The Beatles - All Things Must Pass (Full Band Demo - 1969)

[TheJohnmusk]

As far as Ringo goes, I used to be in the camp with Numb Wolf thinking Ringo didn't matter all that much. However I have done an about face on Ringo...the sound and chemistry of the group would never have been the same with somebody else. The Pete/Ringo switch was done for a reason.

[thegrinchl7]

I gotta agree: George relies way too much on fluffy imagery.

He was never a master of lyrics like John Lennon. Nor did he

have the touch of catchy jingles like Paul. Frankly, I think George's

fame is built solidly on the backs of John and Paul.

[FrlghtWolf]

Poor George. He never quite got beyond cliches.

"Sunrise doesn't last all evening" produces a groan

when I hear it. I'm sure he thought it very clever.

Probably considered it naming the stupid song with

it. At the core of George's problems is that he was

not a master of words or melody. That's why we had

John Lennon and Paul McCartney. Who, if his fans

were honest, were the people most responsible for

George's "Something" and "Gently Weeps".

[LoquaciousInkSlinger]

@FrlghtWolf Hey, your opinion is your opinion, bud-- but don't go saying your opinion is right or wrong. The point is an opinion isn't true or false-- a fact is true or false. What I don't understand is why you waste so much time trolling about. Now that's something I don't get. Peace and love.

[jksmadone]

@FrlghtWolf , unlike you? your opinion is yours, as mine is mine - my opinion of your opinion is that it is in bad taste. banal & foolish.

[TheJohnmusk]

@FrlghtWolf

--Poor George. He never quite got beyond cliches.

"Sunrise doesn't last all evening" produces a groan

when I hear it--

Ummm..it's "sunrise doesn't last all morning". Also that's not a cliche. 0/2 nice going.

[supermd4589]

My favorite part of this is Ringo's drumming. He really is distinctive, isn't he?

[FrlghtWolf]

@supermd4589 - John Lennon, upon being asked if Ringo

wasn't "the best drummer in the world": "In the world? Hell,

he's not even the best drummer in the band"! Ringo is ok,

if you like KER-PLUNK, KER-PLUNK, KER-PLUNK drumming.

Like shoes in the dryer!

[supermd4589]

@FrlghtWolf That's taken out of context. Here's the proper context:

US Press conference 1964: "Are you the best group in the world?"

All 4: "No, no."

Press conference: "Is Ringo the best drummer in the world?"

Ringo: "No!"

John: "He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles!"

(Laughter all round)

It was just a joke. There's a reason why John chose Ringo to be the drummer for his first solo album, "John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band" (1970).

[FrlghtWolf]

@supermd4589 - Well, I often believe there's truth in

all jokes...otherwise it wouldn't be funny. Ringo...and

especially George Harrison were not all that important

to the Beatles. Not like John and Paul. While don't think

either HURT the Beatles, neither were they the driving

force behind their success. When you take into account

that George's music often required a lot of help (Something,

Gently Weeps received A LOT of help)...George's contributions

are dubious.

[supermd4589]

@FrlghtWolf The reason it's funny is because Ringo is the ONLY drummer in the group, not because he's not a great drummer (and yes, I know about Paul drumming on a few of their tracks). Here's another thing John said about Ringo in 1980:

"...Ringo is a damn good drummer." (full quote won't fit). Paul has said many times (and in his book "Many Years From Now") that Ringo is one of his all-time favorite drummers, along with Moon and Bonham. ALL the Beatles loved Ringo's playing.

[supermd4589]

@FrlghtWolf I'm not even going to touch your ignorant comments about George's lack of importance to the Beatles. You are just a troll, plain and simple. Stop wasting my and others' time. Do some research.

P.S. Take a look at George's "All Things Must Pass" album. Yeah, he sure needed help with songs, didn't he? *rolls eyes*

[FrlghtWolf]

@supermd4589 - You do realize that "All Things" was

just a bucket, a receptacle for all of George's music

that the Beatles had REJECTED over the years? I

remember everyone going through Beatle withdrawal

symptoms when George's READY-TO-GO, OFF-THE-

SHELF album came out. Of course it was an immediate

success. But was it that good? You take 30 songs and

dump them into an album you're bound to have 2 or 3

good ones. George's biggest "hit" turned out to be some-

one ELSE'S "hit".

