If Albanians are decendants from Alexandar the Great why dont u than change the name of Albania into Macedonia and your nationlaity Albanians into Macedonians ?
I wouldn't say that all those ppl. from there are since Alexander the Great there, but sure some of them are. As of the words, I perfectly understood them before watching the video and I'm wondering, whether other languages could explain them aswell. These people are so fascinating and such a great example of what people did and where they moved thousands of years before.
@polarisreseau Rien de réaliste? Est-ce qu'il y a une autre langue qui pourrait expliquer ces mots? We know that (white) ppl. living in those places are since Alexander the Great there, which means they must have spoken an old language from the Balcans: either greek or Illyrian/albanian! Et pourqoui est-ce qu'elles infirment l'origine albanaise, si elles infirment celle des grecques? Les grecs et les albanais ne sont pas les mêmes!
caucasus Albania? lol ( the term (Albania) is coined about 4 centuries ago and the caucasus albania is something that existed in roman maps about 2000 years ago??? and you plonker, the whole of white Europeans descend from caucasus, there is not link or history that connects these two albanias together, if you can find me one please do so, otherwise go eat a porridge..
@1mPain MFAL GABOVA JO KALASH JON --->E-V13 PO PATHANET NE AFGANISTAN EDHE ATJE U KAN ALEKSANDRI! PO NDOSHTA EDHE KALASHET JON PAK A SHUM E-V13 EDHE J2
this is incorrect. Btw please dont claim that Alexander the Great was albanian if he would have been so he would have fought for Ilyria not macedonia its just rubbish. Its the same bullshit as when greeks claim that Gjergj Kastrioti was greek.
you are a spastic, listen to what hunza people say, if they are illyrian or macedonian or greek? THE HUNZA AND KALASH PEOPLE ARE MACEDONIANS, THEY SAY THEM SELVES. AND YOU ARE JUST LIKE GREEK IDIOT.
I'm Albanian and this video is STUPID....man let the Kalash people decide themselves if they are closer to greeks, illyrians or slavs....yeah it is true that words like, pamir, hunza, pushtan, and kalash have meanings in Albanian...but that doesn't mean kalash are albanian(illyrian) lol...kal=burn, kalaja=castle, kalesh=burning, kalaj=easy...but that doesn't make these people albanian(illyrian) let them decide themselves
The original double eagle came from Afghanistan, 1700 BC, long before the Byzantos. It is a representation of Pir Garuda, the great eagle- who carried the god Visnhnu of the Indo-Aryans
Is not new to us Peasgo-Illyrian the founders of Europe.
Greece without Plasgo-Illryrian-Abania History is like 120 year old lady with out teeth in her mouth....Pelasgo-Illyrian-Albania are the founder of Europe they build every thing good in Europe start from Athine, Aplonia, Constantinople, Venecia, Vatikan.With such a great man like Zeus, Alexander, Justrinian, Dioctetias and Constantine. Many of them you can find in the books of Aristidh Kola the European greatest historian of the time.
Im sure, that some of the northern people are related to Albanians.See a quote of an old Kashmiri King, can be read in a book of H. Kersten about an unconventional theory of Jesus: Aj, i ki nom e Jus o Asaf, meaning, "He, whose name is Jus or Asaf". Older Albanian could be. :Aj, i cillit emen (latin nomen) e Jus o Asaf" .
Anyhow, the best person is the one with best behaviour, no matter of nation..
kalash is an ethnic group with important Ydna L and also H of origin dravidian with nothing together with Greeks or Albanian, but the buruch of the region of the indukush has rates not negligible of Ydna R1b which meets in Pakistan, to Azery and Tajik and others, therefore they are two people different one of other one but they have nothing together with Greeks, Albanian and either from a distance or nearly.
I regret but I searched in touts dictionaries possible and seu basques have an answer as the word ' HUNTZA ' which means burushski ' the arrow ' there and in eushkara (Basque HUNTZA) means 'darkness ' in symbolic and real sense but can also indicate the fly-by-night (raven, owl) For Macedonien nothing found.
Doja vetem te shtoja se keta njerez kane edhe ngjashmeri ne tradita..ata adhurojne akoma perendite e lashtesise..zjarin dhe me duket edhe gjarprin..megjithse me duket se po me tradheton kujtesa..(duhet te theras Muzat) :) ,por qe gjenden edhe ne traditen shqiptare
@IbniVehbi ket perallen me mrekulli e din te gjith dhe ne don ta besosh per mua ska problem,por une te pyeta a e ke takuar ti ket zot sepse une nuk njoh ndonji njeri qe ta ket takuar.
actually there was a program about these people greek say they are greek but they aren't these are desendants of soldiers wich fought witha alexander the great. there was a program on dutch tv about 2 kalash studieing in bruxxel . then they met 2 albanians and they bought understoud eachother perfectly well
It would be better if you could bring out here the link of such program!
VELLA DO TE ISHTE MIRE SIKUR TA SILLJE LINKUN E ATIJ EMISIONI, PER SHKAK SE UNE JAM STUDIUES I LIDHJEVE HUNZAKO-SHQIPTARE. Nese mundesh me sjell ndonje material ne mesazh privat
@LuboteniALB I am sorry but I searched word ' HUNTZA ' in all possible languages alone basques and burushaski gives an answer but different. (Pakistani) burush i: huntza = The arrow (Basque) Eushkara: huntza = darkness (more in sense symbolic) But nothing at all with Macedonia.
Albanians are autochthonous in their lands. They are lineal descendants of Pelasgo-Illyrian people, because as we know from Ptolemey the Geographer, Albanians were one the Illyrians tribes peopled the western Macedonia. There is no historical evidence of any arrival of Albanians from Azerbaijan.The fact that there is also an Albania in Caucas says nothing because ALBANY is a very common name throughout Europe. The Albanians of Caucasus are commers from Thessaly as Tacitu said.
Albanian????,you guys are blind as fuck ! Greak Alexander was Illyrian, but these guys are not illyrians, they are rig-vedic and they were whiter than you cause they lived in colder climate, it was you that caused balkans people to go brown !
Make some research before you decide to open your mouth about a issue that you don't know!
I've presented a lot of proofs like literary records (Diodorus, Plutarch, Strabo) as a modern studies enhancing Illyrian-Macedonian substance of Hunzakuts. They admitted in their oral tradition that they are descendants of wandering solders of Alexander the Great.
is the same with our ancestors did. The legendary homeland (remembered by folk-songs of Kalash people) is called 'Tsiam' which is undoubtly 'Thyamis' river of Epirus, from which is derived the name of Cham and Chameria, is not?
Some XIX century researchers noticed that white people of Central Asia are of Illyro-Macedonian type. If you are interested, I can show you hundreds of proofs. Check it up the proffesional forum arberiaonline.
its a coincidence & there has always been a prescence of white people in Central Asiasince it was the true Aryan homeland.you are brainwashed no offense
This is your opinion. And as Dirty Harry said: 'Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one...most of them stink'. So, other times chose an another place of staying away from the rest of people because you stink as shit.
The colonization with Illyro-Macedonians is well-documented, but I do not consider you equal to talking with me.
Lets straight things: the relationship between Kalash-Hunza and Albanians is suggested by various scholars: Leitner, E.Skura, A.Kola, S.Lolja, L.Gjokaj, S.Mehmeti, etc. The modern scholarship accepted widely that are still alive the remains of Alexander's army. We know from Susa's marriages that more than 10,000 Illyro-Macedonian solders were married with Persian women in order to reinforce Illyrp-Macedonian domination of Asia
modern scholars believe they are descandants of Alexanders army as well as alexander himself who is ethnically Greek.if you think otherwise tell it to mainstream scholars & historybook publishers.also their language is related to Persian while ours is not
@LittleAlbania1 Where did I say that Albanian is related to Persian, eee? Burusho contains a lot of loans from Persian and this is understandable because it was affected heavily by Persian influence. But, however, Burusho still preserve its old substance which bears some similarities with Albanian. The ethnicity of Alexander is related to the ethnicity of Macedonians. The ethnicity of Macedonians was for sure not Greek. There are sufficient proofs that Macedonians were non-Greeks.
the Ancient Macedonians mixed in alittle with the Illryians so they have some Illyrian blood but mostly in culture,language & blood are related to Greeks cause they were Greeks & also they have nothing to do with Modern Fyromians
also thats not a opinion there have always been a presecence of Caucasians in Central Asia.a opinion would be Central Asia belongs to white people but all i said was that there was always a white community present in Central Asia
Where is the propaganda here? What do you call as propaganda?
