MetroPraise, neither you nor john edwards have one clue who God is, or what He is really all about. There are many supposed "men of God" throughout history who litterally had nothing whatsoever to do with God. You want the real Gospel? Read Jesus, Read about the new Covenant in Jeremiah, Read Paul. even read James. You will not find an "Angry" god anywhere in there. Wrath in the new testament in the word Orge wich simply means strong passionate desire.
You know how people carry the team on their shoulda and they make that joke "my back hurts from carrying the team".... Jesus' back must be broken from carrying the world
@TheLatinGuitarist Yes I love the emphasis by Matt C. on God's free gift of grace & God's ferocious love for all. Guys like Matt C help us to talk to God intimately as our Father, as we come to Him in all of our desperate fallen far short need. Being needy and admitting we are a sinner & that we are "far gone" before God--this is a good thing...because only then can God save us, heal us & help us to see that God totally accepts us undeservedly and unconditionally. All gift.
Just one more quote from Edwards... I believe this is the best one, "Yea, God is a great deal more angry with great numbers that are now on earth: yea, doubtless, with many that are now in this congregation, who it may be are at ease, than he is with many of those who are now in the flames of hell." Ahhhhhh... love hearing the real Gospel win souls to Christ!
He is colliding with the real Gospel. The Gospel calls SIN-SIN, tells young people to HATE EVIL-CLING TO GOOD. Brings both GRACE and TRUTH. Too bad Matt missed the preachers point and thus sided with sin to make his. I wonder what he would have thought if the preacher's message was, "Sinners in the Hands of An Angry God?" Side note, I sense he and Piper are getting "Gospel-Light."
@MetroPraise Quote from Johnathon Edwards, "They deserve to be cast into hell; so that divine justice never stands in the way, it makes no objection against God's using his power at any moment to destroy them. Yea, on the contrary, justice calls aloud for an infinite punishment of their sins. Divine justice says of the tree that brings forth such grapes of Sodom, "Cut it down, why cumbereth it the ground?"
@MetroPraise They are already under a sentence of condemnation to hell. They do not only justly deserve to be cast down thither, but the sentence of the law of God, that eternal and immutable rule of righteousness that God has fixed between him and mankind, is gone out against them, and stands against them; so that they are bound over already to hell. John 3:18. "He that believeth not is condemned already."
@MetroPraise Another Quote from Edwards, "They are now the objects of that very same anger and wrath of God, that is expressed in the torments of hell. And the reason why they do not go down to hell at each moment, is not because God, in whose power they are, is not then very angry with them; as he is with many miserable creatures now tormented in hell, who there feel and bear the fierceness of his wrath."
@MetroPraise you missed the point of what Matt Chandler is saying. The preacher was saying that no one would want something tattered and broken like that, but that Jesus did want the rose, because we don't have to be clean and perfect to be saved, in fact the whole purpose of Him coming to earth was because we can't save ourselves. If you've listened to either of their sermons, you would know that they aren't "gospel light" like you proclaim they are getting
I love the fact that as a new Christian, I walked into the Village Church and knew I was home. I am so thankful for Chandler, for his servants heart, for this message, and the many many times I have shared it with others. Soon, I will write about my very first day at the Village Church on my blog.
Jesus does indeed want the rose, AMEN. He died for all the broken roses. BUT... the pastor wasn't giving a gospel message. He was giving a sexual purity message, and... we are not Jesus! So wanting the rose instead of someone who is sexually pure, is hard! I know, I just got married at age 35, as a virgin, to someone who had 17 different sexual partners, for an uncountable amount of times. Thank you God for the grace to overcome!
@kwabenabruni Every message--including, no, ESPECIALLY one on sexual purity--needs to be a gospel message. The gospel isn't just what we need to hear to get us in the door; it's what we need every single day of our lives.
For all the time I've spent far, far away from anything Christian... this was an incredibly compelling and powerful demonstration of one person's passion for forgiveness. I still don't agree with the doctrine and I think we'd all be better of finding our own forgiveness to that degree, but dude-man is still majestic in his emotion.
@jeongwon1 he was basically saying that Jesus wants those who are considered to be "undesirable". have you watched the full message? it might help to clear up some things since this is just a clip
@SiIverxLight Thank you haha. I'm glad you specified that CHRIST loves me. The reason I say that is if you had said "God" loves me, I'd of been a smart ass and said "which god? Ra, the real original god of the sun?"... since all religions are basically ripped off of that one
so do yall actually believe that if you were born in say, India, you would be christians? or will you admit that there is quite the localization of religion? so basically, because you were born in a certain region, you are saved? lLMAO
plus hes so condescending to anyone who doesn't believe in a god that has been ripped off from many other "gods" such as Ra, of ancient sumeria.. do some freakin research. christianity is one big lie
I think he meant, who would like to have that rose as in, who would like to have that done to you. To have that be your state, your emotional state. If not, I agree. He's an idiote.
@jmkeeter517 I think it's the other way round. The minister missed the point entirely. He had a HUGE witnessing opportunity to throngs of young people and, rather than preaching the love of Christ, he decided to make people with promiscuous pasts (like Matt's friend) feel bad about themselves. I don't think you quite understand the video. No disrespect, of course.
@jmkeeter517 but listen...he was never judging the minister. He just didn't agree with his message. And he's right. The preacher failed to make the point the Jesus always always always wants the rose, which is crucial to a message on this subject.
Former medium, with a new age view of GOD. I loved JESUS from childhood, but had not read The Bible and distrusted Christians, as they judged everything I considered 'holy' as evil. One day I accicentally ministered to a demon 'knight'. GOD allowed me to experience the sheer terror of being directly exposed to the demonic. It worked. No Christian could have saved me. It took a supernatural work of GOD to do that. JESUS forever + The HOLY BIBLE = Good-bye Satan!
i haven't seen this video for about 2 years, and I will never forget this message, many teach others that God couldn't love them for who they are because of what someone thinks God hates, and the Gospel teaches you that God is love
HA! There are hateful comments flying everywhere on this video. Who cares if people want to believe in a mystical man that writes their ethics for them. All that matters is that as a people we are good to one another, no madder who is or isn't watching.
dnt read this(cuz it really wrks). u will gt kissd on the nearest frieday by the love of ur life. 2mara wll b the bst day of ur life hwever if you dnt post ths comment 2 at least 3 vids u will die withn 2 days nw uv startd readn this dnt stp this is so scary snd ths ovr 2 5 vids in 143 mins when ur done press f6 nd ur crush's name will appear
@gioshmedina You can find this whole sermon on desiringgod's website. it's just desiringgod (dot) org. You go to resource library on the tab bar. Then conference messages. Then 2009 pastors conference link. It's called A Shepherd and His Unregenerate Sheep
However all things in the Bible are detailed. For instance, in Matthew Jesus tells the fisher man to throw there nets on the left side of the boat and they will catch fish. God tells Jesus to lay on his side for over 390 days. That is just not how Myths work. Sorry.
