WOW u were wrong. Francoeur has alot more potential. Are coaching staff took a different approach with Jeff than Atlanta did, and it has paid off. Church had no power was nothing special at all and Francouer is a WAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY better addition for either team. And Church was a free agent and probably would've left new york anyway. He left Atlanta.
i don't know if anybody said it or not but that dude is a gamer...that dude yes strikes out a shit load so everybody on the lineup does that wwright ,bay but we need tough s.o.b on the team....church like he's name was holy love the guy i reall really do but he's a nice guy that can't touch a base lol
Francoeur ended 09 season with average of .280, 15 HRs, 76 RBIs
Church ended 09 season with average of .273, only 4 HRs, and only 40 RBIs
Francoeur has significantly improved while Church has well, stayed average.
slj lets be mature about it man
Francoeur has a lot of more potential after this season and will be coming back from surgery due to a hand injury so we will have to see how the next season goes...
Francoeur is overall a better pick than church, especially after 09 stats
true....time will tell. I do like Church, but I like this trade. Franceuor hit over 100 RBIs in two seasons, Church has not and probably will never do that. Church is a 15/75/.290 guy at best. I remember watching Franceour get all kinds of big hits in 2006 and 2007 and wishing the mets had him..maybe a 100 RBI year once is a fluke, but he did it twice. In short, Franceuor has a bigger upside, even though he has struggled for a while before joining the mets.
Not in my opinion when you consider that Franceour has played MORE games than Church. On a worse team meaning that his offense with Atlanta was more vital where as Church had no pressure .
he hits way more then church..ever since church got hurt in the middle half of 08 hes never been the same he can hit as he did in the past i think it was a good trade for both teams but it makes the mets a better team cuz the braves can live with church the mets cant we need a RF who can hit and frenchy can atleast hit
As a Braves fan I like this deal. But I also think that the Mets may benefit as well. I've always liked Ryan Church. And this deal is one where if you're not winning you have to do SOMETHING and both teams did what they had to do. Frenchy has a great arm in right field. Not many people run on a flyball that's not at the track to Frenchy. We also lose his luck underwear that were 7-0 last I heard. lol. But sucks for the Mets in that he swings at EVERY first pitch and strikes out a TON! Good luck.
to be honest i dont know how it makes sense of either side. it almost seems like they made the trade just to make one so they shake things up just a little but who knows.
yeah but i think we should just wait it out, untill august.. we will forsure (hopefully) have everyone back plus billy wagner and if we stay 5 or 6 games back we'll have a chance come playoff time
You are incorrect about the strikeouts as Franceour has 104 more than Church
I might also add that Franceour's had TWO 100 RBI seasons and that his WORST number (in this category 71 (2008) is BETTER THAN Church's BEST 70 (2007)
well in hell would we (braves) trade with the mets,.....a team in the NL east??!!!??
i can just see it now, church gets hurt and francouer gets his swing back. i mean the NL east may not be the strongest division but there are 4 teams that are still pretty close. but oh well we'll see i quess.
Dude i agree on the numbers facts.However what you do have is a great great defender.There wont be alot of runners going to 3rd.I guess you havent watched Francour play.I like Church.Next week Atl Mets at Braves.We are gonna kick your ASS.
Francoeur is an absolute stud in the field and his bat should be catching up. I think he needed a change of scenery and going to New York should be good for his development.
This trade blows... I also like Ryan as a player and the Mets never gave him a chance at all. You knew that Jerry did not like him as well as Omar... I cannot think of why he would pull off a deal like this
looked that way but frenchie really stepped it up
27Mets27 1 year ago
WOW u were wrong. Francoeur has alot more potential. Are coaching staff took a different approach with Jeff than Atlanta did, and it has paid off. Church had no power was nothing special at all and Francouer is a WAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY better addition for either team. And Church was a free agent and probably would've left new york anyway. He left Atlanta.
2rad008 1 year ago
The man was wrong, nobody was perfect.
NJTank 1 year ago
Francoeur is way more talented.
jastimmel72 2 years ago
i don't know if anybody said it or not but that dude is a gamer...that dude yes strikes out a shit load so everybody on the lineup does that wwright ,bay but we need tough s.o.b on the team....church like he's name was holy love the guy i reall really do but he's a nice guy that can't touch a base lol
Haitianpbh 2 years ago
Francoeur ended 09 season with average of .280, 15 HRs, 76 RBIs
Church ended 09 season with average of .273, only 4 HRs, and only 40 RBIs
Francoeur has significantly improved while Church has well, stayed average.
slj lets be mature about it man
Francoeur has a lot of more potential after this season and will be coming back from surgery due to a hand injury so we will have to see how the next season goes...
