THIS MAKES ME SICK, when whe talk about ww2 and and the war crimes, everyone pointing their fingers to germans, but when we talk about the atomic bombing nobody says that man, thoose fucking bombs killed almost 200.000 human beeings including children..
@89mrjohn But there is one thing you are forgetting. The Japanese were not going to give up. They would have kept sending troops to their death even though we have tried to get their surrender countless times. Even after the first Nuclear bombing the Japanese still didn't want to surrender and tried to fight back
@Bigolddragon What millions? Millions/=hundreds of thousands. Its still a massive amount of life that was lost, most of them non military, but not millions.
@Fourhand1917 well somewhere around 200.000 died and mostly civilians sorry if i typed millions even tough i was thinking about the those who did not died then but have been irradiated plus what about the flora and fauna?it was still a cruel act to do as vengence
@NxakoNecv that's one way however they already had lost almost all the valuable land they conquered and therefore the petrol and metal needed for waging a war lost,maybe just a blockade around them was enough but what's done it's done.
the atomic bomb is one of the most perverting ever build and enveloped things ever, droping it on Japan has been on of the biggest massmurder in addition to Hitler, its one of the frightense thing on earth and nearly any powerfull state on this earth got one, even instable once!^^ its kind of ironic if we fell secure
Why Usa dropped those bombs, were not based on anything with Japan, Hitler's Germany had fell and the Soviet Union turned their front againt Japan. If Usa would have fought "normal"
Then the soviet union would have got so much more land in asia, and Usa didnt want the ussr to be more powerful then they were.
There was no real hope of Japan surrendering prior to the atomic bomb. The Japanese people were activly preparing to fight to the death - they have museums in Japan about this. Atleast one has a ceramic grenade shaped like a doll intended for children suicide attackers. If the bombs weren't dropped, there would have been an invasion, and in addition to millions of American casualties, it would have essentially ended in the near genocide of the Japanese people.
@Zakath89 Keep one thing in mind though - America dropped the first bomb and Japan didn't relent in their stance. Even if there was a negotiation being discussed (which I sincerely doubt given the stern culture of Japan's military forces), they refuted the first bomb being dropped and only relented after the second one was detonated. I'm not saying anyone deserves that horror - but they also didn't respond properly if you're suggesting they were considering surrendering in the first place.
@Zakath89 Ya, there were plenty of negotiations, we gave them reasonable terms for surrender. We warned the Japanese government about the bombs over and over again. But NO! Emperor Hirohito wouldn't listen!
I've sent you a comment with additional information on your channel, it would behoove you to look into the website links.
does anyone else besides me marvel at a nuclear bomb and how a small tiny atom split can create something so powerful and unfriendly? amazing science is.
@seanowbo I think, that in 1945 was necessity drop 2 nuclear bombshalls. Cuz Japanese were fanatic and want fight to last man. So at least, I decided this bombs ''save'' a lot lives. My opinion of course :)
@JapaneseNevski I feel sorry for all the civilian too, but I wouldn't say that US couldn't win without it, after all, we won Iwo Jima, Guadal Canal, Guam, The Philippeans, Midway, Okinawa, and countless other battles without the atomic bomb. The atomic bomb was meant to end the war sooner. And if anything, it also showed the world not to do it again. Once again, my condolances to the victims. I'm just telling you, were not fascist cowards.
It's incredebly, the power of an atomatic explosion at that time has been compromised into a tennisball today, its surely more more effective, but for what?
The purpose of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his -George S Patton- That includes civilians When a country goes to war itw whole populace becomes a legitimate target in my mind as the civilians while not actively fighting are supporting their own countries war effort. The longer a war is allowed to continue the more will die on both sides this is inevitable. The bombs just expidited the wars end and thus saved millions of US AND Japanese lives.
If you dont know what to post in here about WWII , go back to School and ask where you can get all the great big books about it ! and then maybe take a trip to Germeny and japan and all the other places and ask some Smart ppl, then you get to post smart things in here .... ! :)
No 1. really Won WWII, just alot of dead Heros on all Sides .. :)
@keebut Actually they went exactly as far as the Russians, they stopped right before Berlin and let the Russians take it. General Eisenhower know how much losses it would take to capture the city and decided the "glory" of capturing Berlin isn't worth the lives of his soldiers.
But yeah the Russians where the ones that beat Germany IMO, they fought them for years, America joined the European war (Actual soldiers on the ground not air bombing & support) only on 6 June 1944 (D-Day)...
@keebut ahhhhh I see, I understand. Yes you are right abous Russia, Stalin asked the allies to halt 60 miles form the center of Berlin so that is Army could iteraly rape them into ground. On Hitlers 56th Birthday Gegori Zuchov sent over a million artillery shells into the heart of Berlin, the largest artillery strike of the century, though I could be wrong, Im not sure...
@keebut your a fucking idiot, these people are making legitamite points while you come in and just make an ass of yourself. A point for the future dont start a sentence with "dudes" if youre trying to make a point. fucking hippie
@Nutkicker54 Yes if you read my other comment it was a friend on my Youtube profile commenting on things he doesn't even know about. Sorry for the inconvenience.
In 1945 the US could have easily taken on the staggering USSR and established complete world domination, all thanks to the power of one weapon, but alas it didn't, a strong indicator of it's responsibility and will to coexist in the world. Imagine if Stalin was the sole owner of Nuclear weapons in 1945.
@PGTBeuregard If your thinking strategy, the U.S should have not declared war on Germany first but rather Russia and fought them. After Crushing Russia, we should have turned our sights on Germany and taken them out. WIth Europe in our control Japan would have fallen next then the pacific is ours. With Stalin and Hitler gone the world is a btter place. The AK-47 is nver invented, The korean war never happens, Vietnam never happens and the Gulf Wars never Happen. No 9/11. Sorry for the spelling
lol and it was not possible to demonstrate the bomb on a non-human target?? you make me lough so hard, hiroshima and nagasaki are US testing facilities...
@HarryTehHedgehog lol you realy dont know what you are talking about. "trinity" was the code name for the EXPLOSION, not the testing ground... and it was SECRET. how could the jap. fear/know about it? the US could just call Hirohito and tell him: "hey pal, look what we are able to do" and detonate 1 or 2 bombs in the desert or under water. but why miss such a great opportiunity for long-term study on real targets, right? so many nations have nukes, but only 1 used it EVER against humans...
