Buffalo Plane Crash

[DeadRaymanWalking]

I had a fear of going on the Dash 8 on my way home from California....but I made it home safely...otherwise I wouldn't be standing here :)

[cruisemate]

A bombardier dash-8 Q-400 plane.

In Scandinavia known as the crash-8.

Has crashed in Buffalo. Oups.... Ajajaj !

Scandinavian airlines grounded them as they where seen as unsafe and that SAS costumers hade lost faith in them.

We´ll see if this was a pilot error or maininace screw up or construction fault !

[fluffycheep]

They were unsafe due to landing gear problems, not for falling out of the sky.

[cruisemate]

Not limited to landingear though... Probs with indications in cocpit ,lights going on and off. probebly has nothing to do with this, seems like pilot error. Maybe America needs better training of its pilots?

[kimmer6]

See below, Sadie. I would be interested in the data on the power settings on the engines. It may have power dived from 2000 ft straight down, concentrating the debris field to the house at 6038, not even damaging their garage. Perhaps the anti icing system failed. The pilot and copilot discussed the windshield icing long before the crash. If there was a system failure this may be a clue as to why the anti icing boots on the wings and tail failed to work. Mechanical failure, not pilot error...

[kimmer6]

Sadie, fool, don't trust asyone over 30, right? The flight data recorders were in the tail of the plane which was intact the next morning. Rime icing was most likely the cause of the crash, even though the anti icing switch was on according to the data recorder. Large pitch and roll excursions were also recorded after the gear was down and 15 degrees of flap was selected. It went out of control due to icing as the crew was raising flaps and gear. It probably dove vertically into the house.

[sadieaugust]

Only fools are falling for the ice theory.  How in the hell do they have the gull to display perfectly untouched voice boxes, new looking too, when they claim that the ball of fire was 5 stories high. Give me a break! These boxes should at least be scorched and if it was ice then more planes were flying too shouldn't there be more plane crashes. Are the victims families going to really swallow this?

[kimmer6]

Conspiracy, Sadie?

[1tonykirk]

sadieaugust,

I was up for work @ 5:30 am and turned on WABC-TV NY as usual. A reporter "live on the scene" was looking to interview the 'locals' and found a pair of young men about 20 who were "up late watching TV". They heard the sound of a loud low flying plane that didn't sound normal, ran outside & saw that the right engine was on fire. The plane was out of control, made a sharp u turn and fell to the ground". It was later that these two were left out and the Official Story was massaged.

[1tonykirk]

Sadieaugust,

I'm praying that somebody captured this interview.

Initially, I dismissed it as a horrible accident.

I heard what they said and it was ordinary and credible.

It wasn't until much later that I heard the " Official Story"

of "ICING" obviate their eyewitness statement.

One guy was fair and lanky with light brown hair, the other

wasn't quite so fair, very dark hair a huskier. Comparing them to their surroundings and the reporter, I'd guess both were around 5'10-6' tall.

[luisihne]

this is my theory, they had the airplane in autopilot, and the autoshit, but down the Flaps(you never put flaps when having icing on the wings!!!!! NEVER) so when that happen, the aiplane lost the lift from the horizontal stabilizer and went down. the pilot didnt try retratcing the flags, so she failed!

[LAtoOC]

Cooper is reporting hours after the accident. Initially all the reports said the weather was fine, and if you want proof look at the footage of the witnesses on ground, some are wearing t-shirts.

[mephestochaoticas]

one of the passengers on this flight was a 9/11 widow, PROOF that god has a sense of irony!

[Jakeof5]

or coincidence