No - she can do what she wants! Who can be bothered taking their whining kids to church each week only have a priest talk shit about her .... more people should be leaving the church ....
Generally, all religions consider faith or theology or theoretical teachings or concepts to be independent of what a religious institution, like a synagogue, church, temple or mosque, practices. Why? How? Simply because those who are part of these religious centres are humans themselves and can equally err in their understanding of both faith and its practice and principles. Religious laws have been revealed in the holy books. Societies should be formed around them.
The Pope has said that the Church is not a philanthropic organisation. Yet many bishops seem bent on getting politicians elected who say they believe the gov't should provide for the general welfare. I have talked to the poor who are recieving welfare from the state. The check is equivalent to working minimum wage for 40 hours. The welfare bureaucratics are getting 3 to 4 times that amount.
Its been a great week here in Ireland. Our new priminister finally gave the pope a proper going over re: the lies, cover ups, and ongoing abuses of the catholic church in relation to innocent children. Telling him that the rule of law supercedes canon law. Not being from Ireland, you would never appreciate the control the church had on all levels of government, the police, and everyday people. The church was never questioned and we have a history of destroyed lives because of blind faith!
Unfortunately we have to remember that it is the faith of the people that perfects the institution. We cannot forget the grassroots of our faith. We might disagree with some areas of moral theology but that doesn't mean we are rejecting the dogma of our religion.
Social justice without the Judeo-Christian Tradition is intemperent and imprudent of which abortion and gay rights is the now the main concern. Pro homosexual desires is sprouting like weeds in the seminaries of the west. making the Church impotent and irrelevant. thru feminization
I checked this book out of the Library...and read it between my college classes...While some people she interviewed was inspiring...many of them are...feminist...liberals...born around the 1950's growing up through the 70's...I'm 20 now...and among my friends...This is not what Being Catholic Now is like...it's about battling abortion and answering questions of atheists and protestants...it's about not being a Cafeteria Catholic...
This generation of Catholics is more concentrated than Kerry's.
@factionxvt408x "...it's about battling abortion and answering questions of atheists and protestants"
really since when had catholism been about battling abortion and atheist. ( well ok maybe I'm not that surpirsed given how much cathliocs whinge about that issue)
Isnt it mean to be about Jesus love and forgiveness
I never said that is the only thing, but it is what me and even Fr. Barron here is working with along with many other Catholics and what I am doing now to you. This is all part of our ministry and the way we live as Catholics and what we have promised to do in receiving our Sacrament of Confirmation.
What do you mean by "meant to be about Jesus love and forgiveness"?
lol. I was afraid you'd give me a narrow answer like that. Not that it wasn't well thought out, because what you said is true. But more generally, you said he talked about Love and Forgiveness, for which all church activities is done in. Done in Love.
Also, like the apostles and fathers had to deal with the heretics of their time, so do we have to deal with opposition to Christ's body in our time...two of these include the killing of children and the atheist thought.
lol. I was afraid you'd give me a narrow answer like that. Not that it wasn't well thought out, because what you said is true. But more generally, you said he talked about Love and Forgiveness, for which all church activities is done in. Done in Love.
Also, like the apostles and fathers had to deal with the heretics of their time, so do we have to deal with opposition to Christ's body in our time...two of these include the killing of children and the atheist thought.
lol. I was afraid you'd give me a narrow answer like that. Not that it wasn't well thought out, because what you said is true. But more generally, you said he talked about Love and Forgiveness, for which all church activities is done in. Done in Love.
Also, like the apostles and fathers had to deal with the heretics of their time, so do we have to deal with opposition to Christ's body in our time...two of these include the killing of children and the atheist thought.
BTW, Jesus did have something to say about abortion. Abortion is the killing of human life. And, just because it is not written in the Bible, does not mean that it (whatever the matter is) should be answered in a way Christ would have answered...if you do not go with the times, the times will leave you behind. And that is why we have a Pope. He answers the questions of today...and it doesn't take much to say that half delivering a baby just to snap its neck is the right thing to do
Sorry for your misunderstanding, but what you have put in quotations are supposed to be two separate lines. On commenting systems, I am not formal with my use of punctuations.
What you should have connected was my first line and the second line that said Abortion is the killing of human life. Would you say Jesus was an advocate to killing innocent beings?
What I meant when I said that we must "go with the times" was that you have to keep up to date. It doesn't mean you have to conform, but there are many things that are happening today that are not Catholic, and in our ministry in the Catholic Church we have the responsibility to conserve this moral standard.
I'm getting the impression that you are defending abortion, yet you comment on what Jesus said and did not say...
Are you a Pro-Abortion Christian? Or are you an Atheist?
@factionxvt408x Atheist but I just dont get the emphais on abortion -- its seem to be the one issuse you keep hearing about...
Abortion regardless of your view was not the reason Jesus died on the cross... yet the emphasis they catholic church gives on that issuse is out of proportion to what Jesus acutally said on the subject
Abortion is an issue today that is the Catholic Church sees as a very grave offense to human life. That is why we are so outraged that this is happening. It is not a theological matter but a moral one to us. Again, in an abortion, a human life is destroyed and this can never be revoked. You can probably say we feel the same as the Jews did upon finding out that their people are being systematically killed in Nazi Germany.
Abortion is a grave sin and Christ died for all sins
It depends. There is venial and mortal sin. Mortal sin (such as abortion) stains the soul and gravely endangers one soul. (meaning that if you die in a state of mortal sin, hell is a possibility) Venial sins still stain the soul but does not put it in danger...such as a small lie. But if the lie resulted in say...death then it would be mortal.
Adultery and Abortion are equal. They are grave sins and if they are committed in full knowledge and consent then Hell is a possibility.
@factionxvt408x Oh wait I forget that catholic aren't like protestants and other christains. they acutually belive in venial and motal sins.
Is there a list of mortal sins. Who decideds what is mortal and venial -- and is there any any bible verse to support the idea of mortal and venial sins
Catholic say they are chirstains but they have very diffrenent beliefs to "mainstream" christainity
"But that the problem with relgion -- relgion can't keep up to day -- after all they do follow a 2000 year old book"
When you say that, are you implying that the Catholic Church is outdated? I think many people Christian, Atheist...many people, can agree to the 10 commandments...in peace, and harmony? To love one another? The message has not been changed wouldn't you agree?
Glad to be hearing from an atheist btw. =) protestants...ehh...difficult.
The secular world has a very poor track record of living in peace in harmony too. All of humanity has trouble living in peace and harmony. I'll admit that there are some very radical religious people and religions.
Why do you always challenge me by saying what Jesus had not said? He did not talk about computers, radio, television, internet...but does that mean that the Catholic Church should have nothing to do with them? No. He said to live in peace and harmony. No exclusions.
Lol. Okay, you got me! We should go wage war right now so then you could have something to accuse me of. LOL amirite??
You...don't understand. I do not know if I should continue this conversation with your or not. I think you are trying to get me to admit to something...something like Catholics do not want peace or truly teach peace. You deny everything I'm telling you and saying that is false.
If you want me to say catholics don't want peace then okay. we don't. But thats a lie.
"He did not talk about computers, radio, television, internet...but does that mean that the Catholic Church should have nothing to do with them"
No it means that the bible is outdated and totally irrelvant to today society.. so the catholic church has to make up its own rules to deal with things no mentioned in the bible.
You know what else is an old document? The US Constitution. Would you say that is outdated? Do you remember learning about the implied powers clause? The Bible is timeless in its message of peace and moral behavior. I'm in college right now...and we still read and discuss philosophies of the ancient classics...of the greek philosophers...what they wrote is still relevant today.
You can talk to someone else now. Upon reading this comment I decided you're not serious.
You just hate catholicism and do not want peace. You just came here to give yourself a sense of superiority and security. You're a very bitter, unlearned person.
the catholic church is the best in the world at responsibly dealing with the massive worldwide problem of sexual assault. better than any other religon and certainly better than the american public school system
@wordonfirevideo google 'Catholic Church Deaf Boys' and look at the first result, opinion please on the church and the top Vatican officials including future pope Benedict XVI who covered up the molestation of 200 hundred deaf boys
@laaaaambofgod As I have said publicly over and over again, the sexual abuse of children by some priests and its enablement by some bishops is the worst scandal in the history of the Catholic Church in America. Having said that, it's way too simplistic to say that Joseph Ratzinger "covered up" this problem. He did more than anyone in the world (and I'm not using that phrase casually) to solve the problem.
