This dumb ass announcer hopes smash doesn't go online?! First of all, he describes getting his ass kicked, then goes on to say, "That is why I hope smash doesn't go online." Okay! Y'know what I think? He is just an elitist fucker who wants to keep smash away from the casual gamer, which contradicts everything Nintendo is about. What the hell could possibly be better about having to pay to enter tournaments, driving to get to them, waiting forever for you turn, then loosing. Game over! Go home.
Hmm, I know this is a really old match, but does anybody know who PC lost to in the LB Finals because this is WF's... yet I don't see a GF with Ken and PC.
Fighting games are way different then shooting games, people don't really come up with cheap strategies on there, they just have dynamic skill from playing, and good reflexes and aim.
@cluelessbtd L cancelling is a result of imperfect coding, theres no way that it could be just meant for competitive play, it's animation would be smoother if so.
@wijayaratnam How could it possibly be smoother? All they had to do was take the original animation and make it faster. They carried the technique from smash 64. It was absolutely coded purposely. There is no way for them to remake a game and put some glitch which makes no sense TWICE.
@cluelessbtd This is true. As it may be a glitch in SSB64(Bad coding) they would NOT make the SAME mistake twice. In Melee it's obvious that it was done purposely.
Even though it wasn't intended for competition, it was made to have lots of replay value, and with fighting games that tends to mean competitive depth.
i really like ken's new style. he doesn't overuse his CG as much. and he uses his forward B combo, and his counter attack which is more stylish i guess.
Was the player from Texas he was talking about perhaps FASTLIKETREE? He actually came to one of my UT Austin Smash Club meetings, his fox truly is astounding. I didn't play against him, but I have a friend who did and he attested to that. In fact, he's ranked 14th in the world.
some people just enjoy the new stuff. Brawl is more of a party game than melee, less hardcore. That can be a good thing when you often play with noobs. Besides, its still possible to get better at brawl.
Just because Brawl is slower it can't be played competitively?? There is just as much complexity to consider with the gameplay, if not more. Brawl is more about strategy and mindgames, rather than speed and combos. Furthermore, it's only been out for a year. In a few years the metagame probably will have developed much farther than it is now.
Keep playing melee if you want, but just because Brawl is unfamiliar to you doesn't make it bad.
I didn't say Brawl isn't competitive. I said Brawl wasn't MADE to be competitive. If you really think Sakurai was thinking "Alright, how can I make a more competitive fighting game than melee" and came up with Brawl, then there's no point in talking to you.
why is brawl more about mindgames and strategy than melee? melee has all of that too, and more (tech chasing). Think about the stuff in melee, then the stuff in brawl. They removed way more than they added. (crawling, wall cling, foot stool hell yes)
melee is more complex than brawl in every aspect. It is just that predicting and mindgames is much more important in brawl since theres not much else lol
Actually I'd say mind games are more important in Melee than Brawl.
See in Melee, if you lose a mind game against a pro you could be getting up to 50+ damage or death as a result. In Brawl, if you lose a mind game you get hit, float away, then come back and try again. It's clearly not a game meant for competitive play.
they shouldve made a lobby for online smash cuz i dont want to play against strangers. if the guy is good, then ill want to play him again but i wouldnt know his friend code. i hope smash boards or someone makes a site where we could post our friend codes so we know who were playing.
Respect to both PC and Ken. Good stuff. Ken will always be good no matter what anyone says. Guarentee he could still own almost everyone. PC gets better everytime I see him.
i would also like to see smash online but keep in mind that smash cannot be played online even if we could actually connect. this is a game that requires so much timing that even a bit of lag will ruin the gameplay. until some day lag can be eliminated completely, smash online is impossible to play
smash should definitly go online cause nobody will get better if they just play against the computer or there friends that suck. if anybody wants to get better they would have to play against better real people online
you learn from other people's victories and losses as well as your own. If there wasn't a smash community, the players wouldn't have evolved so fast and competition would have been scarce. History is documented so that we learn it. So learn.
