Thank you for your ability to stand up for freedom. I strongly recommend watching: "money as debt", freedom to fascism", "ring of power", "911 mysteries", "money masters", "viberation creates form", "Martin Brofman - when the healing happens", "behold a pale horse", "2012 enigma", "esoteric agenda", "anthrax war", "endgame", "Jim Marrs the 4th reich", "american drug war americas last white hope", "the polarity matrix field"....
I'm not going to mix 911 and Global warming in there, because these are concrete ideas, and warrant their own debate. However with Atheism... the validity of not being convinced by religious dogma (which is what atheism is) gets called into question ALL THE TIME in our society. And its appeal is not in the format of the message, but in the simple fact that religious dogma makes no sense.
You seem like an educated man, so I'm sure you've heard of the Rhetorical Triangle. From what I've researched modern Atheism, 9/11, and even Global Warming are supported and widely believed because of the "Ethos" appeal of those in power. Logos is rarely called into question and supported with loose facts.
wait a second... a congressman told you everything's cool, and you're like - "good enough for me!" ??? i think a lot of alex jones is unintentional disinformation, so we should be skeptical, but come on... isn't this WHOLE THING about how the gov lies?
First off...the congressman I am referring to is a STATE congressman so I find it hard to believe that the NWO can handle ALL of the congressman in every state...that would be just a bad idea because I don't believe that every man/woman in every branch could be involved..there would be big leaks to the media. Also this particular congressman spoke at my church a couple of times and I actually met them and they seem to be a good person, a christian person...
...Also I believe that the congressman actually cared about my concern with this issue because they took the time to write a lengthy letter in response. So there is no doubt that the elite and officials in all levels are involved but like I said i don't believe every person is involved...we shouldn't put a gun to there head just because they work in a state government office.
...one more thing, the issue of mandatory vaccinations is an issue that has been brought up by all types of media, there is nothing "secret" or "conspiracy" about it so the congressman would have no reason to lie to me and say that they have not seen, or voted against such legislation because that type of information in this issue would be public.
that's one of the problems with alex jones... he wants to open people's eyes to ways in which they're being controlled, and he himself hasn't yet woken up to the oldest conspiracy on the planet. and judging by your comments and your incredible naivete, neither are you.
All I see on your channel is one video of a band..so could you tell me what YOU are doing to help the "unaware" because unless you are going to pull a bill to ban the fed and pretect our constitutional rights out of your ass I suggest you shut up because at least I am doing SOMETHING, it my mean nothing, but when the world goes to hell at least I can say I tried...what can you say?
the reason you see a video of a band on my channel (and lots fo videos from that band) on my google channel, is because obviously that's my band. because i had a life before 911 and my life wouldn't be totally empty if 911 never happened... like some people... see i'm not ALL ABOUT the 911 events, i actually paid attention to world events prior to 911, and know about a much broader range of current injustices, all much bigger than the 911 cover-up, i'm not as naive as you about the topic.
I never said that you were naive about 911. I am just saying that if you want to criticize my video of how I am trying to wake people up maybe you should show how ALL congressman in your area are lying thugs who are going to mass murder you since that was the original argument and 9/11 was never brought up. Oh and I have a life to beyond this, don't think for one second that I am on this thing 24/7
well seeing as that I can never convince you of God and you can never convince me that there is no God, we will have to see who is right in the end...but think about this, if I am wrong then according to you nothing will come of my soul in the afterlife, nothing happens to either of us, but if I am right then I will spend eternity in bliss while you...won't, if anything my "childish religion" is the best insurance policy ever.
the god myth. you should watch Zeitgeist. it's endorsed by and has a lot of footage from the Loose Change guys, and it debunks the god/christ myth thoroughly. you're welcome.
so am I to understand that because this congressman, and myself for that matter, believe in a higher power which teaches of the righteous path, to be kind, help others, and spread love that he would lie to me about legislation on mandatory vaccinations and check a big YES in the box thats says "eugenics" that is by far the crappiest conspiracy I have ever heard.
oh and just because you atheists believe you can debunk GOD lets think about the fact that if there is a GOD do you really think humans who have major flaws like us can even fathom to understand him, therefore we can never debunk what we don't even have an inch of understanding.
