Quentin was a total character in the best sense of the word and one of the best conversationalists/raconteurs EVER from what I hear. Wish I could have had a chat with him, such an interesting cat! People are WAY to focused on others sexuality imo. It's totally irrelevant when defining a person as far as I'm concerned.
Quentin was a wonderful person, and only later in life did he know how much he was loved. I was so fortunate to film him at 90, a few months before his death. It was a privilege.
So you are admitting to being a total deadbeat? Thats allright, america LOVES DEADBEATS, as a matter of fact, thats all we allow into our country anymore; deadbeats.
@stevenwatson1947 Thank you for taking the time and making the effort for sharing these with us. He was an impressive person who actually lived what he believed and took the blows for it. I've been around men who feel violently about gay men and it's fightening to listen to them. I can't imagine living as he did and having those kind of men react with him all his life. I'm surprised he survived. Even some young gay men today don't. So thanks Steve. It must have been something to meet him.
My farther used to employ Quentin as a life model at Chelsea Art school . i cant agree when hes says he had no ability for any of the things he did. he was one of my dads favourite models and sometimes he would bring his butch boyfreind and they would model together too.
The number of frial, gentle gay men beaten to death for resting a hand on another man's shoulder. The willowy kids who get kicked to death for having one too many drinks and tell a mate that he loves him.
These are the victims of the conditioned horror of homophobia: not rapists; gentle, gay people reaching out for physical companionship to a stranger.
Consider this: there are men out there who are viscerally terrified of being looked at with sexual objectivity by ANY male, no matter how gentle, elderly or harmless, scared to the point that they would lash out in violence if looked at sideways. Imagine what women go through; the constant staring of men, much stronger than they are, the constant threat of rape, the sidling up in bars, the groping and casual remarks. Any woman puts up with 1000 times more harassment than any man.
When a gay man looks directly at you for more than five seconds; you are frozen with horror and discomfort. The slightest advance provokes an outrageous (and self-justified) torrent of violence and fear.
And those mild advances are NOTHING compared to the endless, grindling, disgusting, unwanted experiences that women have to endure in silence from men every day, advances that men see as natural, that they are entitled to make.
Bit of an over to top remark. Are most men (orf whatever orientation) these days really "frozen with horror" if looked at by a gay man with interest? I'm straight but I would just feel indifference. I think someone would have to be a very stereotyped homophobe macho man to react as you describe. As for men reacting with torrents of violence to the slightest advance the same applies. Most civilised men would just say sorry they;re not interested.
...and I think I would know if my female friends and relatives felt they were daily subject to endless disgusting experiences every day. I also feel offended on behalf of my gender that you think we all typical act in a disgusting way to women. I presume the people who approved of your posts were mainly misandrists.
@steerpike66 Way to be a total cunt. "All men are evil" may as well of been your statement there. On behalf of all perfectly normal blokes every where I'd like to express my outrage with a hearty fuck you.
sexual objectivity, by this you mean 'the Gaze'. Yes women are much more a victim of it. it was not until the 60s with provactive adverts such as Calvin Klein jeans, that men were subject to the Gaze too but not to such a degree. Look however at pre masculine reprocination, tudor dress was flamboyant for men, actually in most of history men have been equally the object of the gaze. in the animal kindom too, consider a 'peacock complex' the male is the more orminant than the female.
@xanderlicous The interesting fact is that in nature, all of nature, think of birds and fish and almost anything with a pulse..the male is the pretty one. He must compete for sexual success.
I once phoned Quentin and talked to him for about a 1/2 an hour. He was going on about writing a book called "How to kill Yourself in Good Taste". He said that when the time comes he was going to hang himself, but he never did!
@racistgayclown i saw that film years ago when i was a teenager and didn't know how useless people like this really are; sexual perverts who accept aids as something acceptable!
even if he wanted to fight the army would not have him because they said homosexuality was an illness !! and he dressed as he did all his life until he was 90.....not to dodge being enlisted...