This is where a lack of faith on your part comes in, not to be offensive. But no, we are not born secular minds. Because God calls even those who are not born in an area where they can be taught the Gospel, but He calls them to believe simply because what is around them. That would be impossible with a secular mind. There are not many gods in the bible as you say there are, there are references to gods of other false religions, but only one true God. Myths can not, by definition, be detailed.
This imagined person? I dont want to argue with you, but it is historical not just biblical. Josephus, a historian at the time, recorded the HISTORY of this happening. The death and persecution is historical, as well as the resurrection being HISTORICAL. Not just biblical, he wrote of a man traveling the lands and performing these miracles. You can not argue that He, Christ, as being imagined. It is historical, it happened, not just biblically. As for confusing, yes, to the secular mind it is.
@AdventuresOfZack We are born with secular minds. And to clear something up, the message of christianity is so obscure (confused) that it makes no logical sense at all. A god sends down a son for sacrifice, and the sacrifice is for humans in perpituity - to save their "souls".
BTW the bible contains many gods - look it up.
The whole message is an amalgam of plagarised myths, it is without foundation or truth. There is no reason to believe or need it.
@AdventuresOfZack resurrection is all bull shit. it's a story made up. stop believing this. think about this world man. we are merely a small part of continuing life on earth. no different than a tree or a river that flows or the sun that shines down and gives us life. Religion is just a man-made concept. nothing more. God is only an idea created by uninformed people who lacked the scientific knowledge we have today. WAKE UP! open your eyes! and stop spreading these lies you can't even prove.
@ryanneglect The resurrection is a HISTORICAL fact man, it is not simply a biblical tale. Every year on Easter Discovery Channel tries to give a crap theory about it. But what they say makes no logical sense at all. They say that after He (Christ) was HISTORICALLY beaten and tortured, then hung on a cross and died, that He was actually just put in a coma. Three days later they say He came up from the coma and walked SEVEN miles to Emmaus. After such a beating there is no walking, nor living.
@mahoganyrush300 Yes I know man, no dispute on that. I was specifically talking about the 21 hours that they beat him before they even put him on the cross.
BTW, Chandler is good. I envy his presentational skills - and also I hope he survives his BT and recovers well, but his message is false. There are no gods.
Find morality and caring within yourself, and don't give the responsibility to a dubious outside agency. (Especially one that gets you to behave by threatening you with everlasting torture!)
I've never heard this man before. I am So incredibly glad I did! I'm an x drug dealer// addict saved by God's grace. The truth is God kept calling me, I kept going to church and for over ten years I was spitefully used. Eventually God won out and I learned to trust in the word and not religiousity. Praise God, for the true gospel. Thank-you so much for airing this.
@cozmicgravy David, well done for curing yourself, Brilliant! But you take the credit. Do not imagine that a hazy, mis-quoted, ever-changing myth dating from a time of ignorance and superstition was responsible for something you did.
The greatest story ever told is the Gospel. The joy that comes from knowing that The God of the Universe died for us, even as nasty, disgusting, sinful, and undeserving people. This is because of the great love for us that He has. He spoke everything into existence but get this, He stitched everyone of US by His own hand with extra care. He could have just spoken us to be but He took the time to make us. For God so love the world that He gave his only son, that is amazing! Truly amazing!
@AdventuresOfZack …And this (imagined) execution of an (imagined) person was all pre-ordained, wasn’t it? Supposed to happen – and we are supposed to derive meaning from it…
Your beliefs are confusing and confused.
(By the way, at the time of the “resurrection”, the story says, the local graves all opened and the dead walked among the living – so everyone was at it!)
Read what you said “joy from knowing that The God died for us…” Really ? If you were at an execution (2,000 years ago or today), would you not feel compelled to try and stop it?…
I am the rose, I've been through so many hard times and this makes me cry every time because I really am the rose. It will never cease to amaze me how much God will always love me. Matt Chandler is an amazing Godly man who has touched my life in so many ways.
@Kimbee615 Religion is made up. There are no gods. No beforelife, no afterlife, no heaven/hell.
The world is good for some of us, if we can try to make it good for everyone, then so much the better. Dependence on supernatural beings and myths is unhelpful and dangerous.
The universe is wonderful, marvellous - but it is not magical. Live today. Peace.
@itsoddieyo I only acknowledge that there are christian people who believe in a god – that doesn’t mean I believe any of it, does it? I acknowledge islamists as well, and buddhists.
Slave: person who is legal property of another, and is bound to absolute obedience; human chattel.
It’s not just a life of grovelling, it’s an eternity, you say.
I want more truth in the world. More thought. More responsibility.
I have the right to speak only. If that shakes your belief, then good.
@hannahispaintedred i believe that it was obvious that the other speaker was intending for his message to say that you shouldnt pass out your body to other people. while i wasnt there it sounds as though the pastor never mentioned Jesus wanting the rose rather it was just a fearmongering sermon intended to scare its listeners into living a clean lifestyle rather than realising that glorifying Jesus with our actions is why we should live a godly lifestyle.
@7god7father7 i think that's exactly what the pastor was trying to say, but at the same time, Jesus still wants and loves the rose no matter how many people touched it.
This is the third time i've watched this in the past 12 hours and it never fails every time i get goose bumps. the only thing i have to say about this is AMEN!
This was sent to me by a friend. I don't consider myself religious, mostly because I don't like the churcfh. But, this is a beautiful message and very true to my life experience, esp. my experience with mental illness.
