You are receiving hate comments because you are speaking so far above the capabilities of most of the viewers on You Tube. I listen to your every well spoken word, and you make perfect sense, and have the gift of interpretation of God's Word. Don't ever be discouraged because of principalities and powers.
I've seen a lot of your stuff, and you know yourself most arguments you hold are at best misunderstandings. But why do you think people are atheists to piss you or others off? It's just a lack of belief, why does it bother you so much?
Your lack of logic is hurting my brain.
Though, you are good at repeating yourself, I give you that.
The world is not in existence with logical sensibility. This is a logical construct by animals of different intellect to live in it. We evolved senses and brains to deal with it, not the other way around.
Mathematics is derived from the physical world, and that is how it's most commonly (and successfully) told in school. It's a way we use to describe the physical world.
I'm not a christian and I don't agree with this guy a lot, but this video is great. The comments from atheists are amazingly supportive of their own ignorance. Reason is good. Good job VenomFang.
Dude...if your intention is to convert....then it's not working infact....it's doing the exact opposite. Your ridiculous, one minded, viewpoint exposes your ignorance of truth. Good luck!
Mathematics didn't exist before the human mind. The concept of numbers is a human invention, apparently so complex that you oversimplify it as something that's always existed and that we discovered. That's completely wrong
Slightly elevated diction is a dangerous thing, boys and girls. This is, literally, the most unintelligible banter I've heard in a long time. Throwing around words like "teleological" and "immaterial" and imagining that you are using them in their applicable philosophical OR logical contexts, does not make your argument itself intelligible. I can't lie; I have ZERO idea what any of this meant -- period.
reason and mathematical principals are not laws. they are ideas created by man.
I've never understood why religious people set God in the place of ideas?
Just because you can't comprehent something, doesn't mean that it is supernatural. I mean, explain to me how oatmeal tastes? the only answer is oatmeal. The logical/reasonal explanation for this is certainly not that the flavour of oatmeal i created by god.
why isn't this guy in jail? didn't he like con loads of people into donating him money and saying he would give the proceeds to charity but then keeping it.
Amen brother! So many people come up with the most idiotic stories to mock and disglorify Jesus.I accually pitty them because they know in their hearts that jesus exsist. What makes it even worse is jesus loves us so much that he sent his only son to die for us but those people are so arrogant that they cant stand to admit their faults.I am so glad i am saved.GOD IS GOOD!!!!!!!!!
Holy shit he's getting good at talking. Regardless of how absurd his views are, the fact remains he's a much improved speaker, his tone and pace already sounds exactly like Hovind. The reality is as he gets older, religious nuts will take him more seriously and he's going to make a shit ton of money.
If he could figure out how to get a decent key off a green screen he'd look a lot more professional from a graphically visual standpoint.
the laws physics put forth the processes including evolution which allowed our biology to develop our big brain intelligence which allows for pattern recognition to help us in comfort with the uncertainty of the unknown...so that is how you, me in the past, Francis Collins, and others are able to reasonable intelligent and still believe non sense.
Also our intelligence has reached a point that no other living animals has that is we are able to control nature's direction (also manipulate the laws of physics) or your god's intentions for that matter...example like using contraceptives to override the urges of evolution to reproduce, defying gravity with rockets, secular morality curbing a drive to divid & conquer.....also the intelligence to fool our self even when our view is contrary to the actual world which is by product of big brains
I am honestly trying to address your claims man....NO ATHEIST CLAIMS TO have made the world logical that is the bases of physics...no physicists claims that the universals laws and constants were not there before we evolved to the point of discovery...so that brings us back to point of the origins of the universe which is highly complex and for the most part unknown in which any reasonable physicist would admit...science is continuing to find truth, your world view already knows, which is false
And you still say that morals come from the fucking bible... So i'm guessing i have no morals, and neither did the ancient Greeks. So a democratic system is not based off of morals and values is that what your saying? You have reached the APEX of stupidity... Congrats!
And by the way, what makes you think our reality is insensible? Your god is not logical, and how can a rock be illogical and logical. What the fuck are you talking about? How can reason rally be a celebration of god? I celebrate reason because it is so. Reason is my ability to process information unbiasedly and rationally. Now if I do not believe that your so called christian gad game me this ability, hoe can i celebrate his when I'm actually celebrating reason. You don't make any fucking sense.
No one said people that haven't come to the conclusion of atheism are stupid and dumb. They may very well be smart, but were indoctrinated. The same way you have these emotions that tell you your way would be beneficial to others, we see the world in a way that empowers us and that we want to share with others. Learn the rules of logic, math, and science. Better yet read the bible any more. Education usually leads to atheism. And we would be happy to add another free person to the world.
@Denchanter357 Totally agree!!!!!...the difference is that one party is molding the facts around their view instead of molding their view based off the facts and on what is actually representable to other intelligent beings
Reason and logic can exist without a mind? They are outside our minds? tell that to Rainman!..
As a christian.. you're a joke to the voodoo people! Because Venom KNOWS in fact that god is fake and Voodoo is right, he knows that. He just pretends to be a christian, for lots of money, but in his heart there's plenty of Voodoo. Hail to the dolls!
Venom the reason the world is becoming this way is written in scripture. I'm Christian and debating with Atheists is one of my favorite things to do. Keep making your videos sir. I like that you stand up and you're no dummy when it comes to scripture. Stick to teaching and speaking to Christians my friend. I'm all about saving but we can only reach people who really want to be saved.
Stay strong and stay blessed my friend - you're doing good in the world.
@eyestepback "yes it's theoretical but there is alot of evidence that points to there being something going on in our universe that we don't understand at all."
Points to? Hell, science admits outright many things that aren't understood. Don't pretend that you do, though.
@VenomFagnX As this video is in the comedy category I would have to say it's not really that funny. Not sure if the rest of your viewers realise that they are apparently watching a "comedy" video but I have to congratulate you on your acting because you pull off the "religious nut-job" to a T. Thanks for linking the channels of the "Real Science & Reason" you-tubers such as Aronra, Thunderf00t & DonExodus2. Not sure if you do requests but in your next video can you act like a "full retard"
@PrudwithoutGod He's mirroring videos from a guy that actually posts these videos, but that guy doesn't allow dissenting comments. This is a place to debate what VenomFangX says, since he doesn't allow it on his site. Because he's an idiot.
OK.....actually here's my question. Why you're religion, how do you with all your smarmy logic profess to "know" that you got the right version of the "TRUTH".How can you "know" you won the Genetic/environmental lottery and grew up in the right place with the right message? There's many ways to talk about God and the origins of things. Have you actually studied the bible, or are you just Paroting what was said by others? I respect either answer. One shows dedication the other shows loyalty.
his immutable intangible laws can be identified and held in the hand. If I take one rock and pick up another rock then ( 1+ 1 = 2). By getting rid of the rocks all I have done is eliminate one (1) example of his intangible laws. Meanwhile if you get rid of one (1) iron age fairy tale about a semipacifist zombie guy to live in an impossibly happy place when you die so long as you admit you were a screwup from birth and eat his flesh/blood....Thats how more Zombies are made!!!
Einstein even mentioned god many times but wasn't referring to the one you have 'faith' in. look up quantum physics, much of it ties in with spirituality because of our limited perception and the world forming due to the act of perceiving. the world is beautiful bc we subconsciously notice the patterns flowers shells and all life uses as it make beauty from a simple equation. look up Fibonacci numbers and how plants grow leaves at 137.5 deg to cover as much as possible. this is 4/4 hope you read
@eyestepback He also said DEFINITIVELY that he has no use for a personal God. He dabbled in pantheism, but beyond that, it's definite he was not a Christian. Claiming a designer because we recognize beauty is an argument from personal incredulity. You've failed outright.
@alphaenemy lol and i never claimed a designer read my stuff without a bias perspective and stop being cold to what religion understands but remain skeptical with the backup of scientific discoveries. I havn't failed at shit he thinks he knows all because of god, i think we know nothing and everything is god. u didn't read my shit at all did you
you have this idea that atheists are cold scientist and while that may be true for some its not for most. some do become cold out of spite because of the understanding of illogical stories of death rape incest mass genocide etc. in the BIBLE. so they block out the spiritual feeling we all get, but most quantum and theoretical physicists understand there is a type of 'god' just not a being that created the earth in 7 days. why not just 1? hes god isn't he? look up Deuteronomy 22:24-32
the reason you know god exists and ppl with near death xp and all the visions in bodily stressful times, always see bright light that is ETERNAL AND OUTSIDE OF TIME, or empty nothingness OUTSIDE OF TIME. they feel this because it is either pure equilibrium or unthinkable unequilibrium. and how NATURE works is it always balances out like osmosis etc. we strive for this 'god' because we need to balance whats missing inside our limits of biological perception with pure love or energy or GOD.
