This is a good prelude film to Zapruder. See the little girl at bottom of screen running, she runs around the corner out of the shadows into the light. She is seen in Zapruder running then stop abruptly and look quickly to here right as first shots are fired. At very end of this film the assassination is taking place.
@PPPiggy77 yes, true, amazing how the people haven't reacted to the shot ringing out..don't think second was fired at end of this... yes, very poor photography, most of the other video from that day is quite good..
You know, I don't know if any one else noticed but me. But if you read American history, all the other presidential assassinations and attempts, tended to be "up close and person" i.e. words the assassin tended to be close to the president/politician. Except this one. Always has been a mystery to me.
@JulieBrownsGuitar Well, we do have to keep in mind that this was 1963. Camera's and recorders were sorta crappy, especially in comparison to what we have today.
@gotch09 The real shame is that not one of these home movie cameras had sound. If they had, many questions about the shots would have been conclusively resolved from the beginning.
@Caeruleo 1963 cameras hand held cameras didn't have sound that I remember. And I agree, with the advancements since 1963, if they did have sound on them back then, maybe we could analyzed the acoustics and tried to figure out where the bullets came from. And then people wouldn't be having the arguments over where the bullets came from now.
@gotch09 Well, they almost certainly would have had mono soundtracks, so I don't know how helpful that would have been as far as locating the source of the shots. What it would have answered definitively though is how many shots were fired and the relative timing of the shots. There's been a lot of controversy over the relative timing alone.
I`m in this film. i`m standing fourth from the right on the stairs, wearing a red bow tie and white panama hat.
I saw Elsie Dorman coming out of the school book depository that day. At first i didnt`recognize her because she was wearing a mask and carrying her ``lucky`rifle. She used to take that with her everywhere. I waved, and yelled ``yoo hoo,, Elsie!`` But she didn`t hear me because she was wearing a set of rifle range ear protectors, and was concentrating on adjusting her rifle scope.
HEY IS THAT ME??? LOOK FOR A SMALL KID WEARING A HELMET AND CARRYING A RIFLE IN A BLANKET IF YOU CAN FIND THE PICTURE I'LL PAY YOU FIVE DOLLARS FOR IT.
@inspectorcritic One question: will you take my $4.39 in pennies. I'll have to break open my piggy bank. BTW, I think it was a transgender,cross dressing berserk squirrel that committed the crime in question. That's my story and I'm a stickin' to it.
If she is inside the TSBDB she would be a potential witness to things. Did she see anyone moving around? Did she hear anything? Or didn't hear shots? Did she proceed to the stairways? Did she proceed to the luchroom? And on and on......But I have never, ever heard of any testimony from her, nor any interview of her. She may hold information. Get it.
I think Arthur Bremer shot JFK. Then in 1972 he tried to kill George Wallace. An equal opportunity assassin. Of course, Hoover was behind both and the fake moon landing in 1969. Hoover was also behind the Princess Diana assassination even though he was dead for 25 years.
@hownos ya uh-huh make you kinda wonderful, but remember the warren commission says
"Oswald did it" and i believe my beloved government, it never lies ... OK that now that thur i m selling you a bridge i n Antarctica, lets see OK Waco, ruby ridge,Atomic bomb test on US military personall. Human experiments introduced to radiation.who were sterile after,
that the Tuskegee experiment, the Japanese American Internment citizens, hmm.. did oh ya 1914: The Ludlow Massacre. that did i forget
@hownos When she shot the film she was "afraid" to look through the viewfinder. What she was afraid of I do not know. She filmed this from the 4th floor of the TSBD which could have been the best view of the assassination. Look closely at the end of the film when her camera pans across the spectators at the corner of Elm and Houston. Some of them are looking at the TSBD at something up above from where Dorman was filming.
Whoever has uploaded this video is not very diligent in watching comments on it. How sickening these comments are. One would think they would be removed.
@MistaDollaD You can't even spell English! You fucking jerk off! What the fuck does "styll" mean?? You're an illiterate cunt!! LOL Illiterate in English and French!! LOL What does that mean? You fucked in the mouth, ear and eye inbred asshole!!
@MistaDoIIaD not as many as ur Mom has today, Poutine bitch. Also why do u want to be me so bad.... I guess thats what poutine bitches (like yourself) do for fun.
@MistaDollaD Anybody who spells the English word ''still" as "styll" has to be some sort of educationally subnormal fucking idiot. Where did you learn to spell English?? In the Ukraine or Poland?? LOL You certainly didn't learn to spell English like that in Canada! Are you even Canadian? You ignorant asshole and racist bastard! You're a fucking disgrace!!
@sbgaIt LOL you guys actually have nothing going on in ur life, so you come on youtube and try to pick fights with ppl. lol This is so funny .... Im sry to say this but get a life , its just a word. and even so why do u care so much. This is so sad ... But STYLL this was fun Poutine Bitches.
@MistaDollaD Get a life!! You sick sad cunt!! You fucking waster!!
Get a fucking job!! Asshole!! You're so fucking full of shit your shoes go squelch squelch when you walk! You fucking troll! You ugly degenerate racist cocksucker!
@sbgaIt ITs better to be a cunt then a Poutine Bitch , styll that fine with me. POUTINE SALOPE hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
@MistaDollaD You sound like a big fat lump of talking lard. Fucking Canadian slob!! Ah well. Throw another chicken on the barbecue and we'll forget all about it. You hungry cunt!! Mmmmmmmmmm Tastes good! Chickenhead!!
@sbgaIt Also im not Racist calling someone a poutine bitch isnt racist.... Asking someone if they're from the Ukraine or Poland Or anywhere for that matter, cuz they "can't spell" that's racist and stereotyping...
@k1IIer2one I heard hick French Canadian like yourself like to hit on they're brothers. ... wait i cant hear you over your spoons .... Go eat a fucking poutine ... Salope
@MistaDollaD I play the spoons on your fucking face, man! Ton père a fouré ta mère tellement fort, que tu suçais des queues déjà quand t'étais un foetus.
Gros crisse de plein de marde!! Va t'enculer! Va manger des bites!! Lopette!! Va te faire foutre!! You fucking mother fucker homo lumberjack!!
@MistaDollaD I'll shove my fucking spoons so far up your fucking ass your fucking teeth'll rattle to the tune of Oh fucking Canada. I demand an apology from you for your racist anti-Canadian French insults!! I want an apology NOW! And I mean right fucking MAINTENANT!! I shall report you to YouTube!!
ALL films of the assassination were scooped up immediately. When they were returned to the owners, the key moments were missing or (like this one) the framing suddenly focuses on something unrelated which was previously in the corner of the shot... Even the Zapruder film moves in so that Jack and Jackie are suddenly at THE VERY BOTTOM of the frame when he was killed, so that no gunshots to the limo (and there were some) can be spotted on screen. All films were altered, and many quite obviously.
eeeeehm....I don't know about one of the running people but the other one is clearly and simply the little girl in white and red that we can see at the beginning of the zapruder film (right behind the limo, on the sidewalk, she suddenly stops when the car is hidden by the stemmons road sign) !
No conspiracy stuff here....I might even guess the other dude running is her dad or something, they juste wanted to see the president as he was turing on Elm)!
10 COMMENTS the past week because 2 ladies were running? TEN?
Geez, I'm glad I don't the imagination of a conspiracy theorist where EVERYTHING turns into something sinister.