I do not claim that Kalash are not a unique people, but what i considered as important is relationship between them and modern Albanians since all of us are the lineal descendants of Alexander the Great.
Albanian DNA & Kalash DNA are obviously different as well as Hunza DNA so yeah that is propaganda & also there is no relations between them & us other than were children of Aryans
There are no comparative study of DNA between Albanians and Kalashs, so we cannot guessing difference between Kalash and Albanians, based on personal observation. At least, the DNA not always tells the truth. The connection between two peoples are determined by linguistic and cultural factors. There are many linguistic concordances, as well as similarities in religion and costumes. The religion of Kalashas is just a 'relic' of Pelasgian religion of Dodona. The Gods and practice of adoring them
they forgot to add the mountains in afghanistan Torabora<Tu+Ra+Bora= which in Albanian means always snowing, if you really start to diecect history of the world it's alot of Albanian influence out there,but the greeks and the serbs are out to hide these facts
Buddy you know little. You have to learn much things you does not know still. MY advice to you is: learn western scholars, not Greek ones. Of course, there are some hypothesis trying to explain etymology of ancient Mac. with Greek but nothing is certain because a number of other toponomic words are explained by Thraco-Ilyrian. Even N.Hammond accepted that Macedonian contains many Illyrian words.
i know albanians, many of them have desi like facial features which is uncommon in white people. but albanians aren't all brown though. Like I'm a paki and i was mistakened for an albanian once :P
ChessPlayer you are 100% right! Pseudo-Greeks will go all the way to Pakistan in order to steal history. They have to do this otherwise the world would see their lies. A liar must always cover up the truth which would expose them as liars with lies. This is shameful and the truth.
I don't understand about your intention by mention in vague way of Athens and Sparta wars? Can you elaborate better? Macedonia is neither Slav, nor Greek.
MACEDONIA IS AS MIGHTY GOD CREATED IT: ESSENTIALLY ALBANIAN!
Macedonia is greek!???? Perhaps, in your dreams is Greek, but in reality it is essentially non-Greek. Macedonia is as Mighty God created: Pelasgian-Illyrian-Albanian.
Greece conquered with war Macedonia, but this does not mean that Macedonia is Greek.
""But of all the regions I have seen, the Arnaut seems to me the most particular. They are natives of Arnaoutlich, the ancient Macedonia, and still retain something of the courage and hardiness, though they have lost the name, of Macedonians.."
Letters from the Right Honourable Lady Mary Wortley Montagu. 1709 to 1762. Ed. By Ernest Rhys, Everyman's Library, Essays. London etc.1925, p. 109.
Alexander the Great must, according to these archaeologists, have spoken an ancient Albanian dialect at his riotous banquets with his Macedonian officers.
(~HISTORY OF THE GREEK REVOLUTION by GEORGE FINLAY PG.41)
hahahahahah all of these materials you posted here is nothing else but a copy-pasting of selective quotes taken out of content and context and give no conclusive proofs about ethnicity of ancient Macedonians. Macedonians were regarded as non-Greek and that is all.
Spare yourself by copy-pasting of nationalistic 'Greek' webs. You are clearly one-sided because you basis solely on historians who supporting Greek view about Macedonia. Why you did not mention for instance experts specialized on Macedonian history like Eugen Borza, E.Badian, A.Toynbee, U.Wilcken, etc?
"When we take into account the political conditions, religion and morals of the Macedonians, our conviction is strengthened that they were a Greek race and akin to the Dorians. Having stayed behind in the extreme north, they were unable to participate in the progressive civilization of the tribes which went further south."
"In the northwest, the peoples of Molossis (Epirot province), Orestis and Lynkestis spoke West Greek. It is also accepted that the Macedonians spoke a dialect of Greek and although they absorbed other groups into their territory, they were essentially Greeks."
("The Penguin Historical Atlas of Ancient Greece", Penguin Publishing USA, January 1997)
David George Hogarth, English archaeologist and scholar:
"From Alexander I, who rode to the Athenian pickets the night before Plataea and proclaimed himself to the generals their friend and a Greek, down to Amyntas, father of Philip, who joined forces with Lacedaemon in 382, the kings of Macedon bid for Greek support by being more Greek than the Greeks."
"Philip II of Macedonia (382-336 B.C.E.), father of Alexander the Great, unifier of Greece, author of Greeces first federal constitution, founder of the first territorial state with a centralized administrative structure in Europe, forger of the first Western national army, the first great general of the Greek imperial age, and dreamer of great dreams, was one of the greatest captains in the history of the West. "
What are u laughing like a fool! Instead of laughing you should crying because Myth of 'Greekness' of Macedonians is rejected by all scientific discoveries. Beside, ancient scholars who firmly consider Macedonians distinct from Greeks, there are many modern facts proof it. At leas, have a look at the survival solders of Alexander is Asia. Nothing Greek. Nothing. Nothing.
You are funny! Ok, you asked for it. I'll begin with the Greekness of ancient Macedonians, ancient sources:
Alexander I of Macedon, king of Macedon from 498 BC to 454 BC:
"Men of Athens... In truth I would not tell it to you if I did not care so much for all Greece; I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Greece change her freedom for slavery."
(From the speech of Alexander I of Macedon when he was admitted to the Olympic games, Herodotus, "Histories", 9.45)
Alexander the Great, king of Macedon, 356 BCE - 323 BCE:
"Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Greece and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you..."
(Alexander's letter to Persian king Darius in response to a truce plea, as quoted in "Anabasis Alexandri" by Roman historian Arrian, Book II, 14, 4)
mos te harrojme ketu edhe nje detaj tjeter qe e verteton fare mire kte "teori": DNA e shqiptareve te sotem eshte identike me ate te ketyre poullsive.
Kerkoni ne internet: Firasat et al. (2006), "Y-chromosomal evidence for a limited Greek contribution to the Pathan population of Pakistan", European Journal of Human Genetics 15: 121126, doi:10.1038/sj.ejhg.5201726.
Studjuesit e quajne gabimisht DNA greke dhe jo iliro/maqedone pasi propaganda e ka nxjerre Aleksandrin gjoja grek.
is terrific! the pakistani islamist are oppressing these ppl cos they are not muslims, abuse their rights everyday cos they are different and the funniest thing is greeks are building greek schools there! haha, these ppl are saying that greeks wanna greeconize us when we have nothing to do with them! they're interpreting their own history thru us, we are ancient Macedons, not greeks! shame on greece! they go as far as pakistan to steal history!
Urm hi thur Pathan here, this guy or one of his army are meant to be my ancestors...oh yes I'm Muslim and not oppressed in the least by Pakistanis when I visit the country. So please hooosh
shume te forte keta islamiket e vodhen fene nga cifutet duke i bere nji copy paste te thjeshte dhe tani po theren me cifutet per te njejtin Zot.
Duan te na bejne te besojme se SHQIPTARET jane islamike por kot lodhen SHQIPTARET jane vetem SHQIPETARE,fete jane vetem per mendjet e semura dhe te dobta,dhe ska as grek as arab as cifut te na beje ne te besojme zotat e tyre sepse ne kemi vetem 1 ZOT SHQIPERINE.te gjith do te shuhen vetem SHQIPTARI do te mbetet.