[jksmadone]

@FrlghtWolf you are a real douche. peace & love mate. :)

[LoquaciousInkSlinger]

@FrlghtWolf Oh, you were there when they were all collaborating then, right?

[jakestardust2]

@LoquaciousInkSlinger LOL yesss WIN

[LoquaciousInkSlinger]

@jakestardust2 Thank you. Thank you very much. lol! :)

[hirskdubbi]

the beatles version of georges "all things" is mundane compared to what george put on record

[MrBeatlepaul]

El coro del minuto 2:42, creo que es "el" momento de la canción en donde el trio daba magia.

[gazuaman]

@MrBeatlepaul Yes, we got a point. True magic...

[RedTalk72]

@FrightWolf You made some points that were valid, however, you don't put them into context. Yes George lived on an estate. But he was also paranoid that someone would do him in like John. Not that he indulged in being rich! George was never a womanizer as you implied on one of your posts, and there's a good many comments you made that stretch reality. Your threats about killing Jakestardust2 and having previously killed someone suggest a need for therapy, or that you really are psychotic.

[FrlghtWolf]

@RedTalk72 - Why would George Harrison be "paranoid"

about DEATH? It seems, if you watch enough of his videos

that all he does is profess that he loves his "sweet lord",

that all THIS is meaningless and that "death" is really nothing

more than a door to a "better place". Why would someone

who has such a profound "spiritual" life be so terrified

of DEATH? Unless of course, it was all a masquerade. A lie.

that he's prepared

[gietek]

@FrlghtWolf My list of daily chores:

1. wake up

2. take a shower

4. have breakfast

5. turn on computer

6. find Frightwolf and his funny comments and write something nice about 'him'

Ok, I've done the first five points. Now it's time for the last one. Ready? Ok, my pleasure:

FrightWolf, ArgentinaExpel4Fraud, TwoUselessLegs, thegrinch7, CubanCheGuevara, UploadedGiovlin, MrAnusmystere - ONE 'person', multiple accounts. Master troll, obsessive hater, little pathetic twerp.

Good day.

[drzellman]

@RedTalk72 actually, it was known that Harrison was something of a womanizer. He even had an affair with Ringo Starr's first wife shortly after the Pattie Boyd Split.

[CharlieTWilbury]

Please ignore FrightWolf, she knows very, very little about the subject matter so she attempts to cover those inadequacies with aggressiveness and hyperbole. She - more than anyone - knows that Lennon was the biggest hypocrite in the Beatles, hands down. Mr. GIve Peace a Chance was a violent drunk, a junkie, an absentee father, a cocaine abuser right up untli the night of his murder and a wife beater.

[FrlghtWolf]

Ugh! George's work is so awkward. So clunky. Listening

to this I'm reminded of shoes in a dryer: ker-plunk, ker-plunk.

His voice was never meant for solo work either...but nobody

could stop him. Even though they tried to drop hints.

[K2SKIER12311]

@FrlghtWolf That's strange, considering his songs are some of the most cherished and acclaimed in all of the Beatles musical catalogue. Have you even listened to his album All Things Must Pass?! It's probably the least clunky piece of music to come from anyone in the Beatles(aside from some of John's solo stuff).

[FrlghtWolf]

@K2SKIER12311 - Oh stop it! You and this Harrison SPIN is

getting really silly. How many songs did George write that were

equal to anything John and Paul wrote? What are we talking

about here? Three songs? Of the three, two are said to have

received more than a little "help" from Paul. All Things Must Pass

came at a time when the world was hungry for ANYTHING Beatles.

It was a bucket for all of the songs the Beatles rejected. It's biggest

"hit" turned out to be plagiarized!

