@Rpl5555 From France. He should moove his left foot after the ball touches the ground, then there won't be a travelling. That's a very basis, man. Maybe in Poland you are allowed to take a walk with the ball in your pocket. But the spinning move is badass; and allowed btw.
Can somebody please tell me is this tavelling? I know in Europe it is cuz after pivoting with left foot he goes to the right and then jumpes. But is it travelling in NBA? I know in NBA reffs let players to do milion and a half steps...But is is travelling by rules?
@rocky12rullshard Its not traveling because Kobe is still dribbling the ball when he stops on his left foot, so he didn't take any steps when he pivots around on his left and jumps off his right foot. He doesn't jump off his left, but only the right. Even if Kobe didn't technically dribble while stopping on the left foot, it would still only be 2 steps (not sure about the this part).
I think he's travelling at the very beginning of the moove because the ball touch the ground whereas his left foot has to be on the ground but it is not. So it is a traveling guys
his been using many pumfake and no travel were called.. even on buzzer beaters he sometimes use pumpfake just like he does to Ray allen but no travelling were called...NO TRAVELING..Lebron TRAVELLING
btw i 2x checked and its not a travel cuz when he did the pivot and spinning his other foot didnt go in the air and when he did, the ball was already in the air to the rim so i u noobs get ur facts right before jusdging cuz u wont last a second when ur faced against him
Sorry to interrupt but since you mentioned "facts" and "2X checked" I'll have to argue against you.
In textbook, this is a travel since when he jumps, he lifts his pivot earlier than the other foot (plz pause at0:45). In real games, this is mostly not a travel since bare eyes wont be fast enough to notice it most of the time.
It's hard to jump off both feet at the same time since this is a forward jump, but Kobe did it too smoothly to be noticed. Slower pple wont fare too well with this.
well by the time he held the ball with his 2 hands, he only stepped 2 times and then he jumps.
it doesnt matter if either both feet should be up at the same time or one foot jumps before the other one becaause if you look closer at :45, he only stepped 2 times and jumped after the 2nd step at end of his turn/spin.
I don't get what you meant by "stepped 2 times". He already catches the ball when pump fakes, so when he spins he established his left pivot, his right foot is in the air. When his right foot lands after the spin, his left foot is still the pivot. He jumps, lifting his left first but the ball is not released. Imagine someone does it very slowly.
In textbook, it wont be travel if pivot hasnt been established when he does the spin, which isnt the case here as he pump faked before.
I agree with you they would not release a signature move if it violates a rule even theoretically. That's why I want to be convinced where I was wrong.
If kobe didnt do pump fake, if instead he just catches the ball with both hands during the spin, then it will be no travel definitely since his pivot will be his right foot established after the spin. It's not the case here. Both foot being up at the same time matter here.
Thx, it's rare to find someone willing to convince me.
all of yall that can bitching about him traveling, u do realize that Kobe does these moves every game, and how many travels does he average? like 1 every 3-4 games? that shows it's so small that the refs either can't notice it at game speed or that they let it go because of its insignificance. Instead of picking on these mini details, why don't u guys just accept that he is the best offensive guard in the league?
thats a sick move, so basic!! i woulda never thought of that lol!
in this video, it was a travel because he stopped, pumpfaked, pivoted, then stepped onto his other foot which resulted in him lifting his pivot foot and then shot.. but its so minor that wouldnt get called, and if you jump off of both feet at the same time, it would be fine
its a travel only cuz his pivot foot left the ground wen his other foot was planted...but i gurantee game speed timing will look perfect n no1 will ever notice..unlike lebrons obvious walks
lol @ u guys that say learn the game it's not a travel he didn't take 3 steps.. Keobe is the best but thats a travel. Once u dribble and then give it up and pivot. it doesn't matter, u cant come off that pivot. he pivots with the left foot(see at 34secs) he then spins and release left foot, take step with right(44secs) = TRAVELING.. Move looks crazy as hell though but the right call is traveling
Only time u can come off ya PIVOT once u have used ya dribble, is jumpshot or passing the rock. Other than that u stuck on that PIVOT. Dont believe me, ask one of ya buddies that play basketball or google it
a. A player who receives the ball while standing still may pivot, using either foot as the pivot foot.
g. If a player, with the ball in his possession, raises his pivot foot off the floor, he must pass or shoot before his pivot foot returns to the floor. If he drops the ball while in the air, he may not be the first to touch the ball.