@Gorwo Do u really think they would surrender if we has nuked a random island, They did not surrender after the 1st bomb was dropped meaning it took 2 before they gave up, a non human target=nothing.
u.s.a. sucks they always did they always will.....cowardly gay idiots only god for genocide and destroying cultures........as a matter of fact all current u.s. leaders should be burned alive....
the point of the bombs was to make them surrender before even MORE people died (at the cost of thousands of civillians, yes),----think about it, if the bombs werent used, we'd have to invade Japan head on, resulting in even more deaths (ON BOTH SIDES!)
@aabceacba So that the enemy does something bad means you're allowed to do it as well? They could have targeted military bases or just open ground. What happened at Hiroshima and Nagasaki is in no way better than than what hitler or stalin did, and every man responsible should never walk amongst decent men.
@ADRockstroh If they had targeted open ground that would mean nothing,A military target (Which hiroshima was a military target) like a base would not have resulted in surrender unless u attacked many more then 2.
@aabceacba Very true...millions on both sides would have needlessly died to 'save face'. Recently read a very interesting book about the Jap kamikazes called "The Sacrificial Lambs" scary shit...(includes the jap battle plan if the bombs had not been dropped)
@aabceacba actually you are wrong. US had to finish the war, and they needed to show their strenght. Nukes where made to get sure if Nazis start throwing them on USA, US army can respond them. They had to finish war in Japan, becouse it was nearly impossible to take over Japan in a invasion, becouse Japs would never surrender. They needed to show thei superior strenght to the world and Soviet Union. Nuclear Weapon made clear that if someone strike, there is no world anymore, so there was no WW3
@OrthodoxySoldier We're both right, they were meant to end the war sooner and show our strength, but it was also to save Allied soldiers from getting killed (at the time, we didn't care about the J soldiers, (I'm sure you know all in's and out's with that)).
My point was,....two cities are wiped out....but four Islands spared from head-on invasion.
@aabceacba you forget to mention the deaths that came after these 2 bombs cause of radiation after effects. Even if the atomic bombs was the only solution, i think only one was enough... but no... they wanted more... to totally perish japan... their competitors in economy.
@K0UK0U True, there were many deaths after the blasts, and one would have been enough. However, the reason the second bomb was dropped was because Washington didn't get a response from Japan. After waiting 3 days, they US government misinterpreted the delayed response as defiance, so proceeded with bombing Nagasaki. Try not to get me wrong, I don't hate Japan (just their generals in WW2). I'm just pointing out the other side of the story. But yes, I hear you.
@aabceacba yeah yeah usual excuse , btw why did thee west embargoed japan to stop its industrialisation first of all? what was the real reason west especially USA care about china ? because the ydidnt want japan getting more power , because they though japan was inferior to them and that you white people were superior, because they wanted china for themselves as it had a lot of resources , btw even in the 50s the americans raped 1000s of north koreans....
@aabceacba btw how many american indians have you people killed , raped , kicked the mout opf their lands during the indian wars? how many vietnamese girls were raped during the vietnam war? huh the japanese were as civilized as they are you people , btw what does this word 'civilized" really mean? the only difference then was that the japans were absolutely unwesternized but that doesnt mean they were barbarians or something.
@SuperTigerNo1 Civilized means that you have a high degree of technology, power, but most important of all, a humanistic culture, while Japan had the first 2, they didn't have a culture that put human life above all ... And yes the Europeans killed many natives but that's so long time by that we can barely compare... And about 'Nam, while their where a few fuck ups on the american side it was nothing compared to the barbarism the Japanese showed during the War. Although now Japan is awesome :)
@TheNinjazorz a few fuck ups in nam a few in iraq a few in n korea a few in afghanistan , a few in kosovo a few in ...... btw what were the british doing in india during ww2? how many islanders have you americans killed , raped ect in ww2? what was eisenhower death camp? anyway are you saying that these people had humanistic cultures???????
ok, most of you guys REALLY should do some research about WWII before you post your hate comments, think about it! THEY:*raped tens of thousands of chinese girls, daily *dissected thousands at Unite 731 (while they were still ALIVE!) *tortured many US and Philippinoes during the Bataan Death March *convinced thousands of islanders to commit suicide before the Americans came
@aabceacba - wanna say something like,they needed 2 A-bombs to push them to 20th century... i dont know i´m not interested in history so much ,i has only came on mind reading your post :) ...
@aabceacba i agree. If america would have American and her allies would have lost an estimated 250,000 men and the Japanese would have lost over 5 million soldiers and civilians. The Japanese trained the civilians in hand to hand combat so they would not surrender. The bomb, even though deadly and catostophic was the only way to win and end the war. Over 6 million on both sides could have died in a fullscale evasion of Japan.
@aabceacba I am amazed how you can make such a statement, generalizing an entire country. You make it sound as though everyone in that City was not for the most part a gullible civilian going about their daily lifes contricted by it's Government desperately trying to orchestrate a winnable war, but everyone one of them had blood of innocent people on their hands one way or another. Both nuclear attacks had nothing noble, they are not to be accepted as a legitimate solution. They were---
@aabceacba used as a means of breaking the will of any resistance. Not to impair defense or further aggression, afterall the predominant target was the civil population, not any specific military infrastructur.
And the American Government was not willing to muster the ressources needed to invade Japan, this has nothing to do with saving millions of Americans or Japanese by averting an invasion but with efficiency.
Primary concern was never the population on either side, but the ressources---
@aabceacba which would have been need to achieve their goal, surrender. Now to I'm making myself guilty of misrepresenting the Issue. I'm not trying to say I would have known of a better solution to Americas problem, namely ending the war, what I am however having trouble with is your statement concerning the decency of the Japanese people at that time. It is preposterous to claim everyone in those city's deserved to be vaporized into dust---
@aabceacba and is not legitimate to try to lessen the disgusting mass murders on those days, by demonizing the ones afflicted. I'm positive you make the distinction in my argument, not that I propose that I would have known a way to avert the nuclear attacks, but that I'm taking issue that you're trying to argue that the people that were killed deserved it.
@TheGuyAlwaysOnTime I wasnt saying the J civilians deserved it, I was pointing out that it was either an ENTIRE COUNTRY, or two cities....u do know that the Japanese soldiers would go on suicide mission instead of surrnder, and they were starting to arm civilian with spears, knives, and what not...a lot more wouldve died throughout J if we. When I said "they", I was referring to the J army and all the crap they did to everyone else. As for civilians, I didnt say THEY deserved it......
