Goddammit here we go again. Billy makes an intelligent business move and people bitch and moan because they want to be SP's hipster fan base and act like he's abandoning them. News flash, billy wants money and for his music to be heard, of course he's going to advertise it.
He's making fun of you, in a fun way. To make a point. That is what the song is worth to HIM: a Visa commercial. He's trying to get rid of the song. To show its frailty. It was revolutionary, but he has GROWN. He isn't interested in the song anymore. It isn't his masterpiece anymore, if it ever was at all.
Billy did this to tell everyone to get over the past. The past is in the past. Let's look toward the future. Corgan and
the "Smashing Pumpkins" moniker is releasing some of the best alternative rock music to be released in YEARS and people think it sucks because they would rather listen to a confused, 24 year-old BILLY BOY than glean the pearls William Patrick Corgan now has to offer. It's a crying shame, because I don't even know if the next generation will EVER be able to understand it now. But hey, they're playing for a relatively small crowd here in LA on Oct 5 at the Wiltern. I'll be there!
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The only reason the right's to Today were sold was that Billy could build a recording studio so that he could produce music FOR FREE for YOU! TBK (Teargarden) was only partly possible through the funding of selling the rights of Today! I didn't know selling the rights to one song to produce FREE music for you was selling out! Or leaving their record company!? It seems like their doing the exact opposite to me! He's giving you 44 fricken songs for Free? How much more do you want?
This might be the best/worst pairing of a commercial and song at the same time. But I love the irony of the song, and I think that's what he was going for. The song is very upbeat sounding despite its dark lyrics, so it's a good juxtaposition. I liked the use of the intro for this commercial, but when you get down to it, it's a poor fit.
This is not selling out. This is how the music business works. For one, Billy and everyone are probably laughing considering this song is about killing yourself.
Selling out would be if they wrote a jingle for Visa®
Selling out happens at the creative level, not when your first major breakthrough single makes it into a commercial almost twenty-years after its conception. Pretty sure D'Arcy, Iha and Chamberlin want a little cash too.
Billy has bills to pay. I am sure he would rather not have to resort to this if he could. Besides, I think this commercial came out when the Pumpkins were on hiatus.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE STORY ONLY: Tom 14 he's a Bieber fan but he hears this awesome song and run to his father and ask "What was that song on the VISA Commercial his father say "Son, that was by a band from the 1990s named The Smashing Pumpkins. It's called Today". Tom runs up stairs and listens to it fall for Smashing Pumpkins and is saved from a life Bieber Lady Ga Ga junk.
Todaaay is the greaaatest day i've ever known/ just got my royaaaalty check from Visaa/ now i can eat/ I'll burn my eyes out/ cuz rent's do soon/ and if i dont get another i'll have to move from Malibu/ I'll tear my heaart out/ mov'n to Rancho Cucamonga / Todaay is the greaatest day i've ever known / don't have to move to Rancho / cuz the checks in mail / I wanted more than life could give / kick'n it in Malibu away from you pigs / Todaaay is greatest day i've known/ luv my zip code & new phone/
doing song placements and product promotion is more commonplace than it was years ago. there's less of a stigma about 'selling out'
in fact, since people don't buy music anymore, licensing songs to movies, TV etc is one of the main income streams for musicians (along with live performances)
gosh, this selling out stuff people are on about is rubbish. So what he made some fuckin cash over a song he wrote. Does that suddenly make the songs shit or something.
So what? The Smashing Pumpkins are still incredible and at Billy's age, who are we to begrudge him a little pay dirt after years of writing, recording and touring? 24-year olds make great rock stars. But at 45, to finance a lifestyle to which you've become accustomed, it takes a little "buying in" (not "selling out") to the media-industrial complex to maintain. I say: Congratulations Billy! You've earned it.
lol i remember when this commercial first came out i was actually happy because i love the smashing pumpkins and selling a song to be used for a major company maybe lost them some credibility but i bet alot of people who didnt know them took a liking to them
There's nothing wrong with him selling the song for use in a commercial. The problem I have with it is that BC was so adamantly stating that he'd never do this then a short time later turning around and doing exactly that. It's the hypocrisy I have issue with. In general he's a hypocrite. And this is just one out of many, many examples of this.
@TomEvision It wasn't recently, it was about 5 years, I wouldn't call it hipocracy, I'd call it a guy saying, 'You know what, why not get some money out of a song I made' There's a difference about changing your mind and being a hypocrite.
@TheSPumpkin100 That's just ridiculous.That is an excuse every hypocrite can then justify their behaviour with. Was BC broke at the time of this commercial? No he was already a millionaire.It's not like he needed the cash. If the money he made from this commercial was given to poor farmers in Uganda it might be different. Judging by your net name I doubt BC could ever do wrong in your eyes.People like making money.Why pretend otherwise?