Take a look at the motorcade footage as it departs Love Field...THERE you had at least 50 people running! Why? As Bob Walker the announcer says they're excited "wanting to get a second look at the President & the First Lady"
HEY!!! Maybe they were running to Dealey Plaza to tell the shooters to call off the whole thing.
Who was that running alongside the wall at about 00:16? Looks pretty suspicious to me. Why would they be running? It couldn't be to get a better view of the president, since the view from there would've been just fine. And why would they be running into the shadows by the tree? Isn't that where the grassy knoll is?
@tourivers83 I'm looking at diagrams of the Grassy Knoll and Dealy Plaza to see where the Running Man might have been in relation to the Grassy Knoll. If you look closely, there is some kind of pool behind him, behind that wall. But I can't make out which direction he was running--North, South, East or West.
@rickyfan3956 I think that Running Man is running down Elm Street toward the Triple Underpass. Actually it seems to be two people running with the one in back wearing some sort of uniform. Weird.
@tourivers83 Now that you mention it, I think you're right. I'm picturing Dealy Plaza in my mind, and it seems accurate. The question remains, though, why are they running? I wonder if they started running before or after the first shot was fired? If they were running after the first shot was fired, that would be understandable, if they were just innocent bystanders.
@rickyfan3956 After looking at a colour version of this film I think that both people are in uniform and this is just a little before the first shot is fired. I wish I knew what they were running for.
@tourivers83 Yeah, I know. Me, too! That just drives me crazy, not knowing why they were running! Do you think they could possibly be Federal Agents or something? That might explain why they were running, but in that case, I'd think they'd be running behind the car, to protect the president and the first lady. Or maybe they were Federal Agents and they saw something suspicious on the Grassy Knoll or in that vicinity. Maybe that's why they were running. Where did you see a colorized version?
@rickyfan3956 It’s on youtube, just type in “JFK Assassination The complete Elsie Dorman film”. It just looks clearer to me then this one. I think one of the running people is a girl named Rosemary Willis. She was running with the Limo and can also be seen in the Z film.
@tourivers83 Yeah, come to think of it, they were probably running before the first shot was fired, as Ms Dorman probably would've swung the camera around wildly at the sound of a gunshot. More wildly than the film is already jumping around, anyway.
@tourivers83 If they were running before the first shot was fired, that would be questionable behavior, especially since they were, essentially, running toward the president. I don't know about back then, but today, if someone started running toward the president, the Secret Service would be all over them, tackling them to the ground and such!
Elsie Dorman had no experience with a movie camera but agreed to take the video on a relative's request. She was in fact inside the depository bldg about 6 windows over from Oswald. She felt the eyepiece would obstruct her clear sight of Kennedy so they took the video without looking through the viewfinder & blindly aimed the camera toward where she waslooking, hence the jumpy film.
It does seem somewhat jerky, and out of focus. Why bother to film something so badly. The remark below about the Parkinson's is awful, but funny, and that's what it looks like, I'm afraid.
There is a problem with the color photos of the limo in the Washington DC garage. The rear seat shows a RED blood smear.
That is a huge oxidation problem.
In this universe, over the time from the Elm St conspiracy murder to the garage pictures, the limo blood can not still be RED. But it is. A RED LIE is smeared over previous dried DARK blood stains on the seat.
There were no dark seat stains before Dallas. Most blood was wiped off in Dallas.
@usefulstuf i pulled the trunk mat out of a car that had a almost dead guy's body transported to the hole he was put in. we didn't know it at the time and the owner said it was brown spilled paint .Only after being interviewed by detectives did I realize what the brown spilled paint was. It was the victims blood.Can't give details here but weirdly the murderer was a beautiful girl and the victim was an old rich man. And the bullet didn't kill him so she just buried him alive.
This Dorman missed out on the home movie scoop of the millenium by miscuing and misdirecting his filming. He's caught some sundry, scattered images, but missed anything directly to do with the assassination. Unless, everyone there that day is a friggin' suspect, of course.
the one thing that struck me by being an armchair detective was the fact that so many assasins were in deally plasa that day,its pure speculation but i feel ruby new oswald and needed to take him out why i dont no but i do feel alot of what weve seen over the years has been made into a circus..but it was proberley ..bang bang................................................
Check out the HSCA testimony of Col Robert E. Jones of The 112th Military Intelligence Unit.He sent 8-12 plain clothes soldiers to Dealey Plaza that day.One of them,James Powell was found inside the TSBD building after the shooting.Several members of Brigade 2506 & CIA were also caught on film in Dealey Plaza.
the lies started on the moment of kennedys death,but i will say this pre 911 nobody had really heared of bin laden after kennedys death everybody new oswald,evedence of revision is worth a look even when kennerdy was in fort worth the media were speculating about assasination,the troube with all of these consipersys are that all are possible to a greater extent but nobodys been charged with kennerdys death or 911,
it goes back to same thing the direction of the corps was back to the left oswald was behind i think they should check it all again becaus lets be onast nobaody really nows what happend to jfk on 22 of september 1963
Research The 488th Military Intelligence Unit.Deputy Police Chief George Lumpkin was a member along with 50 other Dallas Policemen.Check out Jack Crichton & Lt Col George Whitmeyer also.
This video shows someone running on the sidewalk.This someone is in other films shot from other angles.This person is keeping pace with the limo until the first shot.Keep in mind all films have been manipulated.
FYI...Mal Couch along with Dallas Times Herald's Bob Jackson riding in the 3rd press car in the motorcade, both saw the rifle being withdrawn from the 6th flr. sniper's nest. Prompting Dallas Morning News' Tom Dillard with them in the motorcade, to take a great photo of the 5th/6th flrs of TSBD showing Norman, Williams and Jarmen still in their positions at the 5th flr. windows after hearing the shooting above them...THAT the "theorists" ignore! (Couch gave his account at 2:15 pm to WFAA-radio)
conspriracy theo. never say there wasnt someone in the 6th floor tex school book des. some people just also think that their was someone in the 2nd or 3rd floor in the dal tex building and someone in the grrassy knoll
"conspriracy theo. never say there wasnt someone in the 6th floor tex school book dep."
That I have to disagree with....it seems that most CTers bend over backwards to clear Oswald of anything...even the Tippet slaying!
And no matter where they think other shots came from - "2nd, 3rd flr. of Dal-Tex" (Altgens 1st photo shows people hanging out of the windows of that building and NONE heard/saw anything) there is simply no evidence, just endless speculation.
Exactly! CTs just want to discredit everything to make their THEORIES work and no one elses and if you try to give FACTS about the case, they act like 6th graders and call you "douchebag" instead of saying where their PROOF is.
Yet CTers are always the ones to yap about being so "open-minded" (something that only applies to them and those they agree with)
I'm always enjoy when they start spitting out their latest so-called "theory" and then if you ask them "How many people took part in the conspiracy?" They give a ridiculously low number or simply refuse to answer...for them to take on the question seriously makes their plot (and coverup) fall apart.
If you took all the conspiracy theories and all the CTers, they all "make sense if you look at it" then there would have been 19 shots fired in Dealey Plaza. And of course, "the Limo driver did it" theory. No one in the Plaza said, "Yea, I saw the driver turn around and cap his ass". Why would a driver do that in broad daylight with people filming? Why not wait until they go under the overpass?