"we atheists" believe that is childish and small-minded to believe in a god. your attempt at being philosophical is ridiculous... i'd have to read some books about psychology, eastern phylosophies, and neuroscience before you could even know how dumb you sound trying to wax poetic. at least go watch zeitgest, then we can try to have this conversation.. .otherwise we're done here. kthxbai
Funny you bring up the movie ZEITGEIST, I just posted a review of it. ZEITGEIST is not about saying there is no God it's just trying to teach how religion is a system of control. It does however say that Jesus is not real but I am not sold on that. We all have our own way of thinking but for you to say that it is childish and small-minded to believe in a God, that's messed up. Because someone does not see it the way you do they are childish and small-minded?
it's not messed up to say that, it's the absolute truth. belief in the face of overwhelming evidence of contrary is small-minded, and the NEED to believe in a higher power is childish. And, no Zeitgeist doesn't say that there is no god, but it does show (yet again) that every evidenciary artifact indicating the existance of god has been complete bs. now go away please, i'm done wasting my time on sun-worshipers. real spirituality has nothing to do with worship or creation myths. go meditate.
Now go away? I'm done wasting my time on sun-worshipers.? LOL I didn't force you to respond. It's clear you are just a trouble maker. And I love how if someone does not agree with you they are small-minded and childish. It's sad that you judge people in this way. None of us have any way of knowing the truth and for you to call people names because they believe different than you? You are a head case LOL!
woa woa woa... let's not get confused here... i'm not calling you small-minded and childish because of a simple difference of opinion.. we can disagree on any number of issues, and as long as you can rationally defend your position, i can respect it without having to agree with you. this is not the case here your belief is based on a basic psychological need to feel that everything is going to be ok, and you can't see that. THAT is small-minded and childish. THAT is why there can be no debate.
LOL Ok man how about you make a video of your own and send it to me telling me the way you see things. Unless you are too much of a coward to get in front of the cam? Otherwise good day!
marliz012, I am very sorry to have this fight on your channel, you are doing a great job! Keep it up.
One more thing, small-minded??? I am open to anything. I would not call you names and put you down because I don't believe the same as you. Talk about being small-minded.
i've said everything i'm going to say to you. for debates between atheists and believers, youtube "christopher hitchens atheist debates". Now I don't know how much more clear I can make this - have some diginity and go away.
I honestly don't care if people have debates on my videos, I like to see all comments, it gives me an insight to both sides of an issue. I watched zeitgeist and I am still a believer, PRIMEx420 approached me in a civil manner after our little debate on this video and I watched his suggested video. I appreciate your advice and support MaKaElectric as well. Just say this so everyone is clear that I welcome any suggestions to any opposing ideas or theories. :)
I am getting people leaving me stupid comments as well, and it's always someone who has no videos of their own talking about any subject. Some people just want to start trouble and this guy seems to be one of them. Just look at the comments on his channel.
i love how the premier qualifier for credibility is downloading other people's work and re-posting it. i love how people post a video and sit back, arms folded, satisfied that they made a difference. posting videos on youtube is the lowest form of activism. i've lived through KGB raids and random secret police arrests, helping soviet dissidents cross the border into Finland during the full swing of the cold war. You have no idea what it means to fight "the man". kindly eat that dick in silence.
Relax man, she's just a kid trying to make something happen. Us Americans have been so conditioned to lethargy that I myself find it difficult to be involved in these make-shift politics. In short, I commend what you've done during the Cold War, I'm sure your efforts have freed many a person from the blades of Secret Police, but don't hate on this girl for not being able to achieve the same standard, at least she is doing SOMETHING, which is more that most of the world can say.