@TheGuyAlwaysOnTime However, I cannot emphasiz enough that I DO undrstand ur argument. I was intending that comment for all those guys saying stuff like "they did it bc they knew they couldnt win wthout the bombs. ** the US!". I wanted to point out what stuff the J army did. As for the civilians, THEY didnt deserve to die, but a lot more wouldv if we invaded head on. Try not to get me wrong, I dont hate Japanese ppl at all, I simply wanted to point out that it either ALL OF JAPAN or two cities.
@Netherw1nd Good point, everyone does so that, but all of what I said is true. China agrees with it, England agrees with it, France agrees with it, etc. The only country that denies it is Japan.
The bombs were meant to end the war quickly. I understand it wasn't the most honorable thing to do, but it was either that or destruction all over Japan.
2 cities ----- or an entire nation. Which would be worse?
@aabceacba Probably negotiations, ofc what is that, when we have mass destruction weapons to kill inocent people, families and brave soldiers in a second, then to justify the actions to world, since we are usa, we can do whatever we want, we are the best in the world.
Fun fact, did you know that before they detonated the first atomic bomb, the scientists were worried that detonating it would possibly ignite the atmosphere of the earth and turn it into a sun, yet they did it anyway, in the interest of science. lol.
You all look at this with such a short sided view. The Enola gay and her crew are heros. Saved the lives of millions of American and Japaese.
I know Im gonna take flak from this but before you submit your hate remember pearl harbor. Also what the japanese did to the chinese in the early war. How they raped and killed everyone for fun and their leadership dident even try to stop it.
@FordMan055 Encouraged it in many cases. Then when america was taking back the islands, they told the locals they were uber evil rapist/murderers. So a bunch more people killed themselves.
Would you rather more suffer instead of some suffer? There was no way that WW2 was going to end without sacrificing some heads. But it doesn't fucking matter on a music video.
Nuclear weapons shold forbide or destroy.. they are just destroying earth.. no wonder that ''End of the world'' is comeing soon.. and besides.. Nukeing is littlebit overdoet for army of tanks and footsoldiers..
@MrGorelikov Because they can. A weapon you only have to use once, after that the only enemies that dare attack are those that are too insignificant to be attacked with tactical nuclear warheads.
@goliathlup1 "The supreme excellence is not victory in battle; it consists in defeating your enemies without even fighting them." Sun Tzu, The Art of War
@ValtexProductions yah right, why wont anyone attack Norway, where i live? on thing is because USA is the big black wolf who attack anyone who declares war upon someone else, another thing is because we have the best defence at sea, the best footsoldiers in the world and.... FOCK NUCLEAR BOMBS!!!!
@MrGorelikov their fucking pussies. "oh my god! im tierd of war, ill bring up my big modafucking bomb!" did they actually believe that Japan would invade them? and thats why the bombed INNOCENT peoples? my gosh, just bomb the Japans presidents place, where he lived.
@SuperTigerNo1 haha ha ha hah, that's pretty sad, that you think a country that is Much more Stronger then your own are a bunch of jokers, if you mean like. we don't know what were doing,
the U.S. dropped it cause we care about our People unlike Soviets and Nazi's did,
we know and knew Japan wasn't worth the U.S. Lives we would have lost
@farcry2outlaw rofl... much stronger??? you cant fight in afghanistan ... you lost against n.vietnam ..... you ended up in a stalemate with n.korea... and if you are really that strong you cant utilize your strength... btw if we are that weak , why did it take most of the world to defeat us half a century ago?
@SuperTigerNo1 Will it take half of the world telling you you are a fucked-up nazi moron kid today to make you realize you are a fucking nationalist moron ? Because if it is so let me be the first to tell you.
@MrGorelikov To save the lives of our soldiers. If we invaded the mainland it was an expected death toll in the millions for the U.S. It was also excpected the 75% of the japanese population would die before surrendering to us. So in the end we not only saved the lives of our own, but japanese lives too. Not to mention after the war we rebuilt all their citys and gave them food.
@FordMan055 these arguments exists cuz we Europeans and peeps of Asia dont like USA :P
your ideals are screwed up and will be the end of us. Tho US people dont seem to realize they aswell are being used by their government run by power insane capitalists and bankers.
The American dream is one where the few are insanely rich, the government is greedy and the people is obese and prostitutes.
@ArantirSH Yes we are screwed up and yes, few hold all our money and yes to even our people are ignorant. But thats not all of us. And even if our government isnt perfect, name one that is. The point is, the atomic bomb saved millions of Americans and most people will agree that it saved Japanese in the long run. Not to mention after we won we rebuilt everything. The europian ways is to leave people screwed over aftarwards. That dident work out two well for Germany. Adolf Hitler. WWII.
@FordMan055 the europeian way was a totally rebuilded continent in about 5 years.we only left germany in ruins so they will atlast understand what total anihilation means.you didnt rebuild anything.the point of you apologizing to japan and sending aid to germany is just a sign of machiavelli like diplomacy and no good will.your nation is adpet at being able to sacrifice others and theirs to complete their goals.you preety much showed it when you defeated yugoslawia and the sssr.you retribution
@FordMan055 towards socialism and commusinm ruined atleast 24 million lives in the balkans due to your espionage and ,,democracy,,you bancrupted the newly formed countries after sssr fell.you with the chinese are the reason for 70 percent of damage dome to the ozone layer.you guys attacked middle east due to their millitary resources.you allowed the jews to do genocides on the palestinians.americans are a scourge.perfect goverments do exist:norway,sweden, and the former country of yugoslavia.
@allamari45 Your british? Like you did with africans or indians or austailians the Americans and every one else you concoured on your way to an empirie.. Or if your french the vietnamise. Or even German. The Nazis. History is full of supirior forces taking over obsolete native people. If they really wanted it they woulda fought harder. LIke the vietnamise. Thoses little bastards did very good even though I hate to say it.
@FordMan055 and you mean how Americans did shit and lost horribly? then did a typical American thing and burnt the forests down in a tantrum cause you were loosing? and if you really want to talk about our British empire when we had it we conquered a lot of countries that were considered powerful on our way to the top i will grant you we did exploit a lot of defenseless people but look at the size of us in proportion to other countries that have empires then look at the size of the empire we had
@Apockelipse I dont remember arguing with you or why I was. But Ill have a go at it. But Ill have a go at it. All we did is boot out the natives. BUt they dident organize or do much to stop us so that their problem. Besides, there desendants live on tax free land with like no laws and make tons of money off casinos. So its a win win. You kicked around the natives tons before we were our own country. The British have done much worse things than we ever did. If you try and deny it, the crusades.