Glad to know that some people have a thing called "Common Sense" pajasa62!
I think the only sane remark I've ever seen from a CTer on Youtube was this Nirvana32 guy saying, "Everybody loves a good mystery"...and I think that sums it up. They find it "entertaining" to come up with 50+ ways this one event happened.
I don't know what's worse...the driving doing it or the "umbrella man" firing a poison dart to paralyze JFK so he doesn't move for a head shot or "the badgeman theory" where you apparently have to take LSD to see a person shooting in a blurred photo.
IDK what happened exactly that day, but i do know that there was more than one person in on this plan, and the way the government investegated the assassination was rediculous! The WC was bullshit to a hard extent
they say that she refused to see the president through the view finder so she was holding it to her chest. if she would filmed this properly. that tape would be incredible...oh yeah....3 bullets from oslwald, acted alone, thats it period the end
Seems unlikely oswald acted alone. Almost impossible, in fact. The question of why the government lied to us about our president's murder is still up for debate, but that we were lied to is obvious to all but the hopelessly deluded at this point.
Wait, what's so special about this vid? It doesn't show anything useful. In fact, it only shows the President's limo pulling into the street before the street he gets shot in.
The more video that is revealed of the events surrounding the assassination supports a second shooter on the grassy knoll. It's easy to dismiss the theory from the Zapruder film but with the ancillary contributions it is clear that any argument for a single shooter is flawed and not well-thought out. Also, does anyone know if film in some 8mm cameras were destroyed by police on the scene? I read this somewhere or heard it but never found confirmation. Thanks - Bob.
here's a paranoid thought ever consider that one of us is a conspirator and we are planting false theories in the heads of people who read these comments think about it the government can't hide the truth forever but why not camouflage yourself and have people plant outrageous statements supposedly from the public :D
The throat shot originated either from the front or rear. As there were a number of onlookers on the triple overpass, it would be logical to presume the shot originated from the rear. This is an excellent place, for those that are sincerely interested, to begin your own analysis of the gun shot origin(s).
Remember, "what one man can do, another man can do". This drives home the fact that an investigation only requires desire and intellect.
Aye what i dont understand is why does everyone discuss and explain the shot from the back and the shot from the front, but no one ever explains the bullet hole in JFK's throat and the one on his back. Its like people act as if those shots dont exist.
Search Stephen Sindoni's You Tube video entitled "JFK Conspiracy Revealed By Eye Witness Phil Ochs". This amazing video uncovers possible evidence of a conspiracy involving George Herbert Walker Bush.
If G.H. Bush was involved does this mean Barbara Bush knew? If Barbara Bush knew does G.W. Bush know? If G.W. Bush knows does Jeb know? how come G.W. Bush is still alive? What if he goes senile in his old age and starts writing his autobiography?
Oh, boy. Here we go. I knew we'd get to THIS topic eventually...
What is it with you fudgepackers, can't you have ONE conversation without reference to "cocks in mouths"??? Jeez. Try to remember, just cause Daddy did it to you, doesn't mean EVERYBODY'S wants to do it!
Typical riposte from the in-house fudge nudger!You shirt lifters get in everywhere and I mean everywhere! Why don't you stay up the chocolate chute and leave decent people alone! That 'sand in the vagina' line was a gem but you don't fool anyone,honey!
Where did you get this idea from? The words 'cock sucking' were never mentioned.And what do you mean by 'amused'? You think I'm funny? I amuse you? I make you laugh? What way exactly do you think I'm funny?
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Some of you may notice on the right side of this page is Related Videos. 'What really happened at Dealey Plaza' by DHart007 is complete fabrication. DHart is also dishonest and probably a govt disinformation agent.
DHart removes comments of anyone who disagree with the government manufactured video and directs people to other film clips and websites that show reality and truth.
DHart lies when he claims he is only removing personal attacks on him.
At 0:17 you'll notice a ladyrunning in front of Rosemary Willis. She has a camera in her hands. Her film has never been publicly shown. No one even knows who she is.
Its funny how people who believe there was no conspiracy would take the word of brennan,his testimony is hillarious.And who are these other 2 witnesses PAJ?SIGH
Bouncer, reply to ME then I won't have to stumble upon your question.
Amos Euins, a 15 y/o, who was in police custody within minutes. AND Pulizer-prize photographer Bob Jackson of the Dallas Times Herald, who saw Harold Normann on the 5th flr. right below Oswald trying to look above him. Jackson like Euins saw the rifle being withdrawn from the window. This was the reason that Tom Dillard of the Dallas Morning News took his photo of Norman,Williams,Jarmen and the 6th flr. nest within seconds.
Hummm...Look at arched wall with holes in it. There is a shadowy figure behind the wall at the top left. She pans by this then almost immediately starts jerking camera around to locate where shots came from... she pans back to the wall. Interesting.
Typical of the JFK conspiratists, it's as if their waiting for a movie producer to come along for their imaginative,creative talent. Nothing personal my friend, but your big on fantasy, low on knowledge of the event....your looking at Howard Brennan who was one of the three eyewitnesses to seeing Oswald shoot at JFK.
Im not a conspiratist. I actually dont even spend my time following this crap on uTube so forgive my naievity. Someone sent me a link to something and I happened onto this video and just happened to notice it. No movie wanted or needed...I havent seen a JFK video in 20 years... but noticed something weird thats all. Forgive me for not knowing about Howard Brennan. I'm just regular folk. ;)
Ohh mighty and all knowing pajasa62...it must be wonderful to know everything that happened in Dealy that day..I guess all of officer Roger Craigs story is junk also....
Part 1: Roger Craig...another person that wishes his "15 minutes" were a bit longer.
Too bad he didn't do some research before and realize the Paine stationwagon was....acounted for! Curious how a law enforcer sees someone flee a sealed crime scene and does....nothing!
Craig also claimed himself to be the one "honest" cop regarding the gun being a Mauser, DESPITE Tom Alyea of WFAA sealed in the building filming the investigators dusting/examining the weapon with clear closeups of the rifle.
Part II. In 45 years of the Alyea film NO ONE has been able to look at he rifle and say, despite the similarity, it was not a Mannlicher-Carcano. What do the conspiracy kids say about that? They look to a DOCUMENTARY of the Alyea film edited with another film (for continuity?) as proof of something, when in reality (and they hate this) Alyea's film was shown on WFAA-TV the afternoon of 11/22 with Bert Shipp describing how the film was thrown out the window of the sealed building.
Oswald's test was positive for firing a revolver. It was INCONCLUSIVE for firing a Mannlicher-Carcano - why? There are no gaps between the chamber and the barrel of it to emit any nitrates.
Not that I accuse you of doing it, but it's silly for conspiracy theorists to despise the Warren Commission in one sentence and then embrace it in when it helps an argument. The people that know Oswald acted alone on the EVIDENCE, don't have the luxury of picking, excluding and choosing what's beneficial.
what about the hooker that was tossed from her car and told the doctors that they are going to kill kennedy in Dallas.....and no I did not see JFK....
Well the hooker,who was high on heroin (so you bring up cop of the year and whore of the year) allegedly LAUGHINGLY said "We are going to kill..." this was reported AFTER JFK was assassinated. And she wasn't thrown from a car she was hit by one in a drugged stupor.
PART 1: That statement always strikes me as having a poor knowledge of history and mere hindsight.