Shoot man, have some respect for other people & what they believe lol, saying stuff like that in public won't get you anywhere... If u haven't found out already lol
Hey guys, just wanted to direct everyone to a new ministry site listed on the channel's page. (Youtube doesn't allow websites in the comments) It'd be great if you all went to that website and read/commented the blog posts. And saved it to your favorites. Love you guys and can't wait to worship with you in heaven.
the great mystery of today is not that the wicked would be condemned to an eternity they have chosen by determining to deny God, the great mystery is that such a God would come and seek Men and Women to inhabit His heaven..but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. Romans5:8, 9. He sent His Son to die for all. it is us who reject THE way.
ummm.... what this guy failed to mention is that at the end of the rose analogy they always end it with "the world would reject this rose but jesus would want it, and take it, and make it beautiful." i've heard that story preached multiple times and the whole point is that Jesus will take it in the end. Instead he is making the preacher seem wrong when is it one of the best analogies ever used. I am a teen and that always reminds me that i need to keep my body pure
ummm.... what this guy failed to mention is that at the end of the rose analogy they always end it with "the world would reject this rose but jesus would want it, and take it, and make it beautiful." i've heard that story preached multiple times and the whole point is that Jesus will take it in the end. Instead he is making the preacher seem wrong when is it one of the best analogies ever used. I am a teen and that always reminds me that i need to keep my body pure
As a former atheist who hated Christianity, I used to do the same thing as a lot of the people in this comment section are doing. I hope God reaches you the same way he did with me. It took a long time, and I had to read A LOT and do A LOT of research, but he did finally reach me. And if God was that patient, that loving, and that forgiving with someone like me...he is with you too. I don't know your life, but I know my past, and it wasn't pretty.
@TraumaConcept well you did something wrong my friend. you found nothing. you created the idea of a god in your own brain and believed it. you are diluted. i'm saddened to hear that you were an atheist, but have fallen into the lies of religion. you were never a true atheist. atheists don't hate Christianity. we don't hate anything. we just KNOW that ALL religions are false. who's to say that christianity is even THE religion? that's very, very ignorant. there are thousands of religions.
@TraumaConcept I was an atheist until I was 20. I wasn't looking for the meaning of life or the Bible. He just made Himself known to me. I was in awe. I also hated Christianity for many of the spiritual abuse that satan has inflicted on people and using people to inflict it. I had no idea what spiritual abuse was until God opened my eyes to it. So wonderful to hear of another atheist that God reached :) No one needs to lose faith if they have a loved one who does not believe in God.
@embluewinged I was an atheist until very recently, and it's amazing that even on something as superfluous as youtube you can feel connected to other believers. The beauty of the gospel seems really difficult to articulate, and then you see someone like Chandler preaching and you can't help but see the work God is doing through His people.
i love how many people were led here to see this video yet still reject the Gospel. Are you sure you don't question if he might be real in your heart? Why this video then?
@oOMattCOo No...wow... I'm asking you a question. "has someone told you that?" Because if they did they obviously aren't listening to anything the gospel says. You can't condemn someone to hell. Its like playing God and passing judgment on something they have no right to. Its been so long since I was on here trolling so i forgot what I was going to say.. pretty useless now because you think i'm one of those ppl.. oh well. Just know that those ppl don't rep Christ. They're just legalists.
Church today is not Biblical, and a good theology and a reborn message is not enough! Are we always going to be dealing with the basics? When we will press onward to maturity?
The church revolves around preaching, as opposed to praying.
The church spends more time hearing sermons than praying together.
Everyone does not have a role in the modern church
Cessationists?!
Where are the men seeing visions? The bride has changed? She and Christ are one, unchanging!
I think I've watched this video 40 times over the last week. It constantly reminds me of how I am that rose. Not mangled and torn up by sexual sin, but by all kinds of sin and evilness in my own life. No one would want me if they knew all of that. But Jesus wants the rose. Jesus wants me. Hallelujah!
@steelbrushtattoo As Baron d'Hobach said in Systems of Nature, "Ignorance and fear created the Gods" and that authorities, religious or otherwise, are "kept alive by the blindness of men."
Christians and atheist have killed a lot of people, but religion killed billions of people in the name of their gods. Amazing Grace was a name of a slave ship, so we know that christians took part in slavery. The christian religion is dead, but it is being kept alive by ignorant people who are afraid of hell. Religion plays on fear and prays on the weak like a predator, and those who defend religions must defend to atrocities of the old testament too. New Religious Holiday 9-11 Happy BBQ Day.
@steelbrushtattoo ello... yea Christians killed people but thats not what the Christian faith instucted them to do.. Christians are still people, still imperfect, still stupid (they are human), but Christ did not kill. Christ is our example, our savior, our window to God. Salvation through Christ does not promise perfection for the one who seeks salvation... it never did, it is the coverer of our sin. True Christianity is not a religion, its a relationship.. the people who treat (cont....)
@steelbrushtattoo .... like crap for not being Christians are the ones who are making it a religion... a list of do's and don'ts. Thats not what Christ came to do. read the Bible and see for yourself.. dont look at "christians" as your example of Christ.. read what he wrote for us. I will say that Im sorry that many christians arnt doing what they are supposed to do.. love
@steelbrushtattoo As Baron d'Hobach said in Systems of Nature, "Ignorance and fear created the Gods" and that authorities, religious or otherwise, are "kept alive by the blindness of men."
Wow, I wasn't sure were that was going, but he sure pinpointed the truth! I have not listened much of Chandler, but I am started to see that God has given him love for Christ and wisdom to teach the grace of God.
I think Matt might be in the wrong on this one because the preacher was trying to convey that it wouldn't be wise if you were sleeping around, i doubt he was saying you were beyong being saved by Christ, Matt is in the wrong here.
@efan27 yes thats probably what the pastor was trying to convey, but do you think that's the best thing to say to a woman who is having an affair and who doesn't know Jesus? That probably made her feel worthless.... It's really sad...
True I'm sure he didn't know, but maybe he should have said something about Christ. and how Christ can forgive and heal. and maybe he did. Neither one of us were there. Seems like if he was preaching a sermon it would be more than just teaching a sex ed class.
@efan27 The main point Matt is making is how churches act as an enemy to conversion. If you're preaching in a church, you should never assume that everybody there is a Christian. Assume they're not. Even then, talking about all the bad things that could happen if you have sex is not the best way to go about it. If you're not in love with God and his plan for sex, fear won't work for very long. We need to constantly be intentional and gospel centered.
@efan27 regardless of the man's point, his presentation was horrific. What is Kim going to think when she walks out of that "service?" That she is a bent, broken, and "jacked-up" rose, of no value; this being a real shame, considering that that would be the polar opposite of what Christ's redeeming love is all about. Matt couldn't be more right on.
@efan27 Yes, the preacher was trying to convey this, and his illustration has value. But when Jesus (for example) met the woman at the well in John 4, he shared a message of truth AND grace. Matt's point is that the church does a poor job communicating grace to the broken, and this particular instance illustrates that point very well.
@bookingtime Out of curiosity, why do you not believe this is sound doctrine? What else is more sound than "While we were still sinners, Christ died for us" (Rom. 5:8)?
@bookingtime Out of curiosity, why do you not believe this is sound doctrine? What else is more sound than "While we were still sinners, Christ died for us" (Rom. 5:8)?
explain please? i'm assuming you're coming from a Romans 13 perspective in reference to submitting to authority as God has placed all authority in their respectful place of authority, including this man who presented a metaphor that Chandler disagreed with, and it is therefore wrong of us to resist that. but i'm generally curious. explain?