Its one of the things I love about smash. Watching pros is what gives you the tools, but you as a player develop the mind games and style based upon those tools.
I said the same thing before, but once you know well the game, you know there isn't much way around this. And beside, they all play differently, different mindgames.
dang it wife, online melee would own, and would put more pressure on individuality. Brawl's gonna go online, so all the online haters can shaddup. If you want to be original, be left-handed like me, lol! Smash online will own, all the online haters should shaddup and play local, lol! SSB ftw!
plus these matches are after PC beat Ken and Ken took it upon himself to majorly train himself in fighting falcos something that wasnt a requirement for bombsoldier
0:01 OMG ITS ISAI!! :DD
omegadude255 1 year ago
This dumb ass announcer hopes smash doesn't go online?! First of all, he describes getting his ass kicked, then goes on to say, "That is why I hope smash doesn't go online." Okay! Y'know what I think? He is just an elitist fucker who wants to keep smash away from the casual gamer, which contradicts everything Nintendo is about. What the hell could possibly be better about having to pay to enter tournaments, driving to get to them, waiting forever for you turn, then loosing. Game over! Go home.
Egup1 1 year ago
3:34 bet he's mad now
DarkLava2007 1 year ago
falco v marth is my favorite match up :P
MilesWC7 1 year ago
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WOW THIS JUST PROVES MELEE SUCKS
djmikeaaronr 1 year ago
@djmikeaaronr how
jfp521 1 year ago
Lawl another phantom at 2:43
MilkMan1209 2 years ago
screw Brawl, play Brawl +, it has COMBOS.
Like you hit someone, and they don't just air-dodge away. And you don't try to edge guard someone and hit nothing but air.
I only play Brawl nowadays when I'm forced to.
nahor88 2 years ago
thank you bach for editing;)
cross25011990 2 years ago 3
Hmm, I know this is a really old match, but does anybody know who PC lost to in the LB Finals because this is WF's... yet I don't see a GF with Ken and PC.
PLHarky 2 years ago
Isai totally sandbagged that handshake. I know he could have done better.
0ddler 2 years ago 35
XD lol
Saturi 2 years ago
isai sandbags everything :D
LedZeppelinSongs 2 years ago 3
@0ddler isai is shit , at least in melee
pecora01 1 year ago
"which is one of the reasons i hope that smash doesn't go online"
owned
Brost31 2 years ago 16
Yeah, Brawl got owned.
RadicallyDreaming 2 years ago
Fighting games are way different then shooting games, people don't really come up with cheap strategies on there, they just have dynamic skill from playing, and good reflexes and aim.
Mrxb0x 2 years ago
Um, I doubt Melee was made for "competition."
Dsupreme1 2 years ago
What about L-canceling? That is the only part of the game that must have been intended for a competitive level of play.
cluelessbtd 2 years ago
@cluelessbtd L cancelling is a result of imperfect coding, theres no way that it could be just meant for competitive play, it's animation would be smoother if so.
wijayaratnam 1 year ago
@wijayaratnam How could it possibly be smoother? All they had to do was take the original animation and make it faster. They carried the technique from smash 64. It was absolutely coded purposely. There is no way for them to remake a game and put some glitch which makes no sense TWICE.
cluelessbtd 1 year ago
@cluelessbtd This is true. As it may be a glitch in SSB64(Bad coding) they would NOT make the SAME mistake twice. In Melee it's obvious that it was done purposely.
TheLasTWolf69 1 year ago
Even though it wasn't intended for competition, it was made to have lots of replay value, and with fighting games that tends to mean competitive depth.
mentalrectangle 2 years ago 5
and then smash went online
xMaStRmAtTx 2 years ago 4
so true.