Why do conspiract theorists INSIST that the Secret Service were pulled off for THIS PARTICULAR motorcade. JFK's motorcade 30+ minutes before at Ft. Worth. didn't even use this limo! That car didn't have handbars & footrests and JFK had to wait in the Hotel Texas lobby for the car's top to be put down after it JUST stopped raining. Look at JFK's other motorcades,or FDR's, Truman's or IKE's.
i watched a documentary on jfks motorcade protection showing many different films of his car in various cities and accept for Dallas evrywhere else when he traveled he had SS men all over him especially on the rear riding bumper spots...
This is a good prelude film to Zapruder. See the little girl at bottom of screen running, she runs around the corner out of the shadows into the light. She is seen in Zapruder running then stop abruptly and look quickly to here right as first shots are fired. At very end of this film the assassination is taking place.
PPPiggy77 2 months ago
@PPPiggy77 yes, true, amazing how the people haven't reacted to the shot ringing out..don't think second was fired at end of this... yes, very poor photography, most of the other video from that day is quite good..
irish89055 1 month ago
You know, I don't know if any one else noticed but me. But if you read American history, all the other presidential assassinations and attempts, tended to be "up close and person" i.e. words the assassin tended to be close to the president/politician. Except this one. Always has been a mystery to me.
gotch09 5 months ago
Did anybody filming that day NOT have Parkinsons? Jeez
JulieBrownsGuitar 7 months ago 9
@JulieBrownsGuitar Well, we do have to keep in mind that this was 1963. Camera's and recorders were sorta crappy, especially in comparison to what we have today.
gotch09 5 months ago
@gotch09 The real shame is that not one of these home movie cameras had sound. If they had, many questions about the shots would have been conclusively resolved from the beginning.
Caeruleo 5 months ago
@Caeruleo 1963 cameras hand held cameras didn't have sound that I remember. And I agree, with the advancements since 1963, if they did have sound on them back then, maybe we could analyzed the acoustics and tried to figure out where the bullets came from. And then people wouldn't be having the arguments over where the bullets came from now.
gotch09 5 months ago
@gotch09 Well, they almost certainly would have had mono soundtracks, so I don't know how helpful that would have been as far as locating the source of the shots. What it would have answered definitively though is how many shots were fired and the relative timing of the shots. There's been a lot of controversy over the relative timing alone.
Caeruleo 5 months ago
I`m in this film. i`m standing fourth from the right on the stairs, wearing a red bow tie and white panama hat.
I saw Elsie Dorman coming out of the school book depository that day. At first i didnt`recognize her because she was wearing a mask and carrying her ``lucky`rifle. She used to take that with her everywhere. I waved, and yelled ``yoo hoo,, Elsie!`` But she didn`t hear me because she was wearing a set of rifle range ear protectors, and was concentrating on adjusting her rifle scope.
xvoy2002 10 months ago 5
NAH ITS NOT ME iM RUNNING ABOOUT FIVE MINUTES AHEAD OF THE LIMOS THIS ONE IS RUNNING SOON AS THE SHOOTS ARE FIRED
inspectorcritic 11 months ago
HEY IS THAT ME??? LOOK FOR A SMALL KID WEARING A HELMET AND CARRYING A RIFLE IN A BLANKET IF YOU CAN FIND THE PICTURE I'LL PAY YOU FIVE DOLLARS FOR IT.
inspectorcritic 11 months ago
@inspectorcritic I'll take $439 for it-not a penny more or a penny less. Thank you.
gotch09 5 months ago
@gotch09 Lets see the picture then and it better not be one of those blurred can't see any thing Virgin Mary maybe shots.
inspectorcritic 5 months ago
@inspectorcritic One question: will you take my $4.39 in pennies. I'll have to break open my piggy bank. BTW, I think it was a transgender,cross dressing berserk squirrel that committed the crime in question. That's my story and I'm a stickin' to it.
gotch09 5 months ago
A full-blown Parkinson's patient could have shot a better film!
SecretService80 11 months ago 2
If she is inside the TSBDB she would be a potential witness to things. Did she see anyone moving around? Did she hear anything? Or didn't hear shots? Did she proceed to the stairways? Did she proceed to the luchroom? And on and on......But I have never, ever heard of any testimony from her, nor any interview of her. She may hold information. Get it.
huskyjerk 11 months ago
J Edgar Hoover is responsible for every bad thing that happened since the 1930's from Pearl Harbor to 911.
He was a Super G Man ( Super Gay Man )
Turn off Coast to Coast and Alex Jones - its all crazy talk.
hownos 11 months ago
I think Arthur Bremer shot JFK. Then in 1972 he tried to kill George Wallace. An equal opportunity assassin. Of course, Hoover was behind both and the fake moon landing in 1969. Hoover was also behind the Princess Diana assassination even though he was dead for 25 years.
hownos 11 months ago
Bugliosi solved this. Move on people.
hownos 11 months ago
@hownos
Bugliosi is famous for convicting Manson. My cock could have convicted Manson. Hownos can now admire my prosecuting attorney.
Spahny1 11 months ago
@Spahny1 Art Bell has created a generation of basement dwelling ignoramuses.
hownos 11 months ago
she stopped just before the shooting, otherwise we would have had Oswald's view. Too bad.
hownos 1 year ago
@hownos ya uh-huh make you kinda wonderful, but remember the warren commission says
"Oswald did it" and i believe my beloved government, it never lies ... OK that now that thur i m selling you a bridge i n Antarctica, lets see OK Waco, ruby ridge,Atomic bomb test on US military personall. Human experiments introduced to radiation.who were sterile after,
that the Tuskegee experiment, the Japanese American Internment citizens, hmm.. did oh ya 1914: The Ludlow Massacre. that did i forget
gell7 11 months ago
@hownos oh ya did forget any thing else?
gell7 11 months ago
@hownos When she shot the film she was "afraid" to look through the viewfinder. What she was afraid of I do not know. She filmed this from the 4th floor of the TSBD which could have been the best view of the assassination. Look closely at the end of the film when her camera pans across the spectators at the corner of Elm and Houston. Some of them are looking at the TSBD at something up above from where Dorman was filming.
LoneNutter1 11 months ago
@LoneNutter1 you are correct - there are people looking up toward the TSBD at the end of the film. I thank you for poiting that out.
hownos 11 months ago
@hownos Thanks for looking! Some people just call me a government shill when I mentions such things and I thank you for your respectful comments.
LoneNutter1 11 months ago
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@LoneNutter1 you are correct - there are people looking up toward the TSBD at the end of the film. Thank you for pointing that out.
hownos 11 months ago
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Moggesa 1 year ago
Whoever has uploaded this video is not very diligent in watching comments on it. How sickening these comments are. One would think they would be removed.
newfypearl 1 year ago
I HEARD IL Y A LOTS OF POUTINE BITCHES UP IN ICI
CamLeTigre 1 year ago
LMFAO Report me asshole u started this poutine bitch LMFAO
MistaDollaD 1 year ago
@MistaDollaD Shut the fuck up! You fucking square head son of a bitch motherfucking cocksucker!!
k1IIer2one 1 year ago
@k1IIer2one im styll gonna type all i want. hey Du pa vous ami avec Ton erection.lol what does that mean poutine bitch? I know already
MistaDollaD 1 year ago
@MistaDollaD You can't even spell English! You fucking jerk off! What the fuck does "styll" mean?? You're an illiterate cunt!! LOL Illiterate in English and French!! LOL What does that mean? You fucked in the mouth, ear and eye inbred asshole!!