Grace means blessing for those who are undeserving or ill-deserving. But that also does not mean that you go on sinning. As Paul put it, "how can we who have died to sin go on sinning? Let it not be." (Sorry I may have paraphrased a bit but am positive that I did not stray from the message of the text). Jesus wants that rose but what he wants more is to repair that rose, even better restore, and even better he wants to make that beaten down rose to be made new in him
Wow! Thankyou!
Bentclark 2 days ago
MetroPraise, neither you nor john edwards have one clue who God is, or what He is really all about. There are many supposed "men of God" throughout history who litterally had nothing whatsoever to do with God. You want the real Gospel? Read Jesus, Read about the new Covenant in Jeremiah, Read Paul. even read James. You will not find an "Angry" god anywhere in there. Wrath in the new testament in the word Orge wich simply means strong passionate desire.
hellbindercda 3 days ago
Thank you for this amazing message!
ksteele008 6 days ago
You know how people carry the team on their shoulda and they make that joke "my back hurts from carrying the team".... Jesus' back must be broken from carrying the world
Tony2xs1 1 week ago
@Tony2xs1 To God the entire universe is the size of the head of a pin.
hellbindercda 3 days ago
I want this video on my M530w phone.
lavernlarsen48 1 week ago
That was beautiful.
TheLatinGuitarist 1 week ago
@TheLatinGuitarist Yes I love the emphasis by Matt C. on God's free gift of grace & God's ferocious love for all. Guys like Matt C help us to talk to God intimately as our Father, as we come to Him in all of our desperate fallen far short need. Being needy and admitting we are a sinner & that we are "far gone" before God--this is a good thing...because only then can God save us, heal us & help us to see that God totally accepts us undeservedly and unconditionally. All gift.
gracereceive 1 week ago
Just one more quote from Edwards... I believe this is the best one, "Yea, God is a great deal more angry with great numbers that are now on earth: yea, doubtless, with many that are now in this congregation, who it may be are at ease, than he is with many of those who are now in the flames of hell." Ahhhhhh... love hearing the real Gospel win souls to Christ!
MetroPraise 1 week ago
He is colliding with the real Gospel. The Gospel calls SIN-SIN, tells young people to HATE EVIL-CLING TO GOOD. Brings both GRACE and TRUTH. Too bad Matt missed the preachers point and thus sided with sin to make his. I wonder what he would have thought if the preacher's message was, "Sinners in the Hands of An Angry God?" Side note, I sense he and Piper are getting "Gospel-Light."
MetroPraise 1 week ago
@MetroPraise Quote from Johnathon Edwards, "They deserve to be cast into hell; so that divine justice never stands in the way, it makes no objection against God's using his power at any moment to destroy them. Yea, on the contrary, justice calls aloud for an infinite punishment of their sins. Divine justice says of the tree that brings forth such grapes of Sodom, "Cut it down, why cumbereth it the ground?"
MetroPraise 1 week ago
@MetroPraise They are already under a sentence of condemnation to hell. They do not only justly deserve to be cast down thither, but the sentence of the law of God, that eternal and immutable rule of righteousness that God has fixed between him and mankind, is gone out against them, and stands against them; so that they are bound over already to hell. John 3:18. "He that believeth not is condemned already."
MetroPraise 1 week ago
@MetroPraise Another Quote from Edwards, "They are now the objects of that very same anger and wrath of God, that is expressed in the torments of hell. And the reason why they do not go down to hell at each moment, is not because God, in whose power they are, is not then very angry with them; as he is with many miserable creatures now tormented in hell, who there feel and bear the fierceness of his wrath."
MetroPraise 1 week ago
@MetroPraise you missed the point of what Matt Chandler is saying. The preacher was saying that no one would want something tattered and broken like that, but that Jesus did want the rose, because we don't have to be clean and perfect to be saved, in fact the whole purpose of Him coming to earth was because we can't save ourselves. If you've listened to either of their sermons, you would know that they aren't "gospel light" like you proclaim they are getting
cinderella9202003 1 week ago 2
I love the fact that as a new Christian, I walked into the Village Church and knew I was home. I am so thankful for Chandler, for his servants heart, for this message, and the many many times I have shared it with others. Soon, I will write about my very first day at the Village Church on my blog.
Darlinghollie 2 weeks ago
Thanx I needed this tonight. Jeanette
biblebrat78 3 weeks ago
I can't watch this enough.
mrhankey20 1 month ago
i love this <3
Stellereyes 1 month ago
Jesus does indeed want the rose, AMEN. He died for all the broken roses. BUT... the pastor wasn't giving a gospel message. He was giving a sexual purity message, and... we are not Jesus! So wanting the rose instead of someone who is sexually pure, is hard! I know, I just got married at age 35, as a virgin, to someone who had 17 different sexual partners, for an uncountable amount of times. Thank you God for the grace to overcome!
kwabenabruni 1 month ago
@kwabenabruni Every message--including, no, ESPECIALLY one on sexual purity--needs to be a gospel message. The gospel isn't just what we need to hear to get us in the door; it's what we need every single day of our lives.
manders76 1 month ago
@manders76 Your are correct, the gospel should be preached in all messages!
kwabenabruni 4 weeks ago
@kwabenabruni It is allways a gospel message. :P
1unisol1 3 weeks ago
For all the time I've spent far, far away from anything Christian... this was an incredibly compelling and powerful demonstration of one person's passion for forgiveness. I still don't agree with the doctrine and I think we'd all be better of finding our own forgiveness to that degree, but dude-man is still majestic in his emotion.
walkingmyshadow 2 months ago
I dont really understand what hes trying to say(its because of my poor english) can anyone explain the message for me?
jeongwon1 3 months ago
@jeongwon1 he was basically saying that Jesus wants those who are considered to be "undesirable". have you watched the full message? it might help to clear up some things since this is just a clip
sincerelynlove 2 months ago
Lol
derekadavis87 3 months ago
22 people are smart enough to not take the rose.... LOL
TxTechAirRAID 4 months ago
@TxTechAirRAID Christ still loves you. =]
SiIverxLight 3 months ago
@SiIverxLight Thank you haha. I'm glad you specified that CHRIST loves me. The reason I say that is if you had said "God" loves me, I'd of been a smart ass and said "which god? Ra, the real original god of the sun?"... since all religions are basically ripped off of that one
TxTechAirRAID 3 months ago
how in the hell did i end up here
stephmc111 4 months ago
so do yall actually believe that if you were born in say, India, you would be christians? or will you admit that there is quite the localization of religion? so basically, because you were born in a certain region, you are saved? lLMAO
TxTechAirRAID 4 months ago
@TxTechAirRAID there are christians
thegarett3 3 months ago
plus hes so condescending to anyone who doesn't believe in a god that has been ripped off from many other "gods" such as Ra, of ancient sumeria.. do some freakin research. christianity is one big lie
TxTechAirRAID 4 months ago
yeah and he doesn't deserve his hot ass wife.. he probably cries after sex LOLOL
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thronewords1 4 months ago
I think he meant, who would like to have that rose as in, who would like to have that done to you. To have that be your state, your emotional state. If not, I agree. He's an idiote.