I understand what you're saying, but you've misunderstood. If you want, go back and read everything I've posted here, and you'll find a long exhange of posts where a couple of people (the "kid" included) repeatedly challenged me with the fact that they have so many videos up, and how dare I say anything, since I've only posted one video,and it's of my band. After that my last post should make a bit more sense.
good job. i can understand where you are coming from when it comes to friends believing u. glad u are at work. i want to get a walk/march to washington together. thought we could carry R.I.P. America signs and dress in black. well great job marliz.
About video project you are working on. Have you tried keepvid(dot)com? you can download videos in flv and mp4 formats. Put the utube url into their search, and u get 2 links for flv and mp4. Or you can put a special tab on your browser (info at top of their page), so while you are viewing a utube video, you click on the tab and it takes you directly to kv with the links on the page to download the video. One of those methods should work for you. Download the mp4 vids, higher quality!
well done Hannah, excellent work, much respect. Getting into a bit of an argument... to be expected, info like that can be extremely scary for people and their instant response is to lash out with some anger that it can't be true and it goes onto the person who told them.
Thank you for your ability to stand up for freedom. I strongly recommend watching: "money as debt", freedom to fascism", "ring of power", "911 mysteries", "money masters", "viberation creates form", "Martin Brofman - when the healing happens", "behold a pale horse", "2012 enigma", "esoteric agenda", "anthrax war", "endgame", "Jim Marrs the 4th reich", "american drug war americas last white hope", "the polarity matrix field"....
TruthSmack 2 years ago
I'm not going to mix 911 and Global warming in there, because these are concrete ideas, and warrant their own debate. However with Atheism... the validity of not being convinced by religious dogma (which is what atheism is) gets called into question ALL THE TIME in our society. And its appeal is not in the format of the message, but in the simple fact that religious dogma makes no sense.
PRIMEx420 2 years ago
You seem like an educated man, so I'm sure you've heard of the Rhetorical Triangle. From what I've researched modern Atheism, 9/11, and even Global Warming are supported and widely believed because of the "Ethos" appeal of those in power. Logos is rarely called into question and supported with loose facts.
chaoscontrot 2 years ago
wait a second... a congressman told you everything's cool, and you're like - "good enough for me!" ??? i think a lot of alex jones is unintentional disinformation, so we should be skeptical, but come on... isn't this WHOLE THING about how the gov lies?
PRIMEx420 2 years ago
First off...the congressman I am referring to is a STATE congressman so I find it hard to believe that the NWO can handle ALL of the congressman in every state...that would be just a bad idea because I don't believe that every man/woman in every branch could be involved..there would be big leaks to the media. Also this particular congressman spoke at my church a couple of times and I actually met them and they seem to be a good person, a christian person...
marliz012 2 years ago
...Also I believe that the congressman actually cared about my concern with this issue because they took the time to write a lengthy letter in response. So there is no doubt that the elite and officials in all levels are involved but like I said i don't believe every person is involved...we shouldn't put a gun to there head just because they work in a state government office.
marliz012 2 years ago
...one more thing, the issue of mandatory vaccinations is an issue that has been brought up by all types of media, there is nothing "secret" or "conspiracy" about it so the congressman would have no reason to lie to me and say that they have not seen, or voted against such legislation because that type of information in this issue would be public.
marliz012 2 years ago
that's one of the problems with alex jones... he wants to open people's eyes to ways in which they're being controlled, and he himself hasn't yet woken up to the oldest conspiracy on the planet. and judging by your comments and your incredible naivete, neither are you.
PRIMEx420 2 years ago
I'm sorry, could you explain this oldest conspiracy that I am apparently "Haven't woken up to"?
marliz012 2 years ago
All I see on your channel is one video of a band..so could you tell me what YOU are doing to help the "unaware" because unless you are going to pull a bill to ban the fed and pretect our constitutional rights out of your ass I suggest you shut up because at least I am doing SOMETHING, it my mean nothing, but when the world goes to hell at least I can say I tried...what can you say?
marliz012 2 years ago
the reason you see a video of a band on my channel (and lots fo videos from that band) on my google channel, is because obviously that's my band. because i had a life before 911 and my life wouldn't be totally empty if 911 never happened... like some people... see i'm not ALL ABOUT the 911 events, i actually paid attention to world events prior to 911, and know about a much broader range of current injustices, all much bigger than the 911 cover-up, i'm not as naive as you about the topic.