Hey guys, the topic here is not to talking about 'Middle Easterns' but for Hunzakuts/Pamirians and Kalashas. If you wana talk about 'Middle Eastern' please chose another video. This is not proper space to do this! Clear!
i don't care if these people have our roots, as far as im concerned i don't want anything to do with you middle easterners, albanians are not your friends, not your anything, we never liked u , dont like you and never will like you, ihate when u middle eastern vermon think u can call us muslim brethren, fucking rats,albania and kosova united only for albanians
Wow... such a brilliant defence of ur intelligence. Dude just shut up, u make our people look bad lol. I think you alone can drop the average albanian IQ by 5 points.
your not albanian you just pretend to be to influence others, why should i devevlop an arabic culture when i could keep my albanian culture, white hats, nice music, nice food, i dont want arabs anywhere near me as do most albanians we dont like arabs no matter what u say here
I'm not Albanian? First of all i didn't say ANYTHING about Arab culture, and for your information, retard, Persians are not Arab, they are just that...PERSIAN. Second of all faggot, my mother is from kote,vlore and my father is from Frakulla, fjeri. Judging people by race is called racism, and its absolutely stupid. Nobody told u to like Arabs or leave your culture. Your just spreading racism and hate, shame on you. Albanians are smarter than that, not to mention we think before we talk.
iranians aint no fucking persians, u ever been to iran i doubt it, 99 percent of them are dark and arabic looking, the persians were light skinned, the persians were literally destroyed, fuck those arabic rats , idontl ike middle easterners and neither do 99 percent of other albos, youre that 1 percent that no one cares about
Im not even going to comment on how STUPID it is to say Iranians are Arabs... but ok, i guess thats up to you. And for ur information 72% of Albanians identify themselves as Muslim. But the most important thing about what you just said... ALBOS?????? AHAHAHA the only albanians ive heard using that word are stupid little faggot gangster-wannabes who have not one single part of the Albanian culture in their lives. Where are u from "Albo"?
i fought and killed many serbs during the war, iranians are not persian, the ancient persians were light skinned, iranians today are dark skinned mongrols u haven't been to iran but i have, ugliest people i ever seen, your probably some dirty palestinian gypsy who pretends to be albo to get your islamic objectives passed down, death to islam, fuck arabs
Not sure what serbia had to do with this... and how ugly someone is dosnt have anything to do with it either. Your just a racist. I amready told you im from Fjeti u dum shit. All you do is throw racist comments around with no point or basis. Tell me what u have against Islam. I guess anyone can be a racist against Arabs, although 80% of muslims are not Arab, ur too stupid to realise that beneither racist hate... but what do u have againat Islam
haha, take ur muslim pride in mohamed's hairy stinky ass back to saudi arabia, u being a hardcore muslim pigshit NEVER makes u a descendant of Albanian's history, ur history DNA and all has started when turks fucked ur mother no longer than 2-3 centuries ago, go find ur dad in Istanbul u filthy terrorist!
My father was from fjeri, he died when I was 1 years old and is still buried in peshtan village. Out of all the things you say, not one of them has a serious point, only random insults about non scentical things like me being a turk, and because of that i should go to soudi arabia?...
You have yet to say one intelligent thing. Arn't you ashamed to call yourself Albanian? Is that what our people do? throw racist insults at people? Can't you use ur brain and come up with a real reason to hate me?
u proclaim urself Albanian, you have a profile on YouTube with a picture of a terrorist wrapped up in suicidal headscarf and it reads some shit in arabic! hup te qifsha ftyren se nuk qenke njeri ti kafshe pakistaneze!
Lol, first im a turk, than an arab, and now im pakistani. Boy, if only the whole world was as good at geography as you are. So tell me something, why do you think this buy is a terrorist? He covers his face and hes obviously form an arab country, given the letters. This defines him as a terrorist? do you know what the definition of the word "Terrorist" actually is? Lets really try and figure out what ur saying here, try to be mature and make real arguments, not throw nonsense insults at me.
I'm Pathan and my family have all the blonde hair blue eyes plae skin combos + my ancestors were from were that gene was found linking with greeks/ macs so ya something tells me your above logic fails.
well.. i already know that any race, color, gender can take Islam, by you saying u descend from Alexander's people, are muslim with blue eyes and blonde hair your stating: you have been there for millenia, you have embraced islam same as the majority of the population when islam spread in 5th century.
greeks are pakistanis, dark like them, you have to say Hellenes, which were white Europeans. in order for u to have a normal life u should embrace islam in an islamic country! no matter what
Albanians are not caucasian. Well mordern ones are because we have been in europe for so many thousands of years, but originally, Illyrians came from southern russia/northern Iran (essentially persan) from a group of migrating tribes mainly made up of "Belushy" people. They came up through southern russia and down from the bolcans in to the Greek penynsula. So when they say this land was theirs, it was ours loooong before. Fuck greeks :D
Totally error! Neither ancient Albanians nor modern are Caucasians! Albanians have nothing to do with Caucasus. So it's anti-historic this claim about allegedly 'relationship' between Albania and Albania region of Cacuasus. There is no a single proof to witness that Albanians came from Caucasus. History affor no any record about any arrival of Albanians in Balkan. Albanians as Illyrian tribes were authuthonous in Balkan since thousands and thousands of year.
Albanians are aborginal race in Europe, according to several scholars Albanians are the most ancient people in Europe; history and legends afford no record about any arrival of them in Europe; all vidences indicate about authochton element of Albanians. Albanians made up the mayority of Alexander's Army. All of them were Illyrians, Thracians and Macedonians. Albanians are the descedants of both of these populations.
Another thing that you say in this video is that Alexander ordered his army to marry 10,000 persian women, but Persian women at that time should have been in south of the country Iran, but the people that you are talking about here are in central Asia.
However I know that ancient Albians & ancient Iranians were of same root. In fact I heard Albanians celebrate first day of spring, & we celebrate it as our new yr, or many other things. But this Alexander argument doesn't add up in my opinion.
dddOdd,thanks for ur comment, though i don't agree at all whith it. Firstly, i don't say that Alexander ordered to marry 10.000 solders with persian women, but it is commonly said in every ancient or modern biographie about Alexander the Great. By the way, these womens could be persian womans because in Central Asia were some persian kingdom or provinces such as Sogdiana, Bactria etc etc. You mistaken when you mention that Albanians and Iranians have same root.
Hey LuboteniALB: Sogdiana & Bactaria were not Persian at time of Greek invasion, they were simply Iranian. The reason they speak Persian now is because of mass migration of Persians to north in time of Arab Invasion. Persians are a branch of Iranian people.
Also when I said Albanian & Iranians have the same root I was talking about Indo-European root.
Yup, we are white because of race mixing un eirope, but the first Illyrians are from a mix of persian/iranian tribes in northern iran/southern europe. Thay mainly consisted of Belushy people, which is still a common name in albania (Jim Belushy being the most famous). They migrated from up allong the steps of southern russia and down through the bolcans and into the greek peninsula, which is why Greece was once albania, even though the faggs in greece wont admit it they know its true :D
There is no a single evidence to support your imaginative claims. Can you find a modern western scholar supporting your thesis? I guess No. So you should stop your attempts to identify Albania with Albania of Cacuasus. This is just a coincidence. Such toponimes like Albania are found in many places for example the capital of U.S fderal State of New York called Albany and its inhabitants as Albanians. Should we starting with new claims that Albanians came from New York? lol...
OK :), i have a few sources, but let me gather them together for a week or 2. Ill get back to u when i have everything. Some of the places i saw the evidents on were books in school that i dont have with me now. Ill have to find a copy in a library or somewhere else.
Buddy I don't know if you ever heard of genetic studies or not, but the reason people develop fair skin is simply because of weather/nutrition & happens over thousands of years living in the same place. Another thing that you must know is that blue eyes/blonde hair is a light case of albinism.
even if what you say is true, u should know that most Iranians have fair skin, also many have coloured eyes. Unless all Iranians are Greek children(!!!) what you say cannot be true.
If you permit me to asking something you because your are the only one from Pamir that I know. Accordingly to all what I've read related with Pamiris, in Pamir living a lot of disticnt peoples with several origines. As I've read somwhere, only the whaki's people consider themselves as descedants of Alexander the Great. How is true this? Please, if you know much more in these issue, tell me!
All the people there are devided by language, but to have different origins? NO! We are all anciant Iranians! Nothing else. I also wanna tell you, that all the people, that live in the mopuntains have blondes, blue eyed, green eyed people! The people in Caucasus have lotta blondes! Wakhis are not the only one claim to be Alex's descenders, a lot of people claim! Yazghulamis, even my people! They don't look deep into history! They just say what other people say!
All the people there are devided by language, but to have different origins? NO! We are all anciant Iranians! Nothing else. I also wanna tell you, that all the people, that live in the mopuntains have blondes, blue eyed, green eyed people! The people in Caucasus have lotta blondes! Wakhis are not the only one claim to be Alex's descenders, a lot of people claim! Yazghulamis, even my people! They don't look deep into history! They just say what other people say!
and I guess people claim Wakhis to be Alexander's descenders, because Wakhi also live in Hunza. There is an interesting thing I read, one scientist claim that all the people came from the area where Pamir, Kashmir and Himalai is! I don't know how true that is! History is somethnig, that you don't trust 100%! Sometimes it tells you the truth, sometise it lies! Sometimes 50/50!
I met one Macedionian man, he knows about Pamirians, he told me that in Macedonia the dark haired people are more than the blonde haired people! Is that right???? If it is, than probably because of the gen domination.