ACTA and SOPA PREPARE FOR NUCLEAR ATTACK !!!!! >:D
Yoshi13370 5 days ago
@Yoshi13370 now there's open *fuck you politicians ......... b
liamnaruto 4 days ago
am i the only one who feels sorry for japanese?
kfsryakunt09 1 week ago
prepare for nuclear attack :)
MrPomorac18 1 week ago
winners right the history
lylekush 2 weeks ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Sabaton
THIS MAKES ME SICK, when whe talk about ww2 and and the war crimes, everyone pointing their fingers to germans, but when we talk about the atomic bombing nobody says that man, thoose fucking bombs killed almost 200.000 human beeings including children..
germans killed jews=war crime
americans atombombed japan=heroic act
fucking scrums
89mrjohn 2 weeks ago 2
@89mrjohn But there is one thing you are forgetting. The Japanese were not going to give up. They would have kept sending troops to their death even though we have tried to get their surrender countless times. Even after the first Nuclear bombing the Japanese still didn't want to surrender and tried to fight back
Grahf05 2 weeks ago
@89mrjohn history shouldnt be written by the victor (agree)
kfsryakunt09 1 week ago
they talk only about the genocide of the jews,what about the millions that in this one?
Bigolddragon 1 month ago
@Bigolddragon What millions? Millions/=hundreds of thousands. Its still a massive amount of life that was lost, most of them non military, but not millions.
Fourhand1917 1 month ago
@Fourhand1917 well somewhere around 200.000 died and mostly civilians sorry if i typed millions even tough i was thinking about the those who did not died then but have been irradiated plus what about the flora and fauna?it was still a cruel act to do as vengence
Bigolddragon 1 month ago
@Bigolddragon if we where to go into Japan on X-Day there would have been Millions lost.
this ended the war quicker.
NxakoNecv 1 month ago
@NxakoNecv that's one way however they already had lost almost all the valuable land they conquered and therefore the petrol and metal needed for waging a war lost,maybe just a blockade around them was enough but what's done it's done.
Bigolddragon 1 month ago
Personally I prefer Threnody to the Victims of Hiroshima, but this is good too.
TheJunkieBox 1 month ago
the bombing's could have been worse though. they could have dropped obese men.
keebut 1 month ago
@keebut ROFL! Also, awesome song.
1334Jon 1 month ago
the atomic bomb is one of the most perverting ever build and enveloped things ever, droping it on Japan has been on of the biggest massmurder in addition to Hitler, its one of the frightense thing on earth and nearly any powerfull state on this earth got one, even instable once!^^ its kind of ironic if we fell secure
OrillionNeckbreaker 1 month ago
Why Usa dropped those bombs, were not based on anything with Japan, Hitler's Germany had fell and the Soviet Union turned their front againt Japan. If Usa would have fought "normal"
Then the soviet union would have got so much more land in asia, and Usa didnt want the ussr to be more powerful then they were.
eldiraie 1 month ago
There was no real hope of Japan surrendering prior to the atomic bomb. The Japanese people were activly preparing to fight to the death - they have museums in Japan about this. Atleast one has a ceramic grenade shaped like a doll intended for children suicide attackers. If the bombs weren't dropped, there would have been an invasion, and in addition to millions of American casualties, it would have essentially ended in the near genocide of the Japanese people.
WulfgarOpenthroat 2 months ago
@Zakath89 Keep one thing in mind though - America dropped the first bomb and Japan didn't relent in their stance. Even if there was a negotiation being discussed (which I sincerely doubt given the stern culture of Japan's military forces), they refuted the first bomb being dropped and only relented after the second one was detonated. I'm not saying anyone deserves that horror - but they also didn't respond properly if you're suggesting they were considering surrendering in the first place.
lehah 2 months ago
this and panzerkampf are my favs but they all are amazing songs!
robertwalters 2 months ago
@Zakath89 Ya, there were plenty of negotiations, we gave them reasonable terms for surrender. We warned the Japanese government about the bombs over and over again. But NO! Emperor Hirohito wouldn't listen!
I've sent you a comment with additional information on your channel, it would behoove you to look into the website links.
aabceacba 2 months ago
*clap* *clap* einstein !
Cortake 2 months ago
Irony - to listen to this in Hiroshima
95DANGER 2 months ago 6
Shut the fuck up and enjoy the damn music!!!
MaximumFear666 3 months ago in playlist Liked 3
the name of the atomic bom is fatman al little boy no other name :)
jhonjairo79 3 months ago in playlist sabaton
tsar bomb,57 million tones of tnt ,the biggest bomb
Damili1127 3 months ago
PREPARE FOR NUCLEAR ATTACK!!!
vpap4ever 3 months ago 25
The only thing I think about when I hear this song: WTF BOOM
dpchiko17 3 months ago
does anyone else besides me marvel at a nuclear bomb and how a small tiny atom split can create something so powerful and unfriendly? amazing science is.
seanowbo 3 months ago 32
@seanowbo I think, that in 1945 was necessity drop 2 nuclear bombshalls. Cuz Japanese were fanatic and want fight to last man. So at least, I decided this bombs ''save'' a lot lives. My opinion of course :)
joser2805 3 months ago
@joser2805 yeah you're absolutely right. greetings friend, i am hungarian! :D born in US tho. i wanna go live in Hungary some day.
seanowbo 3 months ago
@seanowbo If you think that's crazy shit, look up antimatter warfare.
JammyD2579 3 months ago
@seanowbo destruction science is always the most intresting one :)
Graverobber94 3 months ago
@seanowbo A big bunch of small atoms, you mean. But yeah, fuck that shit.
markecccc889 2 months ago
@seanowbo
I agree ...
Amazing science for wrong cause
Azatis 1 month ago
@seanowbo it happens because atoms aren;t suppose to beseparated without utter mass destruction
SUWBSWIBE 1 month ago
@seanowbo Somethin so peaceful creating something so chaotic...sounds unnatural but it's science.
Forrestfire444 4 weeks ago
It's named FATMAN not FATBOY
TecnoScope351 4 months ago
k..k
sansiddhjain 4 months ago
k..k
sansiddhjain 4 months ago
@aabceacba the nuclear bombing was d vengeance of us for pearl harbour...der was no strategy involved..
sansiddhjain 4 months ago
@sansiddhjain We know it's for pearl harbor, he's just saying the casualties would be alot bigger if we didn't nuke them and make them surrender.
Edward27871 4 months ago
muy bueno
MrMatiasgodoy 4 months ago
btw enola is gay
SuperTigerNo1 4 months ago
We all love our own countries and that's the truth no one needs to fight over that. So no need to fight over what is done.
tinkercat95 5 months ago
@JapaneseNevski Cause your opion isn't totally biased or anything.