@eyestepback The bright light has nothing to do with brain chemistry, then? Because there are studies that have concluded that it is. I don't know if you read much scientific literature...actually, I'm positive that you don't.
@alphaenemy there may be a reaction in the brain for these things, but the tie in with spirituality are recent. and theoretical. the fact that when we look at at electron it is everywhere until we perceive it shows that we are forming the universe through perception. as well as plants and other animals. Look up the holographic theory. Im not religious at all and nothing that i said says I do. in fact I stated I think its bull shit. read over what I wrote. Im saying god as Einstein did.
@eyestepback Listen, I know that you're getting all excited about these supposed new age parallels and supposed correlation of spirituality with science, but the reality is that those correlations work only as good as a metaphor, and have no practical applications whatsoever. They do not correlate well with NDE's, OBE's, or other fantasies. This has been shown in experiments. You're buying into a lot of bullshit. And I do mean buying, as I'm suspecting you've spent money already.
dude quantum physics and theoretical physics both theorize into higher forms of space, most theoretical physicists are VERY spiritual because they understand this god you feel just don't custom listen to the bible stories so they know the bible is bs. but this 'god' you feel is real, but its not a being, it equilibrium, it is the semetry between all things and we only perceive 3d because of our biological perceptions. but everybody can conceptualize this god and do. except some don't in spite...
@alphaenemy and no i can't cite one source because it is from hearing from many theoretical phys and their views on higher dimensions. don't mix spirituality with religion they are two completely different things.
@eyestepback No, they're the same thing if you're being dogmatic about it as I see that you are. As a metaphor, maybe a touch of merit, but there is no evidence to suggest what you're proposing.
@alphaenemy life is deeper than the 3 dimensions we perceive. religion has tapped into this but is moronically having faith in adolescent books which overgeneralized all occurrences as god. Don't be so blind and only see with your eyes. conceptualize outside our perceptual limits. look up understanding the 10 dimensions...seriously look that up
@eyestepback Theoretical cosmology is still only at the hypothesis/experimentation stage, and nothing you see parallels in (I'm supposing eastern philosophy, hinduism, etc.) actually relate to science. "conceptualiz(ing) outside our perceptual limits" is called imagining things. You are imagining things that aren't there, but you're believing them as dogma. I do apologize for lumping you in with Christians, though you both still use similar garbage terminology.
@alphaenemy im saying there is a reason why so many religions believe in gods and after life of some sort. Im not saying its anything like they think it is, but i do think they tap into something. I don't pay money for any information on the internet. If we understand the 3d so well, why do our laws of the universe break down getting closer to a black hole? why are there black holes? we is time relative? why is it that the faster we move the slower time moves. why do people feel outside of time?
@alphaenemy and i really do think that things we believe to be as metaphor in every day life as well as coincidence however even to good bad they may be. are and work so well because we are traversing a higher dimension and only seeing 3 dimensions of it. like emotional gravity. or different frequencies of gravity. and our free will is choosing to be happy or sad is to choose to be in a dense area or sparse.. just theorizing of course but it is true it would explain why when your around....
@alphaenemy but the demonstration is everywhere, its just not evidence because theres no way for us to relate it....yet. once we figure out a way to tap into space and travel through warped spacetime, we will have a much greater understanding of what the space we see is part of. its useless now yes but it won't be later. in other generations prob. and don't believe anything. on a side note. ufo's are spotted everywhere. and traveling that distance is unimaginable without space distortion.
@alphaenemy i think youre being slightly ignorent. no theres no proof of ufo claims but they all are on home vids and they are ususally in triangles of lights pretty weird you have to admit but ya i feel you
@alphaenemy someone whos negative you become negative or the yin yang idea where its a perfect symmetry of fluctuation. in some sense it is imagining because we can't perceive it. but relating the hard to explain phenomenon in social interaction makes me more interested. and with physicists finding that e- are everywhere until they are observed does nothing but reinforce these ideas. look up understanding the 10th dimension..its on youtube and there are many many vids all are interesting
Your impeccable *COUGH COUGH* logic *COUGH COUGH* failed for one simple reason; you are still incapable of using empirical evidence to prove that the Christian god is the most likely answer for any question that has ever remained unanswered. Get some proof, or you will never convert a rational person.
FYI, whatever delusions you have in your mind, no atheist believes in god. That's like a book that isn't a book, logically impossible.
"Much of the supposed conflict between science & reason is what philosophers call a category mistake, like commenting on how long red is." - David Wolpe, in "Why Faith Matters"
Great Video, solid logic... God Bless you buddy. It is just too bad these YouTube atheists just try to derogate you rather than actually using the reason they claim to have to debate intelligibly. How do you atheists expect to be taken as intelligent when nothing that comes off your fingers adds to the subject. Your only aim is malice, and that is the true sign of a fool.
@ALLKINDZASH1T If his logic was so solid, how come decha1981 took this video apart with ease. Also, how do you expect someone to add to a discussion with someone spurting out nonsense without tearing the nonsense apart. What can we build out of the crap Shawn has given?
@helios5868 decha1981 took this video apart with ease because it's really easy to take it apart. If all VFX is going to do is beg the question, he's already lost.
Shawn's problem is that he thinks that atheists really do believe in god and are just denying his existence. It is this mistaken and insulting presupposition which makes his arguments redundant and ineffective. It is also what brings on such harsh mockery. He actually seems like a pretty smart kid. It's a shame. "Sometimes people laugh at me."
a theory is an idea that attempts to explain natural phenomena. theories by definition cannot be proven true, only disproven by refuting the data from the original theory and coming up with a better one. so far, the theory of evolution has stood the test of time as is the case with gravity and plate tectonics as 1n354a mentioned. such a typical christian attacking everyone with a different opinion though. bigots like you are the reason people stay away from churches.
Lastly, on the subject of bullying. God is the ultimate bully. Come to me or burn in Hell. That is not a choice! It is ridiculous to claim it is and an insult to humanity. That is evidence of a Supreme Fascist ruling over a celestial North Korea.
@TheConfusednomad If you are an Atheist then you do not believe in God thus God can not be a bully because you do not believe in Him . In Addition you say Yahweh is a Murderous Diety if you as an Atheist do not believe in the existance of God then your comment makes you a hypocrite because you are claiming a God you do not believe in is Murderous moreover Why would Hell concern you if you do not believe it exists ?
@GrayWulf316 LMAO. I am merely working with the information that I am told by Christians. Obviously, I don't believe in god. If you didn't understand that my argument is assuming his existence, then now, hopefully, you do. It is so unsurprising to see Christians resort to calling names.
@GrayWulf316 Making comments about the Christian god as he is described in the Bible is the same as making comments about Scrooge as he is described in A Christmas Carol. Both characters are fictional, but that doesn't stop commenting on their behavior.
@TheConfusednomad If you are assuming the existance of God then you can not be an Atheists an assumtion is based on taking for granted Ie-defined as to admit or concede; accept for the sake of argument. so you are no longer an Atheist as you just admitted you believe in a Diety .Welcome to our side ! as for insults take a look at YT Atheists insult Religious people on every video they make so please stop pretending to be a victim
@GrayWulf316 I am beginning to question your ability to debate. In any debate, in order to have a discussion, terms have to be negotiated. It is not like I literally assume he exists. Assuming in debate is not conceding. It is merely stating that "if your position is true then the following has to be true." That is what I am saying in my previous posts. If the god you say exists, then he is an evil bastard.
I in no way feel like a victim. That is what Christians do on a daily basis.
@TheConfusednomad i disagree I have a good friend who is an Atheist and his Morals are no diffent than mine , I believe Mutual respect is the key to cohabitation. I respect your right to disbelieve however in exchange I expect your respect .Most Atheists ive met on YT disrespect my religious beliefs immediately so in turn I disrespect them ,However 1% have been respectful and I give them the utmost respect in turn .