Actually, in modern state of Macedonia living to disticnt peoples. Albanians predomintntly in western part and slavic peoples in other eastern side. As Henry Braisford a british ethnographer observed: 'Albanians are the most authothon race in Macedonia'. At generally, Albanians in mountain terrain are blond haired with blue eyed.
One more thing, If you think Pamirians were not blonde/red haired/ blue eyed/green eyed people before Alexander, you are mistaken! Coz Pamirians are Indo-European, old Iranian people, former Zoroastrians, which had more blonde than dark haired! It's strange, because now the blonde haired people only make about 20-30% of the population! Centuries ago, blondes were more than the others! Probably because the dark haired gen is stronger and dominant! It's fact.
Bro, there is no doubt we have Alex's blood, but hey, don't forget, our grandpa Cyrus The Great conquered up to Egypt, which means all the people living up to those countries have Iranian blood in them!
Hello, Pamirec long time no see. It's nice to see you again! In this video I just shown some general proves about similiarties between Albanians and burushos/kalashians and pamirians. Overmore, the biggest prove at all about Illyro-Macedonian ancestry of pamirians and burushos are marriages at Susa that are done in spring of 324 B.C when more than 10.000 illyro-macedonian solder were married with persian womans.
Is this all what you're able to do? Is your profession to saying stupidities? Sorry, but you did not shown any proofs to oppose these facts shown in this video.
Thanks you very much, my brother! I think that psychosis of Greek has no cure. Their ilness is incurable! They are harmed by Greek delirium to hellenize everything in the name of ancientness.
It is well known that Alexander's conquests delivered stability.
... Roxana, who was the daughter of an important...
... the Burusho people who live in ...
the Pamirian people (Wakhi) that live in Pamir, southern Tajikistan ...
Obviously these populations have distinct anthropological features of white race and their distinct costumes, traditions and religion are not shared by the other races of the region.
Let's present some incontestable proof of their relationship with modern Albanians
After the murder of Cleitus by Alexander the Great, almost 6000 illyrian soldiers ... [me tutje nevojitet nje saktesim: a jane detyruar keta ushtare ilire te vendosen ne Kafiristan apo kjo ka ndodhur me vete deshiren e tyre]
the Greek soldiers that had been settled in Bactria rose up in rebellion against the rest of Alexander's army. After Alexander's demise the Macedonians retaliated by killing over 3000 greek soldiers who had revolted before.
.. we must look at the ethnic composition of Alexander's army. It has been clearly described and made obvious by Arrian's accounts that the soldiers were mainly from macedonian, illyrian and thracian tribes...
If Albanians are decendants from Alexandar the Great why dont u than change the name of Albania into Macedonia and your nationlaity Albanians into Macedonians ?
pavel11483 1 month ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Wiligot 2 months ago
I wouldn't say that all those ppl. from there are since Alexander the Great there, but sure some of them are. As of the words, I perfectly understood them before watching the video and I'm wondering, whether other languages could explain them aswell. These people are so fascinating and such a great example of what people did and where they moved thousands of years before.
Dardenea006 3 months ago
" The men who marched to Babylon, Persia and India, were the ancestors of the ALBANIANS ". - Wadham PEACOCK -
GOLDMINE8 4 months ago
tout cela relève du délire, rien de réaliste ici.
Concernant les analyses génétiques, elles infirment l'origine grecque et donc aussi celle des albanais.
polarisreseau 5 months ago
@polarisreseau Rien de réaliste? Est-ce qu'il y a une autre langue qui pourrait expliquer ces mots? We know that (white) ppl. living in those places are since Alexander the Great there, which means they must have spoken an old language from the Balcans: either greek or Illyrian/albanian! Et pourqoui est-ce qu'elles infirment l'origine albanaise, si elles infirment celle des grecques? Les grecs et les albanais ne sont pas les mêmes!
Dardenea006 3 months ago
@papasmurfXXX
caucasus Albania? lol ( the term (Albania) is coined about 4 centuries ago and the caucasus albania is something that existed in roman maps about 2000 years ago??? and you plonker, the whole of white Europeans descend from caucasus, there is not link or history that connects these two albanias together, if you can find me one please do so, otherwise go eat a porridge..
chessplayer100 8 months ago
@1mPain MFAL GABOVA JO KALASH JON --->E-V13 PO PATHANET NE AFGANISTAN EDHE ATJE U KAN ALEKSANDRI! PO NDOSHTA EDHE KALASHET JON PAK A SHUM E-V13 EDHE J2
1mPain 10 months ago
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1mPain 10 months ago
this is incorrect. Btw please dont claim that Alexander the Great was albanian if he would have been so he would have fought for Ilyria not macedonia its just rubbish. Its the same bullshit as when greeks claim that Gjergj Kastrioti was greek.
1337yalla 10 months ago
you are a spastic, listen to what hunza people say, if they are illyrian or macedonian or greek? THE HUNZA AND KALASH PEOPLE ARE MACEDONIANS, THEY SAY THEM SELVES. AND YOU ARE JUST LIKE GREEK IDIOT.
makegoHuja 11 months ago
I'm Albanian and this video is STUPID....man let the Kalash people decide themselves if they are closer to greeks, illyrians or slavs....yeah it is true that words like, pamir, hunza, pushtan, and kalash have meanings in Albanian...but that doesn't mean kalash are albanian(illyrian) lol...kal=burn, kalaja=castle, kalesh=burning, kalaj=easy...but that doesn't make these people albanian(illyrian) let them decide themselves
FlorentinaIsl1 1 year ago
@FlorentinaIsl1 Shame on your people for this video.
Zorro11144 11 months ago
The original double eagle came from Afghanistan, 1700 BC, long before the Byzantos. It is a representation of Pir Garuda, the great eagle- who carried the god Visnhnu of the Indo-Aryans
IanHunedoara8 1 year ago
sad truth! great job bro. Much Luv
shigjeta1 1 year ago
Sad truth, great video, good job bro.
shigjeta1 1 year ago
Is not new to us Peasgo-Illyrian the founders of Europe.
Greece without Plasgo-Illryrian-Abania History is like 120 year old lady with out teeth in her mouth....Pelasgo-Illyrian-Albania are the founder of Europe they build every thing good in Europe start from Athine, Aplonia, Constantinople, Venecia, Vatikan.With such a great man like Zeus, Alexander, Justrinian, Dioctetias and Constantine. Many of them you can find in the books of Aristidh Kola the European greatest historian of the time.
petrit671 1 year ago
You should put the words at the bottom or somewhere easy to read, not over the images.
YllusTrim 1 year ago
@YllusTrim You're right. I'll try to make an another video with the same content. I promise that I will make it properly!
LuboteniALB 1 year ago
@LuboteniALB cool bro, cant wait to see it!
YllusTrim 1 year ago
Im sure, that some of the northern people are related to Albanians.See a quote of an old Kashmiri King, can be read in a book of H. Kersten about an unconventional theory of Jesus: Aj, i ki nom e Jus o Asaf, meaning, "He, whose name is Jus or Asaf". Older Albanian could be. :Aj, i cillit emen (latin nomen) e Jus o Asaf" .
Anyhow, the best person is the one with best behaviour, no matter of nation..
inkognitoo7 1 year ago
@LuboteniALB
kalash is an ethnic group with important Ydna L and also H of origin dravidian with nothing together with Greeks or Albanian, but the buruch of the region of the indukush has rates not negligible of Ydna R1b which meets in Pakistan, to Azery and Tajik and others, therefore they are two people different one of other one but they have nothing together with Greeks, Albanian and either from a distance or nearly.
polarisreseau 2 months ago
@papasmurfXXX
Haplogroupe Y in Albania
I2a_30 %
R1a_30 %
E1b1b_18 %
J2_17 %
R1b_5 %
polarisreseau 1 year ago
@papasmurfXXX
I regret but I searched in touts dictionaries possible and seu basques have an answer as the word ' HUNTZA ' which means burushski ' the arrow ' there and in eushkara (Basque HUNTZA) means 'darkness ' in symbolic and real sense but can also indicate the fly-by-night (raven, owl) For Macedonien nothing found.
polarisreseau 1 year ago
@papasmurfXXX
they also find alba (Alva Scottish province) and Alaba (Basque Alava province), in fact everything and the circus and the buffoons is possible!
polarisreseau 1 year ago
Doja vetem te shtoja se keta njerez kane edhe ngjashmeri ne tradita..ata adhurojne akoma perendite e lashtesise..zjarin dhe me duket edhe gjarprin..megjithse me duket se po me tradheton kujtesa..(duhet te theras Muzat) :) ,por qe gjenden edhe ne traditen shqiptare
djditii 1 year ago
Shume bukur e ke shpjeguar!
djditii 1 year ago
@IbniVehbi ti ke mendimin tend une kam timin.
per mua Shqiperise vec te keqia i kane ardh si nga zoti yt si nga zoti i kristianeve.
prandaj edhe sikur te egziztonte me te vertete une as dua tja degjoj emrin.