@wordonfirevideo The Wisconsin case involved an American priest, the Rev. Lawrence C. Murphy, who worked at a school for deaf children from 1950 to 1974. But it is only one of thousands of cases forwarded over decades by bishops to the Vatican office called the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, led from 1981 to 2005 by Cardinal Ratzinger. In 1996, Cardinal Ratzinger failed to respond to two letters about the case from Rembert G. Weakland.
I'm sorry but ignoring letters regarding the sexual abuse of TWO HUNDRED deaf boys is appalling, it is blatantly inexcusable, and this is FACT which means there is no debate on the matter, Ratzinger received the letters FACT did nothing FACT thus protected a raving pedophile which anyone with any sense of morality would consider evil, my question to you Father Barron is how can the Catholic faith truly recover from this whilst knowing that the leader of their religion covered for the actions/
@wordonfirevideo of Catholicism's biggest monster, would the church not benefit from acknowledging that ? By not trying to protect a man whose involvement within this scandal is solid, the followers of the Catholic faith could perhaps understand the corruption present within the Vatican and move to changing and progressing their religion.
@KnowTheBible559 very well, 1985 a letter from Vatican Office to the Oakland Diocese signed by future Pope Cardinal Ratzinger resists the request from Bishop John Cummings to defrock Rev. Stephen Kiesle after a confession was made in regards to the molestation of deaf children in Kiesle's care (FACT: THE VATICAN DOES NOT DENY THIS) the reply addressed the concern of the universal church as paramount and defrocking the priest could have negative repercussions among the areas Christian community
@laaaaambofgod Did you read the official documents of the Oakland case? Kiesle requested to be defrocked. Which would have released him out of the control of the Archbishop & would have legally put Kiesle in good standing with the Church. That is why Ratzinger ordered a postponing of the act. As head of the CDF Ratzinger didn't have authority to be dealing in such cases. The Archbishop did. Other official documents give orders for archbishops to report the act. You have presented noreal evidence
Or there was never any controversy when George Bush came to Notre Dame despite his stances on the death penalty or neglect of the poor of which the Church disagrees with. But when Obama came due to his stance on abortion there was an uproar. It seems to me to be a double standard in place. This is coming from an ex-Catholic who was turned away by some of the hostility of Catholics on only certain issues while ignoring others. If we are to condemn homosexuals why not racists, greedy bosses, ect?
When it comes to Catholicism and politics, one thing that often strikes me is the microfocus on sexuality and reproductive freedom but never the same degree of focus on other catholic positions that lean left. For example, I never heard of a politician being excommunicated for supporting the mass killings in Iraq yet the church takes an opposing stance.
--I think I'll be sick the next time someone says, "I left the church because of other people." Is that really a legitimate excuse to abandon the Body of Christ? Are people really this shallow today? Whatever happened to our commitments? We are supposed to be helping others into a deeper walk with Christ, not cowardly turning our backs on their mistakes. Too many people deal with conflicts in marriage the same way--they leave it.
@mypolicy9 There are more Catholics returning to the church currently after being away for a few years. In my local area, the return of the original low and high Latin mass at one of the area Catholic churches has become so popular that people drive hundreds from miles just to attend this particular Latin mass every Sunday. ♰
@KyrieEleison46 That's pretty cool. I was baptized 4 years ago, previously being an agnostic. Now my mother is also coming into the Church this very season, & I am her sponsor! God is great! My own journey was an outcome of my constant search for the truth, and being surrounded by the methodological skepticism employed by the very Atheist elite in Philosophical Academia. I find it very telling that the atheistic skeptical tools of the trade can lead one to the Church. All paths lead to Christ.
Your exegesis about leftist Catholic Donatists and by implication right-wing Catholic Donatists is correct. A priest’s station supersedes his personal shortcomings however there is such a thing as a heretical priest preaching heresy, i.e. disparaging or negating Catholic dogma in a church during the celebration of the Mass. There have been many priests who have openly preached against the Church’s teachings on homosexuality and abortion to name just two of the most onerous examples.
That is such an important yet overlooked point Father! There shouldn't be this wedge that you speak of. I see the de-emphasis of doctrine and liturgy and the over-emphasis of social justice and science (without proper doctrinal context) as the result of the weaking of will that is mass-produced by modernity. Hardly anyone wants for people to starve in the streets. This sentiment is easy to hold, but start discussing the discipline that discipleship requires and you'll see most scatter.
Unless I misunderstand certain passages in the Bible, those passages say that we should not desire such things such as money, or other forms of materials. Using myself as an example, what if I find myself desiring money more than anything else? What if I am not behaving as a follower? Am I not consider a Christian? I say one thing, but my actions speaks otherwise. Can you give your thoughts Father?
...[plenitudo potestatis]. See then what manner of servant this is, appointed over the household; he is indeed the vicar of Jesus Christ, the successor of St. Peter, the Christ of the Lord, the God of Pharaoh...the midpoint between God and man... who can judge all things and is judged by no one.”
-Consecration Sermon, c. 1200, see Rome Has Spoken; Granfield, Patrick, The Limits of the Papacy:Authority and Autonomy in the Church, NY:Crossroad, 1987; p. 32.
POPE INNOCENT III: “It was said to me in the prophet: “I have set you over nations and over kingdoms, to pluck up and to break down, to destroy, and to overthrow, to build and to plant”(Jer. 1:10)...Others were called to the role of caring, but only St. Peter was invested with the fullness of power ...
The claim of the RCC as the only (infallible) & true church is blatantly falacious. In 1986 in Assisi Italy,Pope J,Paul II gathered the world's religious leaders to pray for 'world peace'.There were snake worshipers,fire worshipers,animists,buddhists,hindus,muslims,north american witch doctors, presbytarians,methodists etc,pope said THEY WERE ALL PRAYING TO THE SAME GOD!! Also homosexualism, lesbianism, pedophilia etc holds sway in the enclaves of an infal. church!
In 2001, while he was a cardinal, the pope issued a secret Vatican edict to Catholic bishops all over the world, instructing them to put the Church's interests ahead of child safety. The document recommended that rather than reporting sexual abuse to the relevant legal authorities, bishops should encourage the victim, witnesses and perpetrator not to talk about it. And, to keep victims quiet, it threatened that if they repeat the allegations they would be excommunicated.
Through infant baptism, keeping sacraments, church membership, going to mass, praying to Mary, and confession (just to mention a few), the Catholic church has developed a system of salvation through WORKS. God's word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, not through works". "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Eph. 2:8-9)
So bad priests are bad priests for reasons other than their religion but they can go on preaching? Is that really what you are saying? What about the victims of their predelictions - most of them catholic children? Do they get to choose to remain within the church? Aren't the suppressed urges of catholic priests bound to find expression somewhere - however hideous? You started this discussion not I.
@bigguitar22 A study of the New Testament reveals that all Christians are priests. Peter said, "Be you yourselves as living stones, built thereon into a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ." (1 Pet. 2:5). Thus, all Christians are of that holy priesthood and can offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.There is not a man or group of men on earth who can offer unto God spiritual sacrifices for others.
@kiwichristian2009 More nonsense. Which study reveals the fact that all Christians are priests? Quoting the bible at me is pointless. You may accept it as the word of god - I read it as a work of fiction written by men. I really dont know what point you are trying to make - I dont think you know either!
Father Barron has banned my account from his videos. I invite anyone and everyone to look over ALL of my posts and decide whether I have written ANYTHING anti-social (profanity, hate speech, etc.) or whether I have been forced into silence simply because I voice my naturalistic/agnostic view. In case I am banned again, my argument is simply that an 'uncaused cause' does not logically lead to the specific "knowledge" (heaven, resurrection, etc.) that religion claims.
@leighgridley2 Catholics are good at putting the "anti-catholic" label on people far too quickly. Particularly when they cannot back anything up with biblical facts.