@GrayWulf316 I think you are confused. There is a difference between disrespecting your beliefs and pointing out that your beliefs are bat-shit-crazy. Most atheists point out the latter while you confuse it as being disrespectful.
@1n354a you are a prime example of a Disrespectful Ignorant Atheist, you claim my beliefs are Bat%$#@Crazy and yet you have no idea what my beliefs are for that matter what my religion of choice or my personal theological beliefs are,my morals and political beliefs, instead you rush in like a texas redneck screaming and shouting hopeing someone will look your way as you try to cause a scene .take a long look in the mirror buddy , you need to just grow up !
@GrayWulf316 and you have no idea of mine.which matters little really. you seem to think it okay to blather on about anything that you want (you aren't an atheist because you criticized my concept of god, for example) and then you get your panties in a wad when people respond to your public display of ignorance. you should expect people to respect your right to have religious beliefs, but don't confuse that with the idea that people should respect what you believe.
@1n354a as an Atheist you have no concept of God remember your don't believe in God ! As for you , you have acted like a little child from your 1st post to me , so no i do not wish to know you nor understand what you believe or disbelieve . Your constant insults to me have proven that you are nothing more than a troll and im tired of playing this game with you so please go annoy someone who cares !
@GrayWulf316 You are wrong - atheists have a very good understanding of the Christian concept of god but do not see any reason to believe that it exists. I don't believe that Gandalf exists, but I understand what and who Gandalf is according to the LoTR. You have acted like an ass since my first post and have gone so far as threatening me (again not very Christian of you - tsk tsk tsk). I see that you will probably not change your behavior in the future. You are free to go.
@1n354a OK you are an Atheist i gey it , so you want a cookie or something >? My personal beliefs have nothing to do with your disbelief and doesn't affect your life in any way . yet you keep screaming and waving your flag saying stupid things like your belief is stupid ect. ect. ect. as for threatening you LOL i told you anytime you want to step up and be a man step in the ring with me and i would teach you respect that is not a threat silly boy it's offering a match in the ring LOL@U!
@GrayWulf316 I said you were free to go. Please don't let the door hit you on the way out....or perhaps you should pray for an angel to flitter down and hold it for you?
@1n354a all you have to do is quit responding but no you just throw around more insults thinking people will see your words and think you are cool , You are so childish! I bet your life is horrible and no wonder with such a negative attitude toward people Not misserable like you ! one day you will wake up and see it takes all kinds in this world and you must get along with everyone or you will just be a hermit with no life why don't you take up Krav Maga and see me in a year or so LOL@U!
@1n354a Free to go? oh is this your channel now? please take into account the effects of your words, you are literally doing nothing but trying to make people angry and if that is your life goal you are far more pathetic than I can concieve.
@ALLKINDZASH1T well considering your position on evolution being 'just a theory' (LOL!) I really don't value much what you can or cannot "concieve". Thanks for voicing your opinion though!
@1n354a Evolution is just a theory buddy, anyone who says it is fact does not understand the scientific method. It takes faith to believe in either, that is the truth. You have been shaped from youth to see the world as you do, so I cannot blame you, but I do pity you.
@ALLKINDZASH1T ROFL you ignoramus. It is "just a theory" like gravity or plate tectonics or relativity (or on and on and on and on). If you are really going to try that line, I recommend on going to some born again Christian school in the deep south and you will be welcomed with open arms. Anywhere else and you will be ridiculed and laughed at endlessly. You are free to go.
You are confusing theory with hypothesis an hypothesis is a tentative explanation for an observation, phenomenon or scientific problem that can be tested by further investigation
After further investigation you can then formulate a theory which is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena
@ALLKINDZASH1T Anyone who says "Evolution is just a theory" doesn't understand what a scientific theory is. Evolution is scientific fact, and it's explained in the theory.
Faith can in no way be reasonable. He tries to say that because things exist and are the way they are, then God must exist. That is quite a jump. Science and REASON and logic have shown us that everything we see and experience does not require a god. If you are a follower of Jesus and believe in the trinity, then you have to believe that Jesus and Yahweh are in essence one. Yahweh is one murderous deity in the Old Testament and thus, so is Jesus.
"Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has. Reason is the Devil’s greatest whore; by nature and manner of being she is a noxious whore; she is a prostitute, the Devil’s appointed whore; whore eaten by scab and leprosy who ought to be trodden under foot and destroyed, she and her wisdom… Throw dung in her face to make her ugly. She is and she ought to be drowned in baptism… She would deserve, the wretch, to be banished to the filthiest place in the house, to the closets." ML Again
"But since the devil's bride, Reason, that pretty whore, comes in and thinks she's wise, and what she says, what she thinks, is from the Holy Spirit, who can help us, then? Not judges, not doctors, no king or emperor, because [reason] is the Devil's greatest whore." Martin Luther
"Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has: it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but--more frequently than not --struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God." Martin Luther
My man! You know, this guy knows what hes talking about. Although he is a solid Christian, I respect what Christianity is all about. VFX to the bible is like I am to the three little pigs.
@ec123456789able If he were able to refute the theory of evolution he would be celebrated around the world for changing science as we know it. Instead he is laughed at on YouTube.
In all of his videos he employs straw-men to debunk arguments that he himself created. He negates certain very important pieces of evidence that don't agree with what he wants to believe.
This is the problem with Shawn, he is a dogmatic creationist, he wants to push an agenda that he brainwashed himself into believing. He also holds resentment towards anyone who debunk his arguments by claiming they are biased to a ''naturalistic world view''
VFX, I'm astounded at the common fallacy you are using. You keep assuming Atheists actually believe in God despite their rejection of him. Do you realize if that is a valid argument I can just say 'You don't ACTUALLY believe in God, you just claim you do, and think you do, but subconsciously you're an Atheist'. Seriously, if they play this video at the reason rally it would be only for the pure comical factor.
Well this proves it...Theologians really can persuade themselves of anything. The reason why there is no empirical evidence for God is because God is imaginary, and the bible is myth period.
I guess he thinks it's highly logical, that there are some scumbag called god, or allah or something. That created it all with a wave of his wand, or something.
But to him it's impossible to think that evolution are true. Even if it's been demonstrated to be so, many times. What can be proved, and what scientists have discovered are to him impossible. :-D
WTF? How on earth did I end up subscribed to this channel? Maybe it was for the lolz. No-one deliver strawman after strawman like VenomFauxX. Bless him, trying to stay relevant. Thanks for the lolz but I've now corrected my subscription.
@BelieveNoGod Ah, now that makes sense. :D Thanks. Re-subscribed. Not sure who flagged this down as spam... seems we have some spoilers in the midsts. Many like myself may not realize this isn't under VFX's control and unsubscribe, so probably best not to flag down clarification like this. Thanks BNG. :)
Yea a couple years ago I watched some of his videos and kindly complimented on his intelligent delivery in his videos and then respectfully brought up a couple points of disagreement and my comment was deleted....He has such an iron clad case yet hasn't the balls to defend them
So he takes a random set of parameters and imagines a being/entity that matches all the required parameters and calls the question answered....does he not realize that we can all imagine up an answer to any difficult or impossible to answer question? Extreme belief in something does not make that thing real....oh PCS, what a special person you are.
We don't think you people are dangerous all the time. The only time you get really dangerous is when you decide you want your twisted morals written to legislation that effects everyone, you start vilifying a group who don't believe what you do and you all get riled up and start a war or burn a bunch of people (whatever comes first). Take on a non-interference policy, keep your nose out of our business and it will all be roses.
What's the point of just mirroring his video -- just copying it without any commentary or criticism? He already MADE this video. What have YOU done?
If you take exception to what he says, then say so. You've forfeited an opportunity to voice your opinion. Was it just to make a list of worthy channels in your description box?
Sorry to be a bitch, but you just made me listen for 11 minutes to somebody I can't stand, and you didn't even give me a cookie!
@TheScienceFoundation If you're talking about posting the video so people can comment freely, then I understand that. But geez, at least do SOME commentary.
If this is what venomfagnx typically does, for that purpose, then I'll remember that next time. Shawn blocked me a long time ago and I don't watch his videos.