Po ti meqe qenke kaq i sigurt pse nuk e ke veshur akoma rripin e dinamitit cfar pret.
Kam degjuar se Bin Ladeni ju paguan mire plus ne xhehnet ju presin edhe 100 virgjeresha apo ke frike se si perballon dot?
erix177 1 year ago
@IbniVehbi po besoje mor shok spo te ndal kush,une per vete smund te besoj perrallat e arabit dhe te cifutit.
erix177 1 year ago
@IbniVehbi ket perallen me mrekulli e din te gjith dhe ne don ta besosh per mua ska problem,por une te pyeta a e ke takuar ti ket zot sepse une nuk njoh ndonji njeri qe ta ket takuar.
erix177 1 year ago
@IbniVehbi per cilin zot po flet?a e ke takuar ti ket zotin ndonjehere?
erix177 1 year ago
HAHAHA, stupid video.
First, you make Ilirians Albanians, that you make Macedonian Ilirians, thus Albanians, and than everything corresponding with them is Albanian!?
The way you've started, soon the Martians will turn out to be Albanians. :D
By the way, it's called Љуботен (Ljuboten), not Luboteni!
MacedonCollowrath 1 year ago
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Some one told me Illyrians were ancestors to indo-iranian people ........
and that dates along time ago.... like roughly 2 mileniums before alexander the great's birth,
papasmurfXXX 1 year ago
Some one told me Illyrians were ancestors to indo-iranian people ........
and that dates along time ago.... like roughly 2 mileniums before alexander the great's birth,
papasmurfXXX 1 year ago
actually there was a program about these people greek say they are greek but they aren't these are desendants of soldiers wich fought witha alexander the great. there was a program on dutch tv about 2 kalash studieing in bruxxel . then they met 2 albanians and they bought understoud eachother perfectly well
agon1984 1 year ago 3
@agon1984
It would be better if you could bring out here the link of such program!
VELLA DO TE ISHTE MIRE SIKUR TA SILLJE LINKUN E ATIJ EMISIONI, PER SHKAK SE UNE JAM STUDIUES I LIDHJEVE HUNZAKO-SHQIPTARE. Nese mundesh me sjell ndonje material ne mesazh privat
falemnderit!
LuboteniALB 1 year ago
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@LuboteniALB I am sorry but I searched word ' HUNTZA ' in all possible languages alone basques and burushaski gives an answer but different. (Pakistani) burush i: huntza = The arrow (Basque) Eushkara: huntza = darkness (more in sense symbolic) But nothing at all with Macedonia.
polarisreseau 1 year ago
FUCK ALEKSANDER
Alirezo3 1 year ago
luboten tlum goja koke burr ifort, tregoj tatarve se grekt e sodit nuk jan te vjetrit.
lellla100 1 year ago 5
@papasmurfXXX
Albanians are autochthonous in their lands. They are lineal descendants of Pelasgo-Illyrian people, because as we know from Ptolemey the Geographer, Albanians were one the Illyrians tribes peopled the western Macedonia. There is no historical evidence of any arrival of Albanians from Azerbaijan.The fact that there is also an Albania in Caucas says nothing because ALBANY is a very common name throughout Europe. The Albanians of Caucasus are commers from Thessaly as Tacitu said.
LuboteniALB 2 years ago 3
oh, now i get it, Albaan, Arbaan, Aryaan, Aryan...
but how does that explain the african admixture in today's paleo-balkans people ?
papasmurfXXX 2 years ago
@papasmurfXXX
Haplogroupe Y in Mazedonia
I2a 30 %
E1b1b 30 %
J2 20 %
R1a 12 %
R1b 4 %
G2 4%
polarisreseau 1 year ago
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Albanian????,you guys are blind as fuck ! Greak Alexander was Illyrian, but these guys are not illyrians, they are rig-vedic and they were whiter than you cause they lived in colder climate, it was you that caused balkans people to go brown !
BeamSurfer 2 years ago
@BeamSurfer
Make some research before you decide to open your mouth about a issue that you don't know!
I've presented a lot of proofs like literary records (Diodorus, Plutarch, Strabo) as a modern studies enhancing Illyrian-Macedonian substance of Hunzakuts. They admitted in their oral tradition that they are descendants of wandering solders of Alexander the Great.
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
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polarisreseau 1 year ago
is the same with our ancestors did. The legendary homeland (remembered by folk-songs of Kalash people) is called 'Tsiam' which is undoubtly 'Thyamis' river of Epirus, from which is derived the name of Cham and Chameria, is not?
Some XIX century researchers noticed that white people of Central Asia are of Illyro-Macedonian type. If you are interested, I can show you hundreds of proofs. Check it up the proffesional forum arberiaonline.
at history chapter.
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
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its a coincidence & there has always been a prescence of white people in Central Asiasince it was the true Aryan homeland.you are brainwashed no offense
LittleAlbania1 2 years ago
This is your opinion. And as Dirty Harry said: 'Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one...most of them stink'. So, other times chose an another place of staying away from the rest of people because you stink as shit.
The colonization with Illyro-Macedonians is well-documented, but I do not consider you equal to talking with me.
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
im below you cause i believe that Kalash & Hunza arent so related to us.i wonder what would happen if you tell it to a scholar or a geneologist
LittleAlbania1 2 years ago
Lets straight things: the relationship between Kalash-Hunza and Albanians is suggested by various scholars: Leitner, E.Skura, A.Kola, S.Lolja, L.Gjokaj, S.Mehmeti, etc. The modern scholarship accepted widely that are still alive the remains of Alexander's army. We know from Susa's marriages that more than 10,000 Illyro-Macedonian solders were married with Persian women in order to reinforce Illyrp-Macedonian domination of Asia
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
modern scholars believe they are descandants of Alexanders army as well as alexander himself who is ethnically Greek.if you think otherwise tell it to mainstream scholars & historybook publishers.also their language is related to Persian while ours is not
LittleAlbania1 2 years ago
@LittleAlbania1 Where did I say that Albanian is related to Persian, eee? Burusho contains a lot of loans from Persian and this is understandable because it was affected heavily by Persian influence. But, however, Burusho still preserve its old substance which bears some similarities with Albanian. The ethnicity of Alexander is related to the ethnicity of Macedonians. The ethnicity of Macedonians was for sure not Greek. There are sufficient proofs that Macedonians were non-Greeks.
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
the Ancient Macedonians mixed in alittle with the Illryians so they have some Illyrian blood but mostly in culture,language & blood are related to Greeks cause they were Greeks & also they have nothing to do with Modern Fyromians
LittleAlbania1 2 years ago
@LittleAlbania1
The Macedonians were essentially Illyrians, as Strabo indicated. But, their ruling class adopted Greek language and culture. That's all.
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
Ancient Macedonian DNA is mostly Greek & the remainder is Illyrian,Thracian & some other DNA's so no they arent actually Illyrians as you say
LittleAlbania1 2 years ago
also thats not a opinion there have always been a presecence of Caucasians in Central Asia.a opinion would be Central Asia belongs to white people but all i said was that there was always a white community present in Central Asia
LittleAlbania1 2 years ago
haha good proganda video.the Kalash are a unique people who are their own ethnic group
LittleAlbania1 2 years ago
@LittleAlbania1
Where is the propaganda here? What do you call as propaganda?
I do not claim that Kalash are not a unique people, but what i considered as important is relationship between them and modern Albanians since all of us are the lineal descendants of Alexander the Great.
