6 championships >Kobe (5), 2 gold medals > Kobe(1), 14 all star apps.>Kobe (12), 5 League MVP's >Kobe (1), 6 NBA Finals MVP >Kobe(2), 10.. yes TEN scoring titles... 7 in a ROW >Kobe..(2)..
oh, and MJ never lost in the finals.....kobe? twice...
in 5/6 NBA finals appearances, Michael Jordan AVERAGED 30 PPG...
(1993=41.0 ppg)
Michael Jordan had 109, 30-point playoff games... >kobe... 75....
too often, so Kobe would have to work harder for his points. I just think if he struggled so much with Boston's mainly man defence in the Finals, he would reaaly have a hard time against the Bad Boys. There's no doubt he's a special talent, but I think he's nowhere near the GOAT. Kobe is probably the best player right now, but as Rodman said, "Kobe compared to Michael? It's not even close. There's no comparison. Jordan is singular."
toughness and psychological game would get KB mad and force him into poor shot selection. I would give anything to somehow take Kobe back to '89-90 and put him up against Rodman. Or Joe Dumars. His average statline would read 14 pts, 5-18 fg. 1-5 threes. 6 TO.
I am sure that Dumars and Rodman would beg to differ. Kobe has a very advanced ball skill set and has so for years. Kobe is a special talent. If he was not he would not have been drafted out of high school by a Hall of Famer player and GM. Things would be tougher but I am sorry you are underestimating his talent. As Jerry West stated on Beyond the Glory, this kid is never going to be a role player, he was going to be a superstar. Phil Jackson as well in the book The Last Season.
How many players in any era that were threats to score in every stage offensively? Bryant scores in all from multiple ranges. Outside of Jordan who was a better individual player than who Rodman and Dumars guarded? Magic never had the range nor arsenal of moves and shots that Bryant has. Nor Barkley or Drexler.
Yap, but Barkley has strong body able to knock Shaq down to the floor. Barkley also has speed and mid-range, makes him an effective offense player, he has even higher FG than MJ.
Magic can organize the team offense, he is tall, good offense, and incredible skills and personality to push teammates up.
Drexler, ok, he is weaker than above two.
Kobe, yap, he can shoot anywhere, incrediable jump shots and great to drive.
But Kobe always weaken against tough defense, number can tell.
Kobe has a height advantage on Dumars. Size. Post skills. Dribble movees. Sorry Dumars would nto shut him down. Rodman could be a problem due to him focusing solely on playing defense.
If Dumars wouldn't have shut him down, he would have limited him. He was knwn for his lower body strength and intelligence on the defensive end; he would've coped with Kobe's post game, which isn't as efficcient as MJ's was. If Dumars could sometimes stay with Jordan on his drives, he would have no problem with Bryant, who has never had the explosive footspeed Jordan had. KB now has trouble shaking defenders, so he often settles for long jumpers. I don't think Dumars would bite on his fakes
Jordan had all of that on Dumars too but Dumars is an intelligent defender...i think he would shut down Kobe because Kobe complains about foul calls too much and that would frustrate Kobe..Dumars and Rodman were extremely tough defenders and that would frustrate Kobe cause he's not used to it especially in this no "hand check" era where you can't get physical...Kobe couldn't hang w/ the Bad Boys especially if he could hang w/ the 04 Pistons during the Finals
And this was with the real man's 3-point line, same as with the first finals game against Portland when Jodan was raining threes. Not like todays 3-point line.
All of these so called elite twos guards and forwards in the league today would get tripped up by defenses like this. Just think after Jordan mastered the pistons.... he had to mop the floor with the knick defense....that in my opinion had an even more rugged defense than the pistons, all this he did while getting up there in age as well
He just cuts teams to pieces with his dribbling skills. The pistons are one of the baddest defensive teams of all time.... and Jordan is just anticipating every defensive scheme they throw at him....and he's countering it with supreme offensive skills and knows how.
Man I know I keep repeating myself but...these corny motherfuckers today on the perimeter.....compared with Jordan? Please? Put those cocksuckers right back in your back pocket. They cannot fuck around with Jordans interior game.
No players attacks the basket today like Jordan did back in the day. Body leverage, body control, footwork, and aggressiveness is picture perfect. Kobe, Lebron, no one today can touch that even with the 3 second lane rule.
they dont allow players to play like this anymore because of fear of star players getting injuried or having career ending injuries. The leauge wants to protect its product and thats how they look at it. Lucky jordan didnt suffer a career ending injury.