@Astrobrant2 OR...at least I wish he would put up a title at the beginning saying something like "This is an unedited mirror of VenomFangX's video. I'm posting it so people can comment freely."
nice arguement don't let all these hate mongers stop you keep up the good work ,there are thousands of Atheists on YT screaming Christians are stupid and evil ect. the only reason you get so much negativity from them is only a handful of Christians on YT have the Guts to throw it right back in their faces ! Just keep it legal and don't stoop to dirty tricks ect. to get them! Jesus holds us to a higher standard you are better than that,if you show everyone else that also U will Win in the end !
@TheScienceFoundation so you are saying christians should just let people call them stupid and their beliefs delusional and not fight back ? so in school if a bully picked on you did you just let him beat you down ? or did you fight back ? No sir we will not be keep our mouths shut to make you happy !
@GrayWulf316 I doubt people are simply calling you stupid or delusional, for instance in reply to the arguments advanced in this video I would point out that they're appeals to consequence and complete bare assertion of objective morality, which are fallacies. So instead of looking at it as a fight, maybe consider not supporting fallacious argumentation.
@TheScienceFoundation want me to supply you with a list of YT atheists who have said to me withing the last 7 days that christians are stupid,delusional,the world would be better off without us, I should kill myself to meet my god now and the list goes on and on my experience with Atheists this week has led me to the conclusion that the are ANTI-Christian who pretend to be unbiased yet are not ,who also act infintile when a Christian simply says their comment is offensive .
@DannyAces again i stated i have no problem with Science in school however science doesn't teach NO-God or at least it didn't when i was in school.
Im not catholic so my church is non profit any additional funds are spent to help those in need it's not a Buisness'as for a church influencing the Govt if that is true it's not the fault of the church that the Govt. is corrupt . If you want to beat your kids dude that your buisness not mine ,my children are well behaved and Christians !
@GrayWulf316 Grey. Science doesn't teach that there's no God, just that the God represented by the worlds religions doesn't exist. The God which modern science does leave room for, is not the one you pray to.
Science ABSOLUTELY teaches no-god. Without proof, it doesn't exist.
And I said *keep religion out of science class.
And NO! You should NOT just be okay with someone beating their kids. When the child is in danger someone needs to step in. Its not the funny "My skyfather gave me free will and loves me but made rules and hell just because"stuff- it's the "Hate gay people because they're gay"stuff
The westboro baptist church kids are good christians too
Ever hear the saying "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"? Considering the nature of your argument, I recommend keeping your mouth shut - otherwise we are all going to laugh at you.
@GrayWulf316 I am merely pointing out that it is better to let people think you the fool than to know that you are one. Based on your comments, you are a fool. Checkmate.
You are receiving hate comments because you are speaking so far above the capabilities of most of the viewers on You Tube. I listen to your every well spoken word, and you make perfect sense, and have the gift of interpretation of God's Word. Don't ever be discouraged because of principalities and powers.
njp2020 6 minutes ago
I've seen a lot of your stuff, and you know yourself most arguments you hold are at best misunderstandings. But why do you think people are atheists to piss you or others off? It's just a lack of belief, why does it bother you so much?
Your lack of logic is hurting my brain.
Though, you are good at repeating yourself, I give you that.
LeordRedhammer 1 hour ago in playlist Uploaded videos
The world is not in existence with logical sensibility. This is a logical construct by animals of different intellect to live in it. We evolved senses and brains to deal with it, not the other way around.
Mathematics is derived from the physical world, and that is how it's most commonly (and successfully) told in school. It's a way we use to describe the physical world.
LeordRedhammer 2 hours ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I'm not a christian and I don't agree with this guy a lot, but this video is great. The comments from atheists are amazingly supportive of their own ignorance. Reason is good. Good job VenomFang.
arccotangent 22 hours ago
Dude...if your intention is to convert....then it's not working infact....it's doing the exact opposite. Your ridiculous, one minded, viewpoint exposes your ignorance of truth. Good luck!
opensauce 1 day ago
Mathematics didn't exist before the human mind. The concept of numbers is a human invention, apparently so complex that you oversimplify it as something that's always existed and that we discovered. That's completely wrong
anthemofadam 1 day ago
@anthemofadam 2+2 didn't equal 5 before I got here?
arccotangent 22 hours ago
Slightly elevated diction is a dangerous thing, boys and girls. This is, literally, the most unintelligible banter I've heard in a long time. Throwing around words like "teleological" and "immaterial" and imagining that you are using them in their applicable philosophical OR logical contexts, does not make your argument itself intelligible. I can't lie; I have ZERO idea what any of this meant -- period.
KerrinScott 4 days ago in playlist Uploaded videos
believe me, if they see this video.... they will want to play it... its that funny and ridiculous.
eddieisfiction 5 days ago
This made me an athiest :D
Redempter12 5 days ago
@Redempter12 But I'm sure you still like a de pee pee in your mouth :D
arccotangent 22 hours ago
reason and mathematical principals are not laws. they are ideas created by man.
I've never understood why religious people set God in the place of ideas?
Just because you can't comprehent something, doesn't mean that it is supernatural. I mean, explain to me how oatmeal tastes? the only answer is oatmeal. The logical/reasonal explanation for this is certainly not that the flavour of oatmeal i created by god.
JBeyable 1 week ago
i'm pretty sure this guy's an atheist, and he's just trolling everybody
DafTacoustics 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos 2
why isn't this guy in jail? didn't he like con loads of people into donating him money and saying he would give the proceeds to charity but then keeping it.
jinofthethunder 1 week ago
This man is so stupid that he has managed to give me a slight headache.
BitfeNicks 1 week ago
Hey, maybe they will play this video. I bet it would be worth it. It's like free stand up comedy.
BitfeNicks 1 week ago
your are bizarre! put your morality on jesus christ... again! who is immoral?
mateusrocha 1 week ago
douch
funwithmusic 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Is this a joke?
303LeeEnfield1 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I blame your parents, they must of really not given a shit about you...
QSxFuzionzZ 2 weeks ago
Amen brother! So many people come up with the most idiotic stories to mock and disglorify Jesus.I accually pitty them because they know in their hearts that jesus exsist. What makes it even worse is jesus loves us so much that he sent his only son to die for us but those people are so arrogant that they cant stand to admit their faults.I am so glad i am saved.GOD IS GOOD!!!!!!!!!
xXxAbErObErDoBsxXx 2 weeks ago
@xXxAbErObErDoBsxXx Do not know if serious. Not sure if want. You trollin'?
Geddicus 2 weeks ago
If I keep using big words, hopefully, people will just accept what I am saying as fact...oh and by the way (Insert Bible Verse Here).
jrb0585 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Holy shit he's getting good at talking. Regardless of how absurd his views are, the fact remains he's a much improved speaker, his tone and pace already sounds exactly like Hovind. The reality is as he gets older, religious nuts will take him more seriously and he's going to make a shit ton of money.
If he could figure out how to get a decent key off a green screen he'd look a lot more professional from a graphically visual standpoint.
DarthSkater6 3 weeks ago
the laws physics put forth the processes including evolution which allowed our biology to develop our big brain intelligence which allows for pattern recognition to help us in comfort with the uncertainty of the unknown...so that is how you, me in the past, Francis Collins, and others are able to reasonable intelligent and still believe non sense.
focusedthoughts 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from VenomFagnX
Also our intelligence has reached a point that no other living animals has that is we are able to control nature's direction (also manipulate the laws of physics) or your god's intentions for that matter...example like using contraceptives to override the urges of evolution to reproduce, defying gravity with rockets, secular morality curbing a drive to divid & conquer.....also the intelligence to fool our self even when our view is contrary to the actual world which is by product of big brains
focusedthoughts 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from VenomFagnX
I am honestly trying to address your claims man....NO ATHEIST CLAIMS TO have made the world logical that is the bases of physics...no physicists claims that the universals laws and constants were not there before we evolved to the point of discovery...so that brings us back to point of the origins of the universe which is highly complex and for the most part unknown in which any reasonable physicist would admit...science is continuing to find truth, your world view already knows, which is false
focusedthoughts 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from VenomFagnX
Creationists are fucking retarded and illogical YOU ARE STUPID, DUMB, DANGEROUS AND DOGMA CREATORS
Unholyspaghetti 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
And you still say that morals come from the fucking bible... So i'm guessing i have no morals, and neither did the ancient Greeks. So a democratic system is not based off of morals and values is that what your saying? You have reached the APEX of stupidity... Congrats!
Unholyspaghetti 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos 7
IDK why you keep doing this... Thunderf00t pwned you, TAA pwned you, what the fuck do you want more?
