McCain On Equal Pay For Women- He's Against It!

[CabeBiken10]

*Well not really opinion, more like open statement.

[crazycoolone]

@CabeBiken10

Okay, I cannot find your comment back to me. However, deregulation assumes (incorrectly) that the big businesses/and big banks will have strong ethics and not try to milk the consumer. This is wrong because businesses always try to milk the consumer if they are deregulated. YOU may not want all regulation dropped, but many of my Repub. associates do.

You must be a man; I know plenty of guys that wanted Jessica Simpson to run for office so they could look @ her... pretty sad!

[crazycoolone]

@CabeBiken10

What I mean is if politics is about looking @ the librarian mom or the hunky guy rather than what they have to bring to the table, the US is in deep doo doo!

You can pull out your 'gentlemen's magazines' for that.

Everyone is claiming conservative... Even this Levi guy who is Bristol's child's father (baby-daddy).

I'd LOVE to hear your take on this guy running for mayor of Wasilla...

[CabeBiken10]

If you worked as hard as men you would probably make as much...

[PinkoRants]

@CabeBiken10 What utter rubbish. Women work just as hard as men. I'm a healthcare professional surrounded by women and they are just as capable as I am.

[CabeBiken10]

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Alright fair enough, I'll take back what I said because it was pretty harsh, I was just mad about something when I posted it.

Here is my true opinion.

If I did a study and found out that people originally born in Florida made less than people in born in California by 18%, and started protesting about it... Would you support my cause?

[PinkoRants]

@CabeBiken10 No, because you are basing your "cause" on the notion that if Floridians are earning less than Californians this must mean that they are doing less work, which is bull. Some, if not most of the hardest working people in the world are those earning the lowest wages.

[CabeBiken10]

@PinkoRants That is true, but it's because in this Country (America) people are paid according to the out come of there work, not the actual labor... if that makes sense?

But you wouldn't join my cause if I told you that the workers from Florida were working just as hard as the people from California and still getting paid less?

[PinkoRants]

@CabeBiken10 If a coal miner hits a large seam of coal and therefore digs out more coal than, say, the neighbouring coal mine, despite the fact that they might be working just as hard, should the miners only get paid for the amount of coal they mine or the amount of work done? I would argue for the latter. In the UK we smashed the old system of pay for produce during the first half of the 20th century.

[CabeBiken10]

@PinkoRants Then we are on two different wave links, I think a person should get paid according to the outcome of there work, not the work itself. I could go into the woods and work harder than 100 lawyers chopping wood, and have 300 pounds of wood to show for it. But who would get paid more?

Also, you didn't answer my question.

[PinkoRants]

@CabeBiken10 We'll have to agree to disagree. What I would ask is that, coming back to the coal mine analogy, is it right for the miners not to be paid despite their continued hard work just because they may not have reached a good seam of coal?

My answer to your question is obvious: No, for all the reasons I have stated. You believe that hardwork shouldn't equate to a decent wage, only results should, whereas I believe that hardwork should be rewarded regardless.

[CabeBiken10]

@PinkoRants You have to understand that in the miner analogy, The miners would still be paid regardless of what they find (Who would take a job that wouldn't) But the neighbor mine who found more coal, should be paid MORE because the product of there work was greater.

[PinkoRants]

@CabeBiken10 Bonuses might be ok in some circumstances, but I'm talking more specifically about a system whereby pay was based soley on produce obtained. I guess we've gone a little off topic.

Relating this to the womens pay debate, are you suggesting that men should therefore be paid more by default on the basis that sometimes they are more productive, and therefore label women as the less productive sex?

[CabeBiken10]

@PinkoRants Wait soley getting paid on product, is really risky. I don't agree with that.

What I'm saying is, I don't think women are getting paid less because there employer is necessarily discriminating against them because they are a women. I think the employers are paying/promoting employees according to there productiveness.

You even said "on the basis that sometimes they are more productive."

[PinkoRants]

@CabeBiken10 (continued) For example my girlfriend works for a golf company. It's very male dominated, near enough all of the management team are men. She works a lower-middle supervisory job for the same pay as a regular shopfloor worker and she often has to tackle workloads many times the size she should be tackling, yet her male counterparts are often given less work and are pushed forward for promotion based upon their gender rather than their productivity. They're seen as "one of the boys"

[CabeBiken10]

@PinkoRants I told you my reason for that comment, I was really mad about something. I don't even remember posting it...