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TxTechAirRAID 5 months ago
SMH, this guy is obviously a virgin...
TxTechAirRAID 5 months ago
@TxTechAirRAID he has a wife and a family so yes, hes obviously a virgin and or ghey...
illPlaySoccerForFood 4 months ago
@illPlaySoccerForFood hes still a douche..your god is a fraud
TxTechAirRAID 4 months ago
what a tremendous example of someone missing the point!!!!!!!!
--the minister was teaching thevalid dangers of promiscuity and this guy totally misses it ...so sad
and then he judges the minister harshly byt doing a bait n switch illustration on him
jmkeeter517 5 months ago
@jmkeeter517 I think it's the other way round. The minister missed the point entirely. He had a HUGE witnessing opportunity to throngs of young people and, rather than preaching the love of Christ, he decided to make people with promiscuous pasts (like Matt's friend) feel bad about themselves. I don't think you quite understand the video. No disrespect, of course.
tHeEtHmAn18 4 months ago
@jmkeeter517 but listen...he was never judging the minister. He just didn't agree with his message. And he's right. The preacher failed to make the point the Jesus always always always wants the rose, which is crucial to a message on this subject.
impaigeasaurus 3 months ago
god bless you!
Thuva44 6 months ago
AMEN
lookoutlivshere 8 months ago
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AtheistKiwi 8 months ago
preach!!!!
MCEnchilada 8 months ago
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I don't wanna give s*ht , I don't know what jesus wants but you deserve a good fuck boy. Just shut the f..k up.
timed99 8 months ago
Former medium, with a new age view of GOD. I loved JESUS from childhood, but had not read The Bible and distrusted Christians, as they judged everything I considered 'holy' as evil. One day I accicentally ministered to a demon 'knight'. GOD allowed me to experience the sheer terror of being directly exposed to the demonic. It worked. No Christian could have saved me. It took a supernatural work of GOD to do that. JESUS forever + The HOLY BIBLE = Good-bye Satan!
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youneekk 8 months ago
this is the difference between the Pharisee view on people and Jesus view. Jesus is beyond beautiful.
embluewinged 8 months ago
i haven't seen this video for about 2 years, and I will never forget this message, many teach others that God couldn't love them for who they are because of what someone thinks God hates, and the Gospel teaches you that God is love
MrSuperEman 8 months ago 2
HA! There are hateful comments flying everywhere on this video. Who cares if people want to believe in a mystical man that writes their ethics for them. All that matters is that as a people we are good to one another, no madder who is or isn't watching.
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yumeoflight1 8 months ago
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xRisingForcex 8 months ago
Gave me chills and is so true. That is the Gospel! Praise God.
danniiangelbabii 8 months ago 3
i am buddist. and if you want to do you thing do it. the only thing that bothers me is when you force your thing into mine. just wanted to say that
GamingGoneNormal 8 months ago
Did he actually screem ou tthat at the thing?
desasterz 8 months ago
anyone know where i can see this whole sermon?????
gioshmedina 8 months ago
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@gioshmedina this was at a desiring god leadership conference in 2009
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rosswilson2010 8 months ago
@gioshmedina You can find this whole sermon on desiringgod's website. it's just desiringgod (dot) org. You go to resource library on the tab bar. Then conference messages. Then 2009 pastors conference link. It's called A Shepherd and His Unregenerate Sheep
auskoo 8 months ago
Does anyone know how Matt and his family are doing?
bigbadwolff1 9 months ago
@bigbadwolff1 - They are doing well. Matt is still on Chemo but continues to get "clean" scans on a regular basis. Praise God!
KimCMem 9 months ago
@KimCMem thanks
bigbadwolff1 9 months ago
@bigbadwolff1 They are doing well. Matt is still on chemo but continues to get regular "clean" scans. Praise God!
KimCMem 9 months ago
However all things in the Bible are detailed. For instance, in Matthew Jesus tells the fisher man to throw there nets on the left side of the boat and they will catch fish. God tells Jesus to lay on his side for over 390 days. That is just not how Myths work. Sorry.
AdventuresOfZack 9 months ago
This is where a lack of faith on your part comes in, not to be offensive. But no, we are not born secular minds. Because God calls even those who are not born in an area where they can be taught the Gospel, but He calls them to believe simply because what is around them. That would be impossible with a secular mind. There are not many gods in the bible as you say there are, there are references to gods of other false religions, but only one true God. Myths can not, by definition, be detailed.
AdventuresOfZack 9 months ago
This imagined person? I dont want to argue with you, but it is historical not just biblical. Josephus, a historian at the time, recorded the HISTORY of this happening. The death and persecution is historical, as well as the resurrection being HISTORICAL. Not just biblical, he wrote of a man traveling the lands and performing these miracles. You can not argue that He, Christ, as being imagined. It is historical, it happened, not just biblically. As for confusing, yes, to the secular mind it is.
AdventuresOfZack 9 months ago
@AdventuresOfZack We are born with secular minds. And to clear something up, the message of christianity is so obscure (confused) that it makes no logical sense at all. A god sends down a son for sacrifice, and the sacrifice is for humans in perpituity - to save their "souls".
BTW the bible contains many gods - look it up.
The whole message is an amalgam of plagarised myths, it is without foundation or truth. There is no reason to believe or need it.
StrumstickJoe 9 months ago
@AdventuresOfZack resurrection is all bull shit. it's a story made up. stop believing this. think about this world man. we are merely a small part of continuing life on earth. no different than a tree or a river that flows or the sun that shines down and gives us life. Religion is just a man-made concept. nothing more. God is only an idea created by uninformed people who lacked the scientific knowledge we have today. WAKE UP! open your eyes! and stop spreading these lies you can't even prove.
ryanneglect 9 months ago
@ryanneglect The resurrection is a HISTORICAL fact man, it is not simply a biblical tale. Every year on Easter Discovery Channel tries to give a crap theory about it. But what they say makes no logical sense at all. They say that after He (Christ) was HISTORICALLY beaten and tortured, then hung on a cross and died, that He was actually just put in a coma. Three days later they say He came up from the coma and walked SEVEN miles to Emmaus. After such a beating there is no walking, nor living.