How many cocks did you suck today? LOL
MistaDoIIaD 1 year ago
@MistaDoIIaD not as many as ur Mom has today, Poutine bitch. Also why do u want to be me so bad.... I guess thats what poutine bitches (like yourself) do for fun.
MistaDollaD 1 year ago
@MistaDollaD Anybody who spells the English word ''still" as "styll" has to be some sort of educationally subnormal fucking idiot. Where did you learn to spell English?? In the Ukraine or Poland?? LOL You certainly didn't learn to spell English like that in Canada! Are you even Canadian? You ignorant asshole and racist bastard! You're a fucking disgrace!!
sbgaIt 1 year ago
@sbgaIt LOL you guys actually have nothing going on in ur life, so you come on youtube and try to pick fights with ppl. lol This is so funny .... Im sry to say this but get a life , its just a word. and even so why do u care so much. This is so sad ... But STYLL this was fun Poutine Bitches.
MistaDollaD 1 year ago
@MistaDollaD Get a life!! You sick sad cunt!! You fucking waster!!
Get a fucking job!! Asshole!! You're so fucking full of shit your shoes go squelch squelch when you walk! You fucking troll! You ugly degenerate racist cocksucker!
Fuck you!!
txIee1 1 year ago
@txIee1 hahahahahahahahaha POUTINE BITCH
MistaDollaD 1 year ago
@MistaDollaD You're STYLL a CUNT!!!
LOL LMFAO LOL LMFAO
sbgaIt 1 year ago
@sbgaIt ITs better to be a cunt then a Poutine Bitch , styll that fine with me. POUTINE SALOPE hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
MistaDollaD 1 year ago
@MistaDollaD And such an ugly cunt, too. But it's better to be an ugly overweight cunt......I suppose..........
Too many fucking burgers and French fries. The fat fuck. LOL
R2DID2 1 year ago
@R2DID2 dont forget the poutine's mmmhmm hm mmmmmmmm cheese curds and beef gravy ...... mmmmmmmmm
MistaDollaD 1 year ago
@MistaDollaD You sound like a big fat lump of talking lard. Fucking Canadian slob!! Ah well. Throw another chicken on the barbecue and we'll forget all about it. You hungry cunt!! Mmmmmmmmmm Tastes good! Chickenhead!!
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Megoman112 1 year ago
@Megoman112 But he'll STYLL be a fucking CUNT!!! LOL
sbgaIt 1 year ago
@sbgaIt Also im not Racist calling someone a poutine bitch isnt racist.... Asking someone if they're from the Ukraine or Poland Or anywhere for that matter, cuz they "can't spell" that's racist and stereotyping...
MistaDollaD 1 year ago
who picks fights on the Internet lol
MistaDollaD 1 year ago
What a missed opportunity-I only recently found out someone was filming from the depository and they get someone with the DT's.
MALCBAGGIE 1 year ago
@MALCBAGGIE So tell us what you know about the DTs. You fucking wino!!
I bet you were one of the three tramps. You drunken hobo alco!!
k1IIer2one 1 year ago
@k1IIer2one I heard hick French Canadian like yourself like to hit on they're brothers. ... wait i cant hear you over your spoons .... Go eat a fucking poutine ... Salope
MistaDollaD 1 year ago
@MistaDollaD I play the spoons on your fucking face, man! Ton père a fouré ta mère tellement fort, que tu suçais des queues déjà quand t'étais un foetus.
Gros crisse de plein de marde!! Va t'enculer! Va manger des bites!! Lopette!! Va te faire foutre!! You fucking mother fucker homo lumberjack!!
k1IIer2one 1 year ago
@MistaDollaD Fuck you! Cock sucker!!
MistaDoIIaD 1 year ago
@MistaDollaD I'll shove my fucking spoons so far up your fucking ass your fucking teeth'll rattle to the tune of Oh fucking Canada. I demand an apology from you for your racist anti-Canadian French insults!! I want an apology NOW! And I mean right fucking MAINTENANT!! I shall report you to YouTube!!
k1IIer2one 1 year ago
He's definitely not one of the assassins.
DannyBruiz 1 year ago
@VinnyCooCooClock LOL you're the best Vinny so far!!! LOL
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
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@VinnyCooCooClock Who the fuck are you calling 'anglo saxon'?
You fucked in the ass little turd!
Ring a bell? I'll wring your fucking homo neck!
You fucking mongrel bastard!!
jfiIes0000000 1 year ago
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@VinnyCooCooClock Hey man! Get that big fucking cock out your fucking mouth before you start spouting your fucking bullshit! ....... Okay. I'm done.
You can put that jumbo cock back in your fucking mouth, again. Asshole!!
Y'all take care, now! Ye hear?? Have a nice cock-sucking day!
Missing you already!!
Mobilecheese 1 year ago
ALL films of the assassination were scooped up immediately. When they were returned to the owners, the key moments were missing or (like this one) the framing suddenly focuses on something unrelated which was previously in the corner of the shot... Even the Zapruder film moves in so that Jack and Jackie are suddenly at THE VERY BOTTOM of the frame when he was killed, so that no gunshots to the limo (and there were some) can be spotted on screen. All films were altered, and many quite obviously.
scorpio888 1 year ago
eeeeehm....I don't know about one of the running people but the other one is clearly and simply the little girl in white and red that we can see at the beginning of the zapruder film (right behind the limo, on the sidewalk, she suddenly stops when the car is hidden by the stemmons road sign) !
No conspiracy stuff here....I might even guess the other dude running is her dad or something, they juste wanted to see the president as he was turing on Elm)!
ShakenVodka 1 year ago
10 COMMENTS the past week because 2 ladies were running? TEN?
Geez, I'm glad I don't the imagination of a conspiracy theorist where EVERYTHING turns into something sinister.
Take a look at the motorcade footage as it departs Love Field...THERE you had at least 50 people running! Why? As Bob Walker the announcer says they're excited "wanting to get a second look at the President & the First Lady"
HEY!!! Maybe they were running to Dealey Plaza to tell the shooters to call off the whole thing.
pajasa62 1 year ago
Who was that running alongside the wall at about 00:16? Looks pretty suspicious to me. Why would they be running? It couldn't be to get a better view of the president, since the view from there would've been just fine. And why would they be running into the shadows by the tree? Isn't that where the grassy knoll is?
rickyfan3956 1 year ago
@rickyfan3956 No, I think that is across the street from the Grassy Knoll but it is mighty strange.
tourivers83 1 year ago
@tourivers83 I'm looking at diagrams of the Grassy Knoll and Dealy Plaza to see where the Running Man might have been in relation to the Grassy Knoll. If you look closely, there is some kind of pool behind him, behind that wall. But I can't make out which direction he was running--North, South, East or West.
rickyfan3956 1 year ago
@rickyfan3956 I think that Running Man is running down Elm Street toward the Triple Underpass. Actually it seems to be two people running with the one in back wearing some sort of uniform. Weird.
tourivers83 1 year ago
@tourivers83 Now that you mention it, I think you're right. I'm picturing Dealy Plaza in my mind, and it seems accurate. The question remains, though, why are they running? I wonder if they started running before or after the first shot was fired? If they were running after the first shot was fired, that would be understandable, if they were just innocent bystanders.