@HeavySabre70 He does like making money, yeah, but Who doesn't? Also, the reason he sold it was to fund Martha's music. I still think that it was just him changing his mind. If he did it like, a few months after he said he wouldn't, that would be stupid, but 5 years is totally different. The truth is: We don't know whether it was a quick decision or if it was thought about for a few years, so We can't really criticize him for it *Shrug*
Why is "sell out" such a dirty phrase? Billy Corgan is still the same humble guy he always was. He just wants to make some money LIKE WE ALL DO. So what if he cut a deal with Visa? Good for him. Anyone who calls him a sell out for this is just a fat idiot who wishes they had even an ounce of Billy's talent so they can do the same thing. Haters
Selling your girlfriend for sex, is alot alot alot different then selling your music.
He sells his albums to people all over the world, you are funding his purpose of being a mucision, Now that it's the other way and a industrial compant wants to use one of his songs, he's now considered a "sellout" people should think before they type and try to insult billy.
lol at eradictators comment. Makes sense, the reason why I love this commercial besides the fact that Pumpkins are being played here is because the song Today is not a happy song and it totally represents what eradictator said in his comment.
@Gamagachee It's a happy sounding song and that's all that matters. If you take what BC said about this song years after the song was a hit, then yes it's not a happy song. But taking it at face value, most people would walk away saying it is a happy song.
@Gamagachee It's a happy sounding song and that's all that matters. If you take what BC said about this song years after the song was a hit, then yes it's not a happy song. But taking it at face value, most people would walk away saying it is a happy song.
i don't think it's cuz they're jealous, there is an interview here on youtube where billy says he will never ever ever put his music into commercials cuz SP's music means so much to so many people, and he'll protect that. but i think Virgin used the song without his permission. i read D'arcy and Iha are suing virgin for this commercial, i think. but anyways, u can find that vid i was talking about by searching "billy corgan protecting music"
if you went to see the pumpkins in nottingham uk after following them for so long and then have william walk off stage because the place wasn't sold out you would think he was a twat as well. axel rose has more manners. i met both of them over the years. hey billy wanna buy all the vinyls you ever released cause i got them all in the attic. twatbag
I don't care what people say about billy selling out... it's a cool ad.... and at some point it'll get to new zealand and then everytime I turn on the tv i can hear SP!!!!! Why shouldn't he make some dosh outta it? It cool. :-)
i don't get you people. if you want to have a career as a musician, you have to make money. Just like any other job. Personally, I think he might have been trying to fund this new 44 song double album, so no one should be complaining that he's making money, especially since this album is gonna be for free.
i'm not saying mixing music and commercials is good. they actually have little to do with each other. but this whole "indie cred" thing with its precious little rules about how a band has to be and what it has say/do, is Bullshit. just because he decides to change his mind and make the money does not mean we should hate him for it. "Today" is still a great song. Billy Corgan is not a jingle writer. He still makes great SP music (not for commercials), so I wouldn't consider it "selling out".
@d3reilly "it's these little 'indie rules' that separate us from bands like nickleback and shitty pop acts, they sell there music everywhere they can. i like to call these people "corporate whores"
well I hate Nickelback, but I also believe music should not have sides. It should be all-inclusive. Yes corporate pop is part of the problem, but the other part is all the hipster snobs and their rules. And a lot of artists use "indie" to hide behind because they don't have the talent or the effort to make it on a bigger level. thats not to say that all indie music is bad. i listen to a lot of it. But its [indie] is not a genre. Its a fad. and music is not simply good by virtue of being "indie".
billy is actually sewing virging records for bringing that song out for a comercial without his permission. Know before you judge, or better, don't judge.
I agree with most of you is a shame that Corgan has come to this type of shit crying around for money and getting paid, hasn´t him make enough money in his career? I remember him bitching about money for the ¨zero¨ shirt sold without his permision, then talking in congres about money and then also fighting to Zwan members because all they wanted to eat during the tour (back then) was lobster every night and that was too expensive, Corgan said. So is it only about money? Sad shit!
I agree with Alex the Great on this one- it's both ironic and amusing that visa chose the song today (which is about thoughts of suicide) in their commercial. I guess it's kind of fitting, with the economy being so bad, so it's like they are saying "let's think positive, today IS the greatest day, so great that I'm going to open a new visa credit card to pay my bills off, all the while getting further into debt while stimulating the economy. Kind of does make you feel like ending it, lol
I can see the light in the descision to liscense the song for a credit card company. Afterall everything happening now is about the economy and hey why not get a little exposure from that. Really I think it says more about the times we live in then anything.
There's nothing wrong with selling out. By going to work every day and devoting your time to someone else's dollar/power, you are selling out. It is Corgan's job to sell his music. HOWEVER. Corgan has gone on record saying that his music is sacred and blah blah he'd never do anything like this, and that is where the issue lies. Not in the actual act of selling out, but in the integrity of Corgan's word. He never should have said that, 'cause any smart person would sell out, and he did.
If you people could look past the "BILLY SOLD OUT OMG" sentiment for a second, you can see why this ad is really funny. Today is about suicide, great song choice there, Visa. Now I'll think about killing myself every time I whip out my plastic!
no, you're the idiot who believes in the false claims corgan makes to make himself seem holy and noble. he specifically said that his music means a great deal to so many people that he will never EVER put it in a television commercial EVER. vmrazek, you are the idiot here. you you you. YOU
what does it matter which song it is, we obviously didn't pay him enough money for him to stand up for his own claims, so he must not care whether or not we listen to it anyway
Good Gosh what the heck is you problem!!! i was just wondering what the song was then i found out so calm down your comment has nothing to do with my situation on the subject x_x
I have a VISA card. Sometimes I use it to buy CDs off Amazon. Shit. What a dick I am. Seriously people, get a grip. Who cares? Its hardly fking war is it? Go get some real issues.
