Many people in many cultures have claimed be diety. "An El Haq!" (I am god!) Al Hilaj Mansoor - Sufi mystic. "I am god" Charles Manson. "I am the truth" Meher Baba. "I know my original face" Osho. "I am the light" Satya Sai Baba. "I am the last messenger" Mohammed. etc. etc..........
Okay, but how many of them prophesied their own dead and ressurrection and then did it. How many of them have a creed written about them about these very events. A creed that was put together, no doubt within months of their "disappearance" from the earth. I'd say probably very few of them--maybe none.
Over 60 in the ancient world prior to Jesus. See Joe of arimethea, Mithra, Cyrus, Zarathrustra, etc. The Jesus story is a multi-cultural pagan myth of the ancient world.
ablue, to be honest, these statements are laughable to me. i am not laughing at you. It is that people in hindsight think that these ancients are something. I don't think Joe of A. should be in the list, he is the one who gave the tomb and buried Jesus in it.
Jesus is not multi-cultural--only one and the Greek new testament is not myth--that is just a view of the world but not reality.
Many early blues tunes have the lyric "Woke up this morning blues devils all around my bed." This refers to DTs caused by severe alcoholism. More recent songs drop the world 'devils' in the lyric to just 'blues.' This is one explanation of the origin of the word 'blues.'
THE TRINITY DOCTRINE IS AS DEBASED AND AS FALSE AS THE THEORY OF EVELUTION.....BOTH ARE LIES...PROMOTED AND FASCILITATED BY THE CREATOR'S ADVERSARY..SATAN THE DEVIL....STOP WITH YOUR MAN-MADE, UNSCRIPTURAL PROPAGANDA!!!!........Ask yourselves some REAL questions...WHO IS JESUS....WHAT IS HIS PURPOSE....WHY DID HE COME....AND WHAT DID HE STATE THAT WOULD BE AN INDENTIFYING MARK OF THOSE WHO ARE TRULY HIS FOLLOWERS....????
Thanks for commenting. Jesus is Jehovah. Jehovah appeared in Genesis 18 in physical form as a human to Abraham, and did so at other points in Old Testament times. Jesus is no different from that.
Why did not Jesus rebuke Thomas, who at first doubted him but came to see what/whom he truly was in John 20:28. He is not an arrogant snob who has to go round broadcasting who He is, but those who want will know Him.
MATTHEW 26:39....Jesus Speaking..."My Father....not as I will. but as YOU will"......AND AGAIN at MATTHEW CHAPT 24...the disciples of the Master wanted to know when the end would come....JESUS REPLY...at verse 36...Nobody knows...neither the angels or the SON....ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS."----The Master IS NOT THE ALMIGHTY GOD....Jesus Christ is The Son of The Living God and the 1st of God's creative works---COLOSSIANS 1:15.
I am not denying that there is an order between the Father and Son. Does your translation refer to the Holy Spirit as "the Holy Spirit" or just "holy spirit?"
Jesus, as the God/Man was here making a distinction between the Father and Himself. He is not the Father, He is the Word, the Son of God. Jesus did not lie to Mary. He said the truth to her. My belief is not anything different from Mary's belief or Jesus' belief.
FUNNY how the Nation of Israel never worshipped their ONE, TRUE GOD as a trinity....QUESTION...?....When the MASTER, Jesus would pray for the strenth to glorify his father...., WHO WAS HE PRAYING TO...???...HIMSELF???
Jesus Christ IS NOT God Almighty, nor part of a trinity...ALL THIS BUNK WAS STARTED at the Council of Nicea in 325 c.e.....hence, THE NICEAN CREED...and is nothing more than a SATANIC MAN-MADE DOCTRINE...JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD...AND THE 1ST OF GOD'S CREATIVE WORKS....BELIEVING IN A TRINITY OR THAT CHRIST IS GOD HIMSELF IS AS SILLY AS BELIEVING IN THE EVELOUTIONARY BUNK...