Only primitive beings go following this so called deep desire to worship a creator.The main issue being that as each of those organized creed get organized & develop complex liturgies, based on DOGMAS, ridiculous explanations for creation, absurd mythological allegories like Immaculate conception, or hypocritical rules from prophets such as Islam, or selfish beliefs like the Jews' claim of being "chosen" inevitably make their IRRECONCILABLE absurdities generate crusades, Jihads & so much pain!
HOW do you justify the crimes committed by your churches- the inquisition - murdering millions of innocent individuals... the Buring of whiches - Giordano Bruno. You are HIPOCRITES who sold the pardon of an absurde divine being... as claimed by books writen by barabaric primitives, whose contents were duly modified by corrupt, even Medieval scholars. The only reason you are not calling for cruzades like the barbaric Muslins, is due to the separation of church & state in the West. Religion=MURDER
@AugustusAurelianus Thanks for that balanced, reasoned respons!. You've been well trained in the Hitchens-Dawkins school of hysterical anti-Catholic ranting.
@wordonfirevideo I beg your pardon, Milord. I fear that it may be require that I make yet another passing remark vis-a-vis the contents of your reply. While I do know your church better than all others, by virtue of my compelled indoctrination as a child in a catholic family, your claim that my position is Anti-Catholic appears as self-centered in extreme. RATHER, my position is rather ANTI-RELIGION, for my logical conclusions, my strict adherence to scientific tenets refutes ALL of modern myths
@wordonfirevideo City University of New York & Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro. Furthermore, I would like to appraise you of my EXCEEDINGLY eclectic, multinational & multi-discipline background (I am dual citizen of Brazil & USA) and have resided in Paris, Frankfurt & Santiago de Chile, Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro & New York City. A political scientist & historian with experience in Chemistry & International business & fascination for Cosmology. No place for modern mythology in my life.
@wordonfirevideo Furthermore Milord, might I indulge you with my opinion that despite any course in logic, there are various INTRINSIC truths which Advanced Sentient beings automatically conclude on their own? I told my family that I knew that Sta.Claus did not exist at the age of 6. At the age of 10 the rigors of catholicism became overwhelming. Learning History, comparing the absurd disparities of a multitude of ancient & modern CONTRASTING mythologies sufficed for my conclusions & repulsion
@wordonfirevideo Is that the best response you can come up with? Go to your library and look up the catholic inquisition and then tell me that the roman catholic "church" is NOT responsible for the torture and murder of millions of innocent Christians.
@kiwichristian2009 Pastor Fred Phelps and his Westboro Baptist Church have been responsible for spreading hate speech all across America. Does this mean that all Protestants or all Baptists are bad because some of them have done some bad things? I'm just going by your logic. Some church leaders did bad things, therefore the entire church and all its members are bad. I'd love to know which perfect church you belong to that is immune to your criticism.
@backwoodsninja My Friend. Mr Phelps does not claim to be the "vicar of Christ" ( ie: Christs' replacement on earth ) Nor is he the head of an international religious organisation. He does not DARE refer to himself as "another Christ on earth"
@backwoodsninja Pope Nicholas assumed the title of God. His words are:—‘I am all in all and above all, so that God Himself, and I, the Vicar of God, hath both one consistory, and I am able to do almost all that God can do . . . Wherefore, if those things that I do be said not to be done of man, but of God. WHAT CAN YOU MAKE ME BUT GOD? " See Decret. Par Distinct 96 Ch. 7 Edit Lugd. 1661
@kiwichristian2009 I searched for this document online. All I could find was quotes from anti-Catholic websites. May I ask, did you read this from the source document or was it quoted somewhere else? I hold that even if Pope Nicholas said such a thing, it would not refute Catholicism. It would only prove that some Catholic leaders have said some controversial things, just like some Protestant leaders have. Still, I want to know where you found this quote.
@backwoodsninja "The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth...by divine right the Pope has supreme and full power in faith, in morals over each and every pastor and his flock. He is the true vicar, the head of the entire church, the father and teacher of all Christians. He is the infallible ruler, the founder of dogmas, the author of and the judge of councils; the universal ruler of truth, the arbiter of the world,..
@backwoodsninja ... the supreme judge of heaven and earth, the judge of all, being judged by no one, God himself on earth." Quoted in the New York Catechism. Father A. Pereira says: "It is quite certain that Popes have never approved or rejected this title 'Lord God the Pope,' for the passage in the gloss referred to appears in the edition of the Canon Law published in Rome in 1580 by Gregory XIII." Writers on the Canon Law say, "The Pope and God are the same, "
@knight91105 Amen. The main problem here is that the roman catholic "church" is the only organization that has offered peverts of every stripe and pedophiles in particular a career, protection and access to children. Over time this has led to more and more perverts being attracted to the Church.
Fr. Barron seems like an awesome priest who is Faithful to Catholic Teaching (that's what makes him awesome!). Kerry Kennedy, on the other hand, needs a spiritual slap in the face so she can come out of the spell that she's in and once again find The One True Faith of the Catholic Church ...
@ChristianFirefighter Well, although I shall never agree with him (or you) on most issues, I will concurr that Mr. Barron appears to be a balanced, educated, and unimposing individual, whose quality, character and (apparent) decency & integrity far surpasses his "colleagues" and is infinitely superior to the overwhelming majority of those evil, corrupt, and even murderous clerics who once occupied equivalent and superior positions in the long History of the Catholic Church in Europe.
The book is code for "support democrats despite abortion". How these once-great social justice advocates could become apologists for the mass murder of children is horrifying.
@jamesy15 This is called: HYPOCRISY, inconsistency, along with some remnants of rudimentary (I will give them "that much") human piety, empathy & comfort to someone about to expire (living being a world where he/she has learned about all these horrors which allegedly would await him/her in the after life). The truth of the matter, in my modest opinion it represents an irrelevant ceremony at a time when the energy (so called soul) that made the dying body function, is about to be transformed.
thanks Fr. Barron. i always enjoy your videos. they're exciting AND informative. i read this book and see what you mean. i think the Catholic Church is the institution that encourages a culture of life, truth, faith, and love. but it also tells us to distinguish bw/ the sin and the sinner. the Catholic Church may have committed horrible atrocities, but is still true and good fundamentally. Jesus saw the thieves, tax collectors, and prostitutes as worthy ppl, but condemned their sins. thanks!!!!
One day St. Francis de Sales saw a seminarian's guardian angel, walk in front of the seminarian and other times walk beside him. But after the seminarian was ordained he saw the angel always walking behind the new priest! St. Francisof Asissi who, when a priest who was living in sin, was brought to him, in the hope that he would reprimand him, knelt down and kissed the priests hands reverently. Respect our priests. No priest - no Mass - no Church. - Blessings - Rene
All religions are the breeders of hate, violence, slavery, wars, ETC, and responsible for more murders than all other causes combined. It is sad. I believe in science and what can be proved via various methods such quantum physics, string theory, and science. It is so sad! God is real and if God could say any one thing to us he would say you got me all wrong! It's All brain washing for control and money!
Frankly, I am more concerned with the donatism of the right wing of the Church which contends that unless you accept the Church's current view on abortion YOU MUST get up and leave the Church. See Bishop Ronald Gainer, Bishop Joe Martino, Bishop Vasa & wacky Fr. Perozich.
I actually agree with you regarding the Donatism of the right. Such a phenomenon exists. But I wouldn't tie it to abortion, for the direct taking of the life of the innocent is the great moral non-negotiable. Even the more moderate proportionalists hold to that.
I have always wondered about the Church's current uncompromising stand on abortion given the Biblical silence on the matter. As we know, Augustine in Enchiridion did not equate abortion of an unformed fetus with murder. Gratian's code included the canon Aliquando, which concluded that "abortion was homicide only when the fetus was formed." One wonders why the modern Church affords so much protection to a 100 cell blastocyst.
wordonfirevideo "That 100 cell blastocyst is, human." not only that. We as humans have a Chem field that's thought to be a driving force behind consciousness. We have this Chem field from the moment of conception to the moment of death. So, the baby is not only human, but he or she has a form of consciousness from the moment of conception. Paramecium are single celled orginisms that exibit elementary forms of consciousness. They niether sow nor reep; we are worth more to God than they.