Unholyspaghetti 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
And by the way, what makes you think our reality is insensible? Your god is not logical, and how can a rock be illogical and logical. What the fuck are you talking about? How can reason rally be a celebration of god? I celebrate reason because it is so. Reason is my ability to process information unbiasedly and rationally. Now if I do not believe that your so called christian gad game me this ability, hoe can i celebrate his when I'm actually celebrating reason. You don't make any fucking sense.
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Unholyspaghetti 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I wonder if sociopaths and narcissist are drawn to religious positions of leadership
1upguy0 3 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
No one said people that haven't come to the conclusion of atheism are stupid and dumb. They may very well be smart, but were indoctrinated. The same way you have these emotions that tell you your way would be beneficial to others, we see the world in a way that empowers us and that we want to share with others. Learn the rules of logic, math, and science. Better yet read the bible any more. Education usually leads to atheism. And we would be happy to add another free person to the world.
Denchanter357 3 weeks ago
@Denchanter357 Totally agree!!!!!...the difference is that one party is molding the facts around their view instead of molding their view based off the facts and on what is actually representable to other intelligent beings
focusedthoughts 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from VenomFagnX
@focusedthoughts sounds like that quote from the sherlock holmes movie. one begins to suit facts to fit theories instead of theories to suit facts.
Denchanter357 3 weeks ago
Reason and logic can exist without a mind? They are outside our minds? tell that to Rainman!..
As a christian.. you're a joke to the voodoo people! Because Venom KNOWS in fact that god is fake and Voodoo is right, he knows that. He just pretends to be a christian, for lots of money, but in his heart there's plenty of Voodoo. Hail to the dolls!
0vershade 4 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Venom the reason the world is becoming this way is written in scripture. I'm Christian and debating with Atheists is one of my favorite things to do. Keep making your videos sir. I like that you stand up and you're no dummy when it comes to scripture. Stick to teaching and speaking to Christians my friend. I'm all about saving but we can only reach people who really want to be saved.
Stay strong and stay blessed my friend - you're doing good in the world.
0lCerebratel0 4 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
A religious person accusing athiests of indoctrination and wars. HRMMMMM
tmurty 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos 11
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@eyestepback "yes it's theoretical but there is alot of evidence that points to there being something going on in our universe that we don't understand at all."
Points to? Hell, science admits outright many things that aren't understood. Don't pretend that you do, though.
alphaenemy 1 month ago
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alphaenemy 1 month ago
@RosesTimes If by "no proof" you mean "overwhelming evidence", then I agree totally.
alphaenemy 1 month ago
This has to be the longest, most hot winded argument from personal incredulity I've ever seen.
alphaenemy 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Okay, you say that god is everywhere, give me one physical piece proof other than the creation of the world wich was done by the big bang.
Oooh you dont have any proof,
hmmm think about that.
Firmly beliving in god is a mental illness,
before you realize that you wont be fit for any kind of reasoning or debating.
Let alone preaching like all you ignorant fanatics do.
Its okay to belive in god, thats fine.
But keep your psycosis to yourself, you pre evoloutional fuckups . . . =)
FunteX 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@VenomFagnX As this video is in the comedy category I would have to say it's not really that funny. Not sure if the rest of your viewers realise that they are apparently watching a "comedy" video but I have to congratulate you on your acting because you pull off the "religious nut-job" to a T. Thanks for linking the channels of the "Real Science & Reason" you-tubers such as Aronra, Thunderf00t & DonExodus2. Not sure if you do requests but in your next video can you act like a "full retard"
PrudwithoutGod 1 month ago
@PrudwithoutGod He's mirroring videos from a guy that actually posts these videos, but that guy doesn't allow dissenting comments. This is a place to debate what VenomFangX says, since he doesn't allow it on his site. Because he's an idiot.
alphaenemy 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
OK.....actually here's my question. Why you're religion, how do you with all your smarmy logic profess to "know" that you got the right version of the "TRUTH".How can you "know" you won the Genetic/environmental lottery and grew up in the right place with the right message? There's many ways to talk about God and the origins of things. Have you actually studied the bible, or are you just Paroting what was said by others? I respect either answer. One shows dedication the other shows loyalty.
jasoncummings2000 1 month ago
his immutable intangible laws can be identified and held in the hand. If I take one rock and pick up another rock then ( 1+ 1 = 2). By getting rid of the rocks all I have done is eliminate one (1) example of his intangible laws. Meanwhile if you get rid of one (1) iron age fairy tale about a semipacifist zombie guy to live in an impossibly happy place when you die so long as you admit you were a screwup from birth and eat his flesh/blood....Thats how more Zombies are made!!!
jasoncummings2000 1 month ago
Einstein even mentioned god many times but wasn't referring to the one you have 'faith' in. look up quantum physics, much of it ties in with spirituality because of our limited perception and the world forming due to the act of perceiving. the world is beautiful bc we subconsciously notice the patterns flowers shells and all life uses as it make beauty from a simple equation. look up Fibonacci numbers and how plants grow leaves at 137.5 deg to cover as much as possible. this is 4/4 hope you read
eyestepback 1 month ago
@eyestepback He also said DEFINITIVELY that he has no use for a personal God. He dabbled in pantheism, but beyond that, it's definite he was not a Christian. Claiming a designer because we recognize beauty is an argument from personal incredulity. You've failed outright.
alphaenemy 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@alphaenemy lol and i never claimed a designer read my stuff without a bias perspective and stop being cold to what religion understands but remain skeptical with the backup of scientific discoveries. I havn't failed at shit he thinks he knows all because of god, i think we know nothing and everything is god. u didn't read my shit at all did you
eyestepback 1 month ago
you have this idea that atheists are cold scientist and while that may be true for some its not for most. some do become cold out of spite because of the understanding of illogical stories of death rape incest mass genocide etc. in the BIBLE. so they block out the spiritual feeling we all get, but most quantum and theoretical physicists understand there is a type of 'god' just not a being that created the earth in 7 days. why not just 1? hes god isn't he? look up Deuteronomy 22:24-32
eyestepback 1 month ago
@eyestepback What a vapid assumption. Care to provide sources? Hint: The Bible is not a source.
alphaenemy 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
the reason you know god exists and ppl with near death xp and all the visions in bodily stressful times, always see bright light that is ETERNAL AND OUTSIDE OF TIME, or empty nothingness OUTSIDE OF TIME. they feel this because it is either pure equilibrium or unthinkable unequilibrium. and how NATURE works is it always balances out like osmosis etc. we strive for this 'god' because we need to balance whats missing inside our limits of biological perception with pure love or energy or GOD.
eyestepback 1 month ago
@eyestepback The bright light has nothing to do with brain chemistry, then? Because there are studies that have concluded that it is. I don't know if you read much scientific literature...actually, I'm positive that you don't.
alphaenemy 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@alphaenemy there may be a reaction in the brain for these things, but the tie in with spirituality are recent. and theoretical. the fact that when we look at at electron it is everywhere until we perceive it shows that we are forming the universe through perception. as well as plants and other animals. Look up the holographic theory. Im not religious at all and nothing that i said says I do. in fact I stated I think its bull shit. read over what I wrote. Im saying god as Einstein did.
eyestepback 1 month ago
@eyestepback Listen, I know that you're getting all excited about these supposed new age parallels and supposed correlation of spirituality with science, but the reality is that those correlations work only as good as a metaphor, and have no practical applications whatsoever. They do not correlate well with NDE's, OBE's, or other fantasies. This has been shown in experiments. You're buying into a lot of bullshit. And I do mean buying, as I'm suspecting you've spent money already.
alphaenemy 1 month ago
dude quantum physics and theoretical physics both theorize into higher forms of space, most theoretical physicists are VERY spiritual because they understand this god you feel just don't custom listen to the bible stories so they know the bible is bs. but this 'god' you feel is real, but its not a being, it equilibrium, it is the semetry between all things and we only perceive 3d because of our biological perceptions. but everybody can conceptualize this god and do. except some don't in spite...
eyestepback 1 month ago
@eyestepback Cite your source that suggests that most theoretical physicists are spiritual.
alphaenemy 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@alphaenemy and no i can't cite one source because it is from hearing from many theoretical phys and their views on higher dimensions. don't mix spirituality with religion they are two completely different things.