PRIMEx420 2 years ago
I never said that you were naive about 911. I am just saying that if you want to criticize my video of how I am trying to wake people up maybe you should show how ALL congressman in your area are lying thugs who are going to mass murder you since that was the original argument and 9/11 was never brought up. Oh and I have a life to beyond this, don't think for one second that I am on this thing 24/7
marliz012 2 years ago
read what i said again. this time use the open eye.
PRIMEx420 2 years ago
well seeing as that I can never convince you of God and you can never convince me that there is no God, we will have to see who is right in the end...but think about this, if I am wrong then according to you nothing will come of my soul in the afterlife, nothing happens to either of us, but if I am right then I will spend eternity in bliss while you...won't, if anything my "childish religion" is the best insurance policy ever.
marliz012 2 years ago
the god myth. you should watch Zeitgeist. it's endorsed by and has a lot of footage from the Loose Change guys, and it debunks the god/christ myth thoroughly. you're welcome.
PRIMEx420 2 years ago
so am I to understand that because this congressman, and myself for that matter, believe in a higher power which teaches of the righteous path, to be kind, help others, and spread love that he would lie to me about legislation on mandatory vaccinations and check a big YES in the box thats says "eugenics" that is by far the crappiest conspiracy I have ever heard.
marliz012 2 years ago
oh and just because you atheists believe you can debunk GOD lets think about the fact that if there is a GOD do you really think humans who have major flaws like us can even fathom to understand him, therefore we can never debunk what we don't even have an inch of understanding.
marliz012 2 years ago
"we atheists" believe that is childish and small-minded to believe in a god. your attempt at being philosophical is ridiculous... i'd have to read some books about psychology, eastern phylosophies, and neuroscience before you could even know how dumb you sound trying to wax poetic. at least go watch zeitgest, then we can try to have this conversation.. .otherwise we're done here. kthxbai
PRIMEx420 2 years ago
Funny you bring up the movie ZEITGEIST, I just posted a review of it. ZEITGEIST is not about saying there is no God it's just trying to teach how religion is a system of control. It does however say that Jesus is not real but I am not sold on that. We all have our own way of thinking but for you to say that it is childish and small-minded to believe in a God, that's messed up. Because someone does not see it the way you do they are childish and small-minded?
MaKaElectric 2 years ago
it's not messed up to say that, it's the absolute truth. belief in the face of overwhelming evidence of contrary is small-minded, and the NEED to believe in a higher power is childish. And, no Zeitgeist doesn't say that there is no god, but it does show (yet again) that every evidenciary artifact indicating the existance of god has been complete bs. now go away please, i'm done wasting my time on sun-worshipers. real spirituality has nothing to do with worship or creation myths. go meditate.
PRIMEx420 2 years ago
Now go away? I'm done wasting my time on sun-worshipers.? LOL I didn't force you to respond. It's clear you are just a trouble maker. And I love how if someone does not agree with you they are small-minded and childish. It's sad that you judge people in this way. None of us have any way of knowing the truth and for you to call people names because they believe different than you? You are a head case LOL!
MaKaElectric 2 years ago
woa woa woa... let's not get confused here... i'm not calling you small-minded and childish because of a simple difference of opinion.. we can disagree on any number of issues, and as long as you can rationally defend your position, i can respect it without having to agree with you. this is not the case here your belief is based on a basic psychological need to feel that everything is going to be ok, and you can't see that. THAT is small-minded and childish. THAT is why there can be no debate.
PRIMEx420 2 years ago
LOL Ok man how about you make a video of your own and send it to me telling me the way you see things. Unless you are too much of a coward to get in front of the cam? Otherwise good day!
marliz012, I am very sorry to have this fight on your channel, you are doing a great job! Keep it up.
MaKaElectric 2 years ago
well, like i said - you know what's better than being a keyboard commando? anything.