Irony? It's no joke when scum like this flaunt themselves and offer nothing but disgust to earn a living, when others have to offer their life to defend this creep! If he didn't want bad attention then he should've crept under the stone where he is now buried under? If he had directed a glance, never mind touched my arm I would've punched him regardless of his age.
@tabula123456 I agree but its latent bisexuality that is the real problem, I personally think there are few real latent homosexuals who go around beating up other gay guys. However, there are probably a lot of bullies that deep down have mixed feelings. True heterosexual men are not scared, freaked out, etc by gay guys. A real man is just bored, slightly amused, or even complimented.
I'm not interested in debating you visceral hatred of flamboyantly effeminate men. Go back and read my comment. You said Crisp "only acted and dressed like this to avoid fighting in a war". Since Crisp tried to join the Army and was rejected and since compulsory military service in Britain was abolished in 1958, it's ludicrous to suggest he behaved the way he did to avoid fighting in a war. So, why dont you get your facts straight?
@sclapione People like my grandfather fought for this country when people like this low life show off avoided it! I wish he was still alive as I'd pretend that I was gay, go back with him and then suffocate him and leave him with looking like a suicide attempt!
Ignorant to what? A man who dressed in women's clothing and acted like a whore? He was beaten up because his appearance and attitude clearly mocked the real men of the day. They had to work hard, fight in wars but this creep seemed to be acting like a tart! U may accept him only because u are like him! Be gay but stay out the way because y no use to society!
I could listen to Quentin Crisp until he had no more to say; he was agreat philosopher with razor-sharp sardonic wit & ideologies far before his time. I miss QC greatly & hope he's enjoying himself in Heaven causing havoc.
@senbean I totally agree with you on Q Crisp and on accepting others for who there are. Its a sad world when people like copperpotbaby is ignorant to the facts of the world around them. They see Gay and people who are a little different to them as "creeps" etc, to use their words. Its very sad to see such intolerance and to such an extent. They need to look at themselves at look at their values.
there are so many different kinds of people and ways of thinking. Its wiser to open your mind.
One brilliant biography, if anyone is inetrested, partially about Quentin Crisp is called "Quentin and Phillip" by Andrew Barrow. Barrow masterfully intertwines the lives of both Quentin Crisp and Phillip O'Connor in his narrative and provides a truly personal and insightful look into the lives of two unforgettable men who have lived unforgettable lives...
this guy sounds interesting. I know nothing about him, who he was, what he did, nothing. I'd love to see this entire interview. the few short clips I saw were interesting.
Your a illiterate moron. Your on the internet look it up dip shit.Are you that fucking lazy ? Your on line and your posting for people to do your research for you ! pathetic ! you will go far in life dummy!
I read in one of his books something like: " It is like a stone wall. If you lean against it long enough it may eventually crumble and fall". Since then this ihas been my approach to difficulties in life. QC redeemed me.
You decadents living in the West - be grateful, it took me 5 minutes to download this here in China. Here he is still inconceivable - my favourite quote of his is, "What ever happens to us is our own fault, but that is not our fault." I think that is how it goes.
Quentin Crisp was regularly employed as a model, as an art student I drew and painted him nearly every day in the 1970s at The City & Guilds of London School of Art. He was always very employable, always in work and certainly not unemployed.
My favorite Quentin Crisp quote is: "Some enchanted evening, you may meet a stranger across a crowded room...but don't get too serious...remember there is no salvation, only laughter in the dark."
Does ANYONE know in which of his books this is found? It was my mom's old book and I can't find it anymore :(!
@AthensAnna I believe that in that quote he was refering to his time as a prostitute when he said that he was looking for love but found only degredation.
I watch these clips incessantly. What an amazing human being. What a hero for people like me who are funny looking and end up being artists because of it. That is such a BRILLIANT observation!
What a treasure!
TibetKanagawa 4 weeks ago
Quentin was a total character in the best sense of the word and one of the best conversationalists/raconteurs EVER from what I hear. Wish I could have had a chat with him, such an interesting cat! People are WAY to focused on others sexuality imo. It's totally irrelevant when defining a person as far as I'm concerned.