rickyfan3956 1 year ago
@rickyfan3956 After looking at a colour version of this film I think that both people are in uniform and this is just a little before the first shot is fired. I wish I knew what they were running for.
tourivers83 1 year ago
@tourivers83 Yeah, I know. Me, too! That just drives me crazy, not knowing why they were running! Do you think they could possibly be Federal Agents or something? That might explain why they were running, but in that case, I'd think they'd be running behind the car, to protect the president and the first lady. Or maybe they were Federal Agents and they saw something suspicious on the Grassy Knoll or in that vicinity. Maybe that's why they were running. Where did you see a colorized version?
rickyfan3956 1 year ago
@rickyfan3956 It’s on youtube, just type in “JFK Assassination The complete Elsie Dorman film”. It just looks clearer to me then this one. I think one of the running people is a girl named Rosemary Willis. She was running with the Limo and can also be seen in the Z film.
tourivers83 1 year ago
@tourivers83 Yeah, come to think of it, they were probably running before the first shot was fired, as Ms Dorman probably would've swung the camera around wildly at the sound of a gunshot. More wildly than the film is already jumping around, anyway.
rickyfan3956 1 year ago
@tourivers83 If they were running before the first shot was fired, that would be questionable behavior, especially since they were, essentially, running toward the president. I don't know about back then, but today, if someone started running toward the president, the Secret Service would be all over them, tackling them to the ground and such!
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rickyfan3956 1 year ago
she was sucking oswalds dick while taking the film, hence the shaky angle
nunobits12 1 year ago
Elsie Dorman had no experience with a movie camera but agreed to take the video on a relative's request. She was in fact inside the depository bldg about 6 windows over from Oswald. She felt the eyepiece would obstruct her clear sight of Kennedy so they took the video without looking through the viewfinder & blindly aimed the camera toward where she waslooking, hence the jumpy film.
Anglynn74 1 year ago
I have never seen this film before...It looks like it was shot from inside the TSBD Building...Too bad it was editted as well.
flomoose1 1 year ago
It does seem somewhat jerky, and out of focus. Why bother to film something so badly. The remark below about the Parkinson's is awful, but funny, and that's what it looks like, I'm afraid.
Buondelmonte123 1 year ago
The camera had a turret mount lens
reginaldbowlsiii 1 year ago
very sudden camera jerk at :22. may have been reaction to first shot?
mondo270 1 year ago
for those below who dont know, Dorman was a woman not a man: Elsie Dorman
charlieknowhow 1 year ago
The films shows, why didn't Oswald fire with the car coming towards him.?
bismuthcadmium 1 year ago
If Dorman had not been playing with himself, he couldve shot stable footage! Remember people, dont beat off when your trying to film news events!
bobisdark 1 year ago
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This film was confiscated from Dorman, and then altered before returning it to him.
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Remember how you zoom in/out your camera? You SEE the zooming take place. But not on this film. It is sudden; instant.
Look at the size of people and cycle cops from start to 0:11. Then instantly at 0:12 to the end of film they are larger.
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The background was re-sized larger and the film was section spiced.
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THINK !!
Why do we not see the limo? YOU would certainly keep focus on it. Something bad happened.
grassyknollkiller 1 year ago 2
@grassyknollkiller "This film was confiscated from Dorman, and then altered before returning it to him"
"Him" was a 'her' dumbfuck!
10Faenorr 1 year ago 2
Maybe this Dorman is the guy who had the epileptic seizure in Stone's JFK film.
FarEastBeast 1 year ago
garbage.
N3XU551X 1 year ago
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There is a problem with the color photos of the limo in the Washington DC garage. The rear seat shows a RED blood smear.
That is a huge oxidation problem.
In this universe, over the time from the Elm St conspiracy murder to the garage pictures, the limo blood can not still be RED. But it is. A RED LIE is smeared over previous dried DARK blood stains on the seat.
There were no dark seat stains before Dallas. Most blood was wiped off in Dallas.
They added RED blood to alter investigations.
usefulstuf 1 year ago
@usefulstuf i pulled the trunk mat out of a car that had a almost dead guy's body transported to the hole he was put in. we didn't know it at the time and the owner said it was brown spilled paint .Only after being interviewed by detectives did I realize what the brown spilled paint was. It was the victims blood.Can't give details here but weirdly the murderer was a beautiful girl and the victim was an old rich man. And the bullet didn't kill him so she just buried him alive.
gplito 1 year ago
This Dorman missed out on the home movie scoop of the millenium by miscuing and misdirecting his filming. He's caught some sundry, scattered images, but missed anything directly to do with the assassination. Unless, everyone there that day is a friggin' suspect, of course.
Richardhedditch261 1 year ago
the one thing that struck me by being an armchair detective was the fact that so many assasins were in deally plasa that day,its pure speculation but i feel ruby new oswald and needed to take him out why i dont no but i do feel alot of what weve seen over the years has been made into a circus..but it was proberley ..bang bang................................................
aifammafiaaifam 2 years ago
Check out the HSCA testimony of Col Robert E. Jones of The 112th Military Intelligence Unit.He sent 8-12 plain clothes soldiers to Dealey Plaza that day.One of them,James Powell was found inside the TSBD building after the shooting.Several members of Brigade 2506 & CIA were also caught on film in Dealey Plaza.
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
the lies started on the moment of kennedys death,but i will say this pre 911 nobody had really heared of bin laden after kennedys death everybody new oswald,evedence of revision is worth a look even when kennerdy was in fort worth the media were speculating about assasination,the troube with all of these consipersys are that all are possible to a greater extent but nobodys been charged with kennerdys death or 911,
aifammafiaaifam 2 years ago
Dorman was certainly no Filmmaker!
PeterSodhi 2 years ago
@PeterSodhi It was the first time of her life that she used a camera.
Forsure3333 2 years ago
22 NOVEMBER 1963
deepthoughts07 2 years ago
@deepthoughts07
JuseNSheena 2 years ago
it goes back to same thing the direction of the corps was back to the left oswald was behind i think they should check it all again becaus lets be onast nobaody really nows what happend to jfk on 22 of september 1963
grahambonnet1996 2 years ago
November, not september!
blazed24sevn 1 year ago
utter crap a waste of space
juddsky8 2 years ago
Research The 488th Military Intelligence Unit.Deputy Police Chief George Lumpkin was a member along with 50 other Dallas Policemen.Check out Jack Crichton & Lt Col George Whitmeyer also.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
Wow, well, of all of these (films), this one's just a mess. I guess in al the excitement...
CrashingCrockery 2 years ago
a full blown parkinson's patient could have shot a better film
joeylodes 2 years ago 20
@joeylodes lol..
neilzep 1 year ago
@joeylodes lmfao
dbz4lifemm 1 year ago
@joeylodes 04/05/14
spm1021 1 year ago
@spm1021 ?
joeylodes 1 year ago
@joeylodes woman + camera = this "quality"
SwampyQ2 1 year ago
Why in the HELL were they driving that damn car without the bubble top on?