[TheJohnmusk]

@FrlghtWolf

It's funny how you try to discredit George when you apparently don't know any Beatles history. First of all "Something", and "Here comes the sun" were bigger songs than "my sweet lord". It's comical how you attempt to give Paul credit for George's songwriting, did you know that George wrote "here comes the sun" in 1/2 hour in Eric Clapton's garden? No you don't, because your knowledge of Beatles history is weak or non-existent. Did you even watch Anthology????

[FrlghtWolf]

@TheJohnmusk- I never said My Sweet Lord was a

bigger hit than the others. I said All Thing's Must Pass's

biggest hit "turned out to be plagiarized". And what are

we to make of these heroin injecting, pot smoking, wife-

swapping failed-males? That they REMEMBER everything

they did in the 1960s? These men and the people around

them were always spinning their own myth. Eric claimed he

wrote Tears In Heaven in profound grief. Not true. Turns out

he wrote that song years earlier.

[TheJohnmusk]

@FrlghtWolf

Once again, if you watch Anthology you will understand because they talk about here comes the sun. I don't think you want the truth at all to he honest you're way too jaded to accept it. Almost all of George's songs were created by him alone...if you look around on you tube you can find him rehearsing many of his songs for the Beatles. With "I me mine" he did a demo of the entire song on his acoustic...you could not be more wrong.

[FrlghtWolf]

@TheJohnmusk - My god, why use the rinky-dink "I Me Mine" to make a defense for George? For a period of time, George somehow got locked into this 3-word title which only lent to the RINKY-DINK quality of his music: Give Me Love, My Sweet Lord, What Is Life, Long Long Long, I Me Mine, Don't Bother Me, I Need You, Love You Too, Blue Jay Way, I Dig Love, etc. If he had not been a Beatle, do you really think "I Me MIne" would ever have been recorded, never mind released?

[TheJohnmusk]

@FrlghtWolf

I me mine was released on SIDE A of "Let it be". I'm sure if the Beatles and George Martin did not think it was a hit song (it was) it would not have been slotted there. Nothing rinky-dink about it.

I think your hatred of Harrison and idolization of Lennon has altered your perception of reality. The youtube version of I me mine has 1020 likes, 9 dislikes.

[FrlghtWolf]

@TheJohnmusk- I watched Anthology. I watch and read

all things Beatles. I'm not a big fan of this movie for a lot

of reasons. Except for Yoko & George's greed, this

should not have been made. Taking Lennon's cassettes

and trying to squeeze out a "hit" was tragic. Geore was

behind this money grab. Mind you, I think Ringo was largely

replaceable too but Ringo KNOWS his place. George stood

so close to the gods for so long, that after awhile, he started

confuse himself for one!

[TheJohnmusk]

@FrlghtWolf

Well for somebody who supposedly knows so much about the Beatles your assertion that George was greedy is absurd. It's well known George explored spirituality throughout his entire life...that doesn't quite jive with your accusations of greed. Further, did you know that Paul approached him after his Wilburys success to write songs together? What did greedy ole George tell him? He told him NO! Who payed for Mal Evans funeral? George. You are full of hot air.

[FrlghtWolf]

@TheJohnmusk - Doesn't "jive" with my assertions?

That George is a hypocrite is in fact my entire point.

He postures himself as one thing...then, will contradict

himself is precisely what bothers me. Even the title of

his new (only) documentary; Living In A Material World

is a tacit acknowledgement that George didn't LIVE

what he PREACHED. He hated materialsim but lived

in luxury. Preached health but smoked. Hated fame

but did interviews. Never mind his awkward music!

[TheJohnmusk]

@FrlghtWolf

Sillyness. He bought Friar Park because they were going to demolish it, you should know this. If you had some real good sticking points I would address them but you don't. I will tell you however why I admire George. It's because he had to coexist under the boot heels of the two greatest pop performers (and greatest egos) ever. Boxed out of the creative process by John/Paul, treated like garbage by George Martin, he not only survived but flourished.

[FrlghtWolf]

@TheJohnmusk - What on earth is a "sticking" point?

Are you trying to say "talking points"? I have stated here

that my disrespect for Harrison STARTS and STOPS with

his hypocrisy. Pick something...then try to defend your

position. However, keep in mind that you can't defend your

position by being emotional. "Boxed out" of the creative

process is subjective spin from his supporters. Lennon

and Martin said George's early work was "not very good".