SuperStrik9 4 months ago
Ok copperpot dipshit.....what i don't understand is.... if you can't stand "these people" what in hell are you doing here?
i can't stand idiots who has no idea what "live and let live" mean...... do i come and bug you under your rock?
gyreenedoc 6 months ago
Quentin was a wonderful person, and only later in life did he know how much he was loved. I was so fortunate to film him at 90, a few months before his death. It was a privilege.
stevenwatson1947 7 months ago 4
what a wonderful person he must have been..... how sad i never had the chase
or the privilege of meeting him.
gyreenedoc 7 months ago
he did wrom he wrote movie reviews and lots of tv appearences and magazine/book deals..lotsofthings..he cant live on fresh air - so he did work
clazza01 9 months ago
So you are admitting to being a total deadbeat? Thats allright, america LOVES DEADBEATS, as a matter of fact, thats all we allow into our country anymore; deadbeats.
papawx3 9 months ago
@papawx3 Are your braincells "deadbeat", to come to such a braindead conclusion ?
sclapione 7 months ago
Mr Burns ...Ha Ha Ha
tomthepope 1 year ago
I wish this were one long interview instead of 90-second clips.
DCFunBud 1 year ago 8
@DCFunBud
I hope to put more clips up.
Steven Watson
stevenwatson1947 1 year ago 5
@stevenwatson1947 Thank you for taking the time and making the effort for sharing these with us. He was an impressive person who actually lived what he believed and took the blows for it. I've been around men who feel violently about gay men and it's fightening to listen to them. I can't imagine living as he did and having those kind of men react with him all his life. I'm surprised he survived. Even some young gay men today don't. So thanks Steve. It must have been something to meet him.
Songsmirth 4 months ago
My farther used to employ Quentin as a life model at Chelsea Art school . i cant agree when hes says he had no ability for any of the things he did. he was one of my dads favourite models and sometimes he would bring his butch boyfreind and they would model together too.
xanderlicous 1 year ago
The number of frial, gentle gay men beaten to death for resting a hand on another man's shoulder. The willowy kids who get kicked to death for having one too many drinks and tell a mate that he loves him.
These are the victims of the conditioned horror of homophobia: not rapists; gentle, gay people reaching out for physical companionship to a stranger.
steerpike66 2 years ago 2
Consider this: there are men out there who are viscerally terrified of being looked at with sexual objectivity by ANY male, no matter how gentle, elderly or harmless, scared to the point that they would lash out in violence if looked at sideways. Imagine what women go through; the constant staring of men, much stronger than they are, the constant threat of rape, the sidling up in bars, the groping and casual remarks. Any woman puts up with 1000 times more harassment than any man.
steerpike66 2 years ago
When a gay man looks directly at you for more than five seconds; you are frozen with horror and discomfort. The slightest advance provokes an outrageous (and self-justified) torrent of violence and fear.
And those mild advances are NOTHING compared to the endless, grindling, disgusting, unwanted experiences that women have to endure in silence from men every day, advances that men see as natural, that they are entitled to make.
steerpike66 2 years ago
@steerpike66
Bit of an over to top remark. Are most men (orf whatever orientation) these days really "frozen with horror" if looked at by a gay man with interest? I'm straight but I would just feel indifference. I think someone would have to be a very stereotyped homophobe macho man to react as you describe. As for men reacting with torrents of violence to the slightest advance the same applies. Most civilised men would just say sorry they;re not interested.
orlando098 1 year ago
...and I think I would know if my female friends and relatives felt they were daily subject to endless disgusting experiences every day. I also feel offended on behalf of my gender that you think we all typical act in a disgusting way to women. I presume the people who approved of your posts were mainly misandrists.
orlando098 1 year ago
@steerpike66 Way to be a total cunt. "All men are evil" may as well of been your statement there. On behalf of all perfectly normal blokes every where I'd like to express my outrage with a hearty fuck you.