I want to know how sure are you that your girlfriend is getting discriminated against for being a women? I've worked in many places and not once seen a women get discriminated against. I use to work at a restaurant as a waiter. It could be really stressful some times.

Well sometimes girls, when they would get overly stressed would just burst out crying, and everyone would

[CabeBiken10]

@PinkoRants Sympathize them and let them take a break because obviously it was too stressful. Can you imagine what people would think if a man started crying over something like that? People would tell him to suck it up! But it's something women can get away with.

I think a lot of these women want to be treated like a man when it's to their benifit, but want to be treated like a women at other times (for example when they cry over "too much stress")

[PinkoRants]

@CabeBiken10 The impression you gave when you said "If you worked as hard as men you would probably make as much" pretty much speaks for itself, you were gender stereotyping. Men are not more productive than women. There are many examples of situations were women work harder than men, the difference is in many cases women are not recognised or properly awarded for their contribution. Men are often chosen over women for promotion based upon gender stereotyping by male dominated industries.

[EmmittFan86]

Judging by your assertions, a few of you misunderstood the video.

the title of this is terribly misleading, too.

[ntn1987]

Pay is determined by the productivity, not by gender. get real.

[PinkoRants]

@ntn1987 If only that were true. I used to work as a Healthcare Assistant getting paid pitance, yet HCAs have a far higher workload and sometimes more responsibilites than many of their higher paid collegues.

[mhutchinson27]

john mccain is right lilly ledbetter wasted alot of time to file a lawsuit, people need other matters done, they wont sit and wait for you or me or anyone to file a lawsuit, if you are you better do it right there and then not 19-20 years from now

-texan conservative for mccain

[shantisativa]

Lets just say this I am 100% for Obama. go obama!! but he isnt at all saying he doesnt believe in equal rights he is saying that he doesnt want to change the constitution of statue of limitations. I applaud him for that there has already been too many amendments on the constitution. He is a very smart man just different beliefs than i have.

[im4real2703]

He sounds like an old perverted fart that believes in the early 1900 laws of man,No respect for all man kind,which means other races besides his own and has no respect for women and thinks women are less superior than men.He has a young gold digger for a wife.He also sounds like an control freak. !McCain ! don't forget your VIAGRA,or your wife will cheat on you,if she has'st already.lol

[CrowdPleeza]

Does anyone know the reason given for needing a statue of limitations for filing discrimination lawsuits? Lily Ledbetter didn't file her lawsuit until after 19 years. I wonder if her particular case was the best to base this Act on since 19 years is an unusually long amount of time to file a discrimination suit.

[Live4Truth333]

John Mccain jokes about how much women loved being raped!!

Search on youtube and google!!! If you don't search and spread the word, you are letting McCain get away with his actions!!!

[flashback950]

What the heck is he talking about???? Dementia!!!

[arhyme100]

incoherent answer as usual, this man is such a coward. he really sounds like someone with early to mid alzheimers disease

[CaptainBuckRogers]

What a jerk. Diss a teen girl who asks a great question. Either you believe like I do that women deserve the same pay or you don't. It's not rocket science.

[patriciaoday]

McCain pays his female staffers more than Obama does his. It's been in the news several times. He just doesn't want the FEDS coming in and telling private businesses what they should pay ANYONE, male or female.

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Obama says McCain is right an incredible 12 TIMES in the first debate. Bet Obama's handlers will be teaching him to stop that for the next debate. LOL!

[AntiSocialism08]

A vote for Nobama is a vote for pretty words and no action.

Look up the law in question - Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2007. (Go ahead - look it up.) Women currently have the right to sue for discrimination - McCain voted against removing the statute of limitations only.

What Obama says sounds pretty, but when you look up the details, it get real ugly and extremely stupid.

He's insulting and patronizing women. This woman does not need Obama to rescue me - I take care of myself.

[AntiSocialism08]

The question was about a bill that McCain voted against that would remove the statue of limitations on existing discrimination lawsuits. He answered it appropriately. Obama's 28 male staffers divided among themselves a total payroll of $1,523,120. Obama's average male employee earned $54,397.

