2002 Hyundai Santa Fe timing belt failure from hell.

[smallville0forever]

they forgot to take the car with them .

[UchihaSurvivor360]

I have an 06 Hyundai Tucson. Seeing this scared me. I was told that it has a timing belt. I had no idea about a cam balance belt.

[briansmobile1]

@UchihaSurvivor360 2006 is a better design. Especially the 6 cylinder.

[jos19885]

YEA I HAVE AN 03!!!

[MrCivichatchback]

2.4 is a hard to find engine,

[hllywd964]

Have you ever worked on a Santa Fe with the 3.5 liter motor?...I hear that changing the timing belt on that engine is a bear, dealing with the quad cam!

[Recycled]

Interference engines should have chains! Dumb design.

[highdeserthater]

dang.

[hp11208]

did they actually fix it,this suppose to be in the junk yard lol.

[briansmobile1]

@hp11208 Yep. It runs like a champ to this day. They pound the miles down on that little SUV too. They live up on the mountain east of here.

[jboydmv90]

How many miles can you go on a subaru 2.5 for a timing belt? I was told 100k

[briansmobile1]

@jboydmv90 90K is the most I will do on a dual over head cam.

[MeowJW]

That is the reason why they got rid of the 4 cyl option and just sold the 2.7 and the 3.5s..

[constantlydoped]

That was a cheeky fart you let rip at 0:55.

[briansmobile1]

@constantlydoped LOL! It totally sounds like a fart. Those are my North Face Chillkat boots that split open on the right boot. You'll hear that every time I crouch down. lol You're pretty sharp!

[zaidusa]

I got the same problem I'm done with everything now working on the timing, what's that plate for ? how do you know its bad or not ? what is it called ?

[briansmobile1]

@zaidusa The plate has many names. Exciter ring, timing plate, signal plate, resonance plate.

[zaidusa]

@briansmobile1 where did you get the plate from ?? I tried to look it up online and found nothing. Is it a dealer item ??

[briansmobile1]

@zaidusa I got it from the dealership with the VIN number



[MrJadey1369]

i found your video while trying to find some info on these CPS. this is my second time replacing it. but after replacing the CPS and the balance shaft belt, and fixing the timing, i still does not run. it is still throwing the P0335 code being CPS circuit failure A. Should that angle sensor, (crank plate or w.e you wanna call it) be replaced as well it does not seem bent or damaged in any way. It also does not seem like the valves are bent.

[briansmobile1]

@MrJadey1369 It could be the wiring or a bad cam sensor. If you don't sqish the old oil out of the lifters they won't compress and you'll have a no start problem. (bad compression)

[MrJadey1369]

@briansmobile1 i think that was a miscommunication error on my part, when i said CPS i mean the crankshaft position sensor. if the cam sensor failed it would throw me a new code. I am not getting any spark or fuel, the fuel pump isnt running either. the signal wire fluxuates like it should as the disc passes through the sensor. power goes to the fuel pump relay but no farther, fuel pump fuses and relay are fine.

[briansmobile1]

@MrJadey1369 Sometimes the computer relies more on one sensor or the other. So even though you have a code for the CPS (crank) it could be a bad cam signal. I'd back probe the other (cam) and see if it's jacked up.

[MrJadey1369]

@briansmobile1 its taken some time to get this figured out but apparently the new aftermarket sensor i bought stopped getting signals which was probably why I could only get it to start and run 3 times before it threw the code again and stopped it from running. So I went and bought a part from Hyundai and its working perfectly. I also bought a new plate for the sensor since mine was bent. This plate was not stamped properly so it was also bent and would rub against the sensor so viewers beware!

[briansmobile1]

@MrJadey1369 It's generally best to replace the plate or exciter ring. They are usually responsible for the sensor failing to begin with.

[markdel16]

Thanks for this. The belt on my '02 just went today. Don't know the extent of damage yet, but I was doing like 40MPH when it went, so I assume I'll end up with the same result. It's a 6 too, so it's going to be a lot more costly and probably parted out.

[briansmobile1]

@markdel16 Sometimes a 6 cyl fairs better than this one. I'd throw a belt on it and do a compression test.

[frankie2234]

have a 2007 camry with 82,000 highway miles.  Should i change out timing belt soon, and do you recommend any other type maintenance while they are in there????? Thanks

[briansmobile1]

@frankie2234 I'd do it at 90K miles if it has a belt. Some of the new ones that are four cylinders have a chain that doesn't need to be changed at all. You can tell by if the cover is metal or plastic. Plastic means a belt.

[cupcake1556]

Thank you

[briansmobile1]

@cupcake1556 You're welcome. Thanks for watching/posting.