AdventuresOfZack 9 months ago
@AdventuresOfZack Jesus bleed to death on the cross, he rose flesh and bone no blood.
mahoganyrush300 9 months ago
@mahoganyrush300 Yes I know man, no dispute on that. I was specifically talking about the 21 hours that they beat him before they even put him on the cross.
AdventuresOfZack 9 months ago
@AdventuresOfZack Had they beat me like that, I would have died before they could ever crucify me.
mahoganyrush300 9 months ago
@mahoganyrush300 Yes, but it was Gods will that He didnt. If He (Christ) didnt go to the cross we would not have the washing of our sins.
AdventuresOfZack 9 months ago
@AdventuresOfZack True. But, I was refering to his strength versus my own weakness.
mahoganyrush300 9 months ago
where can i subscript Matt Chandler? thanks
sayalestari 9 months ago
@sayalestari "subscribe to"
BTW, Chandler is good. I envy his presentational skills - and also I hope he survives his BT and recovers well, but his message is false. There are no gods.
Find morality and caring within yourself, and don't give the responsibility to a dubious outside agency. (Especially one that gets you to behave by threatening you with everlasting torture!)
StrumstickJoe 9 months ago
where can i find the whole sermon?
pu186 9 months ago
I've never heard this man before. I am So incredibly glad I did! I'm an x drug dealer// addict saved by God's grace. The truth is God kept calling me, I kept going to church and for over ten years I was spitefully used. Eventually God won out and I learned to trust in the word and not religiousity. Praise God, for the true gospel. Thank-you so much for airing this.
David
cozmicgravy 10 months ago
@cozmicgravy David, well done for curing yourself, Brilliant! But you take the credit. Do not imagine that a hazy, mis-quoted, ever-changing myth dating from a time of ignorance and superstition was responsible for something you did.
StrumstickJoe 9 months ago
The greatest story ever told is the Gospel. The joy that comes from knowing that The God of the Universe died for us, even as nasty, disgusting, sinful, and undeserving people. This is because of the great love for us that He has. He spoke everything into existence but get this, He stitched everyone of US by His own hand with extra care. He could have just spoken us to be but He took the time to make us. For God so love the world that He gave his only son, that is amazing! Truly amazing!
AdventuresOfZack 10 months ago
@AdventuresOfZack …And this (imagined) execution of an (imagined) person was all pre-ordained, wasn’t it? Supposed to happen – and we are supposed to derive meaning from it…
Your beliefs are confusing and confused.
(By the way, at the time of the “resurrection”, the story says, the local graves all opened and the dead walked among the living – so everyone was at it!)
StrumstickJoe 9 months ago
@AdventuresOfZack The bible tells stories – you got that right.
Read what you said “joy from knowing that The God died for us…” Really ? If you were at an execution (2,000 years ago or today), would you not feel compelled to try and stop it?…
StrumstickJoe 9 months ago
I am the rose, I've been through so many hard times and this makes me cry every time because I really am the rose. It will never cease to amaze me how much God will always love me. Matt Chandler is an amazing Godly man who has touched my life in so many ways.
Kimbee615 10 months ago
@Kimbee615 Religion is made up. There are no gods. No beforelife, no afterlife, no heaven/hell.
The world is good for some of us, if we can try to make it good for everyone, then so much the better. Dependence on supernatural beings and myths is unhelpful and dangerous.
The universe is wonderful, marvellous - but it is not magical. Live today. Peace.
StrumstickJoe 10 months ago
@StrumstickJoe
the universe is wonderful, marvelous- but meaningless without God
Who are you to say what is truth and what is not?
It is also weird to see an atheist such as yourself post a comment on a christian video
I thought atheists did not acknowledge God
itsoddieyo 10 months ago
@itsoddieyo I did not acknowledge god, that would be absurd. By posting, I acknowledged only that there is a christian video!
Your world might be meaningless without your dependence, but do not assume that mine is.
It is not weird, I believe, to try one's best to free a few slaves.
Your concept of life, and of heaven, with eternal subservience and grovelling, would be hell to me.
And that's the truth!
I wish you well.
StrumstickJoe 10 months ago
@StrumstickJoe
God is directly connected to christianity and therefore you acknowledge him when you acknowledge christianity.
Free a few slaves?
We are not slaves,no one is forcing us to be christians
and if someone is forced into being a christian i feel sorry for them because you are not supposed to know God by means of force.
It is not a life of subservience and groveling,it's one of rejoicing and truth!
Why would you want to strip people of their faith?
By what means do you have that right?
itsoddieyo 10 months ago
@itsoddieyo I only acknowledge that there are christian people who believe in a god – that doesn’t mean I believe any of it, does it? I acknowledge islamists as well, and buddhists.
Slave: person who is legal property of another, and is bound to absolute obedience; human chattel.
It’s not just a life of grovelling, it’s an eternity, you say.
I want more truth in the world. More thought. More responsibility.
I have the right to speak only. If that shakes your belief, then good.
StrumstickJoe 10 months ago
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hannahispaintedred 10 months ago
@hannahispaintedred i believe that it was obvious that the other speaker was intending for his message to say that you shouldnt pass out your body to other people. while i wasnt there it sounds as though the pastor never mentioned Jesus wanting the rose rather it was just a fearmongering sermon intended to scare its listeners into living a clean lifestyle rather than realising that glorifying Jesus with our actions is why we should live a godly lifestyle.
eastcoastsurfer06 10 months ago
maybe he was trying to say not to be like the rose, passed around by many hands as a metaphore for multiple lovers in a lifetime.
7god7father7 10 months ago
@7god7father7 i think that's exactly what the pastor was trying to say, but at the same time, Jesus still wants and loves the rose no matter how many people touched it.
kyrakurtenbach 10 months ago
This is the third time i've watched this in the past 12 hours and it never fails every time i get goose bumps. the only thing i have to say about this is AMEN!
kyrakurtenbach 10 months ago
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j - sus wants the rose in his ass.
Welpeninfo 11 months ago
I absolutely love this video, our "Love and the Human Vocation" teacher showed us it in class. :)
royaisfrustrated 11 months ago 2
This was sent to me by a friend. I don't consider myself religious, mostly because I don't like the churcfh. But, this is a beautiful message and very true to my life experience, esp. my experience with mental illness.
slackful1 11 months ago
Flipping heck. That was really amazing. JESUS WANTS THE ROSE!