@mespo727272 Surely the eventual introduction of abortion, or banning of marriage of priests (causing an array of never ending sexual abuse all over the world-just to tip of an iceberg, by the way), along with deliberate shedding of "Biblical Books - such as the book of Judas Iscariot, the denigration of Mary Magdalene as a prostitute - ALL served the personal purposes of one individual or another during the Middle Ages - when Ignorance, dogma & totalitarian rule by edicts created new "truths"
I enjoyed this lecture, Father Barron. Our Church has the big task of going back to its spiritual roots to recover the glory and the standing before the secular world... How come a Catholic politician votes for abortion on demand and then goes to communion? In this moral wasteland, these lectures are an oases.
Great video. I had similar thoughts when I sat down and read through the book. It seems that for people like Kennedy, I get the impression that Catholicism is more of an arm of her politics than her politics being an arm of her Catholicism. So things become backwards. Also, don't even get me started on Susan Sarandon's chapter. I almost threw up!
Great video. I had similar thoughts when I sat down and read through the book. It seems that for people like Kennedy, I get the impression that Catholicism is more of an arm of her politics than her politics being an arm of her Catholicism. So things become backwards. Also, don't even get me started on Susan Sarandon's chapter. I almost threw up!
The bible (Word of God)& the Holy Spirit- inspires justice, NOT denominational doctrine. You are a good teacher and I salute you, I just slightly disagree with some of your statements. But you may disagree with some of my thoughts. Continue to do what God has called you to do (Inn Humilty).
Oh come on! You can't find doctrines such as the incarnation, Trinity, original sin, redemption, justification, and the necessity of the church in the Bible? You're proving my point: it is dangerous indeed to drive a wedge between justice and the doctrines of the church.
Thanks. You've proven my point and undermined your own! I quarreled with your statement that the Bible is not about doctrine but social justice. I have a feeling there's been some failure to communicate here!
I have no problem if you disagree with some of my thoughts, as I disagree with some of yours. But the way you have replied (with the spirit of pride and lack of humilty), shows that you are not operating in Love. Which is the GREATEST gift God gives the church! (1Cor. 13).
-I believe God has blessed you with great insight and that you are called to be a great teacher, but don't get caught in your own cleverness.(Job 5:13)
You can't divorce Truth from Love. Truth without love is cold. Love without truth is meaningless. Without an objective foundation, you run the risk of slipping into nihilism.
umm... I think Fr was expaining to you that the Catholic doctines are all found in the bible - which you then provided references for - when you originally said that the bible did not inspire doctrine.
soo... you refuted yourself and did infact prove Fr's point.
try reading your comments again... you should take your own advice to others.
FarmersMinistry-Per your first comment, I suspected you were either a lifelong protestant or someone who left the Catholic Church. I checked your website and( sure enough) you are the former. BTW,I think you are the only one who is reading pride and lack of humility into comments here. If you want to challenge someone's position, how about doing so on it's merits and not play the attack game?
...I recommend that anyone who wants to learn about Catholicism use the Didache Series available thru Midwest Theological Forum. The art work in these books is amazing! This series of texts provide solid doctrine in a well written format. I do not think these books will foster social justice Catholics!
The root of and solution to the problem of separating the Institutional Church from faith, is instruction in Church history & the basics of the Faith. Unfortunately, the institutional Church (pastors and at least one bishop that I approached, were not interested in providing adult ed).
if you'd like to know about the mindset of the kennedy clan is read about the grandfather who stole from the poor irish in order to get rich for himself........
when they repay our black brethren for slavery, the irish should file suit next vs. the kennedy clan......
can't wait to see what damage dear caroline does in the senate....
Didn't the breakaway protestant church largely come about due to the effects of the great plague forcing the church of Rome to drop its priest training and ordainment standards? (Did the celibacy of the priesthood and the ban on women priests directives come down the mountain with Moses?)
Yes! This is exactly how I felt as well. I don't understand why some are putting a wedge between the fruitful faith and the Holy Church that the faith itself comes from. It's so odd to me.
If I want to know about "being catholic now," i think i'd rather read something by pope benedict xvi. I was interested in picking the book up, but now i don't think i'd like to give my money to the kennedy's. speaking of pope benedict xvi, i think fr. barron ought to do a video commentary on one of his books, like Jesus of Nazareth....
No - she can do what she wants! Who can be bothered taking their whining kids to church each week only have a priest talk shit about her .... more people should be leaving the church ....
kennyinliverpool 1 week ago
Generally, all religions consider faith or theology or theoretical teachings or concepts to be independent of what a religious institution, like a synagogue, church, temple or mosque, practices. Why? How? Simply because those who are part of these religious centres are humans themselves and can equally err in their understanding of both faith and its practice and principles. Religious laws have been revealed in the holy books. Societies should be formed around them.
sidrahsiddiqui 4 months ago
The Pope has said that the Church is not a philanthropic organisation. Yet many bishops seem bent on getting politicians elected who say they believe the gov't should provide for the general welfare. I have talked to the poor who are recieving welfare from the state. The check is equivalent to working minimum wage for 40 hours. The welfare bureaucratics are getting 3 to 4 times that amount.
vkorchnoifan 6 months ago
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Its been a great week here in Ireland. Our new priminister finally gave the pope a proper going over re: the lies, cover ups, and ongoing abuses of the catholic church in relation to innocent children. Telling him that the rule of law supercedes canon law. Not being from Ireland, you would never appreciate the control the church had on all levels of government, the police, and everyday people. The church was never questioned and we have a history of destroyed lives because of blind faith!
newfrontier01 7 months ago
Typical liberal Catholics. They only care about the material needs of people and forget the spiritual
bpolacek89 7 months ago
Unfortunately we have to remember that it is the faith of the people that perfects the institution. We cannot forget the grassroots of our faith. We might disagree with some areas of moral theology but that doesn't mean we are rejecting the dogma of our religion.
ilMazina 7 months ago
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clintmmartin 8 months ago
Social justice without the Judeo-Christian Tradition is intemperent and imprudent of which abortion and gay rights is the now the main concern. Pro homosexual desires is sprouting like weeds in the seminaries of the west. making the Church impotent and irrelevant. thru feminization
vkorchnoifan 8 months ago
Sadly, some Catholics wear "Catholicism" as a party or identity as opposed to living and learning the faith.
xukeith33 8 months ago
I checked this book out of the Library...and read it between my college classes...While some people she interviewed was inspiring...many of them are...feminist...liberals...born around the 1950's growing up through the 70's...I'm 20 now...and among my friends...This is not what Being Catholic Now is like...it's about battling abortion and answering questions of atheists and protestants...it's about not being a Cafeteria Catholic...
This generation of Catholics is more concentrated than Kerry's.
factionxvt408x 10 months ago
@factionxvt408x "...it's about battling abortion and answering questions of atheists and protestants"
really since when had catholism been about battling abortion and atheist. ( well ok maybe I'm not that surpirsed given how much cathliocs whinge about that issue)
Isnt it mean to be about Jesus love and forgiveness
badpanda84 10 months ago
@badpanda84
I never said that is the only thing, but it is what me and even Fr. Barron here is working with along with many other Catholics and what I am doing now to you. This is all part of our ministry and the way we live as Catholics and what we have promised to do in receiving our Sacrament of Confirmation.
What do you mean by "meant to be about Jesus love and forgiveness"?
factionxvt408x 10 months ago
@factionxvt408x Jesus said alot about " let he without sin cast the first stone" and spoke alot about the pharaises and hypocrites
Jesus said nothing about abortion or athiests
badpanda84 9 months ago
@badpanda84
lol. I was afraid you'd give me a narrow answer like that. Not that it wasn't well thought out, because what you said is true. But more generally, you said he talked about Love and Forgiveness, for which all church activities is done in. Done in Love.
Also, like the apostles and fathers had to deal with the heretics of their time, so do we have to deal with opposition to Christ's body in our time...two of these include the killing of children and the atheist thought.
factionxvt408x 9 months ago
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lol. I was afraid you'd give me a narrow answer like that. Not that it wasn't well thought out, because what you said is true. But more generally, you said he talked about Love and Forgiveness, for which all church activities is done in. Done in Love.
