), part of the French Ministère de L'éducation Nationale &put onto an "anonymous" compilation of "Taiwanese aboriginal songs". The French government then sold the recording, again without permission or public announcement, to EMI. EMI allowed Enigma to use the recording as a sample track for their song. So, promoting world culture, huh.But hopefully things changed since the 80s...I'd like to find Duanas' version, too.I hate it how everyone thinks it's Enigma's composition.
In 1988 Difang and Igay went to France to sing on a tour. They and roughly 30 other aboriginal Taiwanese artists were paid $15 a day for this privilege. Their performances were recorded without their knowledge by the Maison des Cultures du Monde (Institute for World Cultures).
There is a CD called "Circle of Life" by the people who produced Deep Forest. Basically, you're looking for:
Difang & Igay Duana (郭英男 & 郭秀珠) - Circle of Life
**Probably, you only need to look up Difang...but this CD is hard to find, you'd have much more luck getting it in Taiwan (or having a Taiwanese friend get it for you...maybe check Ebay).
You won't find the original sample, but he recorded it without instruments for the album I listed above...the same song, called the "Elder's Song" (also known under a few other names).
finally finally! I have been looking for this for ages! Thanks a lot for posting. I came across this melody once some years ago and then the melody seemed implanted in my mind -- simply can not chase away. Now I got it save in my fav... disregard the name some Taiwanese call themselves, I love this music and I believe this is typically Taiwanese --nothing to do with Holland.
Wow, if the ami weren't credited for their contribution, we'd never know the origins of the song and the meaning behind it. Big music companies suing youtube for copyright infringement? Perhaps it isn't to much to ask them to look at themselves first.
I think its only right if you credit someone when you use their work, especially if the chanting part makes up 50% of the entire song. the male aborigine singer's voice is etheral and strong. Haunting indeed.
There were articles that the chant is from the tribe's "Jubilant drinking song" which is sung with friends in celebration. Because the tribe lives near the sea, the chant moves like waves breaking against the sea rock.
I remember that the singer's name was Knu something... and was in his 70's at the time. But, I dunno. I haven't looked really deep into the subject. I just know that it explains why I don't like Enigma's other songs! And has opened a whole new world.. of Taiwan. Whoo!
I remember the singer having another name... Knu something... In his late 70's at the time, not sure how long ago... Anyway. This song means more to me since I learned where the chanting came from. Opens up a whole new world! It also explains why I dislike other Enigma songs, since the chanting isn't even theirs.
Yes, Enigma borrows a lot from other works. So is this Difang Duana character supposed to be the chanter at the beginning or the soloist? Cause I thought it was said he's the soloist. I remember he was listed as 'Angel' in the CD cover paper.
They both sound nice, but I think the soloist has a truly amazing voice :) kinda girlish too :P
I have no idea who Difang Duana is... I have learned that it was Kuo Ying-nan and Kuo Hsiu-chu who did all the chanting, and that their song was pretty much stolen by Enigma.
The thing with the chanting was that it wasn't popular. *scratches head* It's now like there's 2 sources for it, which is very confusing. Searching on Google "enigma return to innocence court" I can find information on how they were sued for using the chanting without premission. That it was sampled. Hm. Maybe they had someone else chant it, or something.
GOOD
a61070233 2 years ago
不需要複雜萱染的音樂
簡單直接好好聽
qszwax92 2 years ago 2
簡單的旋律刺盡心房
qszwax92 2 years ago
awsome song , i want this played at my funeral.
SamDorman 2 years ago 2
You can find the chanting by Difang and Igay on Itunes. Its on thier album Circle of Life, The song is called "Elders Drinking Song"
They also have another album called "Across the Yellow Earth"
Hope that helps those who want to listen to it.
ventharasser 3 years ago 4
the incidenital music is singing by who???
jardish123 3 years ago 2
The Amis tribe from Taiwan
ThisIsTaiwan 3 years ago 6
郭英男(1921年3月20日-2002年3月29日),原名Difang Duana(教會拼音作 Difang Tuwana'),台灣阿美族馬蘭社原住民,農夫,以歌聲聞名。著名的歌唱曲「老人飲酒歌」(又作飲酒歡樂歌)曾在1993年被歐洲搖滾樂團「謎」節錄部分原音,與他們的歌曲「反樸歸真」(Return to Innocence)混合出版,該曲的銷售量超過百萬,並成1996年夏季奧林匹克運動會的宣傳曲,然而該樂團的創作並未得到郭的同意,因而在奧運會期間,引起全世界觀注原住民文化與著作權的爭議,與郭英男達成和解後,奧運主辦單位成立「原住民智慧財產權基金會」,保護原住民創作。
rockpower100 3 years ago 6
台灣原住民失去的美麗文化太多太多了..