Amen brother!
Tomslifesongs 11 months ago 2
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Shoot man, have some respect for other people & what they believe lol, saying stuff like that in public won't get you anywhere... If u haven't found out already lol
2CODzilla 11 months ago
@sirakisalive Nope, he's not. He's talking about the man who spoke at the event that his friend's band played at.
aquamusiclvr 1 year ago
did he just diss his friend who played that concert? I'm confused.
sirakisalive 1 year ago
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gospeleternal 1 year ago
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What a fucking liar.
mumraaaaa 1 year ago
the great mystery of today is not that the wicked would be condemned to an eternity they have chosen by determining to deny God, the great mystery is that such a God would come and seek Men and Women to inhabit His heaven..but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. Romans5:8, 9. He sent His Son to die for all. it is us who reject THE way.
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ummm.... what this guy failed to mention is that at the end of the rose analogy they always end it with "the world would reject this rose but jesus would want it, and take it, and make it beautiful." i've heard that story preached multiple times and the whole point is that Jesus will take it in the end. Instead he is making the preacher seem wrong when is it one of the best analogies ever used. I am a teen and that always reminds me that i need to keep my body pure
inferiorprophet1 1 year ago
ummm.... what this guy failed to mention is that at the end of the rose analogy they always end it with "the world would reject this rose but jesus would want it, and take it, and make it beautiful." i've heard that story preached multiple times and the whole point is that Jesus will take it in the end. Instead he is making the preacher seem wrong when is it one of the best analogies ever used. I am a teen and that always reminds me that i need to keep my body pure
inferiorprophet1 1 year ago
@inferiorprophet1 must've not happened that time.
rdrministry 1 year ago
@inferiorprophet1 were you at the service he was in when he heard it? if not. don't say it like you know thats what he is doing.
chewerz 1 year ago
wait so was he mad at the guy who was preaching about no one wanting the rose, when actually jesus does?
leafclash 1 year ago
Chills. Every. Time. I. Watch. This.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNN!
bornahousecat777 1 year ago
As a former atheist who hated Christianity, I used to do the same thing as a lot of the people in this comment section are doing. I hope God reaches you the same way he did with me. It took a long time, and I had to read A LOT and do A LOT of research, but he did finally reach me. And if God was that patient, that loving, and that forgiving with someone like me...he is with you too. I don't know your life, but I know my past, and it wasn't pretty.
TraumaConcept 1 year ago 180
@TraumaConcept well you did something wrong my friend. you found nothing. you created the idea of a god in your own brain and believed it. you are diluted. i'm saddened to hear that you were an atheist, but have fallen into the lies of religion. you were never a true atheist. atheists don't hate Christianity. we don't hate anything. we just KNOW that ALL religions are false. who's to say that christianity is even THE religion? that's very, very ignorant. there are thousands of religions.
ryanneglect 9 months ago
@TraumaConcept I was an atheist until I was 20. I wasn't looking for the meaning of life or the Bible. He just made Himself known to me. I was in awe. I also hated Christianity for many of the spiritual abuse that satan has inflicted on people and using people to inflict it. I had no idea what spiritual abuse was until God opened my eyes to it. So wonderful to hear of another atheist that God reached :) No one needs to lose faith if they have a loved one who does not believe in God.
embluewinged 8 months ago 46
@embluewinged I was an atheist until very recently, and it's amazing that even on something as superfluous as youtube you can feel connected to other believers. The beauty of the gospel seems really difficult to articulate, and then you see someone like Chandler preaching and you can't help but see the work God is doing through His people.
vrobl3s 6 months ago 16
i love how many people were led here to see this video yet still reject the Gospel. Are you sure you don't question if he might be real in your heart? Why this video then?
xxbrasschicaxx 1 year ago
What's he say at the beginning, "My passion for the the invisible man who lives in the sky." Yep he's a retard.
bigboy45454545 1 year ago
GOD MAKES ME LAUGH.
AustinOpp 1 year ago
@AustinOpp me too, he can be pretty funny sometimes. But he's awesome lol
xxbrasschicaxx 1 year ago
That was fucking beautiful.
MetalMonster5 1 year ago
hahaha same name as me, except im not a gay bible basher.
FYI and other bible bashers, i dont care if you say im going to hell cause theres no such thing ;D
oOMattCOo 1 year ago
@oOMattCOo has someone told you you were going to hell in the past?
xxbrasschicaxx 1 year ago
@xxbrasschicaxx Has some one told you i dont give a shit? Oh yea i just did.
oOMattCOo 1 year ago
@oOMattCOo No...wow... I'm asking you a question. "has someone told you that?" Because if they did they obviously aren't listening to anything the gospel says. You can't condemn someone to hell. Its like playing God and passing judgment on something they have no right to. Its been so long since I was on here trolling so i forgot what I was going to say.. pretty useless now because you think i'm one of those ppl.. oh well. Just know that those ppl don't rep Christ. They're just legalists.
xxbrasschicaxx 1 year ago
Church today is not Biblical, and a good theology and a reborn message is not enough! Are we always going to be dealing with the basics? When we will press onward to maturity?
The church revolves around preaching, as opposed to praying.
The church spends more time hearing sermons than praying together.
Everyone does not have a role in the modern church
Cessationists?!
Where are the men seeing visions? The bride has changed? She and Christ are one, unchanging!
Icannottolerateit 1 year ago
I think I've watched this video 40 times over the last week. It constantly reminds me of how I am that rose. Not mangled and torn up by sexual sin, but by all kinds of sin and evilness in my own life. No one would want me if they knew all of that. But Jesus wants the rose. Jesus wants me. Hallelujah!
1johnbeliever 1 year ago 119
@1johnbeliever AMEN! AMEN!!
saintoccasionally 6 months ago
@1johnbeliever and he makes it clean
MrHappiness777 5 months ago
Sorry I Don't Understand What You Said Here
@steelbrushtattoo As Baron d'Hobach said in Systems of Nature, "Ignorance and fear created the Gods" and that authorities, religious or otherwise, are "kept alive by the blindness of men."
steelbrushtattoo 1 year ago
Christians and atheist have killed a lot of people, but religion killed billions of people in the name of their gods. Amazing Grace was a name of a slave ship, so we know that christians took part in slavery. The christian religion is dead, but it is being kept alive by ignorant people who are afraid of hell. Religion plays on fear and prays on the weak like a predator, and those who defend religions must defend to atrocities of the old testament too. New Religious Holiday 9-11 Happy BBQ Day.