Obama's 30 female employees split $1,354,580, or $45,152, on average.

McCain's 17 male staffers split $916,914, averaging $53,936. His 25 female employees divided $1,396,958 and averaged $55,878.

[deldelgary]

McCain opposes a woman's right to choose. He said, "I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned."

[TheTRUTHx1000]

This guy is AMAZING!

First off, he totally changed her question. Second, he never answered the question he put in place of it.

[oehieze]

can you explain the at least half dozen OTHER times you voted against the equal pay for women act?

[celticfcz]

Please America do the right thing

Obama 4 President.

[Naviti7]

This American and her husband will do the right thing!!

Obama '08!!

[Hineraukatauri]

As will this one and nearly everyone she knows.

Obama '08!!!

[BIGPETEPOKER]

That was a very nice political answer.Talking a lot without saying anything!!!

[charcoalmoon]

so much for "change" - mcpalin does not represent change.

[fatbottomgirl87]

I love how people think he is helping the feminist movement by picking sarah palin as his vp. THIS is the kind of thing that people should be paying attention to. Sarah Palin is NOT a feminist in any sense of the word.

[undrseige]

These morons have no clue why McCain put down that vote. They will twist it around so the Obama supporting morons eat it up. If you support Obama you're a brain dead nigga.

[hdhproductions7]

you are an ignorant racist

[drams92]

yep

[crimsontears1987]

lol,non partisan economist say obama's economic policies would benefit 95% of americans,mccain said he will continue bush's economic polciies the same policies that got us where we are today,i bet you voted for bush twice,now you're about to vote for his sidekick,but we're the morons.

[Kasrkin25]

And if you support McCain you're a brainwashed fascist-lover. See? I can say stupid shit and make sweeping generalizations too.

[kinggerald05]

This is shameful. McCain is a POW. He deserves our vote because of that. McCain and Palin both made beautiful speeches at the RNC. They were better than Obama's and Bidens by far and I loved it when Palin made fun of his community organizing self. McCain and Palin are honest and trustworthy. Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh said so, so you know it is truth. Palin will help with the women's vote because they know she shares their values. Palin and McCain love America. Obama does not.

[ColbyFoote]

A)I still have no idea how being shot down and tortured makes you qualified to rule the world's most powerful country

B) There are more people in my high school than the city Palin was head of. Obama helped out the lives of thousands in one of America's largest cities. You can't say that her values mirror those of the country's women: no evolution, no abortion even in cases of rape?

C) To say that a Unites States Senator, let alone a Presidential nominee, does not love america, is preposterous.

[keifrichards]

That went right over your head didnt it Colbyfoote?

[Donkat9]

Did he answer her question? Nope, just more McCain speak. Talking and saying nothing at all.

[takord]

maccain wants women to go broke lol.

[ace200599]

i dont like McCain

he was against the idea of mlk day

he doesnt want women to have equal rights

he thinks the average family household has about 5 million saved up in the bank

he doesnt know how to use the internet or brush his teeth

what a douchebag.

[Shukoninja]

dude so does he oppose the womens rights or wat cause all i heard is um well layers and um trials then a bunch of conservetives clapping they want to keep the old traditions of a rich white old guy as our leader

[crazycoolone]

He voted AGAINST women winning equal pay for the same job because "it will hurt businesses and that women need more training and education."

John McCain is the antithesis of his heroic personna just to win the White House; he stands for all the wrong things, he will LIE, CHEAT & STEAL for the White House now. He WAS an honorable man in 2000 when he lost to Bush. Now he thinks and feels he MUST say/ do ANYTHING to get in.

How Horrible!

[tramer76]

Don't worry Ladies, Gramps has picked a woman for his VP, A pro life, Pro gun, Hockey Mom. Just the way he likes em.

[johnfrankley]

i'm not sure exactly what he said. this is why i dont like politicians, they just talk and talk knowing they'll lose people half way.

[crazycoolone]

He voted AGAINST women winning equal pay for the same job because "it will hurt businesses and that women need more training and education."

John McCain is the antithesis of his heroic personna just to win the White House; he stands for all the wrong things, he will LIE, CHEAT & STEAL for the White House now. He WAS an honorable man in 2000 when he lost to Bush. Now he thinks and feels he MUST say/ do ANYTHING to get in.