希望能將更美的原住民文化重新找回來...
TaipeiDidi 3 years ago 20
), part of the French Ministère de L'éducation Nationale &put onto an "anonymous" compilation of "Taiwanese aboriginal songs". The French government then sold the recording, again without permission or public announcement, to EMI. EMI allowed Enigma to use the recording as a sample track for their song. So, promoting world culture, huh.But hopefully things changed since the 80s...I'd like to find Duanas' version, too.I hate it how everyone thinks it's Enigma's composition.
ivanakis76 3 years ago 6
In 1988 Difang and Igay went to France to sing on a tour. They and roughly 30 other aboriginal Taiwanese artists were paid $15 a day for this privilege. Their performances were recorded without their knowledge by the Maison des Cultures du Monde (Institute for World Cultures).
ivanakis76 3 years ago
Too bad Enigma doesn't know how to credit anyone...oh, well, they had to give to the Amis of Taiwan, so it ended well.
Rest in peace, Difang.
tracermunk 3 years ago 7
Does anyone know how to get to listen to the original version of the chorus?
rtvtrvbtrbrtdbrtrtb 3 years ago 2
There is a CD called "Circle of Life" by the people who produced Deep Forest. Basically, you're looking for:
Difang & Igay Duana (郭英男 & 郭秀珠) - Circle of Life
**Probably, you only need to look up Difang...but this CD is hard to find, you'd have much more luck getting it in Taiwan (or having a Taiwanese friend get it for you...maybe check Ebay).
tracermunk 3 years ago
It's from 1998. This song is from 1994. I read that the song this samples for is from 1988.
rtvtrvbtrbrtdbrtrtb 3 years ago
You won't find the original sample, but he recorded it without instruments for the album I listed above...the same song, called the "Elder's Song" (also known under a few other names).
tracermunk 3 years ago
How did Cretu get to know the original version?
rtvtrvbtrbrtdbrtrtb 3 years ago
Taiwanese Aboriginal is good...!
TaipeiDidi 3 years ago 6
Original version by Difang Duana from Taiwanese Aboriginal.
mimosakhoo 3 years ago 5
生命之歌
heroliuw 4 years ago 2
非常好听的音乐,优美而动听。。
xp9921 4 years ago 2
finally finally! I have been looking for this for ages! Thanks a lot for posting. I came across this melody once some years ago and then the melody seemed implanted in my mind -- simply can not chase away. Now I got it save in my fav... disregard the name some Taiwanese call themselves, I love this music and I believe this is typically Taiwanese --nothing to do with Holland.
aawpiano2007 4 years ago 9
It is true, pure, Taiwanese, actually, it is the aboriginal in Taiwan..
VincentMLE 4 years ago 2
which is true Taiwanese, as you pointed out.
Love Taiwan.
tracermunk 3 years ago 2
很完美的聲音..我都哭了
niniwu 4 years ago 3
令人感動的聲音
Marcus0955 4 years ago 3
頑張ってください ! 台湾
Jatt222 4 years ago 6
thank you.
A na da mo, Gan ba re.
VincentMLE 4 years ago
if only they let Difang sing the whole thing... that's some fucked up english lyrics >.>
kobiianardo 4 years ago 4
I agree. At least the 1st verse.
rtvtrvbtrbrtdbrtrtb 4 years ago
Awesome!!! Sound from the heaven...
joysource 4 years ago 5
好喜歡的歌~
有種裸奔的感覺...