steelbrushtattoo 1 year ago
@steelbrushtattoo ello... yea Christians killed people but thats not what the Christian faith instucted them to do.. Christians are still people, still imperfect, still stupid (they are human), but Christ did not kill. Christ is our example, our savior, our window to God. Salvation through Christ does not promise perfection for the one who seeks salvation... it never did, it is the coverer of our sin. True Christianity is not a religion, its a relationship.. the people who treat (cont....)
neonXprincess 1 year ago
@steelbrushtattoo .... like crap for not being Christians are the ones who are making it a religion... a list of do's and don'ts. Thats not what Christ came to do. read the Bible and see for yourself.. dont look at "christians" as your example of Christ.. read what he wrote for us. I will say that Im sorry that many christians arnt doing what they are supposed to do.. love
neonXprincess 1 year ago
@steelbrushtattoo oops i left out a word between my 2 comments (people) lol
neonXprincess 1 year ago
@steelbrushtattoo Umm that's the whole point of this video
GroovyChick718 1 year ago
@steelbrushtattoo As Baron d'Hobach said in Systems of Nature, "Ignorance and fear created the Gods" and that authorities, religious or otherwise, are "kept alive by the blindness of men."
madmax8903 1 year ago
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matt chandler is gay
MediadivisionFCD 1 year ago
Does anyone know how it turned out with the woman? I pray she was not forever scarred.
charlieman1986 1 year ago
@charlieman1986 i imagine affterwards he talked to her if he was that angry
tobiosnmakky 11 months ago
Wow, I wasn't sure were that was going, but he sure pinpointed the truth! I have not listened much of Chandler, but I am started to see that God has given him love for Christ and wisdom to teach the grace of God.
psk6565 1 year ago
The entire "A Shepherd and His Unregenerate Sheep" sermon is ridiculously good.
butterflykisses054 1 year ago
That was intense!!!!
tobisogba 1 year ago
:) Another born again Christian!!!
Domodeath 1 year ago
gives me goosebumps EVERY time!
Damaverick23 1 year ago 3
I think Matt might be in the wrong on this one because the preacher was trying to convey that it wouldn't be wise if you were sleeping around, i doubt he was saying you were beyong being saved by Christ, Matt is in the wrong here.
efan27 1 year ago
@efan27 yes thats probably what the pastor was trying to convey, but do you think that's the best thing to say to a woman who is having an affair and who doesn't know Jesus? That probably made her feel worthless.... It's really sad...
AWWCRAP08 1 year ago
@AWWCRAP08 but how does that pastor know matt is w/ a person sleeping around? he's not psychic.
efan27 1 year ago
True I'm sure he didn't know, but maybe he should have said something about Christ. and how Christ can forgive and heal. and maybe he did. Neither one of us were there. Seems like if he was preaching a sermon it would be more than just teaching a sex ed class.
AWWCRAP08 1 year ago
@efan27 The main point Matt is making is how churches act as an enemy to conversion. If you're preaching in a church, you should never assume that everybody there is a Christian. Assume they're not. Even then, talking about all the bad things that could happen if you have sex is not the best way to go about it. If you're not in love with God and his plan for sex, fear won't work for very long. We need to constantly be intentional and gospel centered.
meeks82 1 year ago 2
@efan27 regardless of the man's point, his presentation was horrific. What is Kim going to think when she walks out of that "service?" That she is a bent, broken, and "jacked-up" rose, of no value; this being a real shame, considering that that would be the polar opposite of what Christ's redeeming love is all about. Matt couldn't be more right on.
Damaverick23 1 year ago
@efan27 Yes, the preacher was trying to convey this, and his illustration has value. But when Jesus (for example) met the woman at the well in John 4, he shared a message of truth AND grace. Matt's point is that the church does a poor job communicating grace to the broken, and this particular instance illustrates that point very well.
jharkey3 10 months ago
My Favorite Chanlder story ever!
TheRockHobbit 1 year ago
AAAAAAAAAAAAAMEN!
rvboyett 1 year ago 2
well, this speech reminds me of so much frustration i experienced, trying to find happiness with christianity.
i'm sorry, but i don't need this kind of insanity in my life
watch him
he is a perfect example of the pure insanity that christianity and the bible produces...
god bless
ladyoprah 1 year ago
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well, this speech reminds me of so much frustration i experienced, trying to find happiness with christianity.
i'm sorry, but i don't need this kind of insanity in my life
watch him
he is a perfect example of the pure insanity that christianity and the bible produces...
god bless
ladyoprah 1 year ago
well
ladyoprah 1 year ago
dude.
frenchippy 1 year ago
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bookingtime 1 year ago
@bookingtime Out of curiosity, why do you not believe this is sound doctrine? What else is more sound than "While we were still sinners, Christ died for us" (Rom. 5:8)?
NoremacVII 1 year ago
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@bookingtime Out of curiosity, why do you not believe this is sound doctrine? What else is more sound than "While we were still sinners, Christ died for us" (Rom. 5:8)?
NoremacVII 1 year ago
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explain please? i'm assuming you're coming from a Romans 13 perspective in reference to submitting to authority as God has placed all authority in their respectful place of authority, including this man who presented a metaphor that Chandler disagreed with, and it is therefore wrong of us to resist that. but i'm generally curious. explain?
Yorranne1 1 year ago
Pure Gospel!
thevege 1 year ago 2
Wow!!!!!!!!! Love it!!! Amen!! I thought he was going somewhere else with it & he took it in a whole other direction!!! Wow!! That's real!
msyanicat19 1 year ago
Wow!!!!!!!!! Love it!!! Amen!! I thought he was going somewhere else with it & he took it in a whole other direction!!! Wow!! That's real!
msyanicat19 1 year ago
This is the same guy who worte the lyrics for the youtube science rap video beware the believers?
Ryosuke1208 1 year ago
That was Great! and`so true. Pray for Pastor Chandler as he is having Chemo right now.
BaptistPrayer 1 year ago
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sounds like a homosexual
adam5185553505 1 year ago
wow praise God i feel bad cuz i didnt even think of it till he said it...jesus wants the rose amen..thats powerful!!!!
21Llove 1 year ago
amazing and so true.
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fgh650 1 year ago
i bet he was talking about robbie seay
switch607 1 year ago
Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is Gospel preaching, and gospel ministering.
moisescho 1 year ago
Grace means blessing for those who are undeserving or ill-deserving. But that also does not mean that you go on sinning. As Paul put it, "how can we who have died to sin go on sinning? Let it not be." (Sorry I may have paraphrased a bit but am positive that I did not stray from the message of the text). Jesus wants that rose but what he wants more is to repair that rose, even better restore, and even better he wants to make that beaten down rose to be made new in him
XFinkEdgeX 1 year ago