@ollieoniel Yes, I know; my own calculations indicated that I would have to weigh almost 1 ton to be able to produce a pressure of 500000 by balancing on a single fingernail.
@ollieoniel And how long would any nail remain in its original geometry under such pressure? It is not only in quantum mechanics that one has to take account of system interaction.
@ollieoniel Hahaha yeah. As long as the person is superman and has nails made from a completely unyielding substance. But then he may as well go the whole hog and sharpen his nails (with his teeth obviously since no nail clipper would work) to a single atom for some serious poking power. Us mere mortal however don't possess any tissue strong enough to withstand more than about 50,000 PSI (tooth enamel).
@Idiotsmakemesad It's a joke for god sake it is based on the fact that psi goes up as surface area goes down. second i can have my fingernails at any damn pressure i want, water can be put under any pressure as long as it is contained in a suitable tank. second if i was to use a v shaped grove i could push my nails into that and get that pressure. sort of like how a diamond cell works.
@ollieoniel I was really replying not to your joke but to your attempted justification which it seems your quite serious about. Even with V shaped groove you are dreaming. The force you apply to the groove is going to be distributed across the entire area of nail\groove interaction, not just the theoretical infinitesimally small point of the groove.
If you removed your nail and used it as a hydraulic fluid I guess its possible but that's hardly you achieving said pressure is it ?
@ollieoniel You seriously can't see the difference between a completely contained pressure vessel that amplifies its internal pressure to a central point using a series of progressively harder and harder materials and someone poking their nail into a groove? Think of your nail\finger as water because at the pressures you suggest that's exactly how it would behave. As you try and poke you finger in it simply flows out the side.
@Idiotsmakemesad my god you don't get it do you! if you can have softer material on the outside it acts like a pressure lens. The thicker a container the more pressure it can hold. thats why a rubber hoses can carry a 50,000psi water jet.
@ollieoniel I understand 100% and I'm trying to increase you understanding. The key difference is containment. In the BARs cell and a hydraulic line the softer material is contained on ALL SIDES by a more durable material. Your groove setup is NOT a pressure vessel, all it has for containment on one side is your spongy little finger.
When you poke your finger against the groove it will simply deform until it has a high enough surface area in contact to support the force you are applying.
@Idiotsmakemesad look at this point believe what you want . but i will leave you with this first cut your nail to the shape of the grove. second hydraulic lines are not contained on all sides by a harder material (that would make no sense you would just use the harder material). and third why would you use a rubber o ring in a hydraulic seal if it would just seep out of the space between the piston wall and the piston also o-rings are used to seal the pumps in these hydroforming machines.
@ollieoniel Hydraulic lines are made from braided steel with a rubber liner. By themselves the braids would leak fluid but the holes in the braid are so small that the pressure required to extrude the rubber greatly exceeds what it could handle in an unsupported form, AKA contained.
But anyway let me ask you this, what makes you so sure you can achieve 500,000 PSI, when you haven't done any calculations ? Do you believe that there is any limit at all? Do you have a ball park figure in mind?
@ollieoniel Because it was designed by an engineer that understands how materials behave and their yield points. However if you applied enough pressure and the braid was strong enough then that's exactly what would happen.
Anyway I think we are digressing. Back to your magic groove, do you think you even need to your nail ? Since you've so convincingly argued that material yield strength is irrelevant why not just use something like a cheese stick?
@Idiotsmakemesad no it was exactly on point if you knew what you were talking about. also do you know a bubble of colapsing water can create a high enough pressure to make a diamond?
@Idiotsmakemesad No, it was a joke, it means the discussion has gone to a point where it is irrelevant. It's to do with the fact that any internet conversation that involves calling the other person hitler has gone to a point where it is irrelevant and should be abandoned. Also by the way idiotsmakemesad is quite an arrogant name it might be better to call your self i think I am smart and i use what intelect i have to message my ego.
@ollieoniel OK in that case I agree, it wasn't even really a conversation. Conversations are where each person listens to the other and responds in some sort of appropriate way. I was listening to you, but clearly weren't listening to me. I guess because your so sure your right. Either that or you know your wrong but don't want to give me the satisfaction of admitting it. I hope for the latter.
Your probably right about my nick. But its not easy being humble when your so damn good. LoL.
@Idiotsmakemesad Ok if its that important your right. To be honest i dont know if I am right or wrong, I don't truely know anything, all i can say is what i see.
@ollieoniel See that's the thing its not about me being right.
The satisfaction, if I were to get any, would be from you knowing that I've increased the distribution of knowledge of the human race. That way we can become smarter as a society with smarter policies which is good for me and my descendants.
Your right about my nick its stupid and counterproductive. It should really read theundecuatedmakemeasad, but I guess even that oozes arrogance, I'll try and come up with something more neutral.