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
Albanian DNA & Kalash DNA are obviously different as well as Hunza DNA so yeah that is propaganda & also there is no relations between them & us other than were children of Aryans
LittleAlbania1 2 years ago
There are no comparative study of DNA between Albanians and Kalashs, so we cannot guessing difference between Kalash and Albanians, based on personal observation. At least, the DNA not always tells the truth. The connection between two peoples are determined by linguistic and cultural factors. There are many linguistic concordances, as well as similarities in religion and costumes. The religion of Kalashas is just a 'relic' of Pelasgian religion of Dodona. The Gods and practice of adoring them
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
obviously us Albanians & the Kalash people arent so similar in culture & language.our languages are both Indo-European but not so similar
LittleAlbania1 2 years ago
Kalash are a ethnic group extremely different to our own so um yeah they are unique as well as distinct
LittleAlbania1 2 years ago
they forgot to add the mountains in afghanistan Torabora<Tu+Ra+Bora= which in Albanian means always snowing, if you really start to diecect history of the world it's alot of Albanian influence out there,but the greeks and the serbs are out to hide these facts
antongjoni 2 years ago 2
@enethaeros
Buddy you know little. You have to learn much things you does not know still. MY advice to you is: learn western scholars, not Greek ones. Of course, there are some hypothesis trying to explain etymology of ancient Mac. with Greek but nothing is certain because a number of other toponomic words are explained by Thraco-Ilyrian. Even N.Hammond accepted that Macedonian contains many Illyrian words.
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
i know albanians, many of them have desi like facial features which is uncommon in white people. but albanians aren't all brown though. Like I'm a paki and i was mistakened for an albanian once :P
papasmurfXXX 2 years ago
ChessPlayer you are 100% right! Pseudo-Greeks will go all the way to Pakistan in order to steal history. They have to do this otherwise the world would see their lies. A liar must always cover up the truth which would expose them as liars with lies. This is shameful and the truth.
braclet4 2 years ago 3
Hi, I just want to ask when can I find a dictionary of pamiri language or maybe a sitiweb (written in english and pamiri language)??
thank you
BrunaFier 2 years ago
Great video!**********
braclet4 2 years ago 3
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and sparti war athens and korinthos war athens and spari....... but all people is greek!!!! macedonia is greek fuck slav skopje.....
paok4kal 2 years ago
I don't understand about your intention by mention in vague way of Athens and Sparta wars? Can you elaborate better? Macedonia is neither Slav, nor Greek.
MACEDONIA IS AS MIGHTY GOD CREATED IT: ESSENTIALLY ALBANIAN!
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
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macedonia is greek :)
paok4kal 2 years ago
Macedonia is greek!???? Perhaps, in your dreams is Greek, but in reality it is essentially non-Greek. Macedonia is as Mighty God created: Pelasgian-Illyrian-Albanian.
Greece conquered with war Macedonia, but this does not mean that Macedonia is Greek.
Cheers
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
""But of all the regions I have seen, the Arnaut seems to me the most particular. They are natives of Arnaoutlich, the ancient Macedonia, and still retain something of the courage and hardiness, though they have lost the name, of Macedonians.."
Letters from the Right Honourable Lady Mary Wortley Montagu. 1709 to 1762. Ed. By Ernest Rhys, Everyman's Library, Essays. London etc.1925, p. 109.
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
"The men who marched to Babylon , Persia and India were the ancestors of the Albanians..."
- Wadham Peacock
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
Alexander the Great must, according to these archaeologists, have spoken an ancient Albanian dialect at his riotous banquets with his Macedonian officers.
(~HISTORY OF THE GREEK REVOLUTION by GEORGE FINLAY PG.41)
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
"Albanians. They are the direct descedants of the ancient Illyrians, Macedonians, Epirotes, the offspring of the Pelasgians..."
(The misionary review of the world Page 780)
...Arnauts, or Albanians, as lineal descendants of the Illyrians and Macedonians
(~Journal of the Royal Anthropological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland - Page 232, 1879)
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
I would like to present an expert about Macedonian history like Eugen Borza:
"Neither Greeks nor Macedonians considered the Macedonians to be Greeks."
"The tension at court between Greeks and Macedonians, tension that the ancient authors clearly recognized as ethnic division."
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
hahahahahah all of these materials you posted here is nothing else but a copy-pasting of selective quotes taken out of content and context and give no conclusive proofs about ethnicity of ancient Macedonians. Macedonians were regarded as non-Greek and that is all.
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
And please, keep the "fool" characterization for when you talk to your father. Mirupafshim!
MacedonianSoGreek 2 years ago
Spare yourself by copy-pasting of nationalistic 'Greek' webs. You are clearly one-sided because you basis solely on historians who supporting Greek view about Macedonia. Why you did not mention for instance experts specialized on Macedonian history like Eugen Borza, E.Badian, A.Toynbee, U.Wilcken, etc?
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
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Oh, please, be my guest! :)
MacedonianSoGreek 2 years ago
Ulrich Wilcken, German historian:
"When we take into account the political conditions, religion and morals of the Macedonians, our conviction is strengthened that they were a Greek race and akin to the Dorians. Having stayed behind in the extreme north, they were unable to participate in the progressive civilization of the tribes which went further south."
("Alexander the Great", p. 22)
MacedonianSoGreek 2 years ago
Robert Morkot, British historian:
"In the northwest, the peoples of Molossis (Epirot province), Orestis and Lynkestis spoke West Greek. It is also accepted that the Macedonians spoke a dialect of Greek and although they absorbed other groups into their territory, they were essentially Greeks."
("The Penguin Historical Atlas of Ancient Greece", Penguin Publishing USA, January 1997)
MacedonianSoGreek 2 years ago
David George Hogarth, English archaeologist and scholar:
"From Alexander I, who rode to the Athenian pickets the night before Plataea and proclaimed himself to the generals their friend and a Greek, down to Amyntas, father of Philip, who joined forces with Lacedaemon in 382, the kings of Macedon bid for Greek support by being more Greek than the Greeks."
("Philip and Alexander of Macedon", pp.9-10)
MacedonianSoGreek 2 years ago
David George Hogarth, English archaeologist and scholar:
"The king (of Macedon) was chief in the first instance of a race of plain-dwellers, who held themselves to be, like him, of Greek stock."
(Philip and Alexander of Macedon, p.8)
MacedonianSoGreek 2 years ago
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Richard A. Gabriel, U.S. historian:
"Philip II of Macedonia (382-336 B.C.E.), father of Alexander the Great, unifier of Greece, author of Greeces first federal constitution, founder of the first territorial state with a centralized administrative structure in Europe, forger of the first Western national army, the first great general of the Greek imperial age, and dreamer of great dreams, was one of the greatest captains in the history of the West. "
(Great Captains of Antiquity, p. 84)
MacedonianSoGreek 2 years ago
Hahahahahahahaaaa!!!
MacedonianSoGreek 2 years ago
What are u laughing like a fool! Instead of laughing you should crying because Myth of 'Greekness' of Macedonians is rejected by all scientific discoveries. Beside, ancient scholars who firmly consider Macedonians distinct from Greeks, there are many modern facts proof it. At leas, have a look at the survival solders of Alexander is Asia. Nothing Greek. Nothing. Nothing.
Cheers
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
You are funny! Ok, you asked for it. I'll begin with the Greekness of ancient Macedonians, ancient sources:
Alexander I of Macedon, king of Macedon from 498 BC to 454 BC:
"Men of Athens... In truth I would not tell it to you if I did not care so much for all Greece; I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Greece change her freedom for slavery."
(From the speech of Alexander I of Macedon when he was admitted to the Olympic games, Herodotus, "Histories", 9.45)
MacedonianSoGreek 2 years ago
Alexander I of Macedon, king of Macedon from 498 BCE to 454 BCE:
"Tell your king (Xerxes), who sent you, how his Greek viceroy of Macedonia has received you hospitably."
(Herodotus, Histories, 5.20.4, Loeb)
MacedonianSoGreek 2 years ago
Alexander the Great, king of Macedon, 356 BCE - 323 BCE:
"Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Greece and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you..."
(Alexander's letter to Persian king Darius in response to a truce plea, as quoted in "Anabasis Alexandri" by Roman historian Arrian, Book II, 14, 4)
MacedonianSoGreek 2 years ago
I know albanians, many of them look like desi people with lighter skin. They're also like somewhat italian....
BeamSurfer 2 years ago
mos te harrojme ketu edhe nje detaj tjeter qe e verteton fare mire kte "teori": DNA e shqiptareve te sotem eshte identike me ate te ketyre poullsive.
Kerkoni ne internet: Firasat et al. (2006), "Y-chromosomal evidence for a limited Greek contribution to the Pathan population of Pakistan", European Journal of Human Genetics 15: 121126, doi:10.1038/sj.ejhg.5201726.
Studjuesit e quajne gabimisht DNA greke dhe jo iliro/maqedone pasi propaganda e ka nxjerre Aleksandrin gjoja grek.