(a) <- doesn't even count as a step since you recieve the ball standing on your two feet. You can pivot all you want and then dribble. and your second argument.
agree with everything u just said. As u can clearly see on the VIDEO. Kobe took hard dribble, PIVOTS on left leg (watch from 29-34) Pump fakes gets the guy in the AIR, spins on his PIVOT, he's still good, but at the end, he gets off the Left (pivot leg) switches to the right to get the shot off (41-46) Move so crazy, it looks great but it is a travel. Im the ref i'm not calling it neither. great move but TRAVELING
Yup, its a travel, being that he switched pivots foot to get the shot, in this video it's a travel but I have seen kope pull this off with out a travel, usually when he doesnt lean in for the shot.
once you release the ball, you can take off your pivot foot. that too was what jordan said. look at how he release the ball before he lift his pivot foot. the ball doesnt have to reach the floor before you lift your pivot foot. that is not a travel.
Please pause at 0:45, the ball is still in his hand when he lift his pivot. It's hard to jump off both feet at the same time since you wont jump forward as high. In textbook this is a travel; practically it's mostly not, and we only care about real game situations, not theory. In that regards, I agree with you, it's not a travel.
lol that aint a fuckin travel. kitanik if u know the game u know that travel is more than three steps and u just said after 2 steps he dribbled so it doesnt count as a travel.
he first jab steps, and then goes to the side without putting the ball on the floor. so that counts as 1, 2 step and then puts the ball down and that's a travel. it should be one step(in this case, a jab step) and ball down. or 1 step and the ball down at the same time the other step comes. kobe didn't do either of these things
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FAIL! That's clearly traveling, he takes his pivot foot off, ant jumps with his other foot! Only way to make it right is to jump with both feet at the same time !
there's always some smartass who thinks everythings a fucking travel
gerardrocks1 2 months ago 5
The pivots not all that necessary I think he coulda shot right after the second fake
RemarkabIe 5 months ago
traveling? wtf? this isn't a lebron vid
CyraxBattle 5 months ago
It's not traveling, it's called a rocket-step
mylif3styl3 7 months ago
i used to call it a punk fake lol :/
littlemissdessy 8 months ago
Clearly not a travel.
francisParagdon 8 months ago
the travel u're talking is 2 1/2 half, it's a skill, learn ur basketball and stfu
SgLakers 9 months ago
I was talckin about Kimberly young 33167
hassankamara 10 months ago
ShiT Kimberly young
hassankamara 10 months ago
can people shut up with the travel ??? travel your ass out this page
DrzPapi126 10 months ago
Travelling between the jab step and the drive !
SuperKoinKoin 1 year ago 2
@SuperKoinKoin where u idiot?
Rpl5555 10 months ago
@Rpl5555 From France. He should moove his left foot after the ball touches the ground, then there won't be a travelling. That's a very basis, man. Maybe in Poland you are allowed to take a walk with the ball in your pocket. But the spinning move is badass; and allowed btw.
SuperKoinKoin 10 months ago
lol he burning out all his trick or what
password34 1 year ago
damn this vids are awesome...gotta try some of these stuff< might kill myself trying but its damn worth it
Grady05 1 year ago
its not traveling ur nerds lol... this is called a oooo man move where i play.
dribble pumpfake spin shoot...
its the same as dribbling then stoping and then lookingand then shooting....
instead of looking around kobe spun on pivot foot and shot...
but this move too fast for u nerds to understand and or replica
MrLockess 1 year ago
Can somebody please tell me is this tavelling? I know in Europe it is cuz after pivoting with left foot he goes to the right and then jumpes. But is it travelling in NBA? I know in NBA reffs let players to do milion and a half steps...But is is travelling by rules?
rocky12rullshard 1 year ago
@rocky12rullshard Its not traveling because Kobe is still dribbling the ball when he stops on his left foot, so he didn't take any steps when he pivots around on his left and jumps off his right foot. He doesn't jump off his left, but only the right. Even if Kobe didn't technically dribble while stopping on the left foot, it would still only be 2 steps (not sure about the this part).
