Gunrange with Saiga 12, KelTec RFB 308 and Suppressed Glock

[tanhelmet]

Good guys with nice guns finish first. Nice post with your arsenal, multi caliber chaos for a complex world.

[SERVIAM2008]

@AkJohn74 It is a POS? What is? WTF are you talking about anyway? There are several weapons in this video. NONE of them malfunction! So which one are you crying about. And you really think anyone is going to go out and spend tens of thousands of dollars because they saw it in a fucking video game? My best guess is you're still under 13. At least, that would give you an excuse to say things that ignorant.

[Inklebonker1]

@SERVIAM2008 How is your RFB? haven't heard much about Kel Tec products but i am intrigued.

[TheGrandrobotmaster]

@SERVIAM2008 don't bother with this guy. he's most likely a troll. notice all of his comments are negative. Also note his repeated attempts to incite more arguments by calling people out on their spelling. He uses no real logic and replies only with "X is crap, Y is better" (don't get me wrong I'm somewhat a fan of Aks they are very reliable but they are not a "do all beat all" gun)

[TheGrandrobotmaster]

@SERVIAM2008 He may also be a mall ninja for mall ninjas often posess the mentality that their gun of choice is godly and everyone else's are toys compared to his.

[DevilWearsMulticam]

At 0:14 what's strapped to the dude's lower left leg?

[SERVIAM2008]

@DevilWearsMulticam Hellstorm kneepad. (It's a long story for those who don't know) Basically the inside of HUMMVE can be really uncomfortable to the ankles without wearing one on outside ankle (passenger = right ankle, driver = left and so on)

[032125]

@SERVIAM2008 Got that right. HMMWVs are damned uncomfortable if you are bigger than a teenage girl. The back seats are a shin-biter special.

[BuffaloPie]

@SERVIAM2008 Thats complete bull dude, its because knees pads slide down all the time and get really annoying after wearing them for long periods. Iraqi soldiers do it now after years of seeing U.S. soldiers doing it. Ive actually seen an IA soldier wearing a set of knee pads correctly and a set around his ankles. There is no tactical reason for it bro.

[SERVIAM2008]

@BuffaloPie I guess that's an arguement to which everyone has their own opinions, nevertheless, it serves some better on the ankle for the purpose I described than it was designed for. Depends on where you spend more time, rolling or dismounted

[emsmiller]

@BuffaloPie As far as using knee pads to protect ankles while riding in a HMMVE, I have several family members who served and they have pics of them wearing the knee pads around their ankle as well. I even asked about that and they said the same thing as Serviam2008. I have actually had a chance to ride in a HMMVE and it is damn cramped and I am not wearing gear! It makes sense to me. The work you guys do is tough enough without having bruised ankles. My thanks to all of those who served!

[MPWarPig6G]

@DevilWearsMulticam for the record I wear the dominant kneeling knee pad around my ankle because they're uncomfortable to wear around my knee. If I go to a static kneel then I can easily maneuver the knee pad to the knee as intended and continue putting rounds downrange. That's why I put the knee pad around my ankle in this video. Old habits die hard haha

[suprhero1]

The AA-12 DOES IT BETTER.

[SERVIAM2008]

@suprhero1 Wow, the voice of wisdom from another video game commando who's never had any time behind a real weapon.

[suprhero1]

@SERVIAM2008 i will buy you a Saiga with any kind of ammo you like. i will buy an AA-12 with Explosive rounds. we can duke it out any way you like. we will see how much of a smart ass you will be then.

[SERVIAM2008]

@suprhero1 Riggght. You're on then. You just go find a Class III dealer that will sell you a AA-12. That's a post '86 Class III. Not transferrable to civilians btw. And then find some of those Explosive rounds, only available to military, and not currently available TO ANYONE while in production trials. Meanwhile, I'll sit back with just about anything I want to pointed straight at that hollow head of yours - Stick to video games, you're over your head here.

[32middlelinebacker]

@SERVIAM2008 daaaaaaaaaamn you handed him his ass right then haha

[MrGunman11]

@suprhero1 You just got served!

[ccrazy1911]

tht is not a glock 17

[SERVIAM2008]

@ccrazy1911 It's a Gen 4 Glock 34

[brapboys503]

@ccrazy1911 Who said it was?

[SERVIAM2008]

@brapboys503 ccrazy1911 actually brought it to my attention that I had mislabeled the video description. I then corrected it.

[brapboys503]

@SERVIAM2008 Right on, bud. You serve?

[SERVIAM2008]

@brapboys503 I'm former USN, I've been working as an IC doing weapons and tactics instruction and security consulting for 4 years.

[brapboys503]

@SERVIAM2008 Right on man. They didn't allow me to serve. Too many health problems.

[ccrazy1911]

@brapboys503 the name of the video was changed

[Mryeadon]

What can is on the Glock 17?

[viperfide]

im guessing they are in the military or were because of the silencer and bullet proof chest color.

[imiritu]

why does the glock have that weird little stick on the back of the slide? simply for racking the slide i suppose...