Also, like the apostles and fathers had to deal with the heretics of their time, so do we have to deal with opposition to Christ's body in our time...two of these include the killing of children and the atheist thought.
factionxvt408x 9 months ago
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lol. I was afraid you'd give me a narrow answer like that. Not that it wasn't well thought out, because what you said is true. But more generally, you said he talked about Love and Forgiveness, for which all church activities is done in. Done in Love.
Also, like the apostles and fathers had to deal with the heretics of their time, so do we have to deal with opposition to Christ's body in our time...two of these include the killing of children and the atheist thought.
factionxvt408x 9 months ago
@badpanda84
BTW, Jesus did have something to say about abortion. Abortion is the killing of human life. And, just because it is not written in the Bible, does not mean that it (whatever the matter is) should be answered in a way Christ would have answered...if you do not go with the times, the times will leave you behind. And that is why we have a Pope. He answers the questions of today...and it doesn't take much to say that half delivering a baby just to snap its neck is the right thing to do
factionxvt408x 9 months ago
@factionxvt408x Not he didnt -- Jesus never said a single word about abortion --
"Christ would have answered...if you do not go with the times, the times will leave you behind"
That is a very intersting comment from a catholic --- sound more like something a secularist or atheist would say.
Of course catholic also claim there are absoulte moral -- but clearly you can "go with the times" and claim to have absoulte morals
badpanda84 9 months ago
@badpanda84
Sorry for your misunderstanding, but what you have put in quotations are supposed to be two separate lines. On commenting systems, I am not formal with my use of punctuations.
What you should have connected was my first line and the second line that said Abortion is the killing of human life. Would you say Jesus was an advocate to killing innocent beings?
factionxvt408x 9 months ago
@badpanda84
What I meant when I said that we must "go with the times" was that you have to keep up to date. It doesn't mean you have to conform, but there are many things that are happening today that are not Catholic, and in our ministry in the Catholic Church we have the responsibility to conserve this moral standard.
I'm getting the impression that you are defending abortion, yet you comment on what Jesus said and did not say...
Are you a Pro-Abortion Christian? Or are you an Atheist?
factionxvt408x 9 months ago
@factionxvt408x Atheist but I just dont get the emphais on abortion -- its seem to be the one issuse you keep hearing about...
Abortion regardless of your view was not the reason Jesus died on the cross... yet the emphasis they catholic church gives on that issuse is out of proportion to what Jesus acutally said on the subject
badpanda84 9 months ago
@badpanda84
Abortion is an issue today that is the Catholic Church sees as a very grave offense to human life. That is why we are so outraged that this is happening. It is not a theological matter but a moral one to us. Again, in an abortion, a human life is destroyed and this can never be revoked. You can probably say we feel the same as the Jews did upon finding out that their people are being systematically killed in Nazi Germany.
Abortion is a grave sin and Christ died for all sins
factionxvt408x 9 months ago
@factionxvt408x But is abortion a greater sin that say adulatry or telling a lie according to catholic
badpanda84 9 months ago
@badpanda84
It depends. There is venial and mortal sin. Mortal sin (such as abortion) stains the soul and gravely endangers one soul. (meaning that if you die in a state of mortal sin, hell is a possibility) Venial sins still stain the soul but does not put it in danger...such as a small lie. But if the lie resulted in say...death then it would be mortal.
Adultery and Abortion are equal. They are grave sins and if they are committed in full knowledge and consent then Hell is a possibility.
factionxvt408x 9 months ago
@factionxvt408x Oh wait I forget that catholic aren't like protestants and other christains. they acutually belive in venial and motal sins.
Is there a list of mortal sins. Who decideds what is mortal and venial -- and is there any any bible verse to support the idea of mortal and venial sins
Catholic say they are chirstains but they have very diffrenent beliefs to "mainstream" christainity
badpanda84 9 months ago
@factionxvt408x "What I meant when I said that we must "go with the times" was that you have to keep up to date"
But that the problem with relgion -- relgion can't keep up to day -- after all they do follow a 2000 year old book
badpanda84 9 months ago
@badpanda84
"But that the problem with relgion -- relgion can't keep up to day -- after all they do follow a 2000 year old book"
When you say that, are you implying that the Catholic Church is outdated? I think many people Christian, Atheist...many people, can agree to the 10 commandments...in peace, and harmony? To love one another? The message has not been changed wouldn't you agree?
Glad to be hearing from an atheist btw. =) protestants...ehh...difficult.
factionxvt408x 9 months ago
@factionxvt408x "...in peace, and harmony? To love one another? The message has not been changed wouldn't you agree?"
yet relgion has had a very poor track record of living in "peace and harmony"
Of course Jesus never said you must respect and tolrate other faiths.. and live in peace and harmony with other relgions.
badpanda84 9 months ago
@badpanda84
The secular world has a very poor track record of living in peace in harmony too. All of humanity has trouble living in peace and harmony. I'll admit that there are some very radical religious people and religions.
Why do you always challenge me by saying what Jesus had not said? He did not talk about computers, radio, television, internet...but does that mean that the Catholic Church should have nothing to do with them? No. He said to live in peace and harmony. No exclusions.
factionxvt408x 9 months ago
@factionxvt408x "No. He said to live in peace and harmony. No exclusions."
No he didn't -- where did he said that. Jesus never said " co-exist and tolerate other people's relgions. "
You only think Jesus said that but he didnt
badpanda84 9 months ago
@badpanda84
Lol. Okay, you got me! We should go wage war right now so then you could have something to accuse me of. LOL amirite??
You...don't understand. I do not know if I should continue this conversation with your or not. I think you are trying to get me to admit to something...something like Catholics do not want peace or truly teach peace. You deny everything I'm telling you and saying that is false.
If you want me to say catholics don't want peace then okay. we don't. But thats a lie.
factionxvt408x 9 months ago
@badpanda84
Does 84 stand for 1984? making you about 27ish about now? I think a person of that age would be able to pick up with is implied in what Jesus said.
factionxvt408x 9 months ago
"He did not talk about computers, radio, television, internet...but does that mean that the Catholic Church should have nothing to do with them"
No it means that the bible is outdated and totally irrelvant to today society.. so the catholic church has to make up its own rules to deal with things no mentioned in the bible.
badpanda84 9 months ago
@badpanda84
You know what else is an old document? The US Constitution. Would you say that is outdated? Do you remember learning about the implied powers clause? The Bible is timeless in its message of peace and moral behavior. I'm in college right now...and we still read and discuss philosophies of the ancient classics...of the greek philosophers...what they wrote is still relevant today.
You can talk to someone else now. Upon reading this comment I decided you're not serious.
factionxvt408x 9 months ago
@badpanda84
You just hate catholicism and do not want peace. You just came here to give yourself a sense of superiority and security. You're a very bitter, unlearned person.
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HAHAHAHA!
factionxvt408x 9 months ago
@factionxvt408x Well peace isnt going to come from relgion is it.. Its like saying Islam is a relgion of peace.. no one really belives that
badpanda84 9 months ago
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badpanda84 9 months ago
i have now seen all 179 videos, that was a good week's worth of free time well spent :)
kevinjjfr 11 months ago 6
@kevinjjfr Wow! I think you deserve the Word on Fire award. Thanks for spending so much time with my videos.
wordonfirevideo 10 months ago 5
@wordonfirevideo haha, sounds good to me, but i'll settle for more videos in the future. :)
kevinjjfr 10 months ago
the catholic church is the best in the world at responsibly dealing with the massive worldwide problem of sexual assault. better than any other religon and certainly better than the american public school system
ned262626 1 year ago 2
@wordonfirevideo google 'Catholic Church Deaf Boys' and look at the first result, opinion please on the church and the top Vatican officials including future pope Benedict XVI who covered up the molestation of 200 hundred deaf boys
laaaaambofgod 1 year ago
@laaaaambofgod As I have said publicly over and over again, the sexual abuse of children by some priests and its enablement by some bishops is the worst scandal in the history of the Catholic Church in America. Having said that, it's way too simplistic to say that Joseph Ratzinger "covered up" this problem. He did more than anyone in the world (and I'm not using that phrase casually) to solve the problem.
wordonfirevideo 1 year ago 13
@wordonfirevideo The Wisconsin case involved an American priest, the Rev. Lawrence C. Murphy, who worked at a school for deaf children from 1950 to 1974. But it is only one of thousands of cases forwarded over decades by bishops to the Vatican office called the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, led from 1981 to 2005 by Cardinal Ratzinger. In 1996, Cardinal Ratzinger failed to respond to two letters about the case from Rembert G. Weakland.
laaaaambofgod 1 year ago
I'm sorry but ignoring letters regarding the sexual abuse of TWO HUNDRED deaf boys is appalling, it is blatantly inexcusable, and this is FACT which means there is no debate on the matter, Ratzinger received the letters FACT did nothing FACT thus protected a raving pedophile which anyone with any sense of morality would consider evil, my question to you Father Barron is how can the Catholic faith truly recover from this whilst knowing that the leader of their religion covered for the actions/
laaaaambofgod 1 year ago
@wordonfirevideo of Catholicism's biggest monster, would the church not benefit from acknowledging that ? By not trying to protect a man whose involvement within this scandal is solid, the followers of the Catholic faith could perhaps understand the corruption present within the Vatican and move to changing and progressing their religion.
laaaaambofgod 1 year ago
@laaaaambofgod --the Pope never covered up any scandal; you are buying into anti-catholic media propaganda.