2bilderberg 2 years ago 2
Flm per kete video interesante!
Eantigoness 2 years ago
is terrific! the pakistani islamist are oppressing these ppl cos they are not muslims, abuse their rights everyday cos they are different and the funniest thing is greeks are building greek schools there! haha, these ppl are saying that greeks wanna greeconize us when we have nothing to do with them! they're interpreting their own history thru us, we are ancient Macedons, not greeks! shame on greece! they go as far as pakistan to steal history!
chessplayer100 2 years ago 3
Urm hi thur Pathan here, this guy or one of his army are meant to be my ancestors...oh yes I'm Muslim and not oppressed in the least by Pakistanis when I visit the country. So please hooosh
darkwispers 2 years ago
shume te forte keta islamiket e vodhen fene nga cifutet duke i bere nji copy paste te thjeshte dhe tani po theren me cifutet per te njejtin Zot.
Duan te na bejne te besojme se SHQIPTARET jane islamike por kot lodhen SHQIPTARET jane vetem SHQIPETARE,fete jane vetem per mendjet e semura dhe te dobta,dhe ska as grek as arab as cifut te na beje ne te besojme zotat e tyre sepse ne kemi vetem 1 ZOT SHQIPERINE.te gjith do te shuhen vetem SHQIPTARI do te mbetet.
erix177 2 years ago 3
Hey guys, the topic here is not to talking about 'Middle Easterns' but for Hunzakuts/Pamirians and Kalashas. If you wana talk about 'Middle Eastern' please chose another video. This is not proper space to do this! Clear!
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
i don't care if these people have our roots, as far as im concerned i don't want anything to do with you middle easterners, albanians are not your friends, not your anything, we never liked u , dont like you and never will like you, ihate when u middle eastern vermon think u can call us muslim brethren, fucking rats,albania and kosova united only for albanians
albaninasandina 2 years ago
you? Im from Albania dude... i dont know what middle easterner you are talking to...fucking dumass. lol
HezbAlih 2 years ago
fuck arabs
albaninasandina 2 years ago
Wow... such a brilliant defence of ur intelligence. Dude just shut up, u make our people look bad lol. I think you alone can drop the average albanian IQ by 5 points.
HezbAlih 2 years ago
your not albanian you just pretend to be to influence others, why should i devevlop an arabic culture when i could keep my albanian culture, white hats, nice music, nice food, i dont want arabs anywhere near me as do most albanians we dont like arabs no matter what u say here
albaninasandina 2 years ago 4
I'm not Albanian? First of all i didn't say ANYTHING about Arab culture, and for your information, retard, Persians are not Arab, they are just that...PERSIAN. Second of all faggot, my mother is from kote,vlore and my father is from Frakulla, fjeri. Judging people by race is called racism, and its absolutely stupid. Nobody told u to like Arabs or leave your culture. Your just spreading racism and hate, shame on you. Albanians are smarter than that, not to mention we think before we talk.
HezbAlih 2 years ago
iranians aint no fucking persians, u ever been to iran i doubt it, 99 percent of them are dark and arabic looking, the persians were light skinned, the persians were literally destroyed, fuck those arabic rats , idontl ike middle easterners and neither do 99 percent of other albos, youre that 1 percent that no one cares about
albaninasandina 2 years ago
Im not even going to comment on how STUPID it is to say Iranians are Arabs... but ok, i guess thats up to you. And for ur information 72% of Albanians identify themselves as Muslim. But the most important thing about what you just said... ALBOS?????? AHAHAHA the only albanians ive heard using that word are stupid little faggot gangster-wannabes who have not one single part of the Albanian culture in their lives. Where are u from "Albo"?
HezbAlih 2 years ago
i fought and killed many serbs during the war, iranians are not persian, the ancient persians were light skinned, iranians today are dark skinned mongrols u haven't been to iran but i have, ugliest people i ever seen, your probably some dirty palestinian gypsy who pretends to be albo to get your islamic objectives passed down, death to islam, fuck arabs
albaninasandina 2 years ago
Not sure what serbia had to do with this... and how ugly someone is dosnt have anything to do with it either. Your just a racist. I amready told you im from Fjeti u dum shit. All you do is throw racist comments around with no point or basis. Tell me what u have against Islam. I guess anyone can be a racist against Arabs, although 80% of muslims are not Arab, ur too stupid to realise that beneither racist hate... but what do u have againat Islam
HezbAlih 2 years ago
fuck off you muslim dogshit!!
chessplayer100 2 years ago
So im dogshit because i am a Muslim? lol
HezbAlih 2 years ago
haha, take ur muslim pride in mohamed's hairy stinky ass back to saudi arabia, u being a hardcore muslim pigshit NEVER makes u a descendant of Albanian's history, ur history DNA and all has started when turks fucked ur mother no longer than 2-3 centuries ago, go find ur dad in Istanbul u filthy terrorist!
chessplayer100 2 years ago
My father was from fjeri, he died when I was 1 years old and is still buried in peshtan village. Out of all the things you say, not one of them has a serious point, only random insults about non scentical things like me being a turk, and because of that i should go to soudi arabia?...
You have yet to say one intelligent thing. Arn't you ashamed to call yourself Albanian? Is that what our people do? throw racist insults at people? Can't you use ur brain and come up with a real reason to hate me?
HezbAlih 2 years ago
u proclaim urself Albanian, you have a profile on YouTube with a picture of a terrorist wrapped up in suicidal headscarf and it reads some shit in arabic! hup te qifsha ftyren se nuk qenke njeri ti kafshe pakistaneze!
chessplayer100 2 years ago
Lol, first im a turk, than an arab, and now im pakistani. Boy, if only the whole world was as good at geography as you are. So tell me something, why do you think this buy is a terrorist? He covers his face and hes obviously form an arab country, given the letters. This defines him as a terrorist? do you know what the definition of the word "Terrorist" actually is? Lets really try and figure out what ur saying here, try to be mature and make real arguments, not throw nonsense insults at me.
HezbAlih 2 years ago
Ti shqiptar? Ti je thejsht nje kurvar homseksual pa identitet!
Te dhjefsha trut e majmunit!
2bilderberg 2 years ago 2
I'm a Muslim.
I'm Pathan and my family have all the blonde hair blue eyes plae skin combos + my ancestors were from were that gene was found linking with greeks/ macs so ya something tells me your above logic fails.
darkwispers 2 years ago
well.. i already know that any race, color, gender can take Islam, by you saying u descend from Alexander's people, are muslim with blue eyes and blonde hair your stating: you have been there for millenia, you have embraced islam same as the majority of the population when islam spread in 5th century.
greeks are pakistanis, dark like them, you have to say Hellenes, which were white Europeans. in order for u to have a normal life u should embrace islam in an islamic country! no matter what
chessplayer100 2 years ago
last time i checked in a country like pakistan by not being muslim is not easy to live,
by being a muslim in a islamist country you cannot convert to any other faith,
u stating that u are a descendant of Alexander the great it makes u not asian, ( pakistani ) it makes u one maybe by religion,
i dnt know what theory ur talking about me! i am not gonna offer you my brotherhood, so stay faithful to musharaf
and the islamic nation of paki. proud idiot!
chessplayer100 2 years ago
@albaninasandina iranians are descendants of persians...you comment is based on racism, cause they are muslim.
FlorentinaIsl1 1 year ago
Albanians are not caucasian. Well mordern ones are because we have been in europe for so many thousands of years, but originally, Illyrians came from southern russia/northern Iran (essentially persan) from a group of migrating tribes mainly made up of "Belushy" people. They came up through southern russia and down from the bolcans in to the Greek penynsula. So when they say this land was theirs, it was ours loooong before. Fuck greeks :D
HezbAlih 2 years ago
Totally error! Neither ancient Albanians nor modern are Caucasians! Albanians have nothing to do with Caucasus. So it's anti-historic this claim about allegedly 'relationship' between Albania and Albania region of Cacuasus. There is no a single proof to witness that Albanians came from Caucasus. History affor no any record about any arrival of Albanians in Balkan. Albanians as Illyrian tribes were authuthonous in Balkan since thousands and thousands of year.
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
Albanians are aborginal race in Europe, according to several scholars Albanians are the most ancient people in Europe; history and legends afford no record about any arrival of them in Europe; all vidences indicate about authochton element of Albanians. Albanians made up the mayority of Alexander's Army. All of them were Illyrians, Thracians and Macedonians. Albanians are the descedants of both of these populations.