No, liquids can not be compressed, so there is no risk of explossion. The opposite, gas is compressible, if they fill with gas (ie air) and there is a break in the container piece, the air inside will try to expand, generating a explosion. Thats why the hidraulic test for any gas tube is done with water filling. When it cracks, the water come out slowly, and you will never get your explosion :( hehe
@firulaargentina Fluids are slightly compressible this as well as the elastic deformation of the pressure vessel containers means there is still alot of energy in a hi pressure fluid system
100.000 psi? ME GUSTA!
MrKarlAschnikov 3 weeks ago
0:23 thats what it looks like when i cum
thekingsora 2 months ago
Holy crap that's a high pressure!
BarneySaysHi 2 months ago in playlist Manufacturing Processes II
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Robot sex.
jkleli 3 months ago 2
how could you reach 100,000 psi???
No doubt it could be possible but
How is it??
kalubla007 4 months ago
100'000 psi.. holy shit
gummel82 7 months ago
nice hydroform..
molceonly 1 year ago
I can get that 5 times that pressure with my finger nails
ollieoniel 1 year ago
@ollieoniel Show your working.
flowerbower 1 year ago
@flowerbower It was a joke. because if you
lower the surface area you push on you
increase the psi and what are you stalking me now?
ollieoniel 1 year ago
@ollieoniel Yes, I know; my own calculations indicated that I would have to weigh almost 1 ton to be able to produce a pressure of 500000 by balancing on a single fingernail.
Yes
flowerbower 1 year ago
@flowerbower you have some thick fingernails there
ollieoniel 1 year ago
@ollieoniel Nope: 0.5" x 0.008". Do the math.
flowerbower 1 year ago
@flowerbower yes but you forget that most peoples fingernails are
curved so id go with 0.008 by 0.01 to account for the fact only a
small area is in contact. Don't leave out variables when you do
equations to suit your proof.
ollieoniel 1 year ago
@ollieoniel And how long would any nail remain in its original geometry under such pressure? It is not only in quantum mechanics that one has to take account of system interaction.
flowerbower 1 year ago
@flowerbower look i dont care anymore lets just say you win ok
ollieoniel 1 year ago
@ollieoniel Buzz Killington salutes you.
flowerbower 1 year ago
@ollieoniel Hahaha yeah. As long as the person is superman and has nails made from a completely unyielding substance. But then he may as well go the whole hog and sharpen his nails (with his teeth obviously since no nail clipper would work) to a single atom for some serious poking power. Us mere mortal however don't possess any tissue strong enough to withstand more than about 50,000 PSI (tooth enamel).
Idiotsmakemesad 1 year ago
@Idiotsmakemesad It's a joke for god sake it is based on the fact that psi goes up as surface area goes down. second i can have my fingernails at any damn pressure i want, water can be put under any pressure as long as it is contained in a suitable tank. second if i was to use a v shaped grove i could push my nails into that and get that pressure. sort of like how a diamond cell works.
ollieoniel 1 year ago
@ollieoniel I was really replying not to your joke but to your attempted justification which it seems your quite serious about. Even with V shaped groove you are dreaming. The force you apply to the groove is going to be distributed across the entire area of nail\groove interaction, not just the theoretical infinitesimally small point of the groove.
If you removed your nail and used it as a hydraulic fluid I guess its possible but that's hardly you achieving said pressure is it ?
Idiotsmakemesad 1 year ago
@Idiotsmakemesad the v grove thing works perfectly. go study hydrostatics or maybe just have a look at the BARS diamond cell.
ollieoniel 1 year ago
@ollieoniel You seriously can't see the difference between a completely contained pressure vessel that amplifies its internal pressure to a central point using a series of progressively harder and harder materials and someone poking their nail into a groove? Think of your nail\finger as water because at the pressures you suggest that's exactly how it would behave. As you try and poke you finger in it simply flows out the side.
Idiotsmakemesad 1 year ago
@Idiotsmakemesad my god you don't get it do you! if you can have softer material on the outside it acts like a pressure lens. The thicker a container the more pressure it can hold. thats why a rubber hoses can carry a 50,000psi water jet.
ollieoniel 1 year ago
@ollieoniel I understand 100% and I'm trying to increase you understanding. The key difference is containment. In the BARs cell and a hydraulic line the softer material is contained on ALL SIDES by a more durable material. Your groove setup is NOT a pressure vessel, all it has for containment on one side is your spongy little finger.
When you poke your finger against the groove it will simply deform until it has a high enough surface area in contact to support the force you are applying.