KnowTheBible559 1 year ago
@KnowTheBible559 no I've done my research you are simply blinded by faith
laaaaambofgod 1 year ago
@laaaaambofgod --feel free to post any evidence, such as the popes instruction to bishops not to report abusive priests.
KnowTheBible559 1 year ago
@KnowTheBible559 very well, 1985 a letter from Vatican Office to the Oakland Diocese signed by future Pope Cardinal Ratzinger resists the request from Bishop John Cummings to defrock Rev. Stephen Kiesle after a confession was made in regards to the molestation of deaf children in Kiesle's care (FACT: THE VATICAN DOES NOT DENY THIS) the reply addressed the concern of the universal church as paramount and defrocking the priest could have negative repercussions among the areas Christian community
laaaaambofgod 1 year ago
@laaaaambofgod Did you read the official documents of the Oakland case? Kiesle requested to be defrocked. Which would have released him out of the control of the Archbishop & would have legally put Kiesle in good standing with the Church. That is why Ratzinger ordered a postponing of the act. As head of the CDF Ratzinger didn't have authority to be dealing in such cases. The Archbishop did. Other official documents give orders for archbishops to report the act. You have presented noreal evidence
metalnecromancer 10 months ago
Or there was never any controversy when George Bush came to Notre Dame despite his stances on the death penalty or neglect of the poor of which the Church disagrees with. But when Obama came due to his stance on abortion there was an uproar. It seems to me to be a double standard in place. This is coming from an ex-Catholic who was turned away by some of the hostility of Catholics on only certain issues while ignoring others. If we are to condemn homosexuals why not racists, greedy bosses, ect?
queerveganliberal 1 year ago
When it comes to Catholicism and politics, one thing that often strikes me is the microfocus on sexuality and reproductive freedom but never the same degree of focus on other catholic positions that lean left. For example, I never heard of a politician being excommunicated for supporting the mass killings in Iraq yet the church takes an opposing stance.
queerveganliberal 1 year ago
@wordonfirevideo
--I think I'll be sick the next time someone says, "I left the church because of other people." Is that really a legitimate excuse to abandon the Body of Christ? Are people really this shallow today? Whatever happened to our commitments? We are supposed to be helping others into a deeper walk with Christ, not cowardly turning our backs on their mistakes. Too many people deal with conflicts in marriage the same way--they leave it.
mypolicy9 1 year ago
@mypolicy9 There are more Catholics returning to the church currently after being away for a few years. In my local area, the return of the original low and high Latin mass at one of the area Catholic churches has become so popular that people drive hundreds from miles just to attend this particular Latin mass every Sunday. ♰
KyrieEleison46 1 year ago
@KyrieEleison46 That's pretty cool. I was baptized 4 years ago, previously being an agnostic. Now my mother is also coming into the Church this very season, & I am her sponsor! God is great! My own journey was an outcome of my constant search for the truth, and being surrounded by the methodological skepticism employed by the very Atheist elite in Philosophical Academia. I find it very telling that the atheistic skeptical tools of the trade can lead one to the Church. All paths lead to Christ.
mypolicy9 1 year ago
@mypolicy9 That is truly beautiful. Thank you very much for sharing that with me. God Bless you and your mother. ♰
KyrieEleison46 1 year ago
Your exegesis about leftist Catholic Donatists and by implication right-wing Catholic Donatists is correct. A priest’s station supersedes his personal shortcomings however there is such a thing as a heretical priest preaching heresy, i.e. disparaging or negating Catholic dogma in a church during the celebration of the Mass. There have been many priests who have openly preached against the Church’s teachings on homosexuality and abortion to name just two of the most onerous examples.
Urracaaaa 1 year ago
That is such an important yet overlooked point Father! There shouldn't be this wedge that you speak of. I see the de-emphasis of doctrine and liturgy and the over-emphasis of social justice and science (without proper doctrinal context) as the result of the weaking of will that is mass-produced by modernity. Hardly anyone wants for people to starve in the streets. This sentiment is easy to hold, but start discussing the discipline that discipleship requires and you'll see most scatter.
SAINThoodSEEKER 1 year ago
Unless I misunderstand certain passages in the Bible, those passages say that we should not desire such things such as money, or other forms of materials. Using myself as an example, what if I find myself desiring money more than anything else? What if I am not behaving as a follower? Am I not consider a Christian? I say one thing, but my actions speaks otherwise. Can you give your thoughts Father?
gamness 1 year ago
...[plenitudo potestatis]. See then what manner of servant this is, appointed over the household; he is indeed the vicar of Jesus Christ, the successor of St. Peter, the Christ of the Lord, the God of Pharaoh...the midpoint between God and man... who can judge all things and is judged by no one.”
-Consecration Sermon, c. 1200, see Rome Has Spoken; Granfield, Patrick, The Limits of the Papacy:Authority and Autonomy in the Church, NY:Crossroad, 1987; p. 32.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
POPE INNOCENT III: “It was said to me in the prophet: “I have set you over nations and over kingdoms, to pluck up and to break down, to destroy, and to overthrow, to build and to plant”(Jer. 1:10)...Others were called to the role of caring, but only St. Peter was invested with the fullness of power ...
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
FAMOUS BENEDICTINE CANONIST: "The pope can do all things God can do." - Nicolaus de Tudeschis [1386-1445], "Commentaria" (lvi, 34)
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
The claim of the RCC as the only (infallible) & true church is blatantly falacious. In 1986 in Assisi Italy,Pope J,Paul II gathered the world's religious leaders to pray for 'world peace'.There were snake worshipers,fire worshipers,animists,buddhists,hindus,muslims,north american witch doctors, presbytarians,methodists etc,pope said THEY WERE ALL PRAYING TO THE SAME GOD!! Also homosexualism, lesbianism, pedophilia etc holds sway in the enclaves of an infal. church!
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
In 2001, while he was a cardinal, the pope issued a secret Vatican edict to Catholic bishops all over the world, instructing them to put the Church's interests ahead of child safety. The document recommended that rather than reporting sexual abuse to the relevant legal authorities, bishops should encourage the victim, witnesses and perpetrator not to talk about it. And, to keep victims quiet, it threatened that if they repeat the allegations they would be excommunicated.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
Through infant baptism, keeping sacraments, church membership, going to mass, praying to Mary, and confession (just to mention a few), the Catholic church has developed a system of salvation through WORKS. God's word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, not through works". "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Eph. 2:8-9)
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
So bad priests are bad priests for reasons other than their religion but they can go on preaching? Is that really what you are saying? What about the victims of their predelictions - most of them catholic children? Do they get to choose to remain within the church? Aren't the suppressed urges of catholic priests bound to find expression somewhere - however hideous? You started this discussion not I.
bigguitar22 1 year ago
@bigguitar22 A study of the New Testament reveals that all Christians are priests. Peter said, "Be you yourselves as living stones, built thereon into a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ." (1 Pet. 2:5). Thus, all Christians are of that holy priesthood and can offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.There is not a man or group of men on earth who can offer unto God spiritual sacrifices for others.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 More nonsense. Which study reveals the fact that all Christians are priests? Quoting the bible at me is pointless. You may accept it as the word of god - I read it as a work of fiction written by men. I really dont know what point you are trying to make - I dont think you know either!
bigguitar22 1 year ago
@bigguitar22 Then i will not bother. I was merely saying that those that are referred to as "priests" are nothing of the sort. They are liars.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
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leighgridley2 1 year ago
@leighgridley2 Catholics are good at putting the "anti-catholic" label on people far too quickly. Particularly when they cannot back anything up with biblical facts.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
Only primitive beings go following this so called deep desire to worship a creator.The main issue being that as each of those organized creed get organized & develop complex liturgies, based on DOGMAS, ridiculous explanations for creation, absurd mythological allegories like Immaculate conception, or hypocritical rules from prophets such as Islam, or selfish beliefs like the Jews' claim of being "chosen" inevitably make their IRRECONCILABLE absurdities generate crusades, Jihads & so much pain!