Lonewulf321 2 years ago
i really like ken's new style. he doesn't overuse his CG as much. and he uses his forward B combo, and his counter attack which is more stylish i guess.
jkim519 2 years ago
i always call marth ken. i go, your playin ken?
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Correction, FLT is ranked 21st in the US, not 14th in the world, but thats still pretty good, lol.
nahor88 3 years ago 3
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nahor88 3 years ago
Was the player from Texas he was talking about perhaps FASTLIKETREE? He actually came to one of my UT Austin Smash Club meetings, his fox truly is astounding. I didn't play against him, but I have a friend who did and he attested to that. In fact, he's ranked 14th in the world.
nahor88 3 years ago
smash shouldn't have gone online. so true. Brawl sucks even offline.
flame6753 3 years ago
lol ok
stop bawing because you have to learn new techs and start over again
MidnightHercules 2 years ago
No he's right. Slowing down the game play, nerfing any good characters and creating new broken ones, auto sweet-spotting, tripping, etc.
brawl is bullshit, but if you want to keep your eyes closed to that it's cool.
NeoAkira101 2 years ago
some people just enjoy the new stuff. Brawl is more of a party game than melee, less hardcore. That can be a good thing when you often play with noobs. Besides, its still possible to get better at brawl.
walterppk1989 2 years ago 3
I definitely agree with that sentiment. Brawl was not made for competitive play, it was made to be played as a party game.
NeoAkira101 2 years ago
Just because Brawl is slower it can't be played competitively?? There is just as much complexity to consider with the gameplay, if not more. Brawl is more about strategy and mindgames, rather than speed and combos. Furthermore, it's only been out for a year. In a few years the metagame probably will have developed much farther than it is now.
Keep playing melee if you want, but just because Brawl is unfamiliar to you doesn't make it bad.
samuelchristmas 2 years ago
I didn't say Brawl isn't competitive. I said Brawl wasn't MADE to be competitive. If you really think Sakurai was thinking "Alright, how can I make a more competitive fighting game than melee" and came up with Brawl, then there's no point in talking to you.
NeoAkira101 2 years ago 3
why is brawl more about mindgames and strategy than melee? melee has all of that too, and more (tech chasing). Think about the stuff in melee, then the stuff in brawl. They removed way more than they added. (crawling, wall cling, foot stool hell yes)
melee is more complex than brawl in every aspect. It is just that predicting and mindgames is much more important in brawl since theres not much else lol
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Actually I'd say mind games are more important in Melee than Brawl.
See in Melee, if you lose a mind game against a pro you could be getting up to 50+ damage or death as a result. In Brawl, if you lose a mind game you get hit, float away, then come back and try again. It's clearly not a game meant for competitive play.
NeoAkira101 2 years ago 3
lmao float away
Rayofpain 2 years ago
I think you are right.
carbuncle099 2 years ago
1:41 to 1:44 was that kenshin the manslayer shit RYUken
bargblor3 3 years ago
2:48 "expect KENS all over the country to start countering, folks"
Enigmatics2 3 years ago 7
i've seen this video maybe a dozen times, everytime he said that i heard "marths"; makes sense tho i guess
flexdex4ever 3 years ago
aw you beat me to the chase
xRisingForcex 3 years ago
>_> God, Marth should just be re-named to Ken.
cobaltsaberfire 3 years ago 19
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PC Chris should change his name to PC Virus! lol!
upy0ur5 3 years ago
no dick thats not funny
boomshakalak1 3 years ago
whoa nice Marth combo near the end.
Soultrigger 3 years ago 3
Melee>Brawl, and ken doesn't control marth, marth controls ken. and was that Isai next to ken?
RiddimzMasta 3 years ago 4
ken is amazing
hockeyrulez88 3 years ago 3
what happen to brawl?? man fuck brawl melee was the shit!!! (runs to his closet and crys about how brawl was a dissapointment)
Sovereign2k6 3 years ago 16
true
Timic83amv 3 years ago
so so true.