Lightodyssey 1 year ago
@rocky12rullshard it's not travelling in europe, i'm from poland and that's not true
Rpl5555 10 months ago
@Rpl5555 hahah im from poland to from warsaw
BenTofil 10 months ago
@BenTofil to na chuj piszesz po angielsku :D
Rpl5555 10 months ago
I think he's travelling at the very beginning of the moove because the ball touch the ground whereas his left foot has to be on the ground but it is not. So it is a traveling guys
SuperKoinKoin 1 year ago
damm!!!!!
KIMBERLYUNG 1 year ago
I don't care if it's a travel or not, as long as I don't get called it's all good.
illlanoize23 1 year ago
steps
blindybass 1 year ago
i find it quite diff to control the pump fake....and kobe does it sooo smoothly and beautifully.
whats the track..its hot lol
dtamyf 1 year ago
this song is so hottttt
mhannau 1 year ago
Kobe Style (:
andreewwwwwwww 1 year ago
his been using many pumfake and no travel were called.. even on buzzer beaters he sometimes use pumpfake just like he does to Ray allen but no travelling were called...NO TRAVELING..Lebron TRAVELLING
chaadaaa 1 year ago
FIBA Article 25.22
Or
NBA rule 10 sect XIV g
If the pivot foot is lift off the ground, provided you don't land with that foot before you release the ball (pass or shoot), it is not a travel.
To people unfamiliar with basketball, please visit FIBA and NBA rule site
To people unfamiliar with NBA, please visit NBA rule site and watch some games
To people watching NBA, think they know the rules, go and fucking read the NBA rules before you write here
these rules were published in 2001 ffs
CastorFrost 1 year ago
btw i 2x checked and its not a travel cuz when he did the pivot and spinning his other foot didnt go in the air and when he did, the ball was already in the air to the rim so i u noobs get ur facts right before jusdging cuz u wont last a second when ur faced against him
kevinzki21 2 years ago
Sorry to interrupt but since you mentioned "facts" and "2X checked" I'll have to argue against you.
In textbook, this is a travel since when he jumps, he lifts his pivot earlier than the other foot (plz pause at0:45). In real games, this is mostly not a travel since bare eyes wont be fast enough to notice it most of the time.
It's hard to jump off both feet at the same time since this is a forward jump, but Kobe did it too smoothly to be noticed. Slower pple wont fare too well with this.
nanablvd 2 years ago
well by the time he held the ball with his 2 hands, he only stepped 2 times and then he jumps.
it doesnt matter if either both feet should be up at the same time or one foot jumps before the other one becaause if you look closer at :45, he only stepped 2 times and jumped after the 2nd step at end of his turn/spin.
therefore it's not travel.
kevinzki21 2 years ago
but if he stepped another one time to get in a better position to shoot, then it'z travel.
And besides why the hell would they release a signature move that violates a rule?
and besides this has been practiced a million times to make sure theres no mess ups.
otherwise, why did they release this in the first place? major critics should have attacked this a long time ago, which they didnt
kevinzki21 2 years ago
I don't get what you meant by "stepped 2 times". He already catches the ball when pump fakes, so when he spins he established his left pivot, his right foot is in the air. When his right foot lands after the spin, his left foot is still the pivot. He jumps, lifting his left first but the ball is not released. Imagine someone does it very slowly.
In textbook, it wont be travel if pivot hasnt been established when he does the spin, which isnt the case here as he pump faked before.
nanablvd 2 years ago
I agree with you they would not release a signature move if it violates a rule even theoretically. That's why I want to be convinced where I was wrong.
If kobe didnt do pump fake, if instead he just catches the ball with both hands during the spin, then it will be no travel definitely since his pivot will be his right foot established after the spin. It's not the case here. Both foot being up at the same time matter here.
Thx, it's rare to find someone willing to convince me.
nanablvd 2 years ago
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kevinzki21 2 years ago
i dont consider it a travel since he jumped
remspercy 2 years ago
all of yall that can bitching about him traveling, u do realize that Kobe does these moves every game, and how many travels does he average? like 1 every 3-4 games? that shows it's so small that the refs either can't notice it at game speed or that they let it go because of its insignificance. Instead of picking on these mini details, why don't u guys just accept that he is the best offensive guard in the league?
gngstazn 2 years ago 2
not traveling period
LewisSoTranscendent 2 years ago 22
@LewisSoTranscendent its not. learn the sport
xxSchmidty1528xx 1 year ago
thats a sick move, so basic!! i woulda never thought of that lol!
in this video, it was a travel because he stopped, pumpfaked, pivoted, then stepped onto his other foot which resulted in him lifting his pivot foot and then shot.. but its so minor that wouldnt get called, and if you jump off of both feet at the same time, it would be fine
tommoo25 2 years ago
@tommoo25
No, no, no. He can lift that pivot foot provided he release the ball before that pivot foot LANDS on the floor again.