How Horrible!

[CabeBiken10]

@crazycoolone Wait a sec, if he is willing to say or do anything to get in... wouldn't he just say women deserve equal pay to get their votes??

[crazycoolone]

@CabeBiken10

2 years later... no, it did not work that way.

The Republican philosophy is big business/ self-regulation and small government/ little - no regulations on business.

He was towing the politcal line (if you recall from 2008) to get businesses to endorse him.

(Wow, it doesn't feel like 2 years ago, but I'm clear on my statement from 2 years ago.)

[CabeBiken10]

@crazycoolone I'll admit, I'm not a big McCain fan, although he seemed the least of the two evils running for president. But I just think some of the things your saying are a little extreme.

(thanks for getting back to me 2 years later lol)

But i still don't get what your saying? You think he was willing to say or do anything in order to be president?

[crazycoolone]

@CabeBiken10

I don't think that McCain was the lesser of the 2 evils.

I think he had no new ideas and was riding Geo. W. Bush's politics which was a sure loss. He inserted Sarah Palin into the mix to spice things up and get the women to vote. However, he forgot.... no one rallies behind the 1st mate - they rally behind the Captain.

(What did I say that was extreme???)

Yes, he / McCain was saying & doing many things out of character to get votes then...like getting Palin as his VP...

[crazycoolone]

@CabeBiken10

I re-read my statement & nothing I said was extreme...

My question to you is...

(SINGING Bing Crosby)

Are you lonely tonight?!

LOL!!!!

[Mallamun]

In addition, a lot of these pay disparities become glaring the FURTHER UP the ladder you climb. As such, women will sometimes go through many gradual pay increases before they discover that they are climbing at a different rate from their male peers--again, making this tiny 6 month statute absolutely useless.

[Mallamun]

What's not being mentioned here is the RIDICULOUS shortness of this statue of limitations. It's not remotely long enough for a woman to even BEGIN to discover that she is being discriminated against. The clock starts ticking the day she is given her official salary, after which she has something akin to 180 days to discover the inequity and sue her employer. Which is ridiculous, beings as discussing salary with peers is not allowed, and most women only find out AFTER the job ends.

[ClearCrystalBall]

"They need the education and training."

~ John McCain on why he opposed equal pay legislation designed to ensure women who already have equal education, training, and qualifications be paid comparable salaries as men in the same job positions.

WOMEN AGAINST MCCAIN!

VOTE OBAMA 08!

[explosivechick1]

he wasn't even in the ROOM when it was to be voted on. i know that i work the same job as two males, and guess what, i have had more experiense, and they get paid more than i do an hour. im a single mom, its hard to know that those two men get paid more than a single mother trying to get by. so, in the end, i say, FUCK MCCAIN!

[Queenilene]

PLEEZE! None of us want to "fuck" McCain!I can't wait till Palin finds out what a sleaze he is. She'll walk out of the campaign so fast when he calls her the "c" word like he did to Cindy that the whole campaign will implode.

[clickonmyusername]

did u see what it said on her shirt!!!!!!!????

"john mccain doesn't care about our future"

hahahahahahahaha

[Javaronr]

@clickonmyusername lol you are right thats crazy LMAO

[madspunj1]

those ppl dont kno wat the hell hes sayin, look at their faces! look at the man on the bottom left at 0:40!

[celebrity19812004]

anti-woman, plain and simple.

[barrymorelover]

women getting paid less is a crock. I would like to see a stat that says women are discriminated. It's about carreer choices and working less hours.

[dionysus17]

2006 Median Annual Earnings of Year-Round, Full-Time Workers: All Men: $42,261. All Women: $32,515 (US Census). And it doesn't depend on career choice. Even the highest paid female executives in the US make 24% less on average than American male executives (Fortune Magazine). In fact, according to Associations Now magazine, the payment gap between male and female CEOs is increasing. BTW mothers work less hours because it's harder for them to find decent paying work than it is for men to.

[xvirus2501]

dionysus17, what your failing to mention that males are also taxed more than females. Explain that as being equal.

[seekingmiddle]

He's not against equal pay ... he opposes legislation to overrule the Supreme Court and do away with statutes

[jastheswift2]

long answers=bs