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
you are idiot, you put the map of bactria.
you know stupid that these lands called greco-bactria and kalash yunans(greeks)???
also macedonians didn't fight greeks but athenians, stop the propaganda moron.
also ask a kalash if he is yunan(greek) or not
mikegrecia 2 years ago
Another thing that you say in this video is that Alexander ordered his army to marry 10,000 persian women, but Persian women at that time should have been in south of the country Iran, but the people that you are talking about here are in central Asia.
However I know that ancient Albians & ancient Iranians were of same root. In fact I heard Albanians celebrate first day of spring, & we celebrate it as our new yr, or many other things. But this Alexander argument doesn't add up in my opinion.
ddd0dd 2 years ago
dddOdd,thanks for ur comment, though i don't agree at all whith it. Firstly, i don't say that Alexander ordered to marry 10.000 solders with persian women, but it is commonly said in every ancient or modern biographie about Alexander the Great. By the way, these womens could be persian womans because in Central Asia were some persian kingdom or provinces such as Sogdiana, Bactria etc etc. You mistaken when you mention that Albanians and Iranians have same root.
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
Hey LuboteniALB: Sogdiana & Bactaria were not Persian at time of Greek invasion, they were simply Iranian. The reason they speak Persian now is because of mass migration of Persians to north in time of Arab Invasion. Persians are a branch of Iranian people.
Also when I said Albanian & Iranians have the same root I was talking about Indo-European root.
ddd0dd 2 years ago
i don't blame Alexander the great for that...Persians girls are very very veryyyyyyyy pretty, and in iran they STILL are!
tina1988x 2 years ago
i like you comment:)
malsor44king 2 years ago
Yup, we are white because of race mixing un eirope, but the first Illyrians are from a mix of persian/iranian tribes in northern iran/southern europe. Thay mainly consisted of Belushy people, which is still a common name in albania (Jim Belushy being the most famous). They migrated from up allong the steps of southern russia and down through the bolcans and into the greek peninsula, which is why Greece was once albania, even though the faggs in greece wont admit it they know its true :D
HezbAlih 2 years ago
There is no a single evidence to support your imaginative claims. Can you find a modern western scholar supporting your thesis? I guess No. So you should stop your attempts to identify Albania with Albania of Cacuasus. This is just a coincidence. Such toponimes like Albania are found in many places for example the capital of U.S fderal State of New York called Albany and its inhabitants as Albanians. Should we starting with new claims that Albanians came from New York? lol...
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
You say you guess i cant find any evidents. So then if i show you the evidents for it what would you say?
HezbAlih 2 years ago
I am waiting with impatience your evidences...
I welcome all scientific evidences but it is very hard for you to find just a single proof supporting your claims.
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
OK :), i have a few sources, but let me gather them together for a week or 2. Ill get back to u when i have everything. Some of the places i saw the evidents on were books in school that i dont have with me now. Ill have to find a copy in a library or somewhere else.
HezbAlih 2 years ago
Buddy I don't know if you ever heard of genetic studies or not, but the reason people develop fair skin is simply because of weather/nutrition & happens over thousands of years living in the same place. Another thing that you must know is that blue eyes/blonde hair is a light case of albinism.
even if what you say is true, u should know that most Iranians have fair skin, also many have coloured eyes. Unless all Iranians are Greek children(!!!) what you say cannot be true.
ddd0dd 2 years ago
If you permit me to asking something you because your are the only one from Pamir that I know. Accordingly to all what I've read related with Pamiris, in Pamir living a lot of disticnt peoples with several origines. As I've read somwhere, only the whaki's people consider themselves as descedants of Alexander the Great. How is true this? Please, if you know much more in these issue, tell me!
Greeting from ALBANIA
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
All the people there are devided by language, but to have different origins? NO! We are all anciant Iranians! Nothing else. I also wanna tell you, that all the people, that live in the mopuntains have blondes, blue eyed, green eyed people! The people in Caucasus have lotta blondes! Wakhis are not the only one claim to be Alex's descenders, a lot of people claim! Yazghulamis, even my people! They don't look deep into history! They just say what other people say!
pamirec 2 years ago
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All the people there are devided by language, but to have different origins? NO! We are all anciant Iranians! Nothing else. I also wanna tell you, that all the people, that live in the mopuntains have blondes, blue eyed, green eyed people! The people in Caucasus have lotta blondes! Wakhis are not the only one claim to be Alex's descenders, a lot of people claim! Yazghulamis, even my people! They don't look deep into history! They just say what other people say!
pamirec 2 years ago
and I guess people claim Wakhis to be Alexander's descenders, because Wakhi also live in Hunza. There is an interesting thing I read, one scientist claim that all the people came from the area where Pamir, Kashmir and Himalai is! I don't know how true that is! History is somethnig, that you don't trust 100%! Sometimes it tells you the truth, sometise it lies! Sometimes 50/50!
pamirec 2 years ago
I met one Macedionian man, he knows about Pamirians, he told me that in Macedonia the dark haired people are more than the blonde haired people! Is that right???? If it is, than probably because of the gen domination.
pamirec 2 years ago
Actually, in modern state of Macedonia living to disticnt peoples. Albanians predomintntly in western part and slavic peoples in other eastern side. As Henry Braisford a british ethnographer observed: 'Albanians are the most authothon race in Macedonia'. At generally, Albanians in mountain terrain are blond haired with blue eyed.
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
One more thing, If you think Pamirians were not blonde/red haired/ blue eyed/green eyed people before Alexander, you are mistaken! Coz Pamirians are Indo-European, old Iranian people, former Zoroastrians, which had more blonde than dark haired! It's strange, because now the blonde haired people only make about 20-30% of the population! Centuries ago, blondes were more than the others! Probably because the dark haired gen is stronger and dominant! It's fact.
pamirec 2 years ago
Bro, there is no doubt we have Alex's blood, but hey, don't forget, our grandpa Cyrus The Great conquered up to Egypt, which means all the people living up to those countries have Iranian blood in them!
pamirec 2 years ago
Hello, Pamirec long time no see. It's nice to see you again! In this video I just shown some general proves about similiarties between Albanians and burushos/kalashians and pamirians. Overmore, the biggest prove at all about Illyro-Macedonian ancestry of pamirians and burushos are marriages at Susa that are done in spring of 324 B.C when more than 10.000 illyro-macedonian solder were married with persian womans.
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
Facts help us to analyse people of Hunza, Pamiri and Kalasha becouse they are albanians people. Not sllavic people..!!!!!!!!!!!!
ALBPelasgian 2 years ago
Is this all what you're able to do? Is your profession to saying stupidities? Sorry, but you did not shown any proofs to oppose these facts shown in this video.
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
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Typical embarrassing shit written by an Albanian child ...
GeoBBB123 2 years ago
Thanks you very much, my brother! I think that psychosis of Greek has no cure. Their ilness is incurable! They are harmed by Greek delirium to hellenize everything in the name of ancientness.
LuboteniALB 2 years ago
Terrific means good...
albansktiger 2 years ago 2
terrific video! The truth always prevails!
greekliersandthieves 2 years ago
It is well known that Alexander's conquests delivered stability.
... Roxana, who was the daughter of an important...
... the Burusho people who live in ...
the Pamirian people (Wakhi) that live in Pamir, southern Tajikistan ...
Obviously these populations have distinct anthropological features of white race and their distinct costumes, traditions and religion are not shared by the other races of the region.
Let's present some incontestable proof of their relationship with modern Albanians
arbervokrriks 2 years ago
After the murder of Cleitus by Alexander the Great, almost 6000 illyrian soldiers ... [me tutje nevojitet nje saktesim: a jane detyruar keta ushtare ilire te vendosen ne Kafiristan apo kjo ka ndodhur me vete deshiren e tyre]
arbervokrriks 2 years ago
[...] commanders of Alexander the Great. The Illyrian commander called Pito was appointed to be the ruler of the Great Media.
arbervokrriks 2 years ago
the Greek soldiers that had been settled in Bactria rose up in rebellion against the rest of Alexander's army. After Alexander's demise the Macedonians retaliated by killing over 3000 greek soldiers who had revolted before.
arbervokrriks 2 years ago
.. we must look at the ethnic composition of Alexander's army. It has been clearly described and made obvious by Arrian's accounts that the soldiers were mainly from macedonian, illyrian and thracian tribes...
arbervokrriks 2 years ago
This is a good video very good video,,,
albob1o2 2 years ago