eyestepback 1 month ago
@eyestepback No, they're the same thing if you're being dogmatic about it as I see that you are. As a metaphor, maybe a touch of merit, but there is no evidence to suggest what you're proposing.
alphaenemy 1 month ago
@alphaenemy life is deeper than the 3 dimensions we perceive. religion has tapped into this but is moronically having faith in adolescent books which overgeneralized all occurrences as god. Don't be so blind and only see with your eyes. conceptualize outside our perceptual limits. look up understanding the 10 dimensions...seriously look that up
eyestepback 1 month ago
@eyestepback Theoretical cosmology is still only at the hypothesis/experimentation stage, and nothing you see parallels in (I'm supposing eastern philosophy, hinduism, etc.) actually relate to science. "conceptualiz(ing) outside our perceptual limits" is called imagining things. You are imagining things that aren't there, but you're believing them as dogma. I do apologize for lumping you in with Christians, though you both still use similar garbage terminology.
alphaenemy 1 month ago
@alphaenemy im saying there is a reason why so many religions believe in gods and after life of some sort. Im not saying its anything like they think it is, but i do think they tap into something. I don't pay money for any information on the internet. If we understand the 3d so well, why do our laws of the universe break down getting closer to a black hole? why are there black holes? we is time relative? why is it that the faster we move the slower time moves. why do people feel outside of time?
eyestepback 1 month ago
@alphaenemy and i really do think that things we believe to be as metaphor in every day life as well as coincidence however even to good bad they may be. are and work so well because we are traversing a higher dimension and only seeing 3 dimensions of it. like emotional gravity. or different frequencies of gravity. and our free will is choosing to be happy or sad is to choose to be in a dense area or sparse.. just theorizing of course but it is true it would explain why when your around....
eyestepback 1 month ago
@eyestepback Believe that all you want, but with no demonstration, I'm calling it metaphorical and useless.
alphaenemy 1 month ago
@alphaenemy but the demonstration is everywhere, its just not evidence because theres no way for us to relate it....yet. once we figure out a way to tap into space and travel through warped spacetime, we will have a much greater understanding of what the space we see is part of. its useless now yes but it won't be later. in other generations prob. and don't believe anything. on a side note. ufo's are spotted everywhere. and traveling that distance is unimaginable without space distortion.
eyestepback 1 month ago
@eyestepback You and I highly differ on our opinions of the validity of UFO claims, then.
alphaenemy 1 month ago
@alphaenemy i think youre being slightly ignorent. no theres no proof of ufo claims but they all are on home vids and they are ususally in triangles of lights pretty weird you have to admit but ya i feel you
eyestepback 1 month ago
@alphaenemy * I don't believe anything
eyestepback 1 month ago
@alphaenemy someone whos negative you become negative or the yin yang idea where its a perfect symmetry of fluctuation. in some sense it is imagining because we can't perceive it. but relating the hard to explain phenomenon in social interaction makes me more interested. and with physicists finding that e- are everywhere until they are observed does nothing but reinforce these ideas. look up understanding the 10th dimension..its on youtube and there are many many vids all are interesting
eyestepback 1 month ago
Your impeccable *COUGH COUGH* logic *COUGH COUGH* failed for one simple reason; you are still incapable of using empirical evidence to prove that the Christian god is the most likely answer for any question that has ever remained unanswered. Get some proof, or you will never convert a rational person.
FYI, whatever delusions you have in your mind, no atheist believes in god. That's like a book that isn't a book, logically impossible.
helios5868 1 month ago
@helios5868 it is actually is not like that. poor example.
ALLKINDZASH1T 1 month ago
"Much of the supposed conflict between science & reason is what philosophers call a category mistake, like commenting on how long red is." - David Wolpe, in "Why Faith Matters"
tamething1 1 month ago
Come on cards down, you know it and we know it - You have some deep psycological issues, you do not need Ytube you need a shrink!
hugocheeseslapper 1 month ago in playlist More videos from VenomFagnX
Keep up the good work Shawn. God bless you!!
DEERSLAYER2083 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Great Video, solid logic... God Bless you buddy. It is just too bad these YouTube atheists just try to derogate you rather than actually using the reason they claim to have to debate intelligibly. How do you atheists expect to be taken as intelligent when nothing that comes off your fingers adds to the subject. Your only aim is malice, and that is the true sign of a fool.
ALLKINDZASH1T 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@ALLKINDZASH1T If his logic was so solid, how come decha1981 took this video apart with ease. Also, how do you expect someone to add to a discussion with someone spurting out nonsense without tearing the nonsense apart. What can we build out of the crap Shawn has given?
helios5868 1 month ago
@helios5868 decha1981 took this video apart with ease because it's really easy to take it apart. If all VFX is going to do is beg the question, he's already lost.
alphaenemy 1 month ago
Shawn's problem is that he thinks that atheists really do believe in god and are just denying his existence. It is this mistaken and insulting presupposition which makes his arguments redundant and ineffective. It is also what brings on such harsh mockery. He actually seems like a pretty smart kid. It's a shame. "Sometimes people laugh at me."
fatouche99 1 month ago
im so sorry, i don't comment often and i always watch the hole video no matter how much it hurts. Rage Quit at 11:00
TheLittleMan26 1 month ago
Hey Shaw explain genesis ch6 1-9
gowan80 1 month ago
I haven't seen Shaun for a while. I thought he would have got smarter than this by now :/
NoeLPZC 1 month ago
This guy talks like a stick is stuck up his ass
killazerg1 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
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You know you're not even relavent anymore? You are a moron and you need to leave the internet.
Your parents are disgusting and should've been castrated at some point prior to your conception.
nathan0dts 1 month ago in playlist More videos from VenomFagnX
@AnonCrazyhorse snore - sorry what was that? you were saying something? oh...never mind I thought you had something important to say.
1n354a 1 month ago
prime case of a guy who thinks he is smarter than he actually is. lmao
bigjabba 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@bigjabba Yeah and his name is BIGIABBA
ALLKINDZASH1T 1 month ago
@ALLKINDZASH1T
a theory is an idea that attempts to explain natural phenomena. theories by definition cannot be proven true, only disproven by refuting the data from the original theory and coming up with a better one. so far, the theory of evolution has stood the test of time as is the case with gravity and plate tectonics as 1n354a mentioned. such a typical christian attacking everyone with a different opinion though. bigots like you are the reason people stay away from churches.
bigjabba 1 month ago
@bigjabba You really need to look what a theory is in a scientific context. That's not the correct definition.
JOESZAK 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@JOESZAK
...yes it is lol
bigjabba 1 month ago
your a retard. you make no sense. where is your reasoning that god exists because there is reason? you just leap to it.
catseye10000 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Lastly, on the subject of bullying. God is the ultimate bully. Come to me or burn in Hell. That is not a choice! It is ridiculous to claim it is and an insult to humanity. That is evidence of a Supreme Fascist ruling over a celestial North Korea.
TheConfusednomad 1 month ago
@TheConfusednomad If you are an Atheist then you do not believe in God thus God can not be a bully because you do not believe in Him . In Addition you say Yahweh is a Murderous Diety if you as an Atheist do not believe in the existance of God then your comment makes you a hypocrite because you are claiming a God you do not believe in is Murderous moreover Why would Hell concern you if you do not believe it exists ?
GrayWulf316 1 month ago
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TheConfusednomad 1 month ago
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@GrayWulf316 LMAO. I am merely working with the information that I am told by Christians. Obviously, I don't believe in god. If you didn't understand that my argument is assuming his existence, then now, hopefully, you do. It is so unsurprising to see Christians resort to calling names.
TheConfusednomad 1 month ago
@GrayWulf316 Making comments about the Christian god as he is described in the Bible is the same as making comments about Scrooge as he is described in A Christmas Carol. Both characters are fictional, but that doesn't stop commenting on their behavior.
Wradco.
1n354a 1 month ago
@TheConfusednomad If you are assuming the existance of God then you can not be an Atheists an assumtion is based on taking for granted Ie-defined as to admit or concede; accept for the sake of argument. so you are no longer an Atheist as you just admitted you believe in a Diety .Welcome to our side ! as for insults take a look at YT Atheists insult Religious people on every video they make so please stop pretending to be a victim
GrayWulf316 1 month ago
@GrayWulf316 I am beginning to question your ability to debate. In any debate, in order to have a discussion, terms have to be negotiated. It is not like I literally assume he exists. Assuming in debate is not conceding. It is merely stating that "if your position is true then the following has to be true." That is what I am saying in my previous posts. If the god you say exists, then he is an evil bastard.