AugustusAurelianus 1 year ago
HOW do you justify the crimes committed by your churches- the inquisition - murdering millions of innocent individuals... the Buring of whiches - Giordano Bruno. You are HIPOCRITES who sold the pardon of an absurde divine being... as claimed by books writen by barabaric primitives, whose contents were duly modified by corrupt, even Medieval scholars. The only reason you are not calling for cruzades like the barbaric Muslins, is due to the separation of church & state in the West. Religion=MURDER
AugustusAurelianus 1 year ago
@AugustusAurelianus Thanks for that balanced, reasoned respons!. You've been well trained in the Hitchens-Dawkins school of hysterical anti-Catholic ranting.
wordonfirevideo 1 year ago 4
@wordonfirevideo I beg your pardon, Milord. I fear that it may be require that I make yet another passing remark vis-a-vis the contents of your reply. While I do know your church better than all others, by virtue of my compelled indoctrination as a child in a catholic family, your claim that my position is Anti-Catholic appears as self-centered in extreme. RATHER, my position is rather ANTI-RELIGION, for my logical conclusions, my strict adherence to scientific tenets refutes ALL of modern myths
AugustusAurelianus 1 year ago
@AugustusAurelianus Logical? Where in the world did you study logic?!
wordonfirevideo 1 year ago
@wordonfirevideo City University of New York & Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro. Furthermore, I would like to appraise you of my EXCEEDINGLY eclectic, multinational & multi-discipline background (I am dual citizen of Brazil & USA) and have resided in Paris, Frankfurt & Santiago de Chile, Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro & New York City. A political scientist & historian with experience in Chemistry & International business & fascination for Cosmology. No place for modern mythology in my life.
AugustusAurelianus 1 year ago
@wordonfirevideo Furthermore Milord, might I indulge you with my opinion that despite any course in logic, there are various INTRINSIC truths which Advanced Sentient beings automatically conclude on their own? I told my family that I knew that Sta.Claus did not exist at the age of 6. At the age of 10 the rigors of catholicism became overwhelming. Learning History, comparing the absurd disparities of a multitude of ancient & modern CONTRASTING mythologies sufficed for my conclusions & repulsion
AugustusAurelianus 1 year ago
@wordonfirevideo Is that the best response you can come up with? Go to your library and look up the catholic inquisition and then tell me that the roman catholic "church" is NOT responsible for the torture and murder of millions of innocent Christians.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 Pastor Fred Phelps and his Westboro Baptist Church have been responsible for spreading hate speech all across America. Does this mean that all Protestants or all Baptists are bad because some of them have done some bad things? I'm just going by your logic. Some church leaders did bad things, therefore the entire church and all its members are bad. I'd love to know which perfect church you belong to that is immune to your criticism.
backwoodsninja 1 year ago
@backwoodsninja My Friend. Mr Phelps does not claim to be the "vicar of Christ" ( ie: Christs' replacement on earth ) Nor is he the head of an international religious organisation. He does not DARE refer to himself as "another Christ on earth"
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@backwoodsninja Pope Nicholas assumed the title of God. His words are:—‘I am all in all and above all, so that God Himself, and I, the Vicar of God, hath both one consistory, and I am able to do almost all that God can do . . . Wherefore, if those things that I do be said not to be done of man, but of God. WHAT CAN YOU MAKE ME BUT GOD? " See Decret. Par Distinct 96 Ch. 7 Edit Lugd. 1661
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 I searched for this document online. All I could find was quotes from anti-Catholic websites. May I ask, did you read this from the source document or was it quoted somewhere else? I hold that even if Pope Nicholas said such a thing, it would not refute Catholicism. It would only prove that some Catholic leaders have said some controversial things, just like some Protestant leaders have. Still, I want to know where you found this quote.
backwoodsninja 1 year ago
@backwoodsninja "The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earth...by divine right the Pope has supreme and full power in faith, in morals over each and every pastor and his flock. He is the true vicar, the head of the entire church, the father and teacher of all Christians. He is the infallible ruler, the founder of dogmas, the author of and the judge of councils; the universal ruler of truth, the arbiter of the world,..
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@backwoodsninja ... the supreme judge of heaven and earth, the judge of all, being judged by no one, God himself on earth." Quoted in the New York Catechism. Father A. Pereira says: "It is quite certain that Popes have never approved or rejected this title 'Lord God the Pope,' for the passage in the gloss referred to appears in the edition of the Canon Law published in Rome in 1580 by Gregory XIII." Writers on the Canon Law say, "The Pope and God are the same, "
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
Since when are the Kennedy's Catholic ?
marketwatch101 1 year ago
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knight91105 1 year ago
@knight91105 Amen. The main problem here is that the roman catholic "church" is the only organization that has offered peverts of every stripe and pedophiles in particular a career, protection and access to children. Over time this has led to more and more perverts being attracted to the Church.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
Fr. Barron seems like an awesome priest who is Faithful to Catholic Teaching (that's what makes him awesome!). Kerry Kennedy, on the other hand, needs a spiritual slap in the face so she can come out of the spell that she's in and once again find The One True Faith of the Catholic Church ...
ChristianFirefighter 2 years ago
@ChristianFirefighter Well, although I shall never agree with him (or you) on most issues, I will concurr that Mr. Barron appears to be a balanced, educated, and unimposing individual, whose quality, character and (apparent) decency & integrity far surpasses his "colleagues" and is infinitely superior to the overwhelming majority of those evil, corrupt, and even murderous clerics who once occupied equivalent and superior positions in the long History of the Catholic Church in Europe.
AugustusAurelianus 1 year ago
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Blessings
nicopetromac 2 years ago
The book is code for "support democrats despite abortion". How these once-great social justice advocates could become apologists for the mass murder of children is horrifying.
Blitzt1974 2 years ago 15
hope you thought the same when irish catholics planted bombs in ireland and murdered children
jamesy15 2 years ago
That is political terrorism that has nothing to do with Catholicism. When Catholics do bad things, what you have is people failing to be Catholic.
Blitzt1974 2 years ago 12
i agree, but why does a priest give last to people who have murdered children when as your church says will burn in hell
jamesy15 2 years ago
@jamesy15 This is called: HYPOCRISY, inconsistency, along with some remnants of rudimentary (I will give them "that much") human piety, empathy & comfort to someone about to expire (living being a world where he/she has learned about all these horrors which allegedly would await him/her in the after life). The truth of the matter, in my modest opinion it represents an irrelevant ceremony at a time when the energy (so called soul) that made the dying body function, is about to be transformed.
AugustusAurelianus 1 year ago
thanks Fr. Barron. i always enjoy your videos. they're exciting AND informative. i read this book and see what you mean. i think the Catholic Church is the institution that encourages a culture of life, truth, faith, and love. but it also tells us to distinguish bw/ the sin and the sinner. the Catholic Church may have committed horrible atrocities, but is still true and good fundamentally. Jesus saw the thieves, tax collectors, and prostitutes as worthy ppl, but condemned their sins. thanks!!!!
mzl213 2 years ago 3
One day St. Francis de Sales saw a seminarian's guardian angel, walk in front of the seminarian and other times walk beside him. But after the seminarian was ordained he saw the angel always walking behind the new priest! St. Francisof Asissi who, when a priest who was living in sin, was brought to him, in the hope that he would reprimand him, knelt down and kissed the priests hands reverently. Respect our priests. No priest - no Mass - no Church. - Blessings - Rene
mammyoriordan 2 years ago
Wow your amazing! And I'm so glad I didn't buy that book;0)
penguinchicky 2 years ago
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All religions are the breeders of hate, violence, slavery, wars, ETC, and responsible for more murders than all other causes combined. It is sad. I believe in science and what can be proved via various methods such quantum physics, string theory, and science. It is so sad! God is real and if God could say any one thing to us he would say you got me all wrong! It's All brain washing for control and money!