ARRRGGGGHHH!!!!! I can't believe it! Billy said he would never do this! He said this music means too much to people to cheapen it by putting it in a commercial :-(
I know! I find it almost sickening that he has... AND the fact that he said the pumpkins would never reunite, yet they did: with only 2 remaining members... and now only 1! Billy should just continue with his own solo music... and stop wrecking the memory of the pumpkins for all us committed fans (even though either way we'll still love them!). Ultimate respect to Jimmy though for ending his part in the charade!
I was making dinner and I swear I thought I was hearing things. Like my whole family stopped and looked at me...(moment of silence). Then I was happy to see it played on a commercial. I mean it came out in 1993 and it still has relevance. I'm black and I love SP. It being played on a commercial gave my family a chance to see that SP music is still relevant even in the present day. I wish they would take over more commercials.
whatever man, it's great to know the Pumpkins are so popular in their own time that Visa would even care for a band most people have neglected as one of the best outside of the real smashing pumpkins community. Hope all the best from Billy Corgan with his new Pumpkins: himself.
it's the one line in their "today is the greatest" and the catchy notes and riffs that they bought, not the actual meaning of the song. And also, Today was actually written about having a great day
ya but then it says gouge my eyes out. tear my heart out nd stuff like that, its alot deeper then the today is the greatest line. but i gess thats not important to sellin a card so i will kindly stfu ;)
Actually I heard that Today was written by Billy because he was really suicidal at the time and by saying "Today is the greatest day" gave it more emotional closure by having a strange ironic twist.
But this is great. Just great. Like watching the sky fall down one day. What happened to the music Billy.... ? :'(
Siamese Dream wasn't made by the Billy Corgan of the present and I can sill enjoy it. It's like you wish you and your friend from school could have just parted ways earlier on instead of gradually becoming more hostile to one another. SP and I didn't end on very good terms ;_;
I don't know what to think about this. Sometimes I think the advert has destroyed the meaning of the song, whereas sometimes I think it shows that the Smashing Pumpkins are still being recognised, which should be a good thing.
im not sure thats entirely accurate. it was written when he was seriously considering committing suicide. after he wrote and played the song he decided not to kill himself
i think the song is really fitting for this commercial. idk what the band has officially said about the song, but songs can usually be open to interpretation, even if thats not what the writer originally meant. i dont think its selling out cuz its not on some crappy commercial, this is actually well-done and thought-provoking
Seriously, what's everyone's problem with this?!? Billy has the right to do what he wants with his music! It's not about "selling out", whatever that BS saying implies. He was opposed to selling his music out to advertisers before but he has as much right as anyone else to change his mind when he deems it necessary. Get over yourselves. I mean it. Get a friggen grip and just be happy that Billy's music is still in such high demand. Good for you, SP!
I love how the subject of the song is COMPLETELY UNRELATED and is in fact DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED to the subject of the commercial. Like 'Lust for Life' for Carnival Cruise Lines or anytime a pro-America anything uses 'Born In The USA'.
did the cubs win the world series?
billy said he would give the rights to use his music for comercial reasons as soon as the cubs won the world series.
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And? Who gives a fuck? He made some money from licensing his song. Big deal. Why should it affect how I feel about his music?
neilmatharoo 3 weeks ago
Goddammit here we go again. Billy makes an intelligent business move and people bitch and moan because they want to be SP's hipster fan base and act like he's abandoning them. News flash, billy wants money and for his music to be heard, of course he's going to advertise it.
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Ramoa111 2 months ago
"More people Go with Visa"
I'm assuming by "Go" he means commit suicide
cerisskies 2 months ago
Everyone has a price...
jacklegg21 3 months ago
this is just gross
777Lateralus 5 months ago
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Corgan.
Is.
The man.
He's making fun of you, in a fun way. To make a point. That is what the song is worth to HIM: a Visa commercial. He's trying to get rid of the song. To show its frailty. It was revolutionary, but he has GROWN. He isn't interested in the song anymore. It isn't his masterpiece anymore, if it ever was at all.
Billy did this to tell everyone to get over the past. The past is in the past. Let's look toward the future. Corgan and
deanthebeanmachine1 6 months ago
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the "Smashing Pumpkins" moniker is releasing some of the best alternative rock music to be released in YEARS and people think it sucks because they would rather listen to a confused, 24 year-old BILLY BOY than glean the pearls William Patrick Corgan now has to offer. It's a crying shame, because I don't even know if the next generation will EVER be able to understand it now. But hey, they're playing for a relatively small crowd here in LA on Oct 5 at the Wiltern. I'll be there!
deanthebeanmachine1 6 months ago
i thought billy didn't want to sell out.
justinp5960 6 months ago
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corkey04 6 months ago
I love it, they pick a song was created because the singer contemplated suicide, lol.
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StrikeTsunami 8 months ago
The only reason the right's to Today were sold was that Billy could build a recording studio so that he could produce music FOR FREE for YOU! TBK (Teargarden) was only partly possible through the funding of selling the rights of Today! I didn't know selling the rights to one song to produce FREE music for you was selling out! Or leaving their record company!? It seems like their doing the exact opposite to me! He's giving you 44 fricken songs for Free? How much more do you want?
jackosmithy 10 months ago 20
@jackosmithy What load of crap. As if the guy is short in cash.
Ramoa111 2 months ago
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unorock4life 1 year ago
Is that Morgan Freeman's voice?
toseeornot2see 1 year ago
@toseeornot2see not too sure
LoveNeden 8 months ago
This might be the best/worst pairing of a commercial and song at the same time. But I love the irony of the song, and I think that's what he was going for. The song is very upbeat sounding despite its dark lyrics, so it's a good juxtaposition. I liked the use of the intro for this commercial, but when you get down to it, it's a poor fit.
wolfdemexico 1 year ago
This is not selling out. This is how the music business works. For one, Billy and everyone are probably laughing considering this song is about killing yourself.
Selling out would be if they wrote a jingle for Visa®
donut2790 1 year ago
I love those tags Smashing Pumpkins Billy Corgan VISA Commercial Today Suicide Sell-out
nicholsjoshua15 1 year ago
Selling out happens at the creative level, not when your first major breakthrough single makes it into a commercial almost twenty-years after its conception. Pretty sure D'Arcy, Iha and Chamberlin want a little cash too.
Nu63 1 year ago 3
Billy has bills to pay. I am sure he would rather not have to resort to this if he could. Besides, I think this commercial came out when the Pumpkins were on hiatus.
keithrig 1 year ago
Ugh, can we STOP with the "Sellout" shit???
YouCantDeleteDenzelL 1 year ago 5
Much bigger bands have done the same thing Billy has done with his music. They created it, so they can do whatever the fuck they wanna do with it.
thetheRedundant 1 year ago
@thetheRedundant Not to mention all the free music and donations he makes, dude's gotta pay for it somehow.
Begaychris 1 year ago
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE STORY ONLY: Tom 14 he's a Bieber fan but he hears this awesome song and run to his father and ask "What was that song on the VISA Commercial his father say "Son, that was by a band from the 1990s named The Smashing Pumpkins. It's called Today". Tom runs up stairs and listens to it fall for Smashing Pumpkins and is saved from a life Bieber Lady Ga Ga junk.
nicholsjoshua15 1 year ago 4
Todaaay is the greaaatest day i've ever known/ just got my royaaaalty check from Visaa/ now i can eat/ I'll burn my eyes out/ cuz rent's do soon/ and if i dont get another i'll have to move from Malibu/ I'll tear my heaart out/ mov'n to Rancho Cucamonga / Todaay is the greaatest day i've ever known / don't have to move to Rancho / cuz the checks in mail / I wanted more than life could give / kick'n it in Malibu away from you pigs / Todaaay is greatest day i've known/ luv my zip code & new phone/
sheetmetalMirrors 1 year ago
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sunchild90 1 year ago
doing song placements and product promotion is more commonplace than it was years ago. there's less of a stigma about 'selling out'
in fact, since people don't buy music anymore, licensing songs to movies, TV etc is one of the main income streams for musicians (along with live performances)
dubconcrete 1 year ago 4
gosh, this selling out stuff people are on about is rubbish. So what he made some fuckin cash over a song he wrote. Does that suddenly make the songs shit or something.
juniwilliams 1 year ago
@juniwilliams u r right
angelizer999 1 year ago
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nucleosoguevera 1 year ago
So what? The Smashing Pumpkins are still incredible and at Billy's age, who are we to begrudge him a little pay dirt after years of writing, recording and touring? 24-year olds make great rock stars. But at 45, to finance a lifestyle to which you've become accustomed, it takes a little "buying in" (not "selling out") to the media-industrial complex to maintain. I say: Congratulations Billy! You've earned it.
closer71 1 year ago
lol i remember when this commercial first came out i was actually happy because i love the smashing pumpkins and selling a song to be used for a major company maybe lost them some credibility but i bet alot of people who didnt know them took a liking to them
j1nt3tsu 1 year ago
There's nothing wrong with him selling the song for use in a commercial. The problem I have with it is that BC was so adamantly stating that he'd never do this then a short time later turning around and doing exactly that. It's the hypocrisy I have issue with. In general he's a hypocrite. And this is just one out of many, many examples of this.
TomEvision 1 year ago
@TomEvision It wasn't recently, it was about 5 years, I wouldn't call it hipocracy, I'd call it a guy saying, 'You know what, why not get some money out of a song I made' There's a difference about changing your mind and being a hypocrite.
TheSPumpkin100 1 year ago
@TheSPumpkin100 That's just ridiculous.That is an excuse every hypocrite can then justify their behaviour with. Was BC broke at the time of this commercial? No he was already a millionaire.It's not like he needed the cash. If the money he made from this commercial was given to poor farmers in Uganda it might be different. Judging by your net name I doubt BC could ever do wrong in your eyes.People like making money.Why pretend otherwise?
HeavySabre70 1 year ago
@HeavySabre70 He does like making money, yeah, but Who doesn't? Also, the reason he sold it was to fund Martha's music. I still think that it was just him changing his mind. If he did it like, a few months after he said he wouldn't, that would be stupid, but 5 years is totally different. The truth is: We don't know whether it was a quick decision or if it was thought about for a few years, so We can't really criticize him for it *Shrug*
TheSPumpkin100 1 year ago
@HeavySabre70 Implying that billy is a millionaire...
Fool.
BboyStepsReborn 1 year ago
@BboyStepsReborn look it up. his net worth is like 50 million dollars. fucker stacks paper to the ceiling and rides on 24 inch chrome.
brainlechuga 1 year ago
Why is "sell out" such a dirty phrase? Billy Corgan is still the same humble guy he always was. He just wants to make some money LIKE WE ALL DO. So what if he cut a deal with Visa? Good for him. Anyone who calls him a sell out for this is just a fat idiot who wishes they had even an ounce of Billy's talent so they can do the same thing. Haters
Kabucow 1 year ago
Visa. Buy today. Pay tomorrow.
TheCanyonpascal 1 year ago
Ugh...Billy Corgan is a hollow shell of his former self
theglovesd 1 year ago 2
I think Billy figured out that people now, do really need hope, in the face of global financial, ecological crisis.
he wanted to give the world a reason to keep going as this song gave to him in 1993 when he wanted to commit suicide.
I think it's very generous of him to share with nopumpkin-fans this beautiful message which "Today" is
friendsandenemiesofu 2 years ago
who cares u sad rejects
dennyh86 2 years ago
haha, i think it's funny that this song is really about suicide, in a visa commercial really? pick a different song.
But whatever if he "sold out" It's his music, his brilliant mind wrote it and owns it, and he can do whatever the fuck he wants with it.
End.
jesusisscene 2 years ago
@jesusisscene Yeah he can chose what he wants to do, but that don't make it the right choice... I mean i could sell my g/f for sex... but i don't.
sunchild90 2 years ago
Selling your girlfriend for sex, is alot alot alot different then selling your music.
He sells his albums to people all over the world, you are funding his purpose of being a mucision, Now that it's the other way and a industrial compant wants to use one of his songs, he's now considered a "sellout" people should think before they type and try to insult billy.
jesusisscene 2 years ago
@jesusisscene hmm i guess you just don't understand
sunchild90 2 years ago
And of couse, the "You just don't understand" reply when someone can't think of anything better to say because they know there right.
jesusisscene 2 years ago
@jesusisscene Most ppl don't even know it's about suicide. And honestly before SP did Storytellers, most fans didn't even know it was about suicide.
TomEvision 1 year ago
oh my fucking god this makes me pukey
ed711b 2 years ago
Morgan Freeman in the blue ice-cream truck!
Floskeknosk 2 years ago
lol at eradictators comment. Makes sense, the reason why I love this commercial besides the fact that Pumpkins are being played here is because the song Today is not a happy song and it totally represents what eradictator said in his comment.
Gamagachee 2 years ago
@Gamagachee It's a happy sounding song and that's all that matters. If you take what BC said about this song years after the song was a hit, then yes it's not a happy song. But taking it at face value, most people would walk away saying it is a happy song.
TomEvision 1 year ago
@Gamagachee It's a happy sounding song and that's all that matters. If you take what BC said about this song years after the song was a hit, then yes it's not a happy song. But taking it at face value, most people would walk away saying it is a happy song.
TomEvision 1 year ago
A) The only people that call other people sellouts are either just jealous or broke bitches.
B) I would be honored to have a song I wrote in a commercial being voiced by Morgan Freeman.
endocry 2 years ago
i don't think it's cuz they're jealous, there is an interview here on youtube where billy says he will never ever ever put his music into commercials cuz SP's music means so much to so many people, and he'll protect that. but i think Virgin used the song without his permission. i read D'arcy and Iha are suing virgin for this commercial, i think. but anyways, u can find that vid i was talking about by searching "billy corgan protecting music"
hellotv1 2 years ago
i dont know why everyone is calling him a sellout. this commercial could have paid for this album that will be released soon for free.
KevinKolb4 2 years ago
Billy Corgan can do whatever the fuck he wants.
Gamagachee 2 years ago 4
if you went to see the pumpkins in nottingham uk after following them for so long and then have william walk off stage because the place wasn't sold out you would think he was a twat as well. axel rose has more manners. i met both of them over the years. hey billy wanna buy all the vinyls you ever released cause i got them all in the attic. twatbag
simonjamesbeer 2 years ago
I don't care what people say about billy selling out... it's a cool ad.... and at some point it'll get to new zealand and then everytime I turn on the tv i can hear SP!!!!! Why shouldn't he make some dosh outta it? It cool. :-)
officiallydisarmed 2 years ago
gotta love the song, its a masterpiece... but in a commercial..?
kaxiia 2 years ago
i don't get you people. if you want to have a career as a musician, you have to make money. Just like any other job. Personally, I think he might have been trying to fund this new 44 song double album, so no one should be complaining that he's making money, especially since this album is gonna be for free.
d3reilly 2 years ago
@d3reilly trying to fund his album?... yeah ;cos i'm sure he's broke... wish i could sell my ass to record my bands next album
sunchild90 2 years ago
i'm not saying mixing music and commercials is good. they actually have little to do with each other. but this whole "indie cred" thing with its precious little rules about how a band has to be and what it has say/do, is Bullshit. just because he decides to change his mind and make the money does not mean we should hate him for it. "Today" is still a great song. Billy Corgan is not a jingle writer. He still makes great SP music (not for commercials), so I wouldn't consider it "selling out".
d3reilly 2 years ago 2
@d3reilly "it's these little 'indie rules' that separate us from bands like nickleback and shitty pop acts, they sell there music everywhere they can. i like to call these people "corporate whores"
sunchild90 2 years ago
well I hate Nickelback, but I also believe music should not have sides. It should be all-inclusive. Yes corporate pop is part of the problem, but the other part is all the hipster snobs and their rules. And a lot of artists use "indie" to hide behind because they don't have the talent or the effort to make it on a bigger level. thats not to say that all indie music is bad. i listen to a lot of it. But its [indie] is not a genre. Its a fad. and music is not simply good by virtue of being "indie".
d3reilly 2 years ago
Yeah it's like when they use The Clash "London Calling" to show how fun and exciting London is when the songs about how shite London is and wad.
petehjr1 2 years ago
A credit card company using a song about suicide as its anthem.
Yep, that's about right.
emorris77 2 years ago 65
haha yeah saw this on Tv the other day, and thought that exactly.
I think they missed the context of the lyrics.
avatarwanabee24 2 years ago
@emorris77 haha that's so funny and true
artfanatsymanic 1 year ago
@emorris77
Haha, GREAT call.
ParanoidPajamas 1 year ago
@emorris77 This may be why Billy allowed it: For the irony.
elfman20 5 months ago
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@emorris77 This may be why Billy allowed it: For the irony.
elfman20 5 months ago
en español
manriquebuk 2 years ago
It's his song, he has the right to do whatever he wants to it.
itachi1452 2 years ago
haha its funny that "today" is exactly about killing yerself lol....
Coleman7293 2 years ago
Fuck Virgin..
shanezy09 2 years ago
Today is the greatest!! I just got my VISA bill for $2000!
Eradicator00987 2 years ago 40
Virgin records are such a bitch the Pumpkins we all know that. It's was definitley Virgin records, not Billy Corgan
Gamagachee 2 years ago
What's wrong with you? Who decide what is wrong and right?
Live and let live, you're mad, he have to decide what he want; and this is the kind of things that a rock star can do, ignore everyone.
ligiacalina 2 years ago
billy didnt license this ... VIRGIN RECORDS DID!!!!
samtastic1234 2 years ago 2
billy is actually sewing virging records for bringing that song out for a comercial without his permission. Know before you judge, or better, don't judge.
jan
janjongleer 2 years ago 3
yes, an ironic song for a credit card commercial.
itsDIM 2 years ago
I'm still love this music and band!
Despite of all, this is Smashing Pumpkins!
I'm not saying that Corgan don't made a terrible mistake... I'm just saying that SP can't be wasted!
=D
slowlostmotion 2 years ago
I agree with most of you is a shame that Corgan has come to this type of shit crying around for money and getting paid, hasn´t him make enough money in his career? I remember him bitching about money for the ¨zero¨ shirt sold without his permision, then talking in congres about money and then also fighting to Zwan members because all they wanted to eat during the tour (back then) was lobster every night and that was too expensive, Corgan said. So is it only about money? Sad shit!
jo5erock 2 years ago
Wow Billy Corgan is a bitch now.
yakker21 2 years ago
its not his fault this got put on... the record comoany controlls the songs
samtastic1234 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
WHATS THE NAME OF THE SONG!!!!?????
nickjonasmeso 2 years ago
today
zackmeadows1 2 years ago
PINK RIBBON SCARS CARVED INTO MY ARMS WITH CREDIT CARDZZZZZZZZZz
mggimcg 2 years ago 5
What that fuck!
Krause05 2 years ago
very interesting considering that this song is about suicide and that visa is about having a good day and moving forward
richardnixonisgod 2 years ago 5
"I have rathered suffer than be a fool." Billy Corgan
You have changed, Billy?
The song is about suicide "A can't get any worse kind of number." Billy Corgan
ForgottenSoul700 2 years ago
Is the song about suicide? I didn't knew it!
jdsm2007 2 years ago
I agree with Alex the Great on this one- it's both ironic and amusing that visa chose the song today (which is about thoughts of suicide) in their commercial. I guess it's kind of fitting, with the economy being so bad, so it's like they are saying "let's think positive, today IS the greatest day, so great that I'm going to open a new visa credit card to pay my bills off, all the while getting further into debt while stimulating the economy. Kind of does make you feel like ending it, lol
ThornINallSIDEs 2 years ago 5
Yeah, the song could be about suicide but it says ''Today is the greates day I've ever known!'' Agree with you!
jdsm2007 2 years ago
when i saw it on tv i was like holy s$%t thats f@#$%^&* today
RHCP067 2 years ago 3
I'm a huge pumpkin head I admit. But i was more amused by this than anything. I don't think VISA realized what this song is really about.
Listen to the lyrics, it's a 100% suicide/depression song. So go with Visa if you want to die is their message i guess? lol
AlexTheGreat89 2 years ago 4
I felt a piece of myself die when I saw this commercial and heard the song. Sell out seems to nice a thing to say.
HeartSe7en 2 years ago
I saw this commercial yesterday in Mexican Television.
molinasantander 2 years ago
I can see the light in the descision to liscense the song for a credit card company. Afterall everything happening now is about the economy and hey why not get a little exposure from that. Really I think it says more about the times we live in then anything.
tunesmith 2 years ago
Kill yourself.
Cmoneyblingin 2 years ago
That's a little harsh, ain't it, Cmoney?
database251 2 years ago
Sorry, I find apologies for the erosion of artistic integrity absolutely disgusting.
Cmoneyblingin 2 years ago
There's nothing wrong with selling out. By going to work every day and devoting your time to someone else's dollar/power, you are selling out. It is Corgan's job to sell his music. HOWEVER. Corgan has gone on record saying that his music is sacred and blah blah he'd never do anything like this, and that is where the issue lies. Not in the actual act of selling out, but in the integrity of Corgan's word. He never should have said that, 'cause any smart person would sell out, and he did.
gongargongar 2 years ago 3
If you people could look past the "BILLY SOLD OUT OMG" sentiment for a second, you can see why this ad is really funny. Today is about suicide, great song choice there, Visa. Now I'll think about killing myself every time I whip out my plastic!
joeb223 2 years ago
"billy sold out, billy sold out..."
you guys are idiots.
thats a lot of damn money. who wouldn't want to take it?
"oh well I don't want to conform to the norm and be a sell out."
Oh please. at least he has a very famous song to sell out.
what do you have to show for your bitching about it? a youtube comment?
vmrazek 2 years ago
no, you're the idiot who believes in the false claims corgan makes to make himself seem holy and noble. he specifically said that his music means a great deal to so many people that he will never EVER put it in a television commercial EVER. vmrazek, you are the idiot here. you you you. YOU
a5987b 2 years ago 3
sure. if it makes you feel better.
vmrazek 2 years ago
"that's a lot of damn money, who wouldn't want to take it?"
ur a loser on top of being an idiot. that makes me feel better too
a5987b 2 years ago
yeah what happened to the alternative stance?
what happened to "i wont sell out my fans" blabla.
i can see his point of view but frankly i feel betrayed as an honest pumpkin fan.
i mean , we bought his record and cherished it and went to his gigs. wasn't that enough money?
phatjesus008 2 years ago 2
what smashing pumpkins song is this?
slappykitty4 2 years ago
You've got to be joking
gongargongar 2 years ago
lol sorry XD i didnt look very well o_O i looked after i posted the comment and found it XD
slappykitty4 2 years ago
what does it matter which song it is, we obviously didn't pay him enough money for him to stand up for his own claims, so he must not care whether or not we listen to it anyway
mrchuckmorris 2 years ago
Good Gosh what the heck is you problem!!! i was just wondering what the song was then i found out so calm down your comment has nothing to do with my situation on the subject x_x
slappykitty4 2 years ago
Today
Knightsoldier 2 years ago
I have a VISA card. Sometimes I use it to buy CDs off Amazon. Shit. What a dick I am. Seriously people, get a grip. Who cares? Its hardly fking war is it? Go get some real issues.
headofwords 2 years ago
Morgan freeman and billy, sucking dick for the American way.
peaceandloveletsblow 2 years ago
he is a sell out!!! he said soooo many times that he would never do this!!!! LIAR!!!!
hugi331 2 years ago
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hugi331 2 years ago
after all these years dude...
Billy Corgan said he would never do this. I would love to know the reasons why.
Traviss187 2 years ago
Billy sold out... Damn.
NicoleFromQueens 2 years ago
I highly agree with you,
cross666fade 2 years ago
i dont think billy joined chris cornell..
almost but not!
bjthepumpkinguy 2 years ago
Just enjoy
Woodstockpirate 2 years ago
This brings a piece of "Today" to more people. Those of us who have already fucking lived this song can get over it. (Or not....lol.)
