky god, he can suck it and not tread on me. You can call yourself a deviant (whatever the hell that means to you) on your god's behalf all you want, but there's a nice little legal principle and constitutional law that frees me from your voodoo magic.
Live free or die.
mazerrackham001 3 months ago
@Dionanthon I’m actually glad people like you post your opinions so everyone can see how ridiculous and tyrannical they are. You would have the government dictate who free and consenting adults can love and spend their lives with because you think everyone of the hundreds of thousands of polygamists in Western nations neglect and abuse children, even if they don’t have any children. You would deprive people of their rights even if they have committed no crime because you oppose their lifestyle.
mazerrackham001 3 months ago
@mazerrackham001 I don't oppose any lifestyle as long as its not presented to their kids as normal.
Dionanthon 3 months ago
@Dionanthon Well then we can safely say that every parent anywhere in the globe should let their kids know that their lives aren't normal. Every religion, even the most populous is a minority, several times over. Every income group and level of prosperity is a minority compared to every other group, combined.
Even every political opinion is outnumbered by the sum of opposing views in the world, especially yours, which calls for parents to be forced to teach their kids your political views.
mazerrackham001 3 months ago
@Dionanthon Fortunately, those who would discriminate against others because of their bigoted views have been steadily losing influence in America and every other Western Nation since long before I was born, but if people like you do try to destroy families like mine by force, I take comfort in the fact that I, my wives, and the second husbands of my second and third wives are all very well armed and know how to use those arms.
Sic semper tyrannis - Thus always to tyrants.
mazerrackham001 3 months ago
@Dionanthon Liberty consists in the freedom to do everything which injures no one else; hence the exercise of the natural rights of each man has no limits except those which assure to the other members of the society the enjoyment of the same rights. These limits can only be determined by law.
The Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen, byt Thomas Jefferson and the Marquis de Lafayette.
mazerrackham001 3 months ago
@mazerrackham001 Hey no kids do what ya want is the way I feel.
Dionanthon 3 months ago
@Dionanthon Free adults have equal rights, with or without children. The government has no right to infringe on a person's liberty because the children aren't being taught in a government approved way. Single Parents who work 80 hours a week to make ends meet aren't inherently abusive. Neither are the poor, the homosexual, the interracial/interfaith, or the polygamous. It is a parent's actions towards their children, not their relationships with other consenting adults, that defines abuse.
mazerrackham001 3 months ago
@mazerrackham001 So anything goes in child rearing? They are abusive working that many hours a weak too. Thats neglect I'm sorry. How do you explain contributing greatly to the over population of the planet thing too? The fact is we have laws in this country its not a matter of lifestyle its a matter of damaging the fabric of society to a point we wouldn't even recognize the world. Even the mormons of LDS recognize that now. Rich men will take all the young women. Its sick.
Dionanthon 3 months ago
@Dionanthon
If having too many kids is your objection then that is a problem with even SINGLE women who can't keep their legs shut. So this is not an issue exclusive to MORMON polygamy, although polygamy does not even have to involve having lots of kids to begin with.
PolyPride3 3 months ago
@PolyPride3 I agree ? Can't even pay for them all why should single responsible people be forced to pay for the irresponsible? Even encouraging it by giving parents like that more money come tax season. I see a new car every other year for irresponsible how is that helping us or the planet?
Dionanthon 3 months ago
@PolyPride3 You know I have a sister that had four different children by four different men to get the max she could from men's paychecks and taxes? Thats sick a child being used in this way is every bit as sick as the polygamist.
