The Samaritans are not Hebrews, read 2 Kings 17 The house of Israel was taken into captivity and the King of Assyria replaced them with people from various other lands he had conquered. Those people were being eaten by lions and such so the kings sent a Levit to teach them about Yahweh (the LORD). This is why they have knowledge of the Hebrew Bible but they are not Hebrews no more than the Askanasis are. This is why when Yahshua met the woman at the well she knew the Judahites had no dealings
@rclamb04 of course they are! If you ask today's Israelis they'll say that Russian immigrants aren't jewish and Russian jews say Ethiopians aren't jewish and so on. When Jewish exiles returned from Babilon (middle class babilonised sort of guys) of course there was a lot of xenophobia between them and those who staid in Israel. So they came up with this story. A lot of people today think that Ashkenazim are turks... Same nonsence
the samaritans were about wiped out first by the byzantines in the 500's who tried to convert them all, then the muslims did the same to them in the 700s. a dna test shows that the samaritans have the same markers as the other hebrews. and here is something that will get lots of thumbs down, half of nablus also have these markers. guess what, they are decendants of samaritans and jews. surpirse! by the way, there were several dialetct of hebrew, the samaritans spoke one of them.
The anciencet Samaritians writings are the same as what is known today as the TORAH. The jews take after the Samaritian stories. The Samaritians are the same as jews. The jews copy the Samaritians book. The jews copy the samaritians.
In 1:50 he starts reading "shma israel" which the jews also read except jews do it in modern hebrew... So if you know the text of "shma israel" you can realy listen and hear the similarities between the ancient hebrew and modern hebrew.
@uhhhcjxlewc The Jewish "shma israel" *sounds* modern because virtually all Jews that read it aloud use modern Hebrew pronunciation which is corrupted.
The same text in Yemenite pronunciation sounds much closer to the authentic ancient, and if you hear this you'll have gained a whole different appreciation of the difference between the Samaritan reading and the proper version.
What language does the Samaritan priest (?) spreak reading the Thora scroll?
I don't know neither Hebrew nor Arabic, but it doesn't sound to me as if it was one of the two. Is it perhaps (a variant) of Aramaic? Did they maintain Aramaic for their liturgy?
And what's the writing? Looks also similar to the old Hebrew alphabeth (and is perhaps?)
Is this the scroll who later had be stolen, or is it a newer one? I hope the old one wasn't destroyed.
In reading the scroll the priest is speaking "Samaritan," a mixture of Hebrew and Aramaic. Because they maintain that they were never sent into exile, the Samaritans say this language is closer to the language spoken in biblical times by the Jews, too. The writing is also in Samaritan characters which, they maintain, also are the ones used in ancient times by the Jews as well as by their Samaritan forefathers. The scroll is a newer one which they keep in the museum in their village.
The writing seems really to be the same as the old Hebrew one (I can only judge optically), but I doubt that the language is closer to the one spoken in biblical times by the Jews, too. After the Assyrians had deported Israelites from the northern kingdom of Israel (with Samaria as capital) in the 8th c., they "imported" other people from other conquered territories, as the Assyrians always did. If they "mixed up" with the Israelites/Samaritans is disputed I think?
But as Aramaic was already the mainly spoken language throughout Mesopotamia, I think the Samaritans took it over by the "new people" in their land, perhaps mixing it with ancient Hebrew, as they say. (Also the Jews of Judea deported to Babylon did so after they returned from exile; Jesus also spoke Aramaic). But I hardly can believe that this "mixed" language is closer to the biblical Hebrew (or perhaps only in part?). It sounds very good, btw.
There are some historians who suggest that the Samaritans were brought in to repopulate the area after the Jews were exiled. Of course, the Samaritans themselves dispute that hotly, to say the least.
This sounds very unlikely to me too, to say the least: why should they have adopted the Jewish religion, particularly when there were no more Jews in the region (which I don't believe)? But to learn more I could read "The Samaritan's Secret", but only after having read "The dark side of Bethlehem" I've already ordered yesterday. Thanks for these fascinating "insights".
@Bertrando25 he reads 'shma' yisrael' (hear o, Israel) from Deuteronomy 6:4 , in HEBREW language. Not arabic, not aramaeic and not any mixture of these. It doesn't sound hebrew to you because modern hebrew doesn't sound hebrew :)))) People who 'revived' modern hebrew (technically speaking created a creole) were native German, Polish and Russian speakers mostly. They brought their highly 'distorted' phonetics from Europe. As for this guy in the video his Hebrew does sound Hebrew as it should :)
@milkyroadtube Your last statement represents your own opinion. In reality Yemenite-accented Hebrew is much closer to what ancient Hebrew ought to sound. If you maintain the lack of gutturals as per the Samaritan dialect is the proper "sound", I've got a bridge to sell you.