Idiotsmakemesad 1 year ago
@Idiotsmakemesad look at this point believe what you want . but i will leave you with this first cut your nail to the shape of the grove. second hydraulic lines are not contained on all sides by a harder material (that would make no sense you would just use the harder material). and third why would you use a rubber o ring in a hydraulic seal if it would just seep out of the space between the piston wall and the piston also o-rings are used to seal the pumps in these hydroforming machines.
ollieoniel 1 year ago
@ollieoniel Hydraulic lines are made from braided steel with a rubber liner. By themselves the braids would leak fluid but the holes in the braid are so small that the pressure required to extrude the rubber greatly exceeds what it could handle in an unsupported form, AKA contained.
But anyway let me ask you this, what makes you so sure you can achieve 500,000 PSI, when you haven't done any calculations ? Do you believe that there is any limit at all? Do you have a ball park figure in mind?
Idiotsmakemesad 1 year ago
@Idiotsmakemesad yes braided steel, then why doesn't rubber act like a liquid and seep out between the holes?
ollieoniel 1 year ago
@ollieoniel Because it was designed by an engineer that understands how materials behave and their yield points. However if you applied enough pressure and the braid was strong enough then that's exactly what would happen.
Anyway I think we are digressing. Back to your magic groove, do you think you even need to your nail ? Since you've so convincingly argued that material yield strength is irrelevant why not just use something like a cheese stick?
Idiotsmakemesad 1 year ago
@Idiotsmakemesad no it was exactly on point if you knew what you were talking about. also do you know a bubble of colapsing water can create a high enough pressure to make a diamond?
ollieoniel 1 year ago
@ollieoniel What makes you think I'm going to keep answering your irrelevant questions when you keep ignoring my completely relevant questions ?
If I can't get you to even consider the possibility that you might be wrong then there really no point in continuing.
Idiotsmakemesad 1 year ago
@Idiotsmakemesad all i'll say is your hitler.
ollieoniel 1 year ago
@ollieoniel I was just trying to help you. People like you make me sad.
Idiotsmakemesad 1 year ago
@Idiotsmakemesad No, it was a joke, it means the discussion has gone to a point where it is irrelevant. It's to do with the fact that any internet conversation that involves calling the other person hitler has gone to a point where it is irrelevant and should be abandoned. Also by the way idiotsmakemesad is quite an arrogant name it might be better to call your self i think I am smart and i use what intelect i have to message my ego.
ollieoniel 1 year ago
@ollieoniel OK in that case I agree, it wasn't even really a conversation. Conversations are where each person listens to the other and responds in some sort of appropriate way. I was listening to you, but clearly weren't listening to me. I guess because your so sure your right. Either that or you know your wrong but don't want to give me the satisfaction of admitting it. I hope for the latter.
Your probably right about my nick. But its not easy being humble when your so damn good. LoL.
Idiotsmakemesad 1 year ago
@Idiotsmakemesad Ok if its that important your right. To be honest i dont know if I am right or wrong, I don't truely know anything, all i can say is what i see.
ollieoniel 1 year ago
@ollieoniel See that's the thing its not about me being right.
The satisfaction, if I were to get any, would be from you knowing that I've increased the distribution of knowledge of the human race. That way we can become smarter as a society with smarter policies which is good for me and my descendants.
Your right about my nick its stupid and counterproductive. It should really read theundecuatedmakemeasad, but I guess even that oozes arrogance, I'll try and come up with something more neutral.
Idiotsmakemesad 1 year ago
@Idiotsmakemesad Well maybe if you're that passionate you should get into politics.
ollieoniel 1 year ago
If that thing sprang a leak, there wouldn't be any explosion -- just a jet of fluid strong enough to cut a man in half
baronvonmonstertruck 2 years ago
@AmericansSexualPreds correct!
tranvthuy 2 years ago
"High pressure can result in longer cycle times"...... (and greater explosion risks!)
waldenhouse 2 years ago
No, liquids can not be compressed, so there is no risk of explossion. The opposite, gas is compressible, if they fill with gas (ie air) and there is a break in the container piece, the air inside will try to expand, generating a explosion. Thats why the hidraulic test for any gas tube is done with water filling. When it cracks, the water come out slowly, and you will never get your explosion :( hehe
firulaargentina 2 years ago
@firulaargentina Fluids are slightly compressible this as well as the elastic deformation of the pressure vessel containers means there is still alot of energy in a hi pressure fluid system
thinfourth 2 years ago
it came
sandallw03 2 years ago 17
@sandallw03 Hell of a creampie.
Destructos 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
hydroforming sucks.
boxer3main 2 years ago
would love to see some sample products from this and a few examples of how the original tubes are formed. Great intro tho.
desertblbuesman 2 years ago
@desertblbuesman harley frames are hydroformed.
Duckyistrippin 2 years ago
southern california
cbau1029 3 years ago
Cool, I work in a hydroforming industry.
sqhschief 4 years ago
cool me to
cbau1029 3 years ago
Really? Where at?
sqhschief 3 years ago
badass
akulax2 4 years ago