pamew 1 year ago
@steerpike66
sexual objectivity, by this you mean 'the Gaze'. Yes women are much more a victim of it. it was not until the 60s with provactive adverts such as Calvin Klein jeans, that men were subject to the Gaze too but not to such a degree. Look however at pre masculine reprocination, tudor dress was flamboyant for men, actually in most of history men have been equally the object of the gaze. in the animal kindom too, consider a 'peacock complex' the male is the more orminant than the female.
xanderlicous 1 year ago
@xanderlicous The interesting fact is that in nature, all of nature, think of birds and fish and almost anything with a pulse..the male is the pretty one. He must compete for sexual success.
jbearden 1 year ago
I once phoned Quentin and talked to him for about a 1/2 an hour. He was going on about writing a book called "How to kill Yourself in Good Taste". He said that when the time comes he was going to hang himself, but he never did!
allexx123 2 years ago
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@racistgayclown i saw that film years ago when i was a teenager and didn't know how useless people like this really are; sexual perverts who accept aids as something acceptable!
copperpotbaby 2 years ago
even if he wanted to fight the army would not have him because they said homosexuality was an illness !! and he dressed as he did all his life until he was 90.....not to dodge being enlisted...
savantkid 2 years ago
'copperpotbaby' - either you have a strange irony to your humour or you are ignorant to the greatest degree. I choose to believe the former.
stax2020 2 years ago 2
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Irony? It's no joke when scum like this flaunt themselves and offer nothing but disgust to earn a living, when others have to offer their life to defend this creep! If he didn't want bad attention then he should've crept under the stone where he is now buried under? If he had directed a glance, never mind touched my arm I would've punched him regardless of his age.
copperpotbaby 2 years ago
@copperpotbaby "If he had directed a glance... ...I would've punched him regardless of his age."
An old gay man's glance threatens your sexuality to the extent that you're willing to punch a pensioner in the face.
Do you have a single clue what that statement makes you look like to the reasonable, rational, mature, intelligent people reading these posts?
You look like an ignorant, frightened little child that is terrified of his own latent homosexuality. Do yourself a favour and shut up.
tabula123456 2 years ago 5
@tabula123456 I agree but its latent bisexuality that is the real problem, I personally think there are few real latent homosexuals who go around beating up other gay guys. However, there are probably a lot of bullies that deep down have mixed feelings. True heterosexual men are not scared, freaked out, etc by gay guys. A real man is just bored, slightly amused, or even complimented.
rollypollyjoe 1 year ago 2
I'm not interested in debating you visceral hatred of flamboyantly effeminate men. Go back and read my comment. You said Crisp "only acted and dressed like this to avoid fighting in a war". Since Crisp tried to join the Army and was rejected and since compulsory military service in Britain was abolished in 1958, it's ludicrous to suggest he behaved the way he did to avoid fighting in a war. So, why dont you get your facts straight?
stax2020 2 years ago
@copperpotbaby
wow.... you really have a way with words! Soooo when are you getting out of the closet, dear?!
Quentin was a dear friend of mine and he has done more than you will ever do in your life!
You bloody homophobe....
DeadRingers23 1 year ago
@copperpotbaby You should punch yourself, would be more fruitful
sclapione 7 months ago
@sclapione People like my grandfather fought for this country when people like this low life show off avoided it! I wish he was still alive as I'd pretend that I was gay, go back with him and then suffocate him and leave him with looking like a suicide attempt!
copperpotbaby 7 months ago
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Ignorant to what? A man who dressed in women's clothing and acted like a whore? He was beaten up because his appearance and attitude clearly mocked the real men of the day. They had to work hard, fight in wars but this creep seemed to be acting like a tart! U may accept him only because u are like him! Be gay but stay out the way because y no use to society!
copperpotbaby 2 years ago
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He only acted and dressed like this to avoid fighting in a war; i would've kicked his arse to the front line!
copperpotbaby 2 years ago
@copperpotbaby You don`t seem to know an awful lot about Crisp, do you ?.
serberious 2 years ago 2
"People who look funny get stuck with the arts."