[SERVIAM2008]

@imiritu Correct, it's just a charging assist device. Usually found in competition guns, best suited for pistol with optics that can get in the way of normal racking.

[free4life85]

A question for the owner of the RFB. Have you put it through any tests involving exposure to sand/mud/dirt? If you did how'd it work out?

[SERVIAM2008]

@free4life85 No torture testing was done with the RFB, only function. Why? Mostly because it's still just a Kel-Tec. There were a few issues with double feeds early on the gun which was not surprising but intentional torture tests were avoided because frankly nobody expects a Kel-Tec to survive such tests.

[juki009]

@SERVIAM2008 I am guessing you don't have much confidence in the design of the weapon? So we shoul stick with FAL or M1As for our .308 zombie guns?

[SERVIAM2008]

@juki009 The design of the weapon is nice in its conception but it still has many minor flaws or to work out or should I say it needs to be "refined" before it can be considered a combat worthy weapon. The KelTec company isn't known for that level of quality in their products. It's a company which targets the civilian market instead of competing for government or military contracts which hold a higher standard for their weapons.

[Jadervason]

@SERVIAM2008 This type of thinking has me a little puzzled. This is like extrapolating what the latest Cadillac will be like by reviewing a 15 year old Geo Metro.

[cobrachoppergirl]

Is it just me or is the range you have to engage your target with a shotgun way too short. At that range, hell, just go up to them and stab them with a bayonet or a club. Anybody with a common hunting rifle and generic scope in the woods could take them out before they even got close. That' would be my biggest skeptical concern about using any shotgun in a combat situation.

[SERVIAM2008]

@cobrachoppergirl I agree in a sense about limited range especially considering the Saiga is only smoothbore. It's intended for CQB, but it's large size would be a problem in close combat IMHO. I do think shotguns have their uses in combat, and rifled barrels can bring hits out to +100 yds, but for CQB, breaching and the like a smaller weapon would be the best bet. I'd be happy with my 870 or 590. Thanks for the comment

[SSGPops]

Any jams with the subsonic ammo? Were they reloads or manufactured? how does it handle with a hotter load?

and another question on the lighter side of things...how would you handle it if one of those paper targets ever bent down, picked up a weapon and started shooting back? would you hold the weapon with both hands? me? I would drop the weapon and hold the load in my pants with both hands as I ran away.

[lokallize]

is it posible to have a drum magazine in a bullpup just say'n

[SERVIAM2008]

@lokallize Sure but you'd probably need to have an extra elbow installed in your arm if you want to have a solid grip, lol. What I mean is that suree it's possible, just not practical.

[KJOSCOT]

@lokallize Yes, bit it would be better if you were using it with some kind of bipod or bench because it would be cumbersome.

[xPOSSUM45x]

Can u use a sling in conjunction with the RFB? I know Kel Tec has made a picattinny rail that attaches to the barrel where a sling could attach but what about the back?

[SERVIAM2008]

@xPOSSUM45x I'm not really sure. I only had a very short time with the weapon and wasn't concerned with using a sling at that time. We were just having some fun sending rounds downrange, instead of conducting any definitive type of tests. I'm sure KelTec developed this to be used with a sling, at least I would hope so, wouldnt make much sense to spend millions developing a combat weapon that cannot be slung. Still, worse things have happened, lol.

[Cliffswallow]

@xPOSSUM45x

There is both a rear sling attachment strut behind the magazine well (ambidextrous) and a small section of picatinny rail on the bottom of the buttstock (designed for mounting a rear mono-pod, but could be used for a QD sling swivel). There's also a front sling swivel on the front of the forend, which can be switched to either side. It comes with a 2-point sling in the box. If you want a single point sling or a convertible sling, Urban Slings makes a Sentry model for the RFB.

[SERVIAM2008]

@Cliffswallow Awesome! Thanks a bunch for the info, much appreciated!

[SERVIAM2008]

We did have a few double feeds in the beginning, and this was a new weapon. New as in, straight from the box, and DRY, lol. After adding a light coat of weapon lube to the action without disassembly it functioned perfectly. Several types of ammo were used, SP, FMJ and HP all in brass cases. This was the first bullpup I've fired that felt totally natural, almost as if I were holding a conventional rifle, the forward ejection also redirects gases and noise away from the face during operation.

[Reapers261]

How do you like the RFB? I have high hopes for the first American made bullpup. (I think its the first american made bullpup.)

[kansastwista]

@Reapers261 i beleive the bushmaster m17s was the first american bullpup.

[Reapers261]

@kansastwista The m17s was an Australian design that was made in the U.S.. The RFB was designed and is manufactured in the U.S.. 100% U.S.

[kansastwista]

@kansastwista i stand corrected

[KJOSCOT]

@kansastwista, Reapers261 Does anyone know where I can get my hands on one? It is hard to find since they stopped making it. Did anyone else pick up the design?

[kansastwista]

@KJOSCOT i've seen them on gunbroker from time to time., sorry that's all i know of