kailouer1777 4 years ago
其實台灣人喜歡自稱福爾摩莎還挺可議的
畢竟是荷蘭人給的稱呼 有那麼一點帝國殖民色彩
而且還是個世界各地都有的名稱
荷蘭人到過的地方常可見到這麼一個命名
其中面積最大的是阿根廷的福爾摩沙
如果要表現原始的精神 原住民的精神 應該是用那魯灣
如果要表現漢人精神 應該就用台灣
用福爾摩沙實在有那麼點怪異
mthsu 4 years ago
是葡萄牙人給的稱號 不是荷蘭人
所以沒有殖民的問題
請先研讀好台灣歷史吧
免得出糗啦
pocachen 4 years ago 2
這是歷史的一個階段性
並不代表一切啊
既然是好的就選好的啊
不要自己想的那麼複雜嘛
你說是不是啊
TaipeiDidi 1 year ago
@mthsu 福爾摩沙不是荷蘭人取的,是葡萄牙人在經過台灣時取的。福爾摩沙((意思為美麗的島嶼
Jacky19880120 1 year ago
@mthsu
Jacky19880120 1 year ago
TAIWAN GO!!!
jiffy0903 4 years ago 4
Those who say Formosa as slave name is not only stupid but disgusting.
God bless Taiwan, Ilha Formosa--the beautiful island.
CodyYes 4 years ago 4
wonderful song nice singer
nice voice from Taiwanese native
love Taiwan love others kind
abinent 4 years ago 3
Let's pray for Taiwan for being free of those red asses~
sergio7382 4 years ago
Wow, if the ami weren't credited for their contribution, we'd never know the origins of the song and the meaning behind it. Big music companies suing youtube for copyright infringement? Perhaps it isn't to much to ask them to look at themselves first.
ellebaba2 4 years ago
I think its only right if you credit someone when you use their work, especially if the chanting part makes up 50% of the entire song. the male aborigine singer's voice is etheral and strong. Haunting indeed.
There were articles that the chant is from the tribe's "Jubilant drinking song" which is sung with friends in celebration. Because the tribe lives near the sea, the chant moves like waves breaking against the sea rock.
ellebaba2 4 years ago
一个來自台灣原住民的聲音
動聼...
joysource 4 years ago 3
I remember that the singer's name was Knu something... and was in his 70's at the time. But, I dunno. I haven't looked really deep into the subject. I just know that it explains why I don't like Enigma's other songs! And has opened a whole new world.. of Taiwan. Whoo!
EmmyNokie 4 years ago
I remember the singer having another name... Knu something... In his late 70's at the time, not sure how long ago... Anyway. This song means more to me since I learned where the chanting came from. Opens up a whole new world! It also explains why I dislike other Enigma songs, since the chanting isn't even theirs.
EmmyNokie 4 years ago
Yes, Enigma borrows a lot from other works. So is this Difang Duana character supposed to be the chanter at the beginning or the soloist? Cause I thought it was said he's the soloist. I remember he was listed as 'Angel' in the CD cover paper.
They both sound nice, but I think the soloist has a truly amazing voice :) kinda girlish too :P
TheReaverOfDarkness 4 years ago
I have no idea who Difang Duana is... I have learned that it was Kuo Ying-nan and Kuo Hsiu-chu who did all the chanting, and that their song was pretty much stolen by Enigma.
EmmyNokie 4 years ago
Enigma borrows under permission, or so they say. I wouldn't think they'd get away with so much use of popular material if they didn't get permission.
TheReaverOfDarkness 4 years ago
The thing with the chanting was that it wasn't popular. *scratches head* It's now like there's 2 sources for it, which is very confusing. Searching on Google "enigma return to innocence court" I can find information on how they were sued for using the chanting without premission. That it was sampled. Hm. Maybe they had someone else chant it, or something.
EmmyNokie 4 years ago
heh wow...this um...brings out a whole new face of Enigma. And they always seemed so innocent to me. Methinks I should look into this more.
TheReaverOfDarkness 4 years ago
I read some things quick, so deeper research would probably be needed to fully understand. Maybe I should go back and try to read up again XD
EmmyNokie 4 years ago
Hardly anyone(including me) knew the original version.
rtvtrvbtrbrtdbrtrtb 4 years ago 2
Difang Duana = Kuo Ying-nan
Igay Duana = Kuo Hsiu-chu
Many Aborigines have adopted Chinese names to avoid discrimination.
When was the last time you met a Native America with name like "Cloud in the Wind"?
milvipes 3 years ago 5
wow. interesting discovery!
I will be in Taiwan this September..cant wait!
mkayly 4 years ago 2
Ilha Formosa! i love taiwan! wink :)
sweetladee510 5 years ago 3