Timic83amv 3 years ago
oh so true
lovingmonkay 3 years ago
Fuck Brawl, melee is definatly the shit
Red3white 3 years ago 43
Amen to that.
falconpunch777 3 years ago 11
yup...
Shackleb0lt 3 years ago
qft
xRisingForcex 3 years ago
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lol "i hope smash dosent go online" fail
ilikesmlngwhtout 3 years ago
3:10-3:11 lol i no he didnt mean it tht way but it sounded funny "because everyone is playing with each other
starfox15 3 years ago 4
Next ken ,sorry.
senbonzankura 3 years ago
The person next king is isai,right?
senbonzankura 3 years ago
mmm i think so
blurssbm 3 years ago
Yes.
NathanLilly 3 years ago
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Wow, look at all those virgins.
anonymous732 4 years ago
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lol
ynnek123 4 years ago
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rofl
Zerophoenix16 4 years ago
They're all like 14, dumbass. Do you really think their gaming habits are the reason they're virgins?
HeedleGlavin 4 years ago 2
although i agree with ur reasoning and that annonymous guy is an asshole, theyre like 20...
arrenonane 4 years ago 2
I'm sure you all know the intimate details of the love lives of every member of the Smash community.
IXB34RXI 3 years ago
ya we do no the details all with ur mom lol
starfox15 3 years ago
they shouldve made a lobby for online smash cuz i dont want to play against strangers. if the guy is good, then ill want to play him again but i wouldnt know his friend code. i hope smash boards or someone makes a site where we could post our friend codes so we know who were playing.
mrbrightside8313 4 years ago
Respect to both PC and Ken. Good stuff. Ken will always be good no matter what anyone says. Guarentee he could still own almost everyone. PC gets better everytime I see him.
MinneappolisMN9 4 years ago 4
i'm glad brawl is online.. in england it is kind of hard to get a good match
shadowheartscam 4 years ago
Just because Wife has a voice like he has, doesn't mean he's gay.
pizzaface42 4 years ago
I'm pretty sure he is gay though
Vespa412 4 years ago
lol yeah he sounds.........a little bit gay >.>
nfs204 4 years ago 3
Haha, I don't think he's trying to hide it. His NAME is "Wife".
CielBlanche 3 years ago
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lol the gay guy doesn't want smash online. but brawl will be.
lolSBK12345 4 years ago
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you guys arent that good.
DAHF420 4 years ago
I'll just have to respond with a simple haha with that.
Psytheslasher 4 years ago 4
This is, perhaps, the funniest comment ever.
ZaneFleia 4 years ago 4
cant understand how people will play online if lag ruins gameplay...
Just 0,5 seconds of delay/lag are enough. Make friends and play, it'll be better =)
pablovirus 4 years ago
Ken's combo on the last stock was sick
Frosty1221 4 years ago 4
i sure hope super snash bros brawl goes online.
phoenix9909 4 years ago 3
brawl is going to have wi-fi just like a nintendo ds but the wii is online 24/7 so u dont need extra equipment like the ds
well... thats what i heard
patypay 4 years ago
awesome, can't wait for it to come out
phoenix9909 4 years ago
what extra equipment did you need for the ds?
ken12012 4 years ago
srry i was wrong u do need extra equipment
the extra equipment is like the routers,usb connecters and stuff like that
patypay 4 years ago
why, wouldn't you need it for the wii? it uses the same nintendo wfc.
ken12012 4 years ago
Shiek is easier. But Falco can be more deadly with good tech skill. Falco is top-tier after all..
Smownage 4 years ago
Really?, it was Fox, Sheik, Marth for the longest time. Falco was high tier, right beneith peach when last i looked.