Oh I didn't know for a long time as I was born a Christian, but I read the bible for myself at age 53, and that really opened my eyes to this bloodthirsty death cult from the desert.
Now I don't know for sure if there is a Creator or not, but I am sure that I will not bend another knee to that manufactured bloodthirsty bible deity!
I was taught there is GOD and the WORD, and the WORD and GOD could not be separated!
Now I wouldnt have thought there would be any lies in the WORD of GOD, but after reading that bloodthirsty book and finding so many lies, I have decided it is the biggest scam ever ran on mankind!
If my family bible had not been passed down to me by my Mother, and had her hand writing in it, I would burn the damn thing on the junk heap!
Now let me see, so many lies so little time;how about Eve being made from Adam's rib? (smile)
We all know, and it has been proven that all fetuses begin as female and doesn't change into a male until a Y chromosome kicks in; so the male is an adaptation of the female and not the other way around. (smile)
If God did IT -- gee, i wish there were bolding capability -- then could have happened exactly that way. But, that is not a lie! I can't "prove" it happened and you can't "prove" that it did not.
Many people in many cultures have claimed be diety. "An El Haq!" (I am god!) Al Hilaj Mansoor - Sufi mystic. "I am god" Charles Manson. "I am the truth" Meher Baba. "I know my original face" Osho. "I am the light" Satya Sai Baba. "I am the last messenger" Mohammed. etc. etc..........
Antarblue 2 years ago
Okay, but how many of them prophesied their own dead and ressurrection and then did it. How many of them have a creed written about them about these very events. A creed that was put together, no doubt within months of their "disappearance" from the earth. I'd say probably very few of them--maybe none.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
Over 60 in the ancient world prior to Jesus. See Joe of arimethea, Mithra, Cyrus, Zarathrustra, etc. The Jesus story is a multi-cultural pagan myth of the ancient world.
Antarblue 2 years ago
ablue, to be honest, these statements are laughable to me. i am not laughing at you. It is that people in hindsight think that these ancients are something. I don't think Joe of A. should be in the list, he is the one who gave the tomb and buried Jesus in it.
Jesus is not multi-cultural--only one and the Greek new testament is not myth--that is just a view of the world but not reality.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
I love blues BTW. I thank that is what the blue stands for???
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
Many early blues tunes have the lyric "Woke up this morning blues devils all around my bed." This refers to DTs caused by severe alcoholism. More recent songs drop the world 'devils' in the lyric to just 'blues.' This is one explanation of the origin of the word 'blues.'
Antarblue 2 years ago
xdsada
Greenhorsemanship 2 years ago
I am not up on my acronyms.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
oh?
it's Icelandic
Greenhorsemanship 2 years ago
I am not from there--meaning?
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
THE TRINITY DOCTRINE IS AS DEBASED AND AS FALSE AS THE THEORY OF EVELUTION.....BOTH ARE LIES...PROMOTED AND FASCILITATED BY THE CREATOR'S ADVERSARY..SATAN THE DEVIL....STOP WITH YOUR MAN-MADE, UNSCRIPTURAL PROPAGANDA!!!!........Ask yourselves some REAL questions...WHO IS JESUS....WHAT IS HIS PURPOSE....WHY DID HE COME....AND WHAT DID HE STATE THAT WOULD BE AN INDENTIFYING MARK OF THOSE WHO ARE TRULY HIS FOLLOWERS....????
armageddon2419 2 years ago
Thanks for commenting. Jesus is Jehovah. Jehovah appeared in Genesis 18 in physical form as a human to Abraham, and did so at other points in Old Testament times. Jesus is no different from that.