BillyBoomstick 5 months ago
Wow, some scary shit......
Great video and song by the way!!!
BillyBoomstick 5 months ago
There are some countries out there that could use some atomic bombs too.
We all know who they are.
CidGuerreiro1234 5 months ago
@JapaneseNevski I feel sorry for all the civilian too, but I wouldn't say that US couldn't win without it, after all, we won Iwo Jima, Guadal Canal, Guam, The Philippeans, Midway, Okinawa, and countless other battles without the atomic bomb. The atomic bomb was meant to end the war sooner. And if anything, it also showed the world not to do it again. Once again, my condolances to the victims. I'm just telling you, were not fascist cowards.
aabceacba 5 months ago
It's incredebly, the power of an atomatic explosion at that time has been compromised into a tennisball today, its surely more more effective, but for what?
OrillionNeckbreaker 5 months ago
The purpose of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his -George S Patton- That includes civilians When a country goes to war itw whole populace becomes a legitimate target in my mind as the civilians while not actively fighting are supporting their own countries war effort. The longer a war is allowed to continue the more will die on both sides this is inevitable. The bombs just expidited the wars end and thus saved millions of US AND Japanese lives.
korabota 5 months ago
fuck nato bastards !!! Nato fourth Reich
ibanez11098 5 months ago
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ibanez11098 5 months ago
66 Years ago. RIP to all victims
Psarantwnhs 5 months ago in playlist sabato 2
@Deathraged good to see at least 1 state has some sense
RuralTowner 5 months ago
This is a good song, but I can't but lol at the lyrics:
choooose not to belieeve...
ANOTHER NUK-LEAR ATTACK!!!!
Artsi21 5 months ago
66 years ago...
Shamrock534 5 months ago
the 31 who disliked got nuked :D
BMW450biker 5 months ago
Genocide...
AlwaysANigga 6 months ago
If you dont know what to post in here about WWII , go back to School and ask where you can get all the great big books about it ! and then maybe take a trip to Germeny and japan and all the other places and ask some Smart ppl, then you get to post smart things in here .... ! :)
No 1. really Won WWII, just alot of dead Heros on all Sides .. :)
iumelen 6 months ago
This song is riot!! HA!
vorpal72 6 months ago
2:44... Chuck Norris gets a pimpleXD
Bloodmane1987 6 months ago
They should play this song when the American team goes to play Japan tomorrow.
Shredderific 6 months ago
dudes america didnt invade germany cos there was no oil even i know this
keebut 6 months ago
@keebut what are you talking about...In WWII we did eventually invade Germany...We declared war on them. Oil wasnt on our minds back then.
historyanalyist1994 6 months ago
@historyanalyist1994 Yes a friend has been using my account sorry, and yeah the americans did invade germany but didn't get as far as the russians!
keebut 6 months ago
@keebut Actually they went exactly as far as the Russians, they stopped right before Berlin and let the Russians take it. General Eisenhower know how much losses it would take to capture the city and decided the "glory" of capturing Berlin isn't worth the lives of his soldiers.
But yeah the Russians where the ones that beat Germany IMO, they fought them for years, America joined the European war (Actual soldiers on the ground not air bombing & support) only on 6 June 1944 (D-Day)...
GreatThunder1 6 months ago
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@GreatThunder1 If you do not count Sicily, and Italy.
MrJohn2010 6 months ago
@keebut ahhhhh I see, I understand. Yes you are right abous Russia, Stalin asked the allies to halt 60 miles form the center of Berlin so that is Army could iteraly rape them into ground. On Hitlers 56th Birthday Gegori Zuchov sent over a million artillery shells into the heart of Berlin, the largest artillery strike of the century, though I could be wrong, Im not sure...
historyanalyist1994 6 months ago
@keebut your a fucking idiot, these people are making legitamite points while you come in and just make an ass of yourself. A point for the future dont start a sentence with "dudes" if youre trying to make a point. fucking hippie
Nutkicker54 6 months ago
@Nutkicker54 Yes if you read my other comment it was a friend on my Youtube profile commenting on things he doesn't even know about. Sorry for the inconvenience.
keebut 6 months ago
@keebut oh well then sorry for the hostility my friend.
Nutkicker54 6 months ago
omg you lot are so sad it's a bloody song not an online debate about who did what and why just chill out and enjoy the gd music
ThePosinsnake 6 months ago
If you guys are all anti-nuclear then why are you even on this video?
HarryTehHedgehog 6 months ago
In 1945 the US could have easily taken on the staggering USSR and established complete world domination, all thanks to the power of one weapon, but alas it didn't, a strong indicator of it's responsibility and will to coexist in the world. Imagine if Stalin was the sole owner of Nuclear weapons in 1945.
PGTBeuregard 6 months ago
@PGTBeuregard If your thinking strategy, the U.S should have not declared war on Germany first but rather Russia and fought them. After Crushing Russia, we should have turned our sights on Germany and taken them out. WIth Europe in our control Japan would have fallen next then the pacific is ours. With Stalin and Hitler gone the world is a btter place. The AK-47 is nver invented, The korean war never happens, Vietnam never happens and the Gulf Wars never Happen. No 9/11. Sorry for the spelling
historyanalyist1994 6 months ago
The reason we dropped the bombs is because it would cost more lives to invade than use the bomb so it was the humanitarian choice
HarryTehHedgehog 6 months ago
@HarryTehHedgehog
lol and it was not possible to demonstrate the bomb on a non-human target?? you make me lough so hard, hiroshima and nagasaki are US testing facilities...
Gorwo 6 months ago in playlist sabaton
@Gorwo We did drop it on a non human target, ever heard of the Trinity testing grounds in White sands NM? that's where we tested all of our nukes.
oh, and you spelled "laugh" wrong
HarryTehHedgehog 6 months ago
@HarryTehHedgehog lol you realy dont know what you are talking about. "trinity" was the code name for the EXPLOSION, not the testing ground... and it was SECRET. how could the jap. fear/know about it? the US could just call Hirohito and tell him: "hey pal, look what we are able to do" and detonate 1 or 2 bombs in the desert or under water. but why miss such a great opportiunity for long-term study on real targets, right? so many nations have nukes, but only 1 used it EVER against humans...