Dionanthon 3 months ago
@Dionanthon I'm glad you said that working to feed your children is neglect. Now everyone can see that you consider the hard working poor as nearly universally neglectful and that single parents, like my mother-in-law, who dedicate their health and happiness to provide for their children without the support of a second adult's income, are just dirty child abusers. It's so much better for the cause of liberty when despots make their true opinions known so that everyone can see how vile they are.
mazerrackham001 3 months ago
@Dionanthon I’m also glad you bring up the population argument. Not only do you ignore the facts that income and education levels have much larger impacts on population growth than the tiny minority of people who seek out the lifestyle I enjoy, but you also encourage the government to dictate policy to limit how many children free citizens can have, even if such laws will have negligible impact on global population growth.
mazerrackham001 3 months ago
@Dionanthon Your bigoted and unbridled hatred towards a religion you aren’t a part of is all anyone really needs to know about you. Mormons killed Indians, therefore all polygamists are immoral if they dare have a child, as are Mormons who weren’t even born when such unrelated atrocities occurred. I guess that if your father was a murderer, that makes you one too, by your logic.
mazerrackham001 3 months ago
@Dionanthon You would turn romance into communism. If a kind man wins the love of multiple women, and some douche bag can’t get a date, it’s the fault of the douche bag, not the nice guy. You don’t have a right to a mate. You earn the love of one and if you can’t find a date in a country of over 300 million, it’s because you’re a sad sack. The people voluntarily in polygamous relationships have every right to be there and you have no right to tear them apart so some other guy can have them.
mazerrackham001 3 months ago
@Dionanthon The laws on marriage in this country that require government permission to wed only came about in the 20th century to prevent interracial marriage. These laws are leftover from the Eugenics Movement and White Supremacy. Our founders did not ask the colonial governments for permission to wed, nor did any American before the 1900s. The people who created this country would deplore the government trying to dictate who can dedicate their life to whom.
mazerrackham001 3 months ago
@Dionanthon As long as a child is not incited to violence or the infringing of the rights of others, parents can teach them whatever values they want. YOU don't dictate how everyone else on Earth raises their kids. When those children grow up they will also have the freedom to choose for themselves what values to have. The Amish aren’t child abusers any more than polygamists or the poor, though a government absolutist like you may very well want to destroy their culture to propagate your own.
mazerrackham001 3 months ago
@Dionanthon And as long the parents aren't infringing on the rights of others or themselves, it is in no way abusive to tell their children that the lifestyle they are growing up with is perfectly acceptable, even if some bigots will disparage them for it.
If my future kids want to be in an atheist, polygamous, interracial, and homosexual relationship, that is their natural born right as free individuals. May none tread on them, as they will be sure to have firearms training from me.
mazerrackham001 3 months ago
@mazerrackham001 Doesn't surprize me the Mormons have been gangsters for a long time. They masacarred people in the past. Polygamy is sick and you know it and its far worse when you teach your children its some how godly to do it.
Dionanthon 3 months ago
polygamy doesn't affect love. if you can't make it, then it wasn't meant to be. But it's your choice, and people should judge others decisions. how do polygamist families affect someone if you're not in one? so it doesn't really matter?
samrosen0713 3 months ago
If two people of the same sex can be married, why cant multiple partners be married? Even of the same sex. How about 4 men or 4 women? This is what is called socio-relativism. Anything goes.
99percentatheist 3 months ago
Polygamy is practiced in Africa by plenty of African Blacks. In fact, I believe the current South African president has 2 wives. His name is Jacob Zuma. I don't think Black American WOMEN would tolerate this as much as White American women ON AVERAGE just my opinion comparing open-mindedness between the two races, but I'm sure plenty of Black men if honest wouldn't mind.
PolyPride3 3 months ago
whats funny about this....in america, you only see white people doing this shit....lets be honest...a black person would never join this insanity.
SirHarrison9 3 months ago
@SirHarrison9 I know American Blacks and Mulattoes who are polyamorous. Contrary to the opinions of some, Blacks are still human beings, just like everyone else. They aren't some different, lesser species that can't handle complex social systems. They aren't penguins, they're people.