Why did not Jesus rebuke Thomas, who at first doubted him but came to see what/whom he truly was in John 20:28. He is not an arrogant snob who has to go round broadcasting who He is, but those who want will know Him.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
MATTHEW 26:39....Jesus Speaking..."My Father....not as I will. but as YOU will"......AND AGAIN at MATTHEW CHAPT 24...the disciples of the Master wanted to know when the end would come....JESUS REPLY...at verse 36...Nobody knows...neither the angels or the SON....ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS."----The Master IS NOT THE ALMIGHTY GOD....Jesus Christ is The Son of The Living God and the 1st of God's creative works---COLOSSIANS 1:15.
armageddon2419 2 years ago
"God's creative works" it does not say that, it says "firstborn." The "firstborn" was physical and in the form of a human, yes, absolutely.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
Again at JOHN 14:28...."The Father is Greater than I."
armageddon2419 2 years ago
I am not denying that there is an order between the Father and Son. Does your translation refer to the Holy Spirit as "the Holy Spirit" or just "holy spirit?"
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
Jesus to Mary Magdalene at JOHN 20:17..."I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God."
armageddon2419 2 years ago
Jesus, as the God/Man was here making a distinction between the Father and Himself. He is not the Father, He is the Word, the Son of God. Jesus did not lie to Mary. He said the truth to her. My belief is not anything different from Mary's belief or Jesus' belief.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
Jesus NEVER claimed to be GOD...NEVER.....
armageddon2419 2 years ago
What is I AM? I don't mean "I AM" in English, I mean "I AM" in Aramaic? Do you know the languages of the scriptures?
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
FUNNY how the Nation of Israel never worshipped their ONE, TRUE GOD as a trinity....QUESTION...?....When the MASTER, Jesus would pray for the strenth to glorify his father...., WHO WAS HE PRAYING TO...???...HIMSELF???
armageddon2419 2 years ago
Jesus Christ IS NOT God Almighty, nor part of a trinity...ALL THIS BUNK WAS STARTED at the Council of Nicea in 325 c.e.....hence, THE NICEAN CREED...and is nothing more than a SATANIC MAN-MADE DOCTRINE...JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD...AND THE 1ST OF GOD'S CREATIVE WORKS....BELIEVING IN A TRINITY OR THAT CHRIST IS GOD HIMSELF IS AS SILLY AS BELIEVING IN THE EVELOUTIONARY BUNK...
armageddon2419 2 years ago
Whoa!! What if the Nicea council just codified what was known and believed for a couple of hundred years before??
And I see that Colossians says that He, Jesus is the Creator. (1:16)
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
What a load of delusional crap!
wiskawind 2 years ago
How do you know?
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
Oh I didn't know for a long time as I was born a Christian, but I read the bible for myself at age 53, and that really opened my eyes to this bloodthirsty death cult from the desert.
Now I don't know for sure if there is a Creator or not, but I am sure that I will not bend another knee to that manufactured bloodthirsty bible deity!
wiskawind 2 years ago
Well, thanks for watching but I have to clarify. You were not born a Christian, no one is.
It is okay to not bow your head or knee but your earlier comment implied it is not true and you did not give any evidence to that effect.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
I don't believe it is true, and there isn't evidence to that effect!
wiskawind 2 years ago
You are right, there isn't evidence to that effect but there is evidence, biblical and historical, non-biblical evidence, that it is true.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
I was taught there is GOD and the WORD, and the WORD and GOD could not be separated!
Now I wouldnt have thought there would be any lies in the WORD of GOD, but after reading that bloodthirsty book and finding so many lies, I have decided it is the biggest scam ever ran on mankind!
If my family bible had not been passed down to me by my Mother, and had her hand writing in it, I would burn the damn thing on the junk heap!
wiskawind 2 years ago
What lies?
The Word refers to two concepts. Jesus was the Word of God and the collections of books is also called the word of God.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
Now let me see, so many lies so little time;how about Eve being made from Adam's rib? (smile)
We all know, and it has been proven that all fetuses begin as female and doesn't change into a male until a Y chromosome kicks in; so the male is an adaptation of the female and not the other way around. (smile)
wiskawind 2 years ago
If God did IT -- gee, i wish there were bolding capability -- then could have happened exactly that way. But, that is not a lie! I can't "prove" it happened and you can't "prove" that it did not.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
Fetuses: I am not up on my embryology but I don't know what that relates from the Bible.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
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dontknowwhatisgoing 2 years ago