Gorwo 6 months ago in playlist sabaton
@Gorwo Do u really think they would surrender if we has nuked a random island, They did not surrender after the 1st bomb was dropped meaning it took 2 before they gave up, a non human target=nothing.
leonia97 5 months ago
u.s.a. sucks they always did they always will.....cowardly gay idiots only god for genocide and destroying cultures........as a matter of fact all current u.s. leaders should be burned alive....
ZoopaFenshonMan 6 months ago
We should keep some. You never know when E.T invades planet earth.
m14g 7 months ago
the point of the bombs was to make them surrender before even MORE people died (at the cost of thousands of civillians, yes),----think about it, if the bombs werent used, we'd have to invade Japan head on, resulting in even more deaths (ON BOTH SIDES!)
next time THINK before you post!
aabceacba 7 months ago 35
@aabceacba So that the enemy does something bad means you're allowed to do it as well? They could have targeted military bases or just open ground. What happened at Hiroshima and Nagasaki is in no way better than than what hitler or stalin did, and every man responsible should never walk amongst decent men.
ADRockstroh 6 months ago
@ADRockstroh If they had targeted open ground that would mean nothing,A military target (Which hiroshima was a military target) like a base would not have resulted in surrender unless u attacked many more then 2.
leonia97 5 months ago
@aabceacba Hey, for once someone who knows before they post.
BionicleKid97 6 months ago
@aabceacba I did a report on that very argument in 8th grade and thats what i said in it lol
peetree96 5 months ago
@aabceacba Very true...millions on both sides would have needlessly died to 'save face'. Recently read a very interesting book about the Jap kamikazes called "The Sacrificial Lambs" scary shit...(includes the jap battle plan if the bombs had not been dropped)
VonDagger 5 months ago
@aabceacba actually you are wrong. US had to finish the war, and they needed to show their strenght. Nukes where made to get sure if Nazis start throwing them on USA, US army can respond them. They had to finish war in Japan, becouse it was nearly impossible to take over Japan in a invasion, becouse Japs would never surrender. They needed to show thei superior strenght to the world and Soviet Union. Nuclear Weapon made clear that if someone strike, there is no world anymore, so there was no WW3
OrthodoxySoldier 5 months ago
@OrthodoxySoldier We're both right, they were meant to end the war sooner and show our strength, but it was also to save Allied soldiers from getting killed (at the time, we didn't care about the J soldiers, (I'm sure you know all in's and out's with that)).
My point was,....two cities are wiped out....but four Islands spared from head-on invasion.
Good point, and thank you for bringing that up.
aabceacba 5 months ago
@aabceacba you forget to mention the deaths that came after these 2 bombs cause of radiation after effects. Even if the atomic bombs was the only solution, i think only one was enough... but no... they wanted more... to totally perish japan... their competitors in economy.
K0UK0U 4 months ago
@K0UK0U True, there were many deaths after the blasts, and one would have been enough. However, the reason the second bomb was dropped was because Washington didn't get a response from Japan. After waiting 3 days, they US government misinterpreted the delayed response as defiance, so proceeded with bombing Nagasaki. Try not to get me wrong, I don't hate Japan (just their generals in WW2). I'm just pointing out the other side of the story. But yes, I hear you.
aabceacba 4 months ago
@aabceacba I didnt know that about response. but what if they didnt get response after the second bomb either. would they launch third bomb ? :D
K0UK0U 4 months ago
@K0UK0U I'm not sure but I don't think they had any more bombs than those two:D
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@finskakiller that was not my point but anyway.
K0UK0U 4 months ago
@aabceacba yeah yeah usual excuse , btw why did thee west embargoed japan to stop its industrialisation first of all? what was the real reason west especially USA care about china ? because the ydidnt want japan getting more power , because they though japan was inferior to them and that you white people were superior, because they wanted china for themselves as it had a lot of resources , btw even in the 50s the americans raped 1000s of north koreans....
SuperTigerNo1 4 months ago
@aabceacba btw how many american indians have you people killed , raped , kicked the mout opf their lands during the indian wars? how many vietnamese girls were raped during the vietnam war? huh the japanese were as civilized as they are you people , btw what does this word 'civilized" really mean? the only difference then was that the japans were absolutely unwesternized but that doesnt mean they were barbarians or something.
SuperTigerNo1 4 months ago
@SuperTigerNo1 Civilized means that you have a high degree of technology, power, but most important of all, a humanistic culture, while Japan had the first 2, they didn't have a culture that put human life above all ... And yes the Europeans killed many natives but that's so long time by that we can barely compare... And about 'Nam, while their where a few fuck ups on the american side it was nothing compared to the barbarism the Japanese showed during the War. Although now Japan is awesome :)
TheNinjazorz 4 months ago
@TheNinjazorz a few fuck ups in nam a few in iraq a few in n korea a few in afghanistan , a few in kosovo a few in ...... btw what were the british doing in india during ww2? how many islanders have you americans killed , raped ect in ww2? what was eisenhower death camp? anyway are you saying that these people had humanistic cultures???????
SuperTigerNo1 4 months ago
@SuperTigerNo1 Compared to the brutality the Japans showed, yes. The Americans are a very civilized people.
TheNinjazorz 4 months ago
@TheNinjazorz very well stick to it barbarians.
SuperTigerNo1 4 months ago
@SuperTigerNo1 Well i will indeed stick to the most acknowledged hypothesis, good sire.
TheNinjazorz 4 months ago
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SuperTigerNo1 4 months ago
ok, most of you guys REALLY should do some research about WWII before you post your hate comments, think about it! THEY:*raped tens of thousands of chinese girls, daily *dissected thousands at Unite 731 (while they were still ALIVE!) *tortured many US and Philippinoes during the Bataan Death March *convinced thousands of islanders to commit suicide before the Americans came
THEY WERENT THE CIVILIZED PEOPLE, THEY ARE TODAY
aabceacba 7 months ago 46
@aabceacba - wanna say something like,they needed 2 A-bombs to push them to 20th century... i dont know i´m not interested in history so much ,i has only came on mind reading your post :) ...
powerofbass 6 months ago
@aabceacba i agree. If america would have American and her allies would have lost an estimated 250,000 men and the Japanese would have lost over 5 million soldiers and civilians. The Japanese trained the civilians in hand to hand combat so they would not surrender. The bomb, even though deadly and catostophic was the only way to win and end the war. Over 6 million on both sides could have died in a fullscale evasion of Japan.
