The nazis science and tech were top notch (the Nazis did well until...) they couldn't keep up with the Allied war effort, materials, production effort. As with the japs, they were overwhelmed. The allies overwhelmed the nazis by their numbers (as well as hitler being a poor tactician) and the nazis did not review battle history. With regards to the Americans, Patton did know history and used it.
It's good that they wasted their resources on these and other worthless weapons. I don't think Germans living today wish that the NAZIs had won the war. In fact, I'm sure they wish their parents had thrown Hitler in prison for life while he was still a nobody.
@deezynar Wasted their resources... Far from it. They learned loads and developed more during the war than even the Allies. Your just a bitter jew who uses the Holocaust as the eternal crutch and anti semitism as the weapon. Blow it out your kike ass.
@fox123456789ish i'm not sure if that is a statement or a question. As the Dora Gun was the Landkruzer 1000 I was talking about the Landkruzer 1500 which had two guns of that size and had caterpillar tracks but never made it past the drawing board.
@MrCommentcritic they made 2 the first never saw combat and was disassembled. the soviet union found the parts and kept them for a while before destroying them. The second- the dora gun saw combat but briefly as it was only used to shoot over the english channel to low up bunkers on the other side. great model
@Shuttheheckup735 They had this gun completely built and ready for combat before the end of the war. Another gun of the same design had been built and used successfuly during the war. They had actually begun construction on a third gun before the war ended, this is the one you may be refering to.
@AdamSavage88 30 meters - no :) It's not A-bomb. Ammunition storage need to capture. Because resources are not unlimited for besiegers too. If current storage is unreachable then its coordinate will be unknown.
@tla123456 I owe you nothing. I come from Sweden. And I know that so called german influence also stemmed from my own country. And what you referre to as german in the regions you mention, there is more but the german knowledge. Germany based a lot of weaponry on earlier inventions, and by the time of the occupations and war, copying captured armaments from russia. KW V is an illusive example. Nonetheless - occupied technology and knowledge were assimilated into german war-industry.
@anneloev In reference go your comment about occupied technology, a prime example was the Czech made Mausers under occupation, those are some of the finest examples and highly sought after by collectors.......I know I own two ;-)
@tla123456 How do you logically conclude that Bohemia, Moravia and Silesia would necessarily have stopped evolving from the middle ages on if it wasn't for "German" influence?
@MysticWhizz know u asked 5 months ago but im gonna answer anyways..it was made for shelling the maginot line in france..but it was not needed since they passed the line.. think those guns fired a total of 30-40 shells
you're all a loada stupid misinformed fucks....Germany was waaaaay out-numbered by allied forces so they had no choice but to build massive machines to compensate
@zyklonb1488SS actually, since hitler was such a commie dictator, he almost forced people into the wehrmecht... there special forces regiment (waffen SS) had more than a million people in it... the size of the united states army. that was just their special forces tho, germany has a massive population for their size, and with so many people, they had a hugeass army. the fact is, this is comparable to the german tiger tank, and modern german cars. tiger-hugeass, powerful. cars-fancy... just sayin
@Mw2kingv2 And letting people making it without pay and killing them if they aren´t producing enough and stealing resources from other countries because they´re not of the right breed? And what is it today? Technology based on knowledge from a terrorist regime? Say - many so called german inventions dealing with auto-industry were made in Czechia, Skoda-werke, and has nothing to do with german quality or quantity. And it it al leaps on. The german Trabant shows us german quality also!
@Mw2kingv2 Yes...quality over quantity....look at all of their weapons..look at their cars...everything from German...after visting Munich, would like to live there someday....
First of all, Amazing 3d rendering whoever did this. 2nd, Yea, this gun kicks ass... its huge, its powerful, its awesome. 3rd, its COMPLETELY useless. Think of the Brainpower, industrial manhours, resources, