What is a chemical Weapon? - English subtitles

[omarreplica19]

if you look to gaza war in 2008 in december, we see that it is illegal use, because they used in a place where many people lived, and whe have seen the images of people (palestinian) who lost 2/3 of their skin, so the israeli militants need to be punished. But as i thought, the western rgimes protect them in any way, if they kill dozens, hundreds, dousends of innocent people from muslim origin, they get no punishment, because captalism is a big lie and is selfish

[celepaska]

Lethal dose of white phosporus is equal to hydrocyanic acid: 50 mg (just 1/20 part of a gram)

[GeneralBerger]

so by the same rational, does that mean gunpowder is a chemical weapon?

[wotdoesitmatter]

This is the standard smart arse response. Quite typical of someone who doesn't understand.

Can you tell me GeneralBerger under which circumstances would the toxic properties of "gunpowder" be used to cause harm or death to animals or people?

[GeneralBerger]

It still fucking kills the person. Does it matter if you get a bullet in the hamstring and you bleed out for 10 minutes. Or if you get a WP bomb dropped on you and you burn for 30 seconds before you die.

Either way your dead. Only reason why an army would use WP would be to clear out a bunker or heavily fortified area.

Would you want to be the guy that goes into an area laid with booby traps or would you rather just called in an Airstrike?

[wotdoesitmatter]

The gunpowder doesn't kill you. The bullet does.

I knew you didn't understand and this proved it.

[GeneralBerger]

your still fucking dead or lying in a pool of your own blood agonizing for 10 minutes

[wotdoesitmatter]

Well if you want to condone or endorse the use of chemical weapons then that is up to you.

[GeneralBerger]

Tell me this. If you were part of the military and your orders were to take the city and you could either attack the city with just ground forces...or you could have air support. Which one would you take? I know I would love to have the air support

[wotdoesitmatter]

That is not the question and you know it. The video clip was an interview in response to the U.S. using WP in Fallujah, Iraq. They denied using it precisely because they knew it contravenes the rules of war i.e. using it's toxic properties to kill. Shake n Bake.

No matter how you try and justify it, if it's intended use was to harm or kill then it's against the rules of war.

Legal air support is not against the rules.

Give me the choice of a bullet or WP and I choose a bullet.

[wotdoesitmatter]

yes, war has rules.

[GeneralBerger]

what if you had to bleed out from a bullet from 10 minutes before you finally died? Would you still take that bullet?

What I am trying to illustrate is that the weapon does not matter. In war everything kills and everything hurts. Sometimes you might be shot in the head, then its quick and painless. Or times, you might get shrapnel in your neck and bleed out. It is all just random.

[wotdoesitmatter]

Well that is where you are wrong. The weapon DOES matter. There ARE rules in war.People who use banned weapons by definition have committed war CRIMES. Therefore, it DOES matter.

It seems you endorse war crimes.

[GeneralBerger]

what if by banning certain weapons and banning other things, you allow a greater crime to be committed.

Ex:

A battle is going to happen in a major city lets say New Delhi. Lets say the two sides are the Indian Army vs the Chinese Army (aka: PLA).

The Indian Army has these two options. They could either try and defend the city from the massive Chinese army. If the Chinese Army wins this battle, India loses the war.

Or they could use biological weapons and defeat the Chinese army.

[wotdoesitmatter]

WTF?

Please go elsewhere with your 'what if' questions. You know the answer and you're deliberately winding me up.

Why do I get the feeling you endorse the Holocaust too?

[cheerdiver]

@wotdoesitmatter Probably because mossade took down the twin towers!!

[NBKH8]

Raining fire, hell ya!

[dimentionalrift]

1gooddevil, Depleted Uranium is U-238, and U-238 is inert, meaning it has no radioactive emmitions that are significant enough to be even remotely concidered as hazardous. U-238 even has a nickname "chain breaker", because it prevents chain reactions by absorbing the neutrons needed for the fission of fissable materials. Why do you think the US army has employed DU in making tank shells when the shells are manually loaded - if it were as dangerous as you say, it wouldn't be in use today.

[dimentionalrift]

A quote from wikipedia: "White phosphorus (WP) is a flare- and smoke-producing incendiary device[1] or smoke-screening agent that is made from a common allotrope of the chemical element phosphorus."

"WP use is legal for purposes such as illumination and obscuring smoke, and the Chemical Weapons Convention does not list WP in its schedules of chemical weapons."

This should cover the topic!

[wotdoesitmatter]

Correct, the CWC does not list it. That doesn't mean it can't be used as one.

The guy in the video is a spokeman for the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.

He just covered the topic!

[muslumcu70]

what israel does can never be accepted! phosphor bombing the children? hamas attacks israel, israel attacks civilians!

[1gooddevil]

If you have not heard yet israel is also putting civilians in buildings and then bombing them with depleted uranium.

They allow the red cross to take the wounded only after the radioactive material as become not lethal, about 3 to 4 days. The thing they cant hide is the fact that the radioactive particle can not be washed away from the corps or the buildings. Something else the media wont tell

Watch a documentary called (Beyond treason) .

You will understand the real reason for the Iraq war.

[wotdoesitmatter]

"I don't accept that any one is immune to any international law."