And that is exactly why you don't put a player taller than MJ on him.
And Rodman is one of, if not THE best defender of all time. He's an extraordinary athlete, with great fundamentals. We always saw MJ size up his defender and take it to the hoop if he was 6'6 or taller.
Rodman was varsatile defender. He could guard any positon even centers. He guarded shaq in the 96 series. In guarded bird,magic,pippen and jordan. He had great foot speed which allowed him to stay with players and keep his body in front of them. Was a superb defender and the greatest rebounder
Prime time Rodman will easily hold prime Kobe to less then 15ppg in playoffs easily. Rodmans reflexes were so quick. He was super athelete. He could cover large distances with long strides & his lateral movement was mindblowing. A scorer can pass Dennis but he always made up the lost ground in time b4 scorer could set & score. Rodman rightly won BACK-to-BACK NBA Def plyr of the yr. What pisses me off is that how NBA robbed MJ of BACK-to-BACK def plyr title.
I 100% agree with you man. Rodman remains an underrated defender in most peoples eyes despite his awards. He would completely contain Kobe. He was one of the few guys that could guard someone right up in their face and not get beaten off the dribble. Bryant hasn't got the footspeed, athleticism or creativity to beat Rodman. He would likely get frustrated and just bull his way into Dennis forcefully, picking up a charge. Rodman would shut down his drive and take away his jumper. Plus, with his
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6 championships >Kobe (5), 2 gold medals > Kobe(1), 14 all star apps.>Kobe (12), 5 League MVP's >Kobe (1), 6 NBA Finals MVP >Kobe(2), 10.. yes TEN scoring titles... 7 in a ROW >Kobe..(2)..
oh, and MJ never lost in the finals.....kobe? twice...
in 5/6 NBA finals appearances, Michael Jordan AVERAGED 30 PPG...
(1993=41.0 ppg)
Michael Jordan had 109, 30-point playoff games... >kobe... 75....
recap?
MIchael Jordan>Kobe Bryant
waders317 1 year ago
kobe would be crying for shaq's help against the original bad boys
juice4080 1 year ago
too often, so Kobe would have to work harder for his points. I just think if he struggled so much with Boston's mainly man defence in the Finals, he would reaaly have a hard time against the Bad Boys. There's no doubt he's a special talent, but I think he's nowhere near the GOAT. Kobe is probably the best player right now, but as Rodman said, "Kobe compared to Michael? It's not even close. There's no comparison. Jordan is singular."
jumpnam 2 years ago 8
@jumpnam - correct he saw mostly man defense against the celtics. No comparison.
loepower 1 year ago
toughness and psychological game would get KB mad and force him into poor shot selection. I would give anything to somehow take Kobe back to '89-90 and put him up against Rodman. Or Joe Dumars. His average statline would read 14 pts, 5-18 fg. 1-5 threes. 6 TO.
jumpnam 2 years ago
I am sure that Dumars and Rodman would beg to differ. Kobe has a very advanced ball skill set and has so for years. Kobe is a special talent. If he was not he would not have been drafted out of high school by a Hall of Famer player and GM. Things would be tougher but I am sorry you are underestimating his talent. As Jerry West stated on Beyond the Glory, this kid is never going to be a role player, he was going to be a superstar. Phil Jackson as well in the book The Last Season.
chitownmo 2 years ago
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bronbronface 2 years ago
How many players in any era that were threats to score in every stage offensively? Bryant scores in all from multiple ranges. Outside of Jordan who was a better individual player than who Rodman and Dumars guarded? Magic never had the range nor arsenal of moves and shots that Bryant has. Nor Barkley or Drexler.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Yap, but Barkley has strong body able to knock Shaq down to the floor. Barkley also has speed and mid-range, makes him an effective offense player, he has even higher FG than MJ.
Magic can organize the team offense, he is tall, good offense, and incredible skills and personality to push teammates up.
Drexler, ok, he is weaker than above two.
Kobe, yap, he can shoot anywhere, incrediable jump shots and great to drive.