Hell, there is even a video linked to this page talking about Islamic polygamy that has two Africans as the thumbnail. You pretty much had to look at those two Black women as you were typing your comment.
mazerrackham001 3 months ago
i dont think its wrong havin to many mothers.... its like sayin u cant hav two mums who are lezbion
GalwayChick 4 months ago
FJY,
I also don't think any Middle Eastern relationship is a good example due to the culture involved. Where women have no equal rights/opportunity and if marriages are arranged then even monogamy would suffer under those conditions. Before any man starts polygamy, they should have consent of ALL adults involved, including the 1st wife - otherwise you're going to cause trouble from the get-go. Somehow I doubt that's considered in many Middle eastern PATRIARCHAL countries.
PolyPride3 4 months ago
FJY,
Polygamy can cause a lot of jealousy but jealousy by itself does not always kill a marriage no more than for jealousy in monogamous marriages. When people have jealousy problems, you can work through it with self-therapy or even with psychologists help.
PolyPride3 4 months ago
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PolyPride3 4 months ago
@MyLifeIsInHime Obviously you'd rather stay blind to the elephant in the room.
MsPollywogg 4 months ago
HOW THE FUCK IS POLYGAMY A BAD IDEA?
Let's look at the US:
More women than men
Men live shorter lives, only guys out on the frontlines in Afghanistan and Iraq, more likely to die because of domestic violence
So a lot more women than men, but I'm not finished, now let's add 'good' men vs 'good women' 75% of single parent households are ran by women. The gap is even larger.
There ain't enough good men out there for women. Sometimes you gotta share.
manimgoindowndown 4 months ago
@manimgoindowndown Men out number women up until the 50 and up age group. There are only more women over all because men die earlier than women. So if everyone was a polygamist tons of guys in their 20s would only have 80 year old widowers to marry. Just because a woman is a single parent doesnt mean her babies daddy isnt around to pay child support. Guys who know how to use a condom dont want to date a woman who doesnt know how to use birth control pills. There arnt enough good women for men.
Farf420 4 months ago
@manimgoindowndown
I agree with you. I know quite a few women who prefer MARRIED guys over single guys. I'm all for giving women the extra option to include both in their search for a partner, oh, just as long as the other wife is okay with sharing.
PolyPride3 4 months ago
@MyLifeIsInHime That has absolutely nothing to do with your statement about homosexuals resulting in unsustainable amounts of children and what that has to do with polygamy. Polygamy does not need to be legalized, people can just choose to co habitate and procreate with anyone they want to... if that is really what they want. The real problem is not the act of polygamy itself, it's about how it is manifesting as slavery in groups like the FLDS & it's not close to a choice for those people.
MsPollywogg 4 months ago
I am a man and a polygamist. My wives are transgendered Male to female and we are sick of the discrimination.
TheSeer101 4 months ago
@TheSeer101 If you are sick of the discrimination, I suggest you do something to help with the problem that the FLDS has created. Also, you might want to look into a sociology class. There is a scholarly concept about deviating from norms of society. You're deviating from societal norms & as long as there're groups like FLDS, you will continue to be persecuted. It was not until recently that the Amish escaped persecution. They're now respected & it's because they are not sick like FLDS.
MsPollywogg 4 months ago
@MsPollywogg Very true words. We are not even excepted by groups fighting what FLDS has done .We try to have a normal life and live under God. But people say we can not be polygamists and gay. We have a hard time finding churches who will accept us. The Unitarians have been great to us so far. But some people in that church finds being a polygamist odd.
TheSeer101 4 months ago
@TheSeer101 Ahh, of course! Stick with the UU's... I am a UU. After I posted that comment, I felt I may have come across as harsh, I guess, my point is that when you are deviating from society, it's important for you to be strong on the inside and do not allow yourself to feel "sick" and if you do, do something about it through some kind of service. I'm working on building a network of peeps who will eventually be interested in helping build a support system for FLDS refugees BTW.