Francoeur is overall a better pick than church, especially after 09 stats
ljmccoy047 2 years ago
true....time will tell. I do like Church, but I like this trade. Franceuor hit over 100 RBIs in two seasons, Church has not and probably will never do that. Church is a 15/75/.290 guy at best. I remember watching Franceour get all kinds of big hits in 2006 and 2007 and wishing the mets had him..maybe a 100 RBI year once is a fluke, but he did it twice. In short, Franceuor has a bigger upside, even though he has struggled for a while before joining the mets.
steinwayzap 2 years ago
you're right
slj1216 2 years ago
Franceour with Mets- .327 3 HR 16 RBI
Church- .200 1 HR 3 RBI
EAT IT!
slj1216 2 years ago
i did not like the trade with church for franceour...ill take church anyday over frenchy...
mitchellrose 2 years ago
pedro got signed by the phillies u shuld make a video on that
poinone 2 years ago
Not in my opinion when you consider that Franceour has played MORE games than Church. On a worse team meaning that his offense with Atlanta was more vital where as Church had no pressure .
ND7652 2 years ago
he hits way more then church..ever since church got hurt in the middle half of 08 hes never been the same he can hit as he did in the past i think it was a good trade for both teams but it makes the mets a better team cuz the braves can live with church the mets cant we need a RF who can hit and frenchy can atleast hit
poinone 2 years ago
Now for more stats Church's numbers are First followed by Franceour's I'll only use the stats since Church has been a MET
RBI: 71 / 107
Hits: 153 / 221
Triples: 1 / 5
Doubles: 30 / 45
Runs: 80 / 102
Walks :50 / 51
ND7652 2 years ago
Forgot HR : Church's stats first
14 / 16
IMO: This could be one of Minaya's better trades
ND7652 2 years ago
Could you describe what Striking out a "ton" means ?
Here are the Strikeout Numbers since Church has been a Met :119 Francoeur 158 Difference 41
ND7652 2 years ago
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ND7652 2 years ago
I agree with the video poster, as a Braves fan I'm like really what the heck?
salebowwow 2 years ago
review:
Frenchy = is inconsistent and gets in lot of struggles. Benefit: great arm.
Church= hasnt played full time RF. Benefit= consistent and doesnt strike out much.
Advantage - Braves
cangri1788 2 years ago
As a Braves fan I like this deal. But I also think that the Mets may benefit as well. I've always liked Ryan Church. And this deal is one where if you're not winning you have to do SOMETHING and both teams did what they had to do. Frenchy has a great arm in right field. Not many people run on a flyball that's not at the track to Frenchy. We also lose his luck underwear that were 7-0 last I heard. lol. But sucks for the Mets in that he swings at EVERY first pitch and strikes out a TON! Good luck.
carolinafan005 2 years ago
he'll be around longer
letsgoMets2009SNY 2 years ago
to be honest i dont know how it makes sense of either side. it almost seems like they made the trade just to make one so they shake things up just a little but who knows.
Drockpujols 2 years ago
yeah but i think we should just wait it out, untill august.. we will forsure (hopefully) have everyone back plus billy wagner and if we stay 5 or 6 games back we'll have a chance come playoff time
nineforone941 2 years ago
francueor has not been good since he got off the juice
NYMNYJ22 2 years ago
koop, why so negative? i actually liked the trade, francouer has a great arm and he's younger. And we all know manuel hated church
letsgoMets2009SNY 2 years ago
You are incorrect about the strikeouts as Franceour has 104 more than Church
I might also add that Franceour's had TWO 100 RBI seasons and that his WORST number (in this category 71 (2008) is BETTER THAN Church's BEST 70 (2007)
ND7652 2 years ago
Go to the cbs sports Braves message boards most of the fans there Hate the trade
ND7652 2 years ago
well in hell would we (braves) trade with the mets,.....a team in the NL east??!!!??
i can just see it now, church gets hurt and francouer gets his swing back. i mean the NL east may not be the strongest division but there are 4 teams that are still pretty close. but oh well we'll see i quess.
porkinwitz 2 years ago
Dude i agree on the numbers facts.However what you do have is a great great defender.There wont be alot of runners going to 3rd.I guess you havent watched Francour play.I like Church.Next week Atl Mets at Braves.We are gonna kick your ASS.
outgoing37 2 years ago
i think it was a good trade, francoeur has a rocket of an arm and is younger than church.. it was a very random trade but i believe time will tell
nineforone941 2 years ago
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Time will tell.
tommy2chips 2 years ago
Time will tell.
tommy2chips 2 years ago
Francoeur is an absolute stud in the field and his bat should be catching up. I think he needed a change of scenery and going to New York should be good for his development.
Caniacforever 2 years ago
i liked church he was a tough player n he knew how to play the game right..a big loss but hopefully frenchie can play well
tstrongmets20 2 years ago
i liked church!
great hitter and good arm in the field
gonblott 2 years ago
This trade blows... I also like Ryan as a player and the Mets never gave him a chance at all. You knew that Jerry did not like him as well as Omar... I cannot think of why he would pull off a deal like this
liljoey95 2 years ago