PRIMEx420 2 years ago
One more thing, small-minded??? I am open to anything. I would not call you names and put you down because I don't believe the same as you. Talk about being small-minded.
MaKaElectric 2 years ago
i've said everything i'm going to say to you. for debates between atheists and believers, youtube "christopher hitchens atheist debates". Now I don't know how much more clear I can make this - have some diginity and go away.
PRIMEx420 2 years ago
I honestly don't care if people have debates on my videos, I like to see all comments, it gives me an insight to both sides of an issue. I watched zeitgeist and I am still a believer, PRIMEx420 approached me in a civil manner after our little debate on this video and I watched his suggested video. I appreciate your advice and support MaKaElectric as well. Just say this so everyone is clear that I welcome any suggestions to any opposing ideas or theories. :)
marliz012 2 years ago
I am getting people leaving me stupid comments as well, and it's always someone who has no videos of their own talking about any subject. Some people just want to start trouble and this guy seems to be one of them. Just look at the comments on his channel.
MaKaElectric 2 years ago
i love how the premier qualifier for credibility is downloading other people's work and re-posting it. i love how people post a video and sit back, arms folded, satisfied that they made a difference. posting videos on youtube is the lowest form of activism. i've lived through KGB raids and random secret police arrests, helping soviet dissidents cross the border into Finland during the full swing of the cold war. You have no idea what it means to fight "the man". kindly eat that dick in silence.
PRIMEx420 2 years ago
LOL You need to go check yourself in to a mental hospital.
God Bless!
MaKaElectric 2 years ago
Relax man, she's just a kid trying to make something happen. Us Americans have been so conditioned to lethargy that I myself find it difficult to be involved in these make-shift politics. In short, I commend what you've done during the Cold War, I'm sure your efforts have freed many a person from the blades of Secret Police, but don't hate on this girl for not being able to achieve the same standard, at least she is doing SOMETHING, which is more that most of the world can say.
chaoscontrot 2 years ago 2
I understand what you're saying, but you've misunderstood. If you want, go back and read everything I've posted here, and you'll find a long exhange of posts where a couple of people (the "kid" included) repeatedly challenged me with the fact that they have so many videos up, and how dare I say anything, since I've only posted one video,and it's of my band. After that my last post should make a bit more sense.
PRIMEx420 2 years ago
I'm on the East side of the state, if you want any help spreading fliers here on the East side, shoot me a message.
-Murph
murphy1285 2 years ago
Very good post...Thanks
Revgirl5 2 years ago
great vid, positive generates positive
shannonkden 2 years ago
good job. i can understand where you are coming from when it comes to friends believing u. glad u are at work. i want to get a walk/march to washington together. thought we could carry R.I.P. America signs and dress in black. well great job marliz.
mandyj6673 2 years ago
Awesome work, yeah tell everyone who will listen because it seems to be getting late in the game with all that is going on.
I don't know anything about Mac, I use the KeepVid website myself but there is also a program called TubeTilla that you might look into.
MaKaElectric 2 years ago
You are a strong person, it does not make life easier, but it is more fulfilling, love and peace,p
phnixlady 2 years ago
About video project you are working on. Have you tried keepvid(dot)com? you can download videos in flv and mp4 formats. Put the utube url into their search, and u get 2 links for flv and mp4. Or you can put a special tab on your browser (info at top of their page), so while you are viewing a utube video, you click on the tab and it takes you directly to kv with the links on the page to download the video. One of those methods should work for you. Download the mp4 vids, higher quality!
mysterizedoutcast 2 years ago
well done Hannah, excellent work, much respect. Getting into a bit of an argument... to be expected, info like that can be extremely scary for people and their instant response is to lash out with some anger that it can't be true and it goes onto the person who told them.
mysterizedoutcast 2 years ago
i posted some info on facebook but that site is not very intellectually open. maybe its just my friend idk. i just stick to youtube these days.
bnash2002 2 years ago
originated with FreedomVideoUSA
SimpleDan76 2 years ago
YOU ROCK!
StMin85 2 years ago 2
u rock marliz
1776phoenix 2 years ago 4