Yes.
Also, point of interest, he modelled for a young Barry (Windsor)-Smith, once upon a time.
ishtarg8 2 years ago
I could listen to Quentin Crisp until he had no more to say; he was agreat philosopher with razor-sharp sardonic wit & ideologies far before his time. I miss QC greatly & hope he's enjoying himself in Heaven causing havoc.
myinfamy 2 years ago 3
Absolutely myinfamy, he was a fantastic man. I only wish people would accept others for who they are, he was a huge inspiration
senbean 2 years ago 6
@senbean I totally agree with you on Q Crisp and on accepting others for who there are. Its a sad world when people like copperpotbaby is ignorant to the facts of the world around them. They see Gay and people who are a little different to them as "creeps" etc, to use their words. Its very sad to see such intolerance and to such an extent. They need to look at themselves at look at their values.
there are so many different kinds of people and ways of thinking. Its wiser to open your mind.
crystalclear999 2 years ago 4
He was so interesting, you could listen to him for hours
NikkiClo 2 years ago 8
One brilliant biography, if anyone is inetrested, partially about Quentin Crisp is called "Quentin and Phillip" by Andrew Barrow. Barrow masterfully intertwines the lives of both Quentin Crisp and Phillip O'Connor in his narrative and provides a truly personal and insightful look into the lives of two unforgettable men who have lived unforgettable lives...
drunkandangry 2 years ago
Love you Mr. Crisp,
pepstorp 2 years ago 3
this guy sounds interesting. I know nothing about him, who he was, what he did, nothing. I'd love to see this entire interview. the few short clips I saw were interesting.
grandplans 2 years ago 2
watch 'the naked civil servant'
sarahnewt 2 years ago
Your a illiterate moron. Your on the internet look it up dip shit.Are you that fucking lazy ? Your on line and your posting for people to do your research for you ! pathetic ! you will go far in life dummy!
rich107s 2 years ago
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ishtarg8 2 years ago
I read in one of his books something like: " It is like a stone wall. If you lean against it long enough it may eventually crumble and fall". Since then this ihas been my approach to difficulties in life. QC redeemed me.
angelo1962 2 years ago
There's something very Zen about Crisp, very eastern. His idea of 'style' is similar to Robert Persig's idea of 'quality' - a very wise man...
OwenJ1971 3 years ago
You decadents living in the West - be grateful, it took me 5 minutes to download this here in China. Here he is still inconceivable - my favourite quote of his is, "What ever happens to us is our own fault, but that is not our fault." I think that is how it goes.
Gozillacia 3 years ago 3
I like that one.
algoyo 3 years ago 2
Quentin Crisp was regularly employed as a model, as an art student I drew and painted him nearly every day in the 1970s at The City & Guilds of London School of Art. He was always very employable, always in work and certainly not unemployed.
bohemiastudios 3 years ago 2
Anybody got Crisp on english chat shows, Wogan etc.?
donohuem 3 years ago
My favorite Quentin Crisp quote is: "Some enchanted evening, you may meet a stranger across a crowded room...but don't get too serious...remember there is no salvation, only laughter in the dark."
Does ANYONE know in which of his books this is found? It was my mom's old book and I can't find it anymore :(!
AthensAnna 3 years ago
It's in "Manners from Heaven"
minkarcade 3 years ago
My favourite QC quotes are:
"If you at first don't succeed...then failure may be your style."
"Never try to keep up with the Joneses...drag them down to your level - it's cheaper"
algoyo 3 years ago 3
He is a genius. What a mind!
AthensAnna 3 years ago 2
@AthensAnna I believe that in that quote he was refering to his time as a prostitute when he said that he was looking for love but found only degredation.
serberious 2 years ago
I watch these clips incessantly. What an amazing human being. What a hero for people like me who are funny looking and end up being artists because of it. That is such a BRILLIANT observation!
StringQuery 3 years ago
I enjoy seeing Quentin ever so much! Thank you for sharing.
lilyypoot 3 years ago