For another, at least 2 of the people who revived Hebrew spoke it with oriental Semitic phonetics, but their successors largely abandoned that.
@ZviJ1 what yamani? who speaks yamani? I am talking about the standard modern Hebrew speakers who say gimel rafa instead of resh etc When I say 'those who revived' I don't mean Ben Yehuda and the like, but the masses of people who started speaking Hebrew in daily life. Their mother tongue was Jewish-German , Polish etc Of course everything I say is my opinion (who else's?) and NOT scientific. I'm just an ordinary guy who thinks: too bad, our beutiful language has become ugly, for good...
Watch the video again. It says the Samaritans are descendents of the "Good Samaritan" in Jesus's parable. It doesn't say they're descendents of Jesus.
why cant u eat cow meat? if jews can and jews also use the torah as a rules book then y cant u? lol its so strange y cant we just use OUR rules instead of yours? btw is there any way transferring from judaism to samaritanism?
I BELIEVE JESUS WAS A SAMARITAN.
CON10NDOR 2 months ago
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Remember what Jesus said to the Samaritan woman at the well:
John 4:22
Ye (the Samaritans) worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the JEWS.
zionmalka 3 months ago
The Samaritans are not Hebrews, read 2 Kings 17 The house of Israel was taken into captivity and the King of Assyria replaced them with people from various other lands he had conquered. Those people were being eaten by lions and such so the kings sent a Levit to teach them about Yahweh (the LORD). This is why they have knowledge of the Hebrew Bible but they are not Hebrews no more than the Askanasis are. This is why when Yahshua met the woman at the well she knew the Judahites had no dealings
rclamb04 1 year ago
@rclamb04 of course they are! If you ask today's Israelis they'll say that Russian immigrants aren't jewish and Russian jews say Ethiopians aren't jewish and so on. When Jewish exiles returned from Babilon (middle class babilonised sort of guys) of course there was a lot of xenophobia between them and those who staid in Israel. So they came up with this story. A lot of people today think that Ashkenazim are turks... Same nonsence
milkyroadtube 8 months ago
He was speaking Hebrew Aramaic...Assyrians speak Akkadian Aramaic...There is also Samaritans who were Assyrian
ashthebartender1 1 year ago
the samaritans were about wiped out first by the byzantines in the 500's who tried to convert them all, then the muslims did the same to them in the 700s. a dna test shows that the samaritans have the same markers as the other hebrews. and here is something that will get lots of thumbs down, half of nablus also have these markers. guess what, they are decendants of samaritans and jews. surpirse! by the way, there were several dialetct of hebrew, the samaritans spoke one of them.
nomadnametab 1 year ago
The anciencet Samaritians writings are the same as what is known today as the TORAH. The jews take after the Samaritian stories. The Samaritians are the same as jews. The jews copy the Samaritians book. The jews copy the samaritians.
SPIRITUS425 1 year ago
Interesting
Zappowx 1 year ago
In 1:50 he starts reading "shma israel" which the jews also read except jews do it in modern hebrew... So if you know the text of "shma israel" you can realy listen and hear the similarities between the ancient hebrew and modern hebrew.
uhhhcjxlewc 2 years ago
@uhhhcjxlewc The Jewish "shma israel" *sounds* modern because virtually all Jews that read it aloud use modern Hebrew pronunciation which is corrupted.
The same text in Yemenite pronunciation sounds much closer to the authentic ancient, and if you hear this you'll have gained a whole different appreciation of the difference between the Samaritan reading and the proper version.
ZviJ1 1 year ago
samaritans are the last hebrews with religion!
Malkibaal 2 years ago 4
I am a new order Jew and I think I need to retrace my roots.
Ldb29corn 2 years ago
@Malkibaal Folks like these obviously hadn't heard of the Qaraite Jews.
ZviJ1 1 year ago
What language does the Samaritan priest (?) spreak reading the Thora scroll?
I don't know neither Hebrew nor Arabic, but it doesn't sound to me as if it was one of the two. Is it perhaps (a variant) of Aramaic? Did they maintain Aramaic for their liturgy?
And what's the writing? Looks also similar to the old Hebrew alphabeth (and is perhaps?)
Is this the scroll who later had be stolen, or is it a newer one? I hope the old one wasn't destroyed.
Bertrando25 2 years ago
In reading the scroll the priest is speaking "Samaritan," a mixture of Hebrew and Aramaic. Because they maintain that they were never sent into exile, the Samaritans say this language is closer to the language spoken in biblical times by the Jews, too. The writing is also in Samaritan characters which, they maintain, also are the ones used in ancient times by the Jews as well as by their Samaritan forefathers. The scroll is a newer one which they keep in the museum in their village.
chubbyboustead 2 years ago
The writing seems really to be the same as the old Hebrew one (I can only judge optically), but I doubt that the language is closer to the one spoken in biblical times by the Jews, too. After the Assyrians had deported Israelites from the northern kingdom of Israel (with Samaria as capital) in the 8th c., they "imported" other people from other conquered territories, as the Assyrians always did. If they "mixed up" with the Israelites/Samaritans is disputed I think?