And they were being POLITE.

[TheJohnmusk]

@FrlghtWolf

Defend my position? You have not backed up a single claim against George. You say he wanted to make Anthology to get more money...any proof? Do you have a quote, a reference, a remote factoid? You have nothing. In case you want to know, it was Paul that asked Yoko if she had any Lennon tapes, not George. If you had really watched Anthology you would know this too. That is no emotional rambling (like you do). That is fact. I don't believe you even watched it.

[FrlghtWolf]

@TheJohnmusk - I'm beginning to see the problem here:

you think Anthology is gospel. In a sense...Anthology is a

kind of autobiography. It was done by the remaining Beatles

themselves. In the world of literature the autobiography is a

deeply resented document. It makes money but it's really the

last place you want to go for the truth. We are all inclined to

omit or embellish the truth about ourselves. George was in debt. Look it up yourself. I won't do your homework for you.

[TheJohnmusk]

@FrlghtWolf

To say "George was in debt" is complete speculation. George's financials are not available to the public so you are only dredging up unproven rumors. It's safe to say he lost a lot on handmade films. It's also safe to say he was rolling in money from his Wilburys success and his Japan concert with Clapton. According to statements from Olivia, the Beatles donated a "large amount of money" from Anthology royalties to romanian orphans. I won't mention Bangladesh.

[FrlghtWolf]

@TheJohnmusk - You seem like a thoughtful man although you seem passionate at the expense of measured reason. I love the Beatles, however the mechanics of what made them great are often cold and indifferent facts. John could be cruel and abusive. Paul's music was rather mundane when not pushing off John. Ringo, except that he was a good friend, was largely irrelevant. And George struggled with music, money and women the whole of his life. I might have more respect for him...had he been honest.

[jakestardust2]

@FrlghtWolf why the hell do you bash george so much on mulitple peoples channels, yet you have your profile picture as him???? shut the hell up already

[FrlghtWolf]

@jakestardust2 - Dweeb, let's understand each other:

I stole this channel and screen name from a Harrison

fan who thought he was smart enough to mess with

me. Not only did I track him down to his physical address,

I cut him from groin to sternum with a dull dear antler.

Then I took over his life and online persona. Take care

I don't do the same to you. You and your faggy hair.

[mickeyadams527]

@FrlghtWolf u cut him form groin to sternum, thats as good as a draw and quartering almost, dude took it all from him a, and thencall jake with his faggy hair, hahahahahah, too funny

[TheJohnmusk]

@FrlghtWolf

--"Boxed out" of the creative process is subjective spin from his supporters. Lennon and Martin said George's early work was "not very good". And they were being POLITE.

Subjective spin my arse. It's straight from Anthology, where Paul stated that he and John made a decision early on...that George would not be part of the song-writing team. That is what's called being boxed out you pathetic troll.

[rodneyracoon]

@TheJohnmusk George had no interest in writing songs when the Beatles started. The others along with Martin actually encouraged him to write and his response was the woeful "Don't Bother Me" which they still put on the record. Fortunately he got much better. John helped with the lyrics on Taxman and Paul contibuted the guitar solo. It is true that Paul and John thought of him as junior member and didn't take his songs as seriously, with a few exceptions. That left George some good solo material

[rodneyracoon]

@rodneyracoon For the record I think Something and Here Comes the Sun are as good as anything John and Paul ever wrore. If I needed Someone is a favorite of mine too. This song could have been a great beatles song too if they had finished it. This demo, while interesting, is still pretty rough.

PS I hate youtube's character limit!!

[jakebarnes230]

@rodneyracoon Yeah I hate the limit too, then I could listen to you ramble on even longer.

[TheJohnmusk]

@FrlghtWolf

And last but not least. The burden of proof always lies with the accuser. You accuse George being a greedy, untalented hypcocrite. Talent is subjective, but you offer ZERO...and I mean ZERO proof of your other claims. Your disgusting hatred is not proof. Any true Beatles fan does not look at them like you do. They are thankful for what they brought to the world. You're just a trolling hater with no information to back up your claims.