Knowing Billy, part of the loot probably went to charity anyway, as with the Adore tour years ago.
skivvyjones 2 years ago 3
ARRRGGGGHHH!!!!! I can't believe it! Billy said he would never do this! He said this music means too much to people to cheapen it by putting it in a commercial :-(
jadedshade 2 years ago 3
I know! I find it almost sickening that he has... AND the fact that he said the pumpkins would never reunite, yet they did: with only 2 remaining members... and now only 1! Billy should just continue with his own solo music... and stop wrecking the memory of the pumpkins for all us committed fans (even though either way we'll still love them!). Ultimate respect to Jimmy though for ending his part in the charade!
katemarie1986 2 years ago
I was making dinner and I swear I thought I was hearing things. Like my whole family stopped and looked at me...(moment of silence). Then I was happy to see it played on a commercial. I mean it came out in 1993 and it still has relevance. I'm black and I love SP. It being played on a commercial gave my family a chance to see that SP music is still relevant even in the present day. I wish they would take over more commercials.
mrcssylvester 2 years ago
Sell Out
LesterStone 2 years ago
i love this commercial. "today will you go left or right?"
jamesfolk 2 years ago
whatever man, it's great to know the Pumpkins are so popular in their own time that Visa would even care for a band most people have neglected as one of the best outside of the real smashing pumpkins community. Hope all the best from Billy Corgan with his new Pumpkins: himself.
ThisName14 2 years ago 2
either the dumbasses that made this never listened to the song, or visas make you suicidal. probably both
THNF89 2 years ago
it's the one line in their "today is the greatest" and the catchy notes and riffs that they bought, not the actual meaning of the song. And also, Today was actually written about having a great day
ThisName14 2 years ago
ya but then it says gouge my eyes out. tear my heart out nd stuff like that, its alot deeper then the today is the greatest line. but i gess thats not important to sellin a card so i will kindly stfu ;)
THNF89 2 years ago
Actually I heard that Today was written by Billy because he was really suicidal at the time and by saying "Today is the greatest day" gave it more emotional closure by having a strange ironic twist.
But this is great. Just great. Like watching the sky fall down one day. What happened to the music Billy.... ? :'(
FollyxXxFallen 2 years ago
Siamese Dream wasn't made by the Billy Corgan of the present and I can sill enjoy it. It's like you wish you and your friend from school could have just parted ways earlier on instead of gradually becoming more hostile to one another. SP and I didn't end on very good terms ;_;
SuperMelon1 2 years ago
I don't know what to think about this. Sometimes I think the advert has destroyed the meaning of the song, whereas sometimes I think it shows that the Smashing Pumpkins are still being recognised, which should be a good thing.
balltongue666 2 years ago
AWFUL AD. NOT AT ALL. SORRY
966631514 2 years ago
I admire billy crogan, BUT this made me pissed off! FUCKING SELLOUT!!!
person2829 2 years ago
Irony is this song is about suicide.
BrownFuzz23 2 years ago 3
You fucking sellout piece of shit. As a longtime Pumpkins fan, I am disgusted
scottydukes 2 years ago
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
paulthewhite 2 years ago
The pumpkins are running on their own label now. For them to put out more songs, tours and all the rest, the label needs money.
Billy is doing this so that the band can keep going for it's fans, not for monetary gain.
mrvalerian 2 years ago
Bs all people that sign record contracts do it for the money.
jezuzfreek777 2 years ago 2
LOL at :22, That happens to newbs!
ndangerously 2 years ago
This song is about depression and suicide....
Grungejunkie1180 2 years ago
im not sure thats entirely accurate. it was written when he was seriously considering committing suicide. after he wrote and played the song he decided not to kill himself
msj56 2 years ago
...so it's perfect for a credit card company! =D
ExplosiveMuddButt 2 years ago 2
i think the song is really fitting for this commercial. idk what the band has officially said about the song, but songs can usually be open to interpretation, even if thats not what the writer originally meant. i dont think its selling out cuz its not on some crappy commercial, this is actually well-done and thought-provoking
thestormlscoming 2 years ago
You should listen to interviews about the song from the 90's.
It's a completely negative song in every way.
People are just stupid and hear the first line and are like "ohhhh! a happy song!!"
AntiCitizenOne1 2 years ago 2
Seriously, what's everyone's problem with this?!? Billy has the right to do what he wants with his music! It's not about "selling out", whatever that BS saying implies. He was opposed to selling his music out to advertisers before but he has as much right as anyone else to change his mind when he deems it necessary. Get over yourselves. I mean it. Get a friggen grip and just be happy that Billy's music is still in such high demand. Good for you, SP!
Trizesta 2 years ago 6
not at all surprised... next stop, bow to the queen billy.
kindlewaters 3 years ago
Don't talk smack about the Freeman. He is the voice of bueaty!
cuffofizz 3 years ago
Also make a search for "Billy Corgan testifies on Capitol hill"
lovasip 3 years ago
Well what about Morgan Freeman who did the voice over... at the end of the day everyone is a filthy filthy whore for cash.
NewtonsStudent 3 years ago
How thorougly fucking lame.
happyfinesad 3 years ago
well no reason to live now, Billy Corgan sold his soul
Goodbye cruel world, I'll miss thee,
I kid folks, but really.
Dukkman112 3 years ago
Generation X is offfffffffffficiallly dead
fuzzyroes 3 years ago
I love how the subject of the song is COMPLETELY UNRELATED and is in fact DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED to the subject of the commercial. Like 'Lust for Life' for Carnival Cruise Lines or anytime a pro-America anything uses 'Born In The USA'.
johnnychopsocky 3 years ago
A local pension fund used "My generation" from Who on their commercial.
One of the key lines in the song is "I hope I die before I get old"
lovasip 3 years ago