[cupcake1556]

If there is a bumper to bumper warranty for 5 years or 60K is a broken timing belt covered? Next Is the timing belt covered under the 100K drive train warranty? Please post a direct reply to me.

[briansmobile1]

@cupcake1556 I don't know. You'd have to ask Hyundai. This one was 8yrs old and had 72K miles on it and wasn't covered.

[pivotboy63]

@cupcake1556 timing belt is NOT covered under 100k warranty. timing belt is considered scheduled maintiance and if it fails after 60k (which is reccomended when you change it) if you didnt replace it, its considered user error and is not covered.

[cupcake1556]

@pivotboy63 thanks for the info

[Roby00976]

He even made a sad face =( with the pieces of broken belt. haha...

[1yoyo105]

i have the same vehicle and it lasted 110,000 miles. when i replaced it it was on the bare string inside the timing belt. boy am i lucky. :)

[briansmobile1]

@1yoyo105 wow!

[brizzlefizzle]

I see the problem.....You drive a hyundai.

[briansmobile1]

@brizzlefizzle The engine is half Mitsubishi half Hyundai- that's the customers car. Audi's are even worse!

[briansmobile1]

@crombieposterboy It's just the 02 and 03 4 cyl Santa Fe's. I feel like Dr. Hibert from the Simpson's cartoon. It's so sad you just have to laugh to cope. I did this for a customer- I am a professional. It was $2500. It would have been double that if I did it at the dealership.

[briansmobile1]

@crombieposterboy This belt had 40K on it. Hyundai in this example used a Mitsubishi head that is hard on the belt set up. I'd recommend 40K on this make and model. And 50-60K on Audi TT's. The book says 90K and they break at 65K or so.

[brianthelion]

Valves not cables damn autocorrect

[briansmobile1]

@brianthelion ha ha! Love the user name too.

[brianthelion]

Last Hyundai I had with a popped belt I would just put a motor in when those cables hit the pistons it can do slight damage to the pistons / rods had 2 come back that I did head jobs on ended doing a motor anyway

[ricklicks42]

Very well made video! Hat's off to ya! Problem is......... after all that work..... after all those parts..... after all the cleaning.... shopping for parts...... reading manuals.... and putting all your mechanical skills to the test...... Ya Still Got A Hyundai!!!!!!!!! GO TOYOTA!

[briansmobile1]

@ricklicks42 I don't, and fortunately I got paid by the owner to fix their Hyundai. WIN!

[1toThe0power]

Good vid. Great presentation, especially for those who are not aware about how much is at stake if that belt is not replaced before it's too late.

[briansmobile1]

@1toThe0power I've failed to sell the t-belt job more times than I'm comfortable with- I now show this video or email it- it conveys the financial benefit of doing this maintenance. I just feel horrible when my customers get this kind of bill when it could have been so much less the day before this happened.

[pivotboy63]

my dad needs to do the timing belt on his 05 elantra 2.0 very soon. hes pushing 81k miles and he puts about 300 miles a week on the car. looked up the parts for his engine, 214 bucks and some change for a set of valves, 59 for a timing belt. 800 for head. course youd really only need to replace the head if a valve snaps off and puts a big dent in it

[briansmobile1]

@pivotboy63 Exciting isn't it?

[pivotboy63]

@briansmobile1 very haha

[briansmobile1]

@slayerman95 Oooooh! SAD!

[omj170]

Lol beware H

[PUREAAMERICAN]

Usually the balance shaft belt breaks the half of the U off of the crank sensor then the pieces throw, strip or break the timing belt. I am surprised that your crank sensor looks cosmetically undamaged.

[gazoomebay]

I'm just replacing mine a new or used head.

Any advice on isetting the timing belt on the cams? The factory timing marks make it look like you turn each cam outward a couple teeth from their top at rest position...

[briansmobile1]

@gazoomebay Get it as close to the marks as possible. Use the clips - I have a whole video on this subject. I also have an hour or so of misc. other info. IMPORTANT be sure to compress all the oil out of your lifters or else they won't compress and you won't have any compression and it won't run. That's bad.

[alienc3]

This should be sent to anyone that thinks changing the timing belt is a waste of money!

[briansmobile1]

@alienc3 pass it on!

[juiced71]

Dude that sux! i would have drivin that baby off a cliff hahaaa

[briansmobile1]

@juiced71 Ya, I suggested that to the owner- they opted to fix it.

[juiced71]

that would be my luck! lol

[briansmobile1]

The sad thing is that I had to do the head twice due to siezed lifters that went undiagnosed. You have to compress all 16 lifters in a vice by hand to get them to work again.

[CravinMorehead420]

I can sum this video up in one word... wow