[FrlghtWolf]

@TheJohnmusk - Did you know Anthology...the

ebarrassing Beatle garage sale was pushed by the

financially troubled George Harrison? All of his ventures

had failed, including his movie studio. He was also behind

the idea that the Beatles should make "new hits" using

John's old cassette demo-tapes. Scraping the bottom

of the Beatle barrel was George's idea! An otherwise

spotless Beatle reputations sold for scrap because the

least talented member of the group was in trouble!

[TheJohnmusk]

@FrlghtWolf

Please stop trying to peddle rumors as fact. If you have any proof at all of your accusations post a link.

And you still did not answer my question about whether or not you watched Anthology. If you want to know why George did not write many songs in the early years...the answer is in there.

So you think that because the pace of because a verse in "my sweet lord" sounds similar to a verse in "he's so fine" that means George borrowed all his work from others? Really?

[jtdriver1]

I love watching a song grow into a finished product. that's why i record all of my rehearsals. so we can hear it take shape. it's fun to hear the mistakes and the parts left out and others that are kept as yopu learn the song

[Cassettomusic]

I love you, Ringo.

[dragonhope]

What is this recording from? one of the anthologies? I never got those.

[Myro45]

they are beatlicified harrison's song and i'm very pleased with results!

[vgr112261]

This could have been a great Beatles track, but it's obvious Lennon and McCartney just weren't into Harrison's material then. Sad, because it was equal to, if not better than anything they were turning out at the time.

[dragonhope]

@vgr112261 I disagree that they weren't into it. The songs took time to form, this is an early demo... compare the early I Me Mine with the final version. His songs shined once they explored them for a while it seems to me.

[dragonhope]

@vgr112261 And love the bass lines here. Paul's melodic sense really lights up this song.

[terrytomlin1]

Thank heaven George recorded this on his own!

[cathytreks]

@terrytomlin1 naw this raw take holds up better today ...compare 'em!

[briney1973]

is it just me or do the get back sessions sound lacklustre. like they didn't really care anymore. but then again the majority of the get back sessions were just rehearsals and not meant to be finished product.

[guitarslim56]

@briney1973 , It's just you.

[Mikemantis819]

This was actually in 69

[FriendlyShadow1]

"Sunrise doesn't last all evening." Hehe.

[nafaidni]

Tbh, I prefer George's solo vocals. John and Paul don't really add to the effect of the song except at the "All Things Must Pass Away" part.

[ZumMeme]

Hermoso de lo que se perdieron caray

[benglassman]

If only John and Paul would have stepped back a bit and let George take over a bit at this point... I think the Beatles could have continued.... George had a ton of great material.... and the Beatles were the best way for him to articulate it.

Alas..........

[ablack1000]

hard to believe it's the same song as Harrison's solo, huh?

[redletter2008]

I so wish that the group had been able to give this superb song the time & rehersal it needed & deserved for eventual inclusion on the Get Back LP project. It is such an outstanding song - one of George's best - and would have helped bolster that record. In fact, I have always felt George should have had 3 songs on LIB (For You Blue, I Me Mine AND ATMP). He had 3 songs on Revolver, and all were inferior to ATMP. If John was slipping in early '69, George should have been allowed to offer more.

[ablack1000]

SUNRISE doesn't last all EVENING?

[stephenrockall]

@ablack1000 its a fuckin metaform? jeez

[jayfey77]

you really should read beatle history books.because the beatles never worked on get back or let it be album during 1968.they started in jan and it last till the end of the month.this song was recorded in 69.

[jakestardust2]

@jayfey77 @Mikemantis819 i will fix the date.. idk why i put 68.. thanks guys

[Detroit1967]

@jayfey77 ... right on

[LeThereBeatles4ever]

I, for some reason, like this WAY better than the released solo version of George... I just like how this has less production and you can hear George's raw voice, but that's just me...

[jakestardust2]

@LeThereBeatles4ever

out of the many many unfinished demos the beatles did of this song, this version is by far my fav