MsPollywogg 4 months ago
@TheSeer101 Ahh, of course! Stick with the UU's... I am a UU. After I posted that comment, I felt I may have come across as harsh, I guess, my point is that when you are deviating from society, it's important for you to be strong on the inside and do not allow yourself to feel "sick" and if you do, do something about it through some kind of service. I'm working on building a network of peeps who will eventually be interested in helping build a support system for FLDS refugees BTW.
MsPollywogg 4 months ago
38 is alot but he choose that life...
monsterINyourlife 4 months ago
38 sib
GirtopolisArashiki 4 months ago
fuck polygamy. my man is gonna be mine and mine only.
defyingcredentials 4 months ago
To add to one of my other comments.
Marriage should be about being with who you want if it is to have some love involved. If a man can't find a woman because no woman wanted him, then he must accept reality. If he is left single becuz women had no choice in choosing him becuz they're being swept up by men for polygamy then I'd agree with ghost's point. But we need a polygamy in the US where BOTH men and women have a choice to practice polygamy in any way, as MFF+ or FMM+ or MMM or FFF or MFFM
PolyPride3 4 months ago
Polygamy does not have involve treating women like objects to collect. Don't women have choices on if they can join polygamy and leave polygamy as they do with monogamous relationships? I have a feeling you're talking more about polygamy as practiced by SOME Mormons rather than polygamy in general. There are some who aren't Mormons who want polygamy. No religion is even needed.
PolyPride3 4 months ago
Something that these morons never mention is how a polygamous lifestyles sounds great for some men, but what about the ones who can't find wives? Or what about how it basically devalues women as mere objects to collect?
ghostofxmaspast 4 months ago
@ghostofxmaspast
If people really thought it was good for every man to have a wife then the best option would still be polygamy, practiced as both polygyny and polyandry. I say that because there are more men than women, so even if every woman were married, there would still men who are single, unless they share a woman with another man. Either way, I'm for opening up polygamy to everyone and every combination of genders as long as it's between consenting adults.
PolyPride3 4 months ago
I think polygamy should be legal so long as its by choice NOT force. Though I personally think polygamy is retarded.
Shonenut213 4 months ago
Polygnandry is when both a man and a woman in the relationship have multiple spouses.
PolyPride3 4 months ago
Polygamy is the General Term. Polyandry is when women have multiple partners, and Polygyny is when men have multiple partners.
chloeperrault 4 months ago
ok your for or against,but to say this is dirty or wrong is hypocrisy.a big part of people do it but we call it cheating then we don,t talk about it so we can point our finger.and then for the part of women who start screaming that this is wrong and against women equality bla bla ,but a big part of you don,t mind looking for a man in a bar when your husband is out of town for work or a job ,oh before you start screaming i have a beuatiful monogamous marriage
ghanaholland1 4 months ago
Id tap Laura. :)
animalshirts 4 months ago
@MyLifeIsInHime so true! society is retarded in that it always lets its opinions get in the way of logic!
parisgala88 4 months ago
guy with the glasses is creepy.
MrJayra210 4 months ago
I'll support polygamous marriages once I can have several husbands.
HelloCaille 4 months ago
So legalizing polygamy would not change any moral piousness of relationships compared to what we have now, other than adding the word marriage to the mix. Swinging is legal, adultery is legal (or NOT criminal in other words), 3somes are legal, etc. If you want to clean that up then making adultery and swinging illegal would be the objective rather than banning those who'd want to practice poly out of love and raising a family.
PolyPride3 4 months ago
Belgian,
That would most likely depend on who's practicing polygamy and for what reasons. Some do believe it's possible to be in love with more than one person. Some don't and just want to have different parnters. Although, in polygamy, it's not like swinging if you remain with the SAME 2 or 3 wives/husbands for many years compared to those who bring in a new wife every 3 months or who adds another sexual partner every week or so.
PolyPride3 4 months ago
Trying to walk the line between pious polygamist and swingin' 70's lifestyle is not going to work.