(spelling fail... lol...sorry)
historyanalyist1994 6 months ago
@aabceacba can thank the curriculum today...History is now an elective in school...no longer mandatory....its a real shame
what you just pointed out was exactly one of those points covered when I was in school taking history too
RuralTowner 6 months ago
@aabceacba no their culture is simply westernased since then
mooses601 5 months ago
@aabceacba I am amazed how you can make such a statement, generalizing an entire country. You make it sound as though everyone in that City was not for the most part a gullible civilian going about their daily lifes contricted by it's Government desperately trying to orchestrate a winnable war, but everyone one of them had blood of innocent people on their hands one way or another. Both nuclear attacks had nothing noble, they are not to be accepted as a legitimate solution. They were---
TheGuyAlwaysOnTime 5 months ago
@aabceacba used as a means of breaking the will of any resistance. Not to impair defense or further aggression, afterall the predominant target was the civil population, not any specific military infrastructur.
And the American Government was not willing to muster the ressources needed to invade Japan, this has nothing to do with saving millions of Americans or Japanese by averting an invasion but with efficiency.
Primary concern was never the population on either side, but the ressources---
TheGuyAlwaysOnTime 5 months ago
@aabceacba which would have been need to achieve their goal, surrender. Now to I'm making myself guilty of misrepresenting the Issue. I'm not trying to say I would have known of a better solution to Americas problem, namely ending the war, what I am however having trouble with is your statement concerning the decency of the Japanese people at that time. It is preposterous to claim everyone in those city's deserved to be vaporized into dust---
TheGuyAlwaysOnTime 5 months ago
@aabceacba and is not legitimate to try to lessen the disgusting mass murders on those days, by demonizing the ones afflicted. I'm positive you make the distinction in my argument, not that I propose that I would have known a way to avert the nuclear attacks, but that I'm taking issue that you're trying to argue that the people that were killed deserved it.
TheGuyAlwaysOnTime 5 months ago
@TheGuyAlwaysOnTime I wasnt saying the J civilians deserved it, I was pointing out that it was either an ENTIRE COUNTRY, or two cities....u do know that the Japanese soldiers would go on suicide mission instead of surrnder, and they were starting to arm civilian with spears, knives, and what not...a lot more wouldve died throughout J if we. When I said "they", I was referring to the J army and all the crap they did to everyone else. As for civilians, I didnt say THEY deserved it......
aabceacba 5 months ago
@TheGuyAlwaysOnTime However, I cannot emphasiz enough that I DO undrstand ur argument. I was intending that comment for all those guys saying stuff like "they did it bc they knew they couldnt win wthout the bombs. ** the US!". I wanted to point out what stuff the J army did. As for the civilians, THEY didnt deserve to die, but a lot more wouldv if we invaded head on. Try not to get me wrong, I dont hate Japanese ppl at all, I simply wanted to point out that it either ALL OF JAPAN or two cities.
aabceacba 5 months ago
@aabceacba the japanese were civilized even then, WAR JUST MAKES MOSTERS OF ALL MEN.
Dunkopf 5 months ago
@Dunkopf I was referring to the soldiers and what they would do. Try not to get me wrong, I don't hate Japan, I just hate what was done.
aabceacba 5 months ago
@aabceacba Dont forget about spreading the black plague on lice and dropping it over cities filled with civilians.
zurrett 4 months ago
@zurrett True, I heard they also used mustard gas during their conquest of Asia, it was against the Chinese.
aabceacba 4 months ago
@aabceacba they aren't civilized today too
diabolicus999 4 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Sabaton
@aabceacba Civilized??? really......yea right,
Partyffs 3 months ago
@Partyffs I said they weren't civilized back then, weren't meant "were not".
aabceacba 3 months ago
@aabceacba ever heard of propaganda boy ? each nation teaches WW2 from point that's more profitable for there interests.
Netherw1nd 3 months ago
@Netherw1nd Good point, everyone does so that, but all of what I said is true. China agrees with it, England agrees with it, France agrees with it, etc. The only country that denies it is Japan.
The bombs were meant to end the war quickly. I understand it wasn't the most honorable thing to do, but it was either that or destruction all over Japan.
2 cities ----- or an entire nation. Which would be worse?
aabceacba 3 months ago
@aabceacba Probably negotiations, ofc what is that, when we have mass destruction weapons to kill inocent people, families and brave soldiers in a second, then to justify the actions to world, since we are usa, we can do whatever we want, we are the best in the world.
Netherw1nd 3 months ago
@Netherw1nd I'm not trying to justify anything. I'm just saying the other side of the story.
aabceacba 3 months ago
What took place in Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a HOLOCAUST. It was a crime against humanity.
ZLUGGO 7 months ago
Fun fact, did you know that before they detonated the first atomic bomb, the scientists were worried that detonating it would possibly ignite the atmosphere of the earth and turn it into a sun, yet they did it anyway, in the interest of science. lol.
Mortimus180 7 months ago
@Mortimus180 Sounds similar to the recent situation at CERN.
MrJohn2010 6 months ago
You all look at this with such a short sided view. The Enola gay and her crew are heros. Saved the lives of millions of American and Japaese.
I know Im gonna take flak from this but before you submit your hate remember pearl harbor. Also what the japanese did to the chinese in the early war. How they raped and killed everyone for fun and their leadership dident even try to stop it.
FordMan055 7 months ago 2
@FordMan055 Encouraged it in many cases. Then when america was taking back the islands, they told the locals they were uber evil rapist/murderers. So a bunch more people killed themselves.
InquisitorxSmith 7 months ago
@FordMan055 you sure have a point there, but bottom line, WAR IS A HORRIBLE AND DISGUSTING.
lio543 7 months ago
lol idiots saying enola "gay" what a douchefags.
RapidFire813 7 months ago
Would you rather more suffer instead of some suffer? There was no way that WW2 was going to end without sacrificing some heads. But it doesn't fucking matter on a music video.
Protantical 7 months ago
Enola Homosexual
BiotoX3155 7 months ago
SHUT UP AND ENJOY THE MUSIC!
thespede1 7 months ago
good job Truman.
aloXXXD123 7 months ago
when USA made nuclear weapon, there were one russian spy, who gave the information to russia.
1gbcpu 7 months ago
its litle big boy, and fat man ;)
andreaslianster 7 months ago
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good song!!!!
jeppson300 7 months ago
100 000 dead people in 2 days... good job USA! ....
socijalista 7 months ago
@socijalista Better than over 1million over years.
BrutusDecimus 7 months ago
@socijalista at the most, 246000 over 3 days. get your facts right.
andreaslianster 7 months ago
Nuclear weapons shold forbide or destroy.. they are just destroying earth.. no wonder that ''End of the world'' is comeing soon.. and besides.. Nukeing is littlebit overdoet for army of tanks and footsoldiers..