But Kobe always weaken against tough defense, number can tell.
jimmychuang 2 years ago
he should be in the HOF,if you agree
Soundtrack1000 2 years ago
Who should be in the HOF? Kobe yeah. He is a hall of famer but is not on Jordan's level. Rodman and Dumbars should be in the HOF also.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Kobe has a height advantage on Dumars. Size. Post skills. Dribble movees. Sorry Dumars would nto shut him down. Rodman could be a problem due to him focusing solely on playing defense.
chitownmo 2 years ago
If Dumars wouldn't have shut him down, he would have limited him. He was knwn for his lower body strength and intelligence on the defensive end; he would've coped with Kobe's post game, which isn't as efficcient as MJ's was. If Dumars could sometimes stay with Jordan on his drives, he would have no problem with Bryant, who has never had the explosive footspeed Jordan had. KB now has trouble shaking defenders, so he often settles for long jumpers. I don't think Dumars would bite on his fakes
jumpnam 2 years ago
but jordan is better
Soundtrack1000 2 years ago
Jordan had all of that on Dumars too but Dumars is an intelligent defender...i think he would shut down Kobe because Kobe complains about foul calls too much and that would frustrate Kobe..Dumars and Rodman were extremely tough defenders and that would frustrate Kobe cause he's not used to it especially in this no "hand check" era where you can't get physical...Kobe couldn't hang w/ the Bad Boys especially if he could hang w/ the 04 Pistons during the Finals
bronbronface 2 years ago
And this was with the real man's 3-point line, same as with the first finals game against Portland when Jodan was raining threes. Not like todays 3-point line.
nebnubs 2 years ago
All of these so called elite twos guards and forwards in the league today would get tripped up by defenses like this. Just think after Jordan mastered the pistons.... he had to mop the floor with the knick defense....that in my opinion had an even more rugged defense than the pistons, all this he did while getting up there in age as well
waffleirontmacsplat 2 years ago
He just cuts teams to pieces with his dribbling skills. The pistons are one of the baddest defensive teams of all time.... and Jordan is just anticipating every defensive scheme they throw at him....and he's countering it with supreme offensive skills and knows how.
waffleirontmacsplat 2 years ago 3
Man I know I keep repeating myself but...these corny motherfuckers today on the perimeter.....compared with Jordan? Please? Put those cocksuckers right back in your back pocket. They cannot fuck around with Jordans interior game.
waffleirontmacsplat 2 years ago
great video!
PETROforeverCRO 2 years ago
i think thats the most he's scored against the Pistons in the playoffs since they came up with "The Jordan Rules". great game MJ
AgentCirrus 2 years ago
No players attacks the basket today like Jordan did back in the day. Body leverage, body control, footwork, and aggressiveness is picture perfect. Kobe, Lebron, no one today can touch that even with the 3 second lane rule.
chitownmo 2 years ago
they dont allow players to play like this anymore because of fear of star players getting injuried or having career ending injuries. The leauge wants to protect its product and thats how they look at it. Lucky jordan didnt suffer a career ending injury.
dv122 2 years ago 3
And that is exactly why you don't put a player taller than MJ on him.
And Rodman is one of, if not THE best defender of all time. He's an extraordinary athlete, with great fundamentals. We always saw MJ size up his defender and take it to the hoop if he was 6'6 or taller.
andgar923 2 years ago
Rodman was varsatile defender. He could guard any positon even centers. He guarded shaq in the 96 series. In guarded bird,magic,pippen and jordan. He had great foot speed which allowed him to stay with players and keep his body in front of them. Was a superb defender and the greatest rebounder
dv122 2 years ago 2
Prime time Rodman will easily hold prime Kobe to less then 15ppg in playoffs easily. Rodmans reflexes were so quick. He was super athelete. He could cover large distances with long strides & his lateral movement was mindblowing. A scorer can pass Dennis but he always made up the lost ground in time b4 scorer could set & score. Rodman rightly won BACK-to-BACK NBA Def plyr of the yr. What pisses me off is that how NBA robbed MJ of BACK-to-BACK def plyr title.
mnkhan2020 2 years ago
I 100% agree with you man. Rodman remains an underrated defender in most peoples eyes despite his awards. He would completely contain Kobe. He was one of the few guys that could guard someone right up in their face and not get beaten off the dribble. Bryant hasn't got the footspeed, athleticism or creativity to beat Rodman. He would likely get frustrated and just bull his way into Dennis forcefully, picking up a charge. Rodman would shut down his drive and take away his jumper. Plus, with his
jumpnam 2 years ago
2:36 Are you kidding me?
cooljjjj 2 years ago