BelgianBicyclist 4 months ago
I'm against banning ALL polygamy because polygamy does not have to involve religion, does not have to involve having lots of kids, does not have to involve welfare esp. welfare fraud, does not have to involve marrying off young kids or FORCED marriages. These are all stereotypes and even in teh families they do apply for, you break up the families and they'll still be on welfare. Nothing fixed! A broken marriage is WORSE than a shared marriage as one other person put it.
PolyPride3 4 months ago
Here's a thought, why not punish ONLY those who do wrong rather than punishing ALL polygamists? Although, I think having TOO MANY kids and not having EVERY SPOUSE (not just the husband) work is also a problem. In those OLD STYLE poly families, ALL wives need to also work just as those in progressive polygamous families do.
PolyPride3 4 months ago
what happen to all my dads?
richardb2837 4 months ago
03:00
That's fucking stupid. Being born in whatever family wasn't this guy's choice, the same goes for everyone: they can't choose their parents.
Cleric775 4 months ago
@MyLifeIsInHime The Muslims are just like the FLDS... they use the same tactics. Isolation, brainwashing, fear of outsiders, threat of losing family & possessions for deviating or leaving... Your logic is very distorted and I suggest you begin to educate yourself in an objective environment.
MsPollywogg 4 months ago
@MyLifeIsInHime You cannot compare the two. Gay marriage is about two equal partners sharing the responsibilities of life. Polygamy (or more accurately it's polygyny, many women) is patriarchy at it's most extreme, giving one man dominion over many women. It is about control.
MrsPoodle78 4 months ago
it is a strange way of living i totally agree, but NO BODY HAS THE RIGHT to criticize them,only GOD can judge people on judgement day at least if the man wants another wife, the children from the first marriage, still live with there father, because hes not gonna leave, even if he bring another wife home, in this world there are alot of broken marriages now, and now everyone thinks that is the norm! at least polygamy isn't a broken marriage but a shared one, and the kids are still a family.
sarah5574 4 months ago
@sarah5574 Tell that to the children who are raped and molested... tell that to all the tax payers who are paying for them to eat and paying for their healthcare because the one's in Colorado City have taken in millions of dollars in welfare benefits. Yes, they will be judged by God, but God will judge those who offer no assistance as well. I don't want my taxes supporting a brainwashed group that will do what is commanded of them... polygamy is illegal. And these people exemplify why.
MsPollywogg 4 months ago
Just DISGUSTING. Sick.
1Bushibu 4 months ago
3 or 4 hot wives like Laura would be cool...but usually they wind up with 10 battleaxes
toddmastria1 5 months ago
@MyLifeIsInHime Homsexual unions cannot result in globally unsustainable amounts of children. Therein lies a chief issue with polygamy.
hmoorencs15 5 months ago
It wouldn't be my choice to be a poligimist but, if they are grown adults I think they should be free to make their own choices, being awared that they don't have to be poligimst. I don't however, agree with the whole Warren Jeffs situation type stuff.
Lucailey 5 months ago
@Lucailey They are not grown adults making their own decision. They are brainwashed from birth. They are not allowed to make any kind of decision for themselves ... they are taught to obey. The molestation and rape is widespread in this community. The mothers just think that that's the way men are. When a brother molests a child, it's just what boys do. This is eg. was from "Many Wives: Vow of Silence"
MsPollywogg 4 months ago 9
@MsPollywogg
well put it this way: There are 3 single men and 3 single women, all 3 women are very very sexy & beautiful.
BUT:
The 3 men are A) one is very fat and ugly, B) one is very short and skinny, and C) the third guy is 6 foot tall very handsome man, strong build, and has a big penis. To make things a bit equal: they all have one thing in common, each is a millionaire.
Tell me, which ONE out of the 3 men would each of the 3 women chooose? answer is POLYGAMY with C.
PurePower025 3 months ago