FIBA rule 25 article 25.2.2. and NBA rule 10 sect XIV g, go read those.
These rules were published in 2001.
It is not minor traveling, it is NOT a travel.
L pivot, spin around, Step R, lift L, LAND L then shot, travel
L pivot, spin around, STEP R, TAP DANCE WITH R, lift L, pick your nose, shot, LAND L: no travel.
CastorFrost 1 year ago
It's a travel cuz his pivot foot left the ground before the other one. If you would jump off both it's fine
qyxzz 2 years ago
@qyxzz
FIBA rule 5 article 25.2.2 or NBA rule 10 sect XIV g,
pivot foot can be lifted off the ground provided you release the ball before that pivot foot makes contact with the floor again.
CastorFrost 1 year ago
it's not a travel?
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@acethejellyace
FIBA rule 5 article 25.2.2 or NBA rule 10 sect XIV g,
pivot foot can be lifted off the ground provided you release the ball before that pivot foot makes contact with the floor again.
CastorFrost 1 year ago
its a travel only cuz his pivot foot left the ground wen his other foot was planted...but i gurantee game speed timing will look perfect n no1 will ever notice..unlike lebrons obvious walks
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@shomuff40
FIBA rule 5 article 25.2.2 or NBA rule 10 sect XIV g,
pivot foot can be lifted off the ground provided you release the ball before that pivot foot makes contact with the floor again.
PS: lebron should read more
CastorFrost 1 year ago
@shomuff40 not a travel. The full feet must not lift off the ground. He is tip toe-ing if I can put it that way.
ENMAnumber1 2 months ago
lol @ u guys that say learn the game it's not a travel he didn't take 3 steps.. Keobe is the best but thats a travel. Once u dribble and then give it up and pivot. it doesn't matter, u cant come off that pivot. he pivots with the left foot(see at 34secs) he then spins and release left foot, take step with right(44secs) = TRAVELING.. Move looks crazy as hell though but the right call is traveling
tharock5119 2 years ago
... dude. what are you talking about.... you can come off a pivot anytime. you just cant put it back on the floor....
skilzunlimitedpr 2 years ago
Only time u can come off ya PIVOT once u have used ya dribble, is jumpshot or passing the rock. Other than that u stuck on that PIVOT. Dont believe me, ask one of ya buddies that play basketball or google it
tharock5119 2 years ago
a. A player who receives the ball while standing still may pivot, using either foot as the pivot foot.
g. If a player, with the ball in his possession, raises his pivot foot off the floor, he must pass or shoot before his pivot foot returns to the floor. If he drops the ball while in the air, he may not be the first to touch the ball.
(a) <- doesn't even count as a step since you recieve the ball standing on your two feet. You can pivot all you want and then dribble. and your second argument.
skilzunlimitedpr 2 years ago
agree with everything u just said. As u can clearly see on the VIDEO. Kobe took hard dribble, PIVOTS on left leg (watch from 29-34) Pump fakes gets the guy in the AIR, spins on his PIVOT, he's still good, but at the end, he gets off the Left (pivot leg) switches to the right to get the shot off (41-46) Move so crazy, it looks great but it is a travel. Im the ref i'm not calling it neither. great move but TRAVELING
tharock5119 2 years ago
Yup, its a travel, being that he switched pivots foot to get the shot, in this video it's a travel but I have seen kope pull this off with out a travel, usually when he doesnt lean in for the shot.
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@jllucero1
FIBA rule 5 article 25.2.2 or NBA rule 10 sect XIV g,
pivot foot can be lifted off the ground provided you release the ball before that pivot foot makes contact with the floor again.
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@tharock5119
FIBA rule 5 article 25.2.2 or NBA rule 10 sect XIV g,
pivot foot can be lifted off the ground provided you release the ball before that pivot foot makes contact with the floor again.