LongLiveOx 2 years ago
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so the C.I.A had a clear shot.
paleopeneyes 2 years ago
Because it was a nice day.
medeivalstargazer 2 years ago
This video shows someone running on the sidewalk.This someone is in other films shot from other angles.This person is keeping pace with the limo until the first shot.Keep in mind all films have been manipulated.
stracenerdanny 2 years ago
you guys have got to see the Couch film clip!!! That clip says it all.....oswald...yeah...he was a patsy!
onceANexile 2 years ago
FYI...Mal Couch along with Dallas Times Herald's Bob Jackson riding in the 3rd press car in the motorcade, both saw the rifle being withdrawn from the 6th flr. sniper's nest. Prompting Dallas Morning News' Tom Dillard with them in the motorcade, to take a great photo of the 5th/6th flrs of TSBD showing Norman, Williams and Jarmen still in their positions at the 5th flr. windows after hearing the shooting above them...THAT the "theorists" ignore! (Couch gave his account at 2:15 pm to WFAA-radio)
pajasa62 2 years ago
conspriracy theo. never say there wasnt someone in the 6th floor tex school book des. some people just also think that their was someone in the 2nd or 3rd floor in the dal tex building and someone in the grrassy knoll
pat442389 2 years ago
"conspriracy theo. never say there wasnt someone in the 6th floor tex school book dep."
That I have to disagree with....it seems that most CTers bend over backwards to clear Oswald of anything...even the Tippet slaying!
And no matter where they think other shots came from - "2nd, 3rd flr. of Dal-Tex" (Altgens 1st photo shows people hanging out of the windows of that building and NONE heard/saw anything) there is simply no evidence, just endless speculation.
pajasa62 2 years ago
Exactly! CTs just want to discredit everything to make their THEORIES work and no one elses and if you try to give FACTS about the case, they act like 6th graders and call you "douchebag" instead of saying where their PROOF is.
corydwalker 2 years ago
Agreed.
Yet CTers are always the ones to yap about being so "open-minded" (something that only applies to them and those they agree with)
I'm always enjoy when they start spitting out their latest so-called "theory" and then if you ask them "How many people took part in the conspiracy?" They give a ridiculously low number or simply refuse to answer...for them to take on the question seriously makes their plot (and coverup) fall apart.
pajasa62 2 years ago
If you took all the conspiracy theories and all the CTers, they all "make sense if you look at it" then there would have been 19 shots fired in Dealey Plaza. And of course, "the Limo driver did it" theory. No one in the Plaza said, "Yea, I saw the driver turn around and cap his ass". Why would a driver do that in broad daylight with people filming? Why not wait until they go under the overpass?
Glad to know that some people have a thing called "Common Sense" pajasa62!
corydwalker 2 years ago
Thanks,
I think the only sane remark I've ever seen from a CTer on Youtube was this Nirvana32 guy saying, "Everybody loves a good mystery"...and I think that sums it up. They find it "entertaining" to come up with 50+ ways this one event happened.
I don't know what's worse...the driving doing it or the "umbrella man" firing a poison dart to paralyze JFK so he doesn't move for a head shot or "the badgeman theory" where you apparently have to take LSD to see a person shooting in a blurred photo.
pajasa62 2 years ago
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blazed24sevn 1 year ago
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IDK what happened exactly that day, but i do know that there was more than one person in on this plan, and the way the government investegated the assassination was rediculous! The WC was bullshit to a hard extent
blazed24sevn 1 year ago
they say that she refused to see the president through the view finder so she was holding it to her chest. if she would filmed this properly. that tape would be incredible...oh yeah....3 bullets from oslwald, acted alone, thats it period the end
danfro 2 years ago
Seems unlikely oswald acted alone. Almost impossible, in fact. The question of why the government lied to us about our president's murder is still up for debate, but that we were lied to is obvious to all but the hopelessly deluded at this point.
paleopeneyes 2 years ago
thing is the fed gov pulls the strings and the president dances, the president didnt want to do the soulja boy so they shot him
greatestyankee 2 years ago
Wait, what's so special about this vid? It doesn't show anything useful. In fact, it only shows the President's limo pulling into the street before the street he gets shot in.
Manbeast222 2 years ago
It's taken from the 4th floor of The Texas School Book Depository.
pajasa62 2 years ago
The more video that is revealed of the events surrounding the assassination supports a second shooter on the grassy knoll. It's easy to dismiss the theory from the Zapruder film but with the ancillary contributions it is clear that any argument for a single shooter is flawed and not well-thought out. Also, does anyone know if film in some 8mm cameras were destroyed by police on the scene? I read this somewhere or heard it but never found confirmation. Thanks - Bob.
BobLillo 3 years ago
It's a pity that she' s didn't handle camera better .Maybe then that movie wold be better then zapruder film
bsz 3 years ago
Dorman wasn't too handy with the Bell & Howell was he?
bstnguy9 3 years ago
here's a paranoid thought ever consider that one of us is a conspirator and we are planting false theories in the heads of people who read these comments think about it the government can't hide the truth forever but why not camouflage yourself and have people plant outrageous statements supposedly from the public :D
grimess66 3 years ago
this is the proof ladies n gents.......why? because in in 1963 this is what a home movie would o looked like ,fuck the zapruder film
jplpool 3 years ago
The throat shot originated either from the front or rear. As there were a number of onlookers on the triple overpass, it would be logical to presume the shot originated from the rear. This is an excellent place, for those that are sincerely interested, to begin your own analysis of the gun shot origin(s).
Remember, "what one man can do, another man can do". This drives home the fact that an investigation only requires desire and intellect.
BobLillo 3 years ago
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themeaningoflife38 3 years ago
Aye what i dont understand is why does everyone discuss and explain the shot from the back and the shot from the front, but no one ever explains the bullet hole in JFK's throat and the one on his back. Its like people act as if those shots dont exist.
Killerstroke96 3 years ago
Search Stephen Sindoni's You Tube video entitled "JFK Conspiracy Revealed By Eye Witness Phil Ochs". This amazing video uncovers possible evidence of a conspiracy involving George Herbert Walker Bush.
sindoniproductions 3 years ago
If G.H. Bush was involved does this mean Barbara Bush knew? If Barbara Bush knew does G.W. Bush know? If G.W. Bush knows does Jeb know? how come G.W. Bush is still alive? What if he goes senile in his old age and starts writing his autobiography?
Chapter 1: "How I killed JFK?"
Mobilecheese 3 years ago
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Why not?
He'd be shot before he finished.
One question you DIDN'T ask: "How stupid am I?"
LazlosPlane 3 years ago
Calm down!
How stupid are you and how stupid can you GET?
Lighten up before you have a cardiac arrest!
Mobilecheese 3 years ago 2
Someone's got sand in their vagina...
(talk about "calming down" wow..)
LazlosPlane 3 years ago
LazlosPlane:
You'll have a cock in your mouth if you don't behave! You'd like that,wouldn't you?
Mobilecheese 3 years ago
Oh, boy. Here we go. I knew we'd get to THIS topic eventually...
What is it with you fudgepackers, can't you have ONE conversation without reference to "cocks in mouths"??? Jeez. Try to remember, just cause Daddy did it to you, doesn't mean EVERYBODY'S wants to do it!
LazlosPlane 3 years ago
LOL
Typical riposte from the in-house fudge nudger!You shirt lifters get in everywhere and I mean everywhere! Why don't you stay up the chocolate chute and leave decent people alone! That 'sand in the vagina' line was a gem but you don't fool anyone,honey!