FINdiablo7 7 months ago
@FINdiablo7 USA actually had foot troops IN Japan and just out sea in transport ships.
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TheDerpaderp 7 months ago
Fucking USA...Why they do it?!
MrGorelikov 8 months ago 24
@MrGorelikov Because they can. A weapon you only have to use once, after that the only enemies that dare attack are those that are too insignificant to be attacked with tactical nuclear warheads.
goliathlup1 7 months ago
@goliathlup1 "The supreme excellence is not victory in battle; it consists in defeating your enemies without even fighting them." Sun Tzu, The Art of War
andreaslianster 7 months ago
@MrGorelikov - protection you dumbass. if we didnt create our own nukes then we would be vulnerable to nuclear attacks from other countries
ValtexProductions 7 months ago
@ValtexProductions yah right, why wont anyone attack Norway, where i live? on thing is because USA is the big black wolf who attack anyone who declares war upon someone else, another thing is because we have the best defence at sea, the best footsoldiers in the world and.... FOCK NUCLEAR BOMBS!!!!
andreaslianster 7 months ago
@MrGorelikov it was funny
peetree96 7 months ago
@MrGorelikov their fucking pussies. "oh my god! im tierd of war, ill bring up my big modafucking bomb!" did they actually believe that Japan would invade them? and thats why the bombed INNOCENT peoples? my gosh, just bomb the Japans presidents place, where he lived.
andreaslianster 7 months ago
@MrGorelikov because otherwise japan would not have surrendered
SleepEatAirsoft 7 months ago in playlist a playlist of music
@MrGorelikov USA = bunch of jokers
SuperTigerNo1 7 months ago
@SuperTigerNo1 haha ha ha hah, that's pretty sad, that you think a country that is Much more Stronger then your own are a bunch of jokers, if you mean like. we don't know what were doing,
the U.S. dropped it cause we care about our People unlike Soviets and Nazi's did,
we know and knew Japan wasn't worth the U.S. Lives we would have lost
farcry2outlaw 7 months ago
@farcry2outlaw rofl... much stronger??? you cant fight in afghanistan ... you lost against n.vietnam ..... you ended up in a stalemate with n.korea... and if you are really that strong you cant utilize your strength... btw if we are that weak , why did it take most of the world to defeat us half a century ago?
SuperTigerNo1 7 months ago
@SuperTigerNo1 Will it take half of the world telling you you are a fucked-up nazi moron kid today to make you realize you are a fucking nationalist moron ? Because if it is so let me be the first to tell you.
Morclaw 7 months ago
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SuperTigerNo1 7 months ago
@Morclaw a jew nazi? hm... are you retarded?
SuperTigerNo1 7 months ago
@farcry2outlaw sorry I have something to add on the first comment USA = bunch of jokers and cowards.
SuperTigerNo1 7 months ago
@farcry2outlaw nazi's only killed jew germans anyway , and soviets only killed central asian , baltic , belorussian and ukrainian people .
SuperTigerNo1 7 months ago
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@SuperTigerNo1 I mean in their own countries...
SuperTigerNo1 7 months ago
@MrGorelikov To save the lives of our soldiers. If we invaded the mainland it was an expected death toll in the millions for the U.S. It was also excpected the 75% of the japanese population would die before surrendering to us. So in the end we not only saved the lives of our own, but japanese lives too. Not to mention after the war we rebuilt all their citys and gave them food.
FordMan055 7 months ago
@FordMan055 these arguments exists cuz we Europeans and peeps of Asia dont like USA :P
your ideals are screwed up and will be the end of us. Tho US people dont seem to realize they aswell are being used by their government run by power insane capitalists and bankers.
The American dream is one where the few are insanely rich, the government is greedy and the people is obese and prostitutes.
ArantirSH 7 months ago
@ArantirSH Yes we are screwed up and yes, few hold all our money and yes to even our people are ignorant. But thats not all of us. And even if our government isnt perfect, name one that is. The point is, the atomic bomb saved millions of Americans and most people will agree that it saved Japanese in the long run. Not to mention after we won we rebuilt everything. The europian ways is to leave people screwed over aftarwards. That dident work out two well for Germany. Adolf Hitler. WWII.
FordMan055 7 months ago
@FordMan055 the europeian way was a totally rebuilded continent in about 5 years.we only left germany in ruins so they will atlast understand what total anihilation means.you didnt rebuild anything.the point of you apologizing to japan and sending aid to germany is just a sign of machiavelli like diplomacy and no good will.your nation is adpet at being able to sacrifice others and theirs to complete their goals.you preety much showed it when you defeated yugoslawia and the sssr.you retribution
allamari45 7 months ago
@FordMan055 towards socialism and commusinm ruined atleast 24 million lives in the balkans due to your espionage and ,,democracy,,you bancrupted the newly formed countries after sssr fell.you with the chinese are the reason for 70 percent of damage dome to the ozone layer.you guys attacked middle east due to their millitary resources.you allowed the jews to do genocides on the palestinians.americans are a scourge.perfect goverments do exist:norway,sweden, and the former country of yugoslavia.
allamari45 7 months ago
@FordMan055 oh and btw,you have almost genetically removed the native americans from their soil.youre monsters.
allamari45 7 months ago
@allamari45 Your british? Like you did with africans or indians or austailians the Americans and every one else you concoured on your way to an empirie.. Or if your french the vietnamise. Or even German. The Nazis. History is full of supirior forces taking over obsolete native people. If they really wanted it they woulda fought harder. LIke the vietnamise. Thoses little bastards did very good even though I hate to say it.
FordMan055 7 months ago
@FordMan055 and you mean how Americans did shit and lost horribly? then did a typical American thing and burnt the forests down in a tantrum cause you were loosing? and if you really want to talk about our British empire when we had it we conquered a lot of countries that were considered powerful on our way to the top i will grant you we did exploit a lot of defenseless people but look at the size of us in proportion to other countries that have empires then look at the size of the empire we had
Apockelipse 7 months ago
the first rant is referring to Vietnam
Apockelipse 7 months ago
@Apockelipse I dont remember arguing with you or why I was. But Ill have a go at it. But Ill have a go at it. All we did is boot out the natives. BUt they dident organize or do much to stop us so that their problem. Besides, there desendants live on tax free land with like no laws and make tons of money off casinos. So its a win win. You kicked around the natives tons before we were our own country. The British have done much worse things than we ever did. If you try and deny it, the crusades.
FordMan055 7 months ago