StarKyte 4 years ago
in the beginning.. is aniki anywhere there?
abelign1991 4 years ago
Aniki lives in Japan
whatwhatwhatwhatwhat 4 years ago 3
Falco or Sheik? hmm.. if you cant Wavedash then i would go sheik... it depends if youve played ss64 cuz it actually helps ^^
I3eeeeeeef 4 years ago
I use
R to wavedash
L to L cancel(lol)
And Captain Jack rocks btw.
SinjihnSmith 4 years ago
whos a better character to use all around....falco or shiek?
Woodall54 4 years ago
i would go with falco... well that's what i think, i suck with shiek
Blazingswordsman 4 years ago
i would also like to see smash online but keep in mind that smash cannot be played online even if we could actually connect. this is a game that requires so much timing that even a bit of lag will ruin the gameplay. until some day lag can be eliminated completely, smash online is impossible to play
DDzeal 4 years ago
smash should definitly go online cause nobody will get better if they just play against the computer or there friends that suck. if anybody wants to get better they would have to play against better real people online
Woodall54 4 years ago
I don't get why people have to try to imitate the pros, they should try to come up with their own strategies.
Pieater2o 4 years ago
you learn from other people's victories and losses as well as your own. If there wasn't a smash community, the players wouldn't have evolved so fast and competition would have been scarce. History is documented so that we learn it. So learn.
180OP 4 years ago 2
Its one of the things I love about smash. Watching pros is what gives you the tools, but you as a player develop the mind games and style based upon those tools.
jedispartan145 4 years ago
I said the same thing before, but once you know well the game, you know there isn't much way around this. And beside, they all play differently, different mindgames.
Techiyo 4 years ago
agreed
0xZystx0 4 years ago
I have Isaiah's bookbag!
harriettheguy 4 years ago
left-handed is real easy. im really good and im left handed and have only 2 fingers on my right hand. i wavedash with the l trigger
Toesrus 4 years ago
Online would be ftw
hitaku 4 years ago
i agree with wife smash online just wouldnt be the same...
sos246 4 years ago
i love these matches, theyr so close
WindBelow 4 years ago
dang it wife, online melee would own, and would put more pressure on individuality. Brawl's gonna go online, so all the online haters can shaddup. If you want to be original, be left-handed like me, lol! Smash online will own, all the online haters should shaddup and play local, lol! SSB ftw!
faceurhell 4 years ago
How do u play left handed? Custom controller?
NKOITH 4 years ago
i hope brawl goes online cuz that will be a great oppurtunaty for me to become a better player
soazi 4 years ago
WTf are you kiddding me of course smash will go online that would be the most perfect thing ever. i herd it will be online too, for brawl that is.
opticalflare 4 years ago
i agree that smash should never go online.
llamaboy1028 4 years ago
i think pc chris did not chose this map, is ken. Because in new york he lost on dk 64
45896loi 4 years ago
the ken of smash
Joseismrawesome 4 years ago
May I ask why PC counterpicks with DK64 all the time?
mjlenczewsk 4 years ago
huaaaak ken is mine game xtm =()
bsNAPA 4 years ago
i wish those commentators would shut up. dam, pc chris didnt use shine very effectively and he didnt use wavedash at all!
holyhalo5 4 years ago
plus these matches are after PC beat Ken and Ken took it upon himself to majorly train himself in fighting falcos something that wasnt a requirement for bombsoldier
asdfman 4 years ago
lol ken learns how to counter pc's falco but not bombsoldier's
Elsyrup 4 years ago
The Bombsoldier matches took place in 2005 and these matches are from 2006.
Yeah.
whatwhatwhatwhatwhat 4 years ago
lol, exactly what whatwhatwhat said.
The difference was, Ken did not lose to bombsoldier. The east vs west coast players also causes friction between the two.
magneticmagnum 4 years ago
Man....they're good.
OmniNero 4 years ago
wow pay back for new york
ShinKazenoKizzu 4 years ago
Wow, that was pretty crazy.
GeometricalCows 4 years ago
pc chris is the best , just like ken and BS
topetejuega 4 years ago