I in no way feel like a victim. That is what Christians do on a daily basis.
TheConfusednomad 1 month ago
@GrayWulf316 I thought that the religious were superior morally lol. If so, then why do they behave so?
TheConfusednomad 1 month ago
@TheConfusednomad i disagree I have a good friend who is an Atheist and his Morals are no diffent than mine , I believe Mutual respect is the key to cohabitation. I respect your right to disbelieve however in exchange I expect your respect .Most Atheists ive met on YT disrespect my religious beliefs immediately so in turn I disrespect them ,However 1% have been respectful and I give them the utmost respect in turn .
GrayWulf316 1 month ago
@GrayWulf316 I agree that respect should be given to all. I am sorry you have had a bad experience. Most atheists I know are very respectful. Peace.
TheConfusednomad 1 month ago
@GrayWulf316 I think you are confused. There is a difference between disrespecting your beliefs and pointing out that your beliefs are bat-shit-crazy. Most atheists point out the latter while you confuse it as being disrespectful.
Ordwac.
1n354a 1 month ago
@1n354a you are a prime example of a Disrespectful Ignorant Atheist, you claim my beliefs are Bat%$#@Crazy and yet you have no idea what my beliefs are for that matter what my religion of choice or my personal theological beliefs are,my morals and political beliefs, instead you rush in like a texas redneck screaming and shouting hopeing someone will look your way as you try to cause a scene .take a long look in the mirror buddy , you need to just grow up !
GrayWulf316 1 month ago
@GrayWulf316 and you have no idea of mine.which matters little really. you seem to think it okay to blather on about anything that you want (you aren't an atheist because you criticized my concept of god, for example) and then you get your panties in a wad when people respond to your public display of ignorance. you should expect people to respect your right to have religious beliefs, but don't confuse that with the idea that people should respect what you believe.
1n354a 1 month ago
@1n354a as an Atheist you have no concept of God remember your don't believe in God ! As for you , you have acted like a little child from your 1st post to me , so no i do not wish to know you nor understand what you believe or disbelieve . Your constant insults to me have proven that you are nothing more than a troll and im tired of playing this game with you so please go annoy someone who cares !
GrayWulf316 1 month ago
@GrayWulf316 You are wrong - atheists have a very good understanding of the Christian concept of god but do not see any reason to believe that it exists. I don't believe that Gandalf exists, but I understand what and who Gandalf is according to the LoTR. You have acted like an ass since my first post and have gone so far as threatening me (again not very Christian of you - tsk tsk tsk). I see that you will probably not change your behavior in the future. You are free to go.
1n354a 1 month ago
@1n354a OK you are an Atheist i gey it , so you want a cookie or something >? My personal beliefs have nothing to do with your disbelief and doesn't affect your life in any way . yet you keep screaming and waving your flag saying stupid things like your belief is stupid ect. ect. ect. as for threatening you LOL i told you anytime you want to step up and be a man step in the ring with me and i would teach you respect that is not a threat silly boy it's offering a match in the ring LOL@U!
GrayWulf316 1 month ago
@GrayWulf316 I said you were free to go. Please don't let the door hit you on the way out....or perhaps you should pray for an angel to flitter down and hold it for you?
1n354a 1 month ago
@1n354a all you have to do is quit responding but no you just throw around more insults thinking people will see your words and think you are cool , You are so childish! I bet your life is horrible and no wonder with such a negative attitude toward people Not misserable like you ! one day you will wake up and see it takes all kinds in this world and you must get along with everyone or you will just be a hermit with no life why don't you take up Krav Maga and see me in a year or so LOL@U!
GrayWulf316 1 month ago
@1n354a Free to go? oh is this your channel now? please take into account the effects of your words, you are literally doing nothing but trying to make people angry and if that is your life goal you are far more pathetic than I can concieve.
ALLKINDZASH1T 1 month ago
@ALLKINDZASH1T well considering your position on evolution being 'just a theory' (LOL!) I really don't value much what you can or cannot "concieve". Thanks for voicing your opinion though!
1n354a 1 month ago
@1n354a Evolution is just a theory buddy, anyone who says it is fact does not understand the scientific method. It takes faith to believe in either, that is the truth. You have been shaped from youth to see the world as you do, so I cannot blame you, but I do pity you.
ALLKINDZASH1T 1 month ago
@ALLKINDZASH1T ROFL you ignoramus. It is "just a theory" like gravity or plate tectonics or relativity (or on and on and on and on). If you are really going to try that line, I recommend on going to some born again Christian school in the deep south and you will be welcomed with open arms. Anywhere else and you will be ridiculed and laughed at endlessly. You are free to go.
1n354a 1 month ago
@ALLKINDZASH1T "Evolution is just a theory"
You are confusing theory with hypothesis an hypothesis is a tentative explanation for an observation, phenomenon or scientific problem that can be tested by further investigation
After further investigation you can then formulate a theory which is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena
Moreba 1 month ago
@ALLKINDZASH1T Anyone who says "Evolution is just a theory" doesn't understand what a scientific theory is. Evolution is scientific fact, and it's explained in the theory.
alphaenemy 1 month ago
Faith can in no way be reasonable. He tries to say that because things exist and are the way they are, then God must exist. That is quite a jump. Science and REASON and logic have shown us that everything we see and experience does not require a god. If you are a follower of Jesus and believe in the trinity, then you have to believe that Jesus and Yahweh are in essence one. Yahweh is one murderous deity in the Old Testament and thus, so is Jesus.
TheConfusednomad 1 month ago
"Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has. Reason is the Devil’s greatest whore; by nature and manner of being she is a noxious whore; she is a prostitute, the Devil’s appointed whore; whore eaten by scab and leprosy who ought to be trodden under foot and destroyed, she and her wisdom… Throw dung in her face to make her ugly. She is and she ought to be drowned in baptism… She would deserve, the wretch, to be banished to the filthiest place in the house, to the closets." ML Again
TheConfusednomad 1 month ago
"But since the devil's bride, Reason, that pretty whore, comes in and thinks she's wise, and what she says, what she thinks, is from the Holy Spirit, who can help us, then? Not judges, not doctors, no king or emperor, because [reason] is the Devil's greatest whore." Martin Luther
TheConfusednomad 1 month ago
"Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has: it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but--more frequently than not --struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God." Martin Luther
TheConfusednomad 1 month ago
i hope god rapes you with his dick
chevycool6 1 month ago
My man! You know, this guy knows what hes talking about. Although he is a solid Christian, I respect what Christianity is all about. VFX to the bible is like I am to the three little pigs.
Morzakiri 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
This guy constantly misrepresents evolution and then postulates why he disagrees with the theory of evolution that 'he' created.
He has never refuted the real theory of evolution at all.
This guy is a very bad fundie.
ec123456789able 1 month ago
@ec123456789able If he were able to refute the theory of evolution he would be celebrated around the world for changing science as we know it. Instead he is laughed at on YouTube.
1n354a 1 month ago
@1n354a This is true.
In all of his videos he employs straw-men to debunk arguments that he himself created. He negates certain very important pieces of evidence that don't agree with what he wants to believe.
This is the problem with Shawn, he is a dogmatic creationist, he wants to push an agenda that he brainwashed himself into believing. He also holds resentment towards anyone who debunk his arguments by claiming they are biased to a ''naturalistic world view''
It is rather sad really.
ec123456789able 1 month ago 2
VFX, I'm astounded at the common fallacy you are using. You keep assuming Atheists actually believe in God despite their rejection of him. Do you realize if that is a valid argument I can just say 'You don't ACTUALLY believe in God, you just claim you do, and think you do, but subconsciously you're an Atheist'. Seriously, if they play this video at the reason rally it would be only for the pure comical factor.
Raherin 1 month ago
Well this proves it...Theologians really can persuade themselves of anything. The reason why there is no empirical evidence for God is because God is imaginary, and the bible is myth period.
redshift40 1 month ago
Hey, good ol' hooknose flairnostril boy is back
vegassilenttype 1 month ago
I guess he thinks it's highly logical, that there are some scumbag called god, or allah or something. That created it all with a wave of his wand, or something.