Phych101 3 years ago
Frankly, I am more concerned with the donatism of the right wing of the Church which contends that unless you accept the Church's current view on abortion YOU MUST get up and leave the Church. See Bishop Ronald Gainer, Bishop Joe Martino, Bishop Vasa & wacky Fr. Perozich.
mespo727272 3 years ago
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jimzz12 3 years ago
I actually agree with you regarding the Donatism of the right. Such a phenomenon exists. But I wouldn't tie it to abortion, for the direct taking of the life of the innocent is the great moral non-negotiable. Even the more moderate proportionalists hold to that.
wordonfirevideo 2 years ago
I have always wondered about the Church's current uncompromising stand on abortion given the Biblical silence on the matter. As we know, Augustine in Enchiridion did not equate abortion of an unformed fetus with murder. Gratian's code included the canon Aliquando, which concluded that "abortion was homicide only when the fetus was formed." One wonders why the modern Church affords so much protection to a 100 cell blastocyst.
mespo727272 2 years ago
Because we know so much more about biology than Augustine or Aquinas did! That 100 cell blastocyst is, by any credible scientific measure, human.
wordonfirevideo 2 years ago 3
wordonfirevideo "That 100 cell blastocyst is, human." not only that. We as humans have a Chem field that's thought to be a driving force behind consciousness. We have this Chem field from the moment of conception to the moment of death. So, the baby is not only human, but he or she has a form of consciousness from the moment of conception. Paramecium are single celled orginisms that exibit elementary forms of consciousness. They niether sow nor reep; we are worth more to God than they.
Oliver1456 2 years ago
@mespo727272 Surely the eventual introduction of abortion, or banning of marriage of priests (causing an array of never ending sexual abuse all over the world-just to tip of an iceberg, by the way), along with deliberate shedding of "Biblical Books - such as the book of Judas Iscariot, the denigration of Mary Magdalene as a prostitute - ALL served the personal purposes of one individual or another during the Middle Ages - when Ignorance, dogma & totalitarian rule by edicts created new "truths"
AugustusAurelianus 1 year ago
I enjoyed this lecture, Father Barron. Our Church has the big task of going back to its spiritual roots to recover the glory and the standing before the secular world... How come a Catholic politician votes for abortion on demand and then goes to communion? In this moral wasteland, these lectures are an oases.
ixtoc999 3 years ago
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Great video. I had similar thoughts when I sat down and read through the book. It seems that for people like Kennedy, I get the impression that Catholicism is more of an arm of her politics than her politics being an arm of her Catholicism. So things become backwards. Also, don't even get me started on Susan Sarandon's chapter. I almost threw up!
Hulkster81 3 years ago
Great video. I had similar thoughts when I sat down and read through the book. It seems that for people like Kennedy, I get the impression that Catholicism is more of an arm of her politics than her politics being an arm of her Catholicism. So things become backwards. Also, don't even get me started on Susan Sarandon's chapter. I almost threw up!
Hulkster81 3 years ago
The bible (Word of God)& the Holy Spirit- inspires justice, NOT denominational doctrine. You are a good teacher and I salute you, I just slightly disagree with some of your statements. But you may disagree with some of my thoughts. Continue to do what God has called you to do (Inn Humilty).
FarmersMinistry 3 years ago
Oh come on! You can't find doctrines such as the incarnation, Trinity, original sin, redemption, justification, and the necessity of the church in the Bible? You're proving my point: it is dangerous indeed to drive a wedge between justice and the doctrines of the church.
wordonfirevideo 3 years ago
Incarnation-John 1:14
Trinity-Matthew 28:19
Original Sin-Romans 5:12
Redemption-Galatians 3:13
Justification-Romans 5:1-2
Church-Hebrews 10:25
The Bible is our sword-Hebrews 4:12-13
Holy spirit guide you into truth-John 16:12-15
FarmersMinistry 3 years ago
Thanks. You've proven my point and undermined your own! I quarreled with your statement that the Bible is not about doctrine but social justice. I have a feeling there's been some failure to communicate here!
wordonfirevideo 3 years ago
I have no problem if you disagree with some of my thoughts, as I disagree with some of yours. But the way you have replied (with the spirit of pride and lack of humilty), shows that you are not operating in Love. Which is the GREATEST gift God gives the church! (1Cor. 13).
-I believe God has blessed you with great insight and that you are called to be a great teacher, but don't get caught in your own cleverness.(Job 5:13)
-Continue to do what God has called you to do.
FarmersMinistry 3 years ago
You can't divorce Truth from Love. Truth without love is cold. Love without truth is meaningless. Without an objective foundation, you run the risk of slipping into nihilism.
muertos06 3 years ago
umm... I think Fr was expaining to you that the Catholic doctines are all found in the bible - which you then provided references for - when you originally said that the bible did not inspire doctrine.
soo... you refuted yourself and did infact prove Fr's point.
try reading your comments again... you should take your own advice to others.
nta982 3 years ago 2
P.S We are on the same TEAM...
FarmersMinistry 3 years ago
FarmersMinistry-Per your first comment, I suspected you were either a lifelong protestant or someone who left the Catholic Church. I checked your website and( sure enough) you are the former. BTW,I think you are the only one who is reading pride and lack of humility into comments here. If you want to challenge someone's position, how about doing so on it's merits and not play the attack game?
YourAmelie 3 years ago 2
lol..God Bless you, continue to be used by God. Have a great day.
P.S The word Catholic-means "Universal" or "All Inclusive" ...so we are still family, and I love you.
FarmersMinistry 3 years ago
...I recommend that anyone who wants to learn about Catholicism use the Didache Series available thru Midwest Theological Forum. The art work in these books is amazing! This series of texts provide solid doctrine in a well written format. I do not think these books will foster social justice Catholics!
YourAmelie 3 years ago
The root of and solution to the problem of separating the Institutional Church from faith, is instruction in Church history & the basics of the Faith. Unfortunately, the institutional Church (pastors and at least one bishop that I approached, were not interested in providing adult ed).
YourAmelie 3 years ago
You really need to go the movements and lay institutes for this at the moment. It's quiet but it is happening.
KeirHopwood 3 years ago
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Catholics are wrong about God. Priests molest children. Jesus was silly. Did I leave anything out?
Philfa 3 years ago
Bravo, Padre. Well presented.
BrotherofNalts 3 years ago 3
once again, the Kennedy's strike
.......out that is......
if you'd like to know about the mindset of the kennedy clan is read about the grandfather who stole from the poor irish in order to get rich for himself........
when they repay our black brethren for slavery, the irish should file suit next vs. the kennedy clan......
can't wait to see what damage dear caroline does in the senate....
frjimt 3 years ago
True. Liberals should not be called liberal but socialist, right?
tbonealaska 3 years ago
Socialist indeed
newworldorder08 3 years ago
Didn't the breakaway protestant church largely come about due to the effects of the great plague forcing the church of Rome to drop its priest training and ordainment standards? (Did the celibacy of the priesthood and the ban on women priests directives come down the mountain with Moses?)
MarkB1ngham 3 years ago
Yes! This is exactly how I felt as well. I don't understand why some are putting a wedge between the fruitful faith and the Holy Church that the faith itself comes from. It's so odd to me.
muertos06 3 years ago
If I want to know about "being catholic now," i think i'd rather read something by pope benedict xvi. I was interested in picking the book up, but now i don't think i'd like to give my money to the kennedy's. speaking of pope benedict xvi, i think fr. barron ought to do a video commentary on one of his books, like Jesus of Nazareth....
What do you think padre?
vint7107 3 years ago
Great video! Thank you for posting.
Pax et Caritas
FIDESetRATIOihtys 3 years ago