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But as Aramaic was already the mainly spoken language throughout Mesopotamia, I think the Samaritans took it over by the "new people" in their land, perhaps mixing it with ancient Hebrew, as they say. (Also the Jews of Judea deported to Babylon did so after they returned from exile; Jesus also spoke Aramaic). But I hardly can believe that this "mixed" language is closer to the biblical Hebrew (or perhaps only in part?). It sounds very good, btw.
Bertrando25 2 years ago
There are some historians who suggest that the Samaritans were brought in to repopulate the area after the Jews were exiled. Of course, the Samaritans themselves dispute that hotly, to say the least.
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Bertrando25 2 years ago
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This sounds very unlikely to me too, to say the least: why should they have adopted the Jewish religion, particularly when there were no more Jews in the region (which I don't believe)? But to learn more I could read "The Samaritan's Secret", but only after having read "The dark side of Bethlehem" I've already ordered yesterday. Thanks for these fascinating "insights".
Bertrando25 2 years ago
Bertrando25
by dna, they decended from jewish men and asyrian women.
israeli360 2 years ago
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Bertrando25 2 years ago
@Bertrando25 he reads 'shma' yisrael' (hear o, Israel) from Deuteronomy 6:4 , in HEBREW language. Not arabic, not aramaeic and not any mixture of these. It doesn't sound hebrew to you because modern hebrew doesn't sound hebrew :)))) People who 'revived' modern hebrew (technically speaking created a creole) were native German, Polish and Russian speakers mostly. They brought their highly 'distorted' phonetics from Europe. As for this guy in the video his Hebrew does sound Hebrew as it should :)
milkyroadtube 8 months ago
@milkyroadtube Your last statement represents your own opinion. In reality Yemenite-accented Hebrew is much closer to what ancient Hebrew ought to sound. If you maintain the lack of gutturals as per the Samaritan dialect is the proper "sound", I've got a bridge to sell you.
For another, at least 2 of the people who revived Hebrew spoke it with oriental Semitic phonetics, but their successors largely abandoned that.
ZviJ1 4 months ago
@ZviJ1 what yamani? who speaks yamani? I am talking about the standard modern Hebrew speakers who say gimel rafa instead of resh etc When I say 'those who revived' I don't mean Ben Yehuda and the like, but the masses of people who started speaking Hebrew in daily life. Their mother tongue was Jewish-German , Polish etc Of course everything I say is my opinion (who else's?) and NOT scientific. I'm just an ordinary guy who thinks: too bad, our beutiful language has become ugly, for good...
milkyroadtube 4 months ago
@milkyroadtube If you wish to view those masses as the revivers, so be it. But my points stand.
Happy & blessed Yom Teru`ah + Rosh Hodesh of the Seventh Month.
ZviJ1 4 months ago
@ZviJ1 Same to you brother!
milkyroadtube 4 months ago
@Bertrando25
He is reading Hebrew here. The Shomronim now send their children to school where they learn Arabic. They are bilingual at least.
72Yonatan 3 months ago
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cooldood1025 2 years ago
the samaritans werent descendants of jesus they were descendants of the ephraim and menashe tribes!
iambored2006 2 years ago
Watch the video again. It says the Samaritans are descendents of the "Good Samaritan" in Jesus's parable. It doesn't say they're descendents of Jesus.
chubbyboustead 2 years ago 3
very good....
StarMonitor 2 years ago
i know im so proud to be a samaritan but there is alot of rules fo example we cant eat cow meat or hamburger
Yakoop22 3 years ago
why cant u eat cow meat? if jews can and jews also use the torah as a rules book then y cant u? lol its so strange y cant we just use OUR rules instead of yours? btw is there any way transferring from judaism to samaritanism?
iambored2006 2 years ago
im a smaraitan i swear
Yakoop22 3 years ago
Then you're a member of an elite group. There're only 370 Samaritans living outside Nablus and a similar number in Holon on the Israeli coast.
chubbyboustead 3 years ago
I'm intrigued.
davidh52 3 years ago
Well, it's a "mystery" novel, so that's good! It's fair to say that Nablus isn't a likely vacation spot, but I hope my novel takes you there...
chubbyboustead 3 years ago
Very good trailer.
~Andrea M. Kulman~
cakulman 3 years ago
Thanks. I hope it gave you some insights into the world of the Samaritans, as they appear in my novel.
chubbyboustead 3 years ago