But to him it's impossible to think that evolution are true. Even if it's been demonstrated to be so, many times. What can be proved, and what scientists have discovered are to him impossible. :-D
BelieveNoGod 1 month ago
WTF? How on earth did I end up subscribed to this channel? Maybe it was for the lolz. No-one deliver strawman after strawman like VenomFauxX. Bless him, trying to stay relevant. Thanks for the lolz but I've now corrected my subscription.
OrthodoxAtheist 1 month ago
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BelieveNoGod 1 month ago
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BelieveNoGod 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@OrthodoxAtheist Because this is someone else called VenomfaGnx's channel.
This is unedited videos from VFX .
But without the comment censoring :)
So you can say practicly what you want, without VFX censoring of free speech.
And make fun of his 'logic' and reasoning.
I think it's hilarious the way he thinks of him self as a great thinker, but we all know what a scoundrel and a dirtbag he really is.
BelieveNoGod 1 month ago
@BelieveNoGod Ah, now that makes sense. :D Thanks. Re-subscribed. Not sure who flagged this down as spam... seems we have some spoilers in the midsts. Many like myself may not realize this isn't under VFX's control and unsubscribe, so probably best not to flag down clarification like this. Thanks BNG. :)
OrthodoxAtheist 1 month ago
I can't stand to watch venom destroy himself on camera. It's actually so stupid that no response is needed.
And the amount of projection, ugh, it's enough to make me sick.
slipcurve 1 month ago
Yea a couple years ago I watched some of his videos and kindly complimented on his intelligent delivery in his videos and then respectfully brought up a couple points of disagreement and my comment was deleted....He has such an iron clad case yet hasn't the balls to defend them
xrayman7040 1 month ago
Dear, boy. We just want you to use the brain your nonexistent god gave you.
fatouche99 1 month ago
So he takes a random set of parameters and imagines a being/entity that matches all the required parameters and calls the question answered....does he not realize that we can all imagine up an answer to any difficult or impossible to answer question? Extreme belief in something does not make that thing real....oh PCS, what a special person you are.
1n354a 1 month ago
We don't think you people are dangerous all the time. The only time you get really dangerous is when you decide you want your twisted morals written to legislation that effects everyone, you start vilifying a group who don't believe what you do and you all get riled up and start a war or burn a bunch of people (whatever comes first). Take on a non-interference policy, keep your nose out of our business and it will all be roses.
ptango101 1 month ago
for a moment , judging by the title of this video, I had thought that VenomfangX had become an atheist.
cjunk351 1 month ago
1+1=2, something cannot be two different things at the same time. How does this in any way point to the idea that there is a god? Fucking idiot.
unixhead101 1 month ago
What's the point of just mirroring his video -- just copying it without any commentary or criticism? He already MADE this video. What have YOU done?
If you take exception to what he says, then say so. You've forfeited an opportunity to voice your opinion. Was it just to make a list of worthy channels in your description box?
Sorry to be a bitch, but you just made me listen for 11 minutes to somebody I can't stand, and you didn't even give me a cookie!
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
@Astrobrant2 It's because Shawn is a censoring coward
TheScienceFoundation 1 month ago
@TheScienceFoundation If you're talking about posting the video so people can comment freely, then I understand that. But geez, at least do SOME commentary.
If this is what venomfagnx typically does, for that purpose, then I'll remember that next time. Shawn blocked me a long time ago and I don't watch his videos.
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
@Astrobrant2 OR...at least I wish he would put up a title at the beginning saying something like "This is an unedited mirror of VenomFangX's video. I'm posting it so people can comment freely."
Astrobrant2 1 month ago
@Astrobrant2 Yeah, sitting through this guy is too much to bear.
vegassilenttype 1 month ago
@TheScienceFountation not kidding just exaggerating heavily
JaredisAMPED 1 month ago
nice arguement don't let all these hate mongers stop you keep up the good work ,there are thousands of Atheists on YT screaming Christians are stupid and evil ect. the only reason you get so much negativity from them is only a handful of Christians on YT have the Guts to throw it right back in their faces ! Just keep it legal and don't stoop to dirty tricks ect. to get them! Jesus holds us to a higher standard you are better than that,if you show everyone else that also U will Win in the end !
GrayWulf316 1 month ago
@GrayWulf316 Christians would do better sticking to preaching faith rather than recycling rebutted pseudo-philosophy.
TheScienceFoundation 1 month ago
@TheScienceFoundation so you are saying christians should just let people call them stupid and their beliefs delusional and not fight back ? so in school if a bully picked on you did you just let him beat you down ? or did you fight back ? No sir we will not be keep our mouths shut to make you happy !
GrayWulf316 1 month ago
@GrayWulf316 I doubt people are simply calling you stupid or delusional, for instance in reply to the arguments advanced in this video I would point out that they're appeals to consequence and complete bare assertion of objective morality, which are fallacies. So instead of looking at it as a fight, maybe consider not supporting fallacious argumentation.
TheScienceFoundation 1 month ago
@TheScienceFoundation want me to supply you with a list of YT atheists who have said to me withing the last 7 days that christians are stupid,delusional,the world would be better off without us, I should kill myself to meet my god now and the list goes on and on my experience with Atheists this week has led me to the conclusion that the are ANTI-Christian who pretend to be unbiased yet are not ,who also act infintile when a Christian simply says their comment is offensive .
GrayWulf316 1 month ago
@GrayWulf316 Yes that is uncalled for, especially when there are valid rebuttals against the arguments christians put forward.
TheScienceFoundation 1 month ago
@TheScienceFoundation thank you finaly a respectful Atheist
GrayWulf316 1 month ago
@GrayWulf316
As an agnostic I have a few simple desires from Religion:
Stay out of government- look up blue laws.
Agree to keep religion out of science class, as long as you get to keep science out of church.
Agree that you won't condescend to me so long as I don't condescend to you.
Start taxing churches; they're businesses. Let them write off their charities just like the rest of us.
Stop indoctrinating children. The only reason anyone is religious is because they were brought up that way
DannyAces 1 month ago
@DannyAces ok i agree with seperation of church and state
as for science class i believe in the bible and evolution 1 day to a god could be millions of years for all we know
mutual respect is a given
churches are supposed to be non-prophet org. not buisnesses so i disagree if the church has to stay out of Gov. the Gov needs to stay out of Church !
as for my children how dare you tell me i can't raise my children the way i see fit ! ppl not raised religious become religious daily!
GrayWulf316 1 month ago
@GrayWulf316
Science class is for science. Science says no-god. Simple. Why is mass not enough to teach religion?
Churches are not non-phrophet orgs. They make BANK. The Vatican funds its own army.
How is it remotely fair to say that the church should influence laws we all follow but the govt can't regulate the church?!
And as for my daring? Let me ask you- why do you believe in God? Is it because you were raised that way?
Also- I'm off to beat my kids because im their dad & you arent
DannyAces 1 month ago
@DannyAces again i stated i have no problem with Science in school however science doesn't teach NO-God or at least it didn't when i was in school.
Im not catholic so my church is non profit any additional funds are spent to help those in need it's not a Buisness'as for a church influencing the Govt if that is true it's not the fault of the church that the Govt. is corrupt . If you want to beat your kids dude that your buisness not mine ,my children are well behaved and Christians !
GrayWulf316 1 month ago
@GrayWulf316 Grey. Science doesn't teach that there's no God, just that the God represented by the worlds religions doesn't exist. The God which modern science does leave room for, is not the one you pray to.
markken57 1 month ago
@GrayWulf316
Blue Laws- google them.
Science ABSOLUTELY teaches no-god. Without proof, it doesn't exist.
And I said *keep religion out of science class.
And NO! You should NOT just be okay with someone beating their kids. When the child is in danger someone needs to step in. Its not the funny "My skyfather gave me free will and loves me but made rules and hell just because"stuff- it's the "Hate gay people because they're gay"stuff
The westboro baptist church kids are good christians too
DannyAces 1 month ago
@GrayWulf316 "we will not be keep our moths shut"
Ever hear the saying "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"? Considering the nature of your argument, I recommend keeping your mouth shut - otherwise we are all going to laugh at you.
1n354a 1 month ago
@1n354a this comes from someone who can't spell mouth , and you are going to laugh at me ?
GrayWulf316 1 month ago
@GrayWulf316 I am merely pointing out that it is better to let people think you the fool than to know that you are one. Based on your comments, you are a fool. Checkmate.
1n354a 1 month ago