International law only applies to a country if they accept it. Once accepted, it becomes law of their land.

The only way you can prosecute Israel is if you can prove they used the chemical in the way this video describes.

Like it or not, that's the way it is. I'm just stating facts.

How dare you suggest I'm "excusing massacres"

[1gooddevil]

You are misunderstanding me.

I am very busy organizing demonstrations and I sometime wright to fast.

Relax my friend none is accusing you and thank you for all your work.

Peace.

[snyphilis]

Okay... Please name what weapons deployed by aircraft contain depleted uranium...

depleted uranium is used in direct fire, high impact, non explosive munitions...

Also, if used, the radiation exposure isnt nearly high enough to cause death immediately or even in short term.

If WP is a chemical weapon in a catagory with seren or vx... then count in high explosives, gun powder, and the rations soldiers eat for sustenance.

You are a propaganda sponge. Read into weapons a bit.

[zardinuk]

I think it's used a lot more often than you think, lots of 30mm rounds used on heavy equipment are DU, there are a lot of 50 cal du rounds used, mainly when there is the threat of tank fire and stuff... they use DU in 50 cal sniper rifles sometimes? The argument here is not that we don't use DU, we do... the argument is, it's just like lead but better, better at killing. You'll never convince anybody to see things your way, unfortunately, as better killing is what brings about the uncertainty.

[marcellogentile1]

Take the question mark away.

It is illegal and it is proved that is being used.

Have a look at the links on my video descriptions.

/watch?v=FX6NjJOT9yI&watch_res­ponse

israel is a nazi creation and a apartheid terror state

BOYCOTT AND DEMONSTRATE AGAINST ISRAEL

Stop this Genocide

[wotdoesitmatter]

"it" isn't illegal for "legitimate" uses. No matter how much we want it to be.

If it can be proved they used it as chemical weapon then someone should be in The Hague for war crimes.

[marcellogentile1]

if you look in the protest video I attached to your previous video you can read the article published by time online that shows the munition the israeli are using.

For your info

United Nations Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons of 1980, that bans the use of incendiary weapons in densely inhabited civilian areas

[wotdoesitmatter]

Israel isn't a signatory of protocol iii of the convention you cite.

But this video is about what constitutes a 'chemical weapon'.

The CCW 1980 is different to the CWC.

[1gooddevil]

Ok so you are saying that if I don't agree that the international community is making a law and any body can just refuse that law and that should make them any immune? WTF are you talking about? Phosphors is a chemical. Just google tha fucking thing man. Or I'll make it easy for you go to wikipedia and read. israel is massmurdering people live on television. /watch?v=mCFq_CgqT8k What israel is doing is genocide. WAR CRIMES. Murdering of civilians in their own homes I

[wotdoesitmatter]

Yes, phosphorus is a chemical. Are you saying that chemicals aren't allowed for military purposes? Of course they are - as long as they're used for legitimate purposes.

With regard to Israels use of WP, under law, they're immune from posecution because it is easy for them to escape punishment because of the way the CWC is worded AND because they're not a signatory to protocol iii CCW.

But, if they used the chemical as described at the end of the video, they're not immune.

[wotdoesitmatter]

I don't like it any more than you do and it's pretty clear to see what is going on. Yes, I want people in The Hague for this but the treaties are inadequate and are open to abuse as per Falluja.

The world is full of injustice. This is just another example of it.

[1gooddevil]

sorry for my strong words but I'm busy trying to organize demonstration to stop this genocide.

I don't accept that any one is immune to any international low.

I find not only stupid but offensive the idea that some one try to excuse this massacre.

No israel is not immune just like the US are not immune even if they refuse to be members of the Hague.

For your information several CIA and US army personal are wonted for the kidnapping of an Egyptian man in Italy.

Search (Imam Rapito affair)

[1gooddevil]

i n theory they should be also immune to prosecution by anyone else than the US military tribunal.

In practice they are not.

The shame full part is that we are probably going to wait for ears for this case , just like the Falluja and the Beirut bombing where white phosphor and depleted uranium was also used on the civilian in highly populated areas.

It is up to all single states to condemn the doing of an other country and to impose fines and sanctions.

[paulewing81]

tell that legal jargon to the person whos skins burning to the bone

[pondman27]

You can tell that those who have been appointed to determine whether it can be used legally in a military engagement have couched the legality in sufficiently ambiguous terms to enable those who deploy this toxin to do so by stating its use only. The f--king effects are the same and I care not what legalese is used, it should be illegal as should cluster bombs and depleted uranium (also being employed by this disgusting regime).

[jaggafeen]

the jews use it over gaza to kill innocent civilians not to protect aircraft or smokescreen to hide troop movement the palestinians dont have surface to air missiles to attack the aircraft therefore the white phosphorous serves no other purpose but to kill.white phosphorous or "wiley pete" nicknamed in vietnam burns to the bone and wont stop burning even if u jump into water

[ANTIJPUG]

@jaggafeen Was this used on Viaetnam by the American Military?

[soulonarrival666]

@jaggafeen

To be correct: WP DOES stop buring as you jump into water, as it stops the oxygen supply to the phospor. BUT it will re-ignate once you get out of the water and it comes back in contact with air.