Mobilecheese 3 years ago
I see.
Um... who first brought up "cock sucking..."?? Uh... You. 'Nuff said.
Now go away. We are no longer amused. Besides, I have an actual job.
LazlosPlane 3 years ago
Who brought up 'cock sucking'? Certainly not me!
Where did you get this idea from? The words 'cock sucking' were never mentioned.And what do you mean by 'amused'? You think I'm funny? I amuse you? I make you laugh? What way exactly do you think I'm funny?
Mobilecheese 3 years ago 3
@Mobilecheese 07/11/20
spm1021 1 year ago
@Mobilecheese mobile cheese is a funny name but i dont think u should suck cocks tho... unless ur in to that thing then suck away...i have no beef lol
MistaDollaD 1 year ago
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Mobilecheese 1 year ago
@MistaDollaD Don't believe anything this asshole MistaDollaD says. I heard this troll MisterDullAss is so fucking dumb he still thinks his dick's just for peeing with. Coming in here talking about sucking cocks when the shit for brains is still sucking his thumb and everyfuckingbody else's!! Crazy!! Talk about funny nicks. MistaDollaD!!?? MisterDorkDick LMFAO
LookSlyWanker 1 year ago
@LookSlyWanker Well said. But remember MistaDollHeaD is also a Canadian so anything he says doesn't count. Ignore the TROLL.
k1IIer2one 1 year ago
@LookSlyWanker @mobilecheese you guys love to talk about cock eh ? i think you guys need each other lmfao
MistaDollaD 1 year ago
@MistaDollaD LOL You're the ONLY one discussing it!! Go join cocksuckers' forum!! LOL
MistaDoIIaD 1 year ago
did you just threaten somebody on the internet by sticking your cock in their mouth...? damn that shit is hella gay!
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danixmukidz 3 years ago
Some of you may notice on the right side of this page is Related Videos. 'What really happened at Dealey Plaza' by DHart007 is complete fabrication. DHart is also dishonest and probably a govt disinformation agent.
DHart removes comments of anyone who disagree with the government manufactured video and directs people to other film clips and websites that show reality and truth.
DHart lies when he claims he is only removing personal attacks on him.
disinformationagent 3 years ago
Who's shooting this helen keller?she's RIGHT THERE! What was her thoughts?
32nirvana 3 years ago
At 0:17 you'll notice a ladyrunning in front of Rosemary Willis. She has a camera in her hands. Her film has never been publicly shown. No one even knows who she is.
MisterQuebec 3 years ago
Its funny how people who believe there was no conspiracy would take the word of brennan,his testimony is hillarious.And who are these other 2 witnesses PAJ?SIGH
bouncer97 3 years ago
Bouncer, reply to ME then I won't have to stumble upon your question.
Amos Euins, a 15 y/o, who was in police custody within minutes. AND Pulizer-prize photographer Bob Jackson of the Dallas Times Herald, who saw Harold Normann on the 5th flr. right below Oswald trying to look above him. Jackson like Euins saw the rifle being withdrawn from the window. This was the reason that Tom Dillard of the Dallas Morning News took his photo of Norman,Williams,Jarmen and the 6th flr. nest within seconds.
pajasa62 3 years ago
Hummm...Look at arched wall with holes in it. There is a shadowy figure behind the wall at the top left. She pans by this then almost immediately starts jerking camera around to locate where shots came from... she pans back to the wall. Interesting.
Seeking2know 3 years ago
Typical of the JFK conspiratists, it's as if their waiting for a movie producer to come along for their imaginative,creative talent. Nothing personal my friend, but your big on fantasy, low on knowledge of the event....your looking at Howard Brennan who was one of the three eyewitnesses to seeing Oswald shoot at JFK.
pajasa62 3 years ago
Im not a conspiratist. I actually dont even spend my time following this crap on uTube so forgive my naievity. Someone sent me a link to something and I happened onto this video and just happened to notice it. No movie wanted or needed...I havent seen a JFK video in 20 years... but noticed something weird thats all. Forgive me for not knowing about Howard Brennan. I'm just regular folk. ;)
Seeking2know 3 years ago
Your honesty is refreshing on this site. Thank you.
pajasa62 3 years ago
Typical hasty judgment from a non-conspiracist.
MisterQuebec 3 years ago
So what's your opinion, Mr. Conspiracy? What shadowy figures can YOU conjure up?
pajasa62 3 years ago
There is nothing sinister in these images.
MisterQuebec 3 years ago
Ohh mighty and all knowing pajasa62...it must be wonderful to know everything that happened in Dealy that day..I guess all of officer Roger Craigs story is junk also....
migo53333 3 years ago
Part 1: Roger Craig...another person that wishes his "15 minutes" were a bit longer.
Too bad he didn't do some research before and realize the Paine stationwagon was....acounted for! Curious how a law enforcer sees someone flee a sealed crime scene and does....nothing!
Craig also claimed himself to be the one "honest" cop regarding the gun being a Mauser, DESPITE Tom Alyea of WFAA sealed in the building filming the investigators dusting/examining the weapon with clear closeups of the rifle.
pajasa62 3 years ago
Part II. In 45 years of the Alyea film NO ONE has been able to look at he rifle and say, despite the similarity, it was not a Mannlicher-Carcano. What do the conspiracy kids say about that? They look to a DOCUMENTARY of the Alyea film edited with another film (for continuity?) as proof of something, when in reality (and they hate this) Alyea's film was shown on WFAA-TV the afternoon of 11/22 with Bert Shipp describing how the film was thrown out the window of the sealed building.
pajasa62 3 years ago
what about a nonpositive test result with oswalds parafin test....
migo53333 3 years ago
Oswald's test was positive for firing a revolver. It was INCONCLUSIVE for firing a Mannlicher-Carcano - why? There are no gaps between the chamber and the barrel of it to emit any nitrates.
Not that I accuse you of doing it, but it's silly for conspiracy theorists to despise the Warren Commission in one sentence and then embrace it in when it helps an argument. The people that know Oswald acted alone on the EVIDENCE, don't have the luxury of picking, excluding and choosing what's beneficial.
pajasa62 3 years ago
what about the hooker that was tossed from her car and told the doctors that they are going to kill kennedy in Dallas.....and no I did not see JFK....
migo53333 3 years ago
Well the hooker,who was high on heroin (so you bring up cop of the year and whore of the year) allegedly LAUGHINGLY said "We are going to kill..." this was reported AFTER JFK was assassinated. And she wasn't thrown from a car she was hit by one in a drugged stupor.
pajasa62 3 years ago
why were secret service men told to stay off the back of prez limo....
migo53333 3 years ago
PART 1: That statement always strikes me as having a poor knowledge of history and mere hindsight.
Why do conspiract theorists INSIST that the Secret Service were pulled off for THIS PARTICULAR motorcade. JFK's motorcade 30+ minutes before at Ft. Worth. didn't even use this limo! That car didn't have handbars & footrests and JFK had to wait in the Hotel Texas lobby for the car's top to be put down after it JUST stopped raining. Look at JFK's other motorcades,or FDR's, Truman's or IKE's.
pajasa62 3 years ago
i watched a documentary on jfks motorcade protection showing many different films of his car in various cities and accept for Dallas evrywhere else when he traveled he had SS men all over him especially on the rear riding bumper spots...
migo53333 3 years ago