Glad you're are not refereeing.
CastorFrost 1 year ago
@skilzunlimitedpr
FINALLYYYYYY
someone who actually reads the fucking rules before writing shit here.
EVEN FIBA has that rule as well
CastorFrost 1 year ago
you can pivot and jump afterwards, it's not a travel.
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@tharock5119
FIBA rule 5 article 25.2.2 or NBA rule 10 sect XIV g,
pivot foot can be lifted off the ground provided you release the ball before that pivot foot makes contact with the floor again.
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tekknking 2 years ago
that's right.
sakeporo 2 years ago
once you release the ball, you can take off your pivot foot. that too was what jordan said. look at how he release the ball before he lift his pivot foot. the ball doesnt have to reach the floor before you lift your pivot foot. that is not a travel.
rizenbull 2 years ago
Naa he lifted it first. As I said, if youd jump off both it would be legal
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FIBA rule 5 article 25.2.2 or NBA rule 10 sect XIV g,
pivot foot can be lifted off the ground provided you release the ball before that pivot foot makes contact with the floor again.
CastorFrost 1 year ago
Please pause at 0:45, the ball is still in his hand when he lift his pivot. It's hard to jump off both feet at the same time since you wont jump forward as high. In textbook this is a travel; practically it's mostly not, and we only care about real game situations, not theory. In that regards, I agree with you, it's not a travel.
nanablvd 2 years ago
people wont call stuff like that unless its a blatant travel
ousseynoundy 2 years ago
@ousseynoundy
It is not stuff like that, it is OTHER stuff that is not that.
CastorFrost 1 year ago
its was actually a total of 6 moves because he pumped faked twice
pradakiid08 2 years ago
sick video nice!
tanuman54 2 years ago
these are all jordan moves, especially the pivot part
nashMVP 2 years ago
its not a travel a 0:28 his left foot doesnt come of the ground when he does his jab step then he just uses his right to pivot
1andonlynathan 2 years ago
to the people who think this is travel you are thick as shit.he pulls up and then pivots on his pivot foot.
benjy289 2 years ago
that's the sweetest thing i've ever seen.. ballet
kingcarlo9 3 years ago
actually i meant to say more than 2 steps.
JustLikeMike23 3 years ago
lol that aint a fuckin travel. kitanik if u know the game u know that travel is more than three steps and u just said after 2 steps he dribbled so it doesnt count as a travel.
JustLikeMike23 3 years ago 2
its not a travel dummys dont yall know the game...he did this same move when he had 61 vs the knicks...look at the highlights....know the game
nikeking33 3 years ago 2
he first jab steps, and then goes to the side without putting the ball on the floor. so that counts as 1, 2 step and then puts the ball down and that's a travel. it should be one step(in this case, a jab step) and ball down. or 1 step and the ball down at the same time the other step comes. kobe didn't do either of these things
kitanik3 3 years ago
too bad he travelled. again
kitanik3 3 years ago
yes it's a travel, every single ref doesn't think so but you know better.
just.. stop. =P
swingingfordearlife 3 years ago
of course they ain't gonna call it...that would destroy the game, same goes for lebron
kitanik3 3 years ago
not a travel
iSmith024 3 years ago 2
yes it is...at 0:28
kitanik3 3 years ago
not even, explain how its a travel
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@kitanik3
FIBA rule 5 article 25.2.2 or NBA rule 10 sect XIV g,
pivot foot can be lifted off the ground provided you release the ball before that pivot foot makes contact with the floor again.
CastorFrost 1 year ago
omg..tis wil become another porpular skill..jz like kareem....a master!!!
rayallen323 3 years ago
kobe tha best right now aint no one even close
vilito36 3 years ago
Lebron is better this year
PTB709 3 years ago
oh kobe was the next MJ........ he will be a back 2 back MVP.......oh thats a pretty move even the best defensive can't guard that move......
BlackNerva 3 years ago
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FAIL! That's clearly traveling, he takes his pivot foot off, ant jumps with his other foot! Only way to make it right is to jump with both feet at the same time !
munkisbeprotis 3 years ago
wow this is awsome. kobe rocks.
fifteendollarbill 3 years ago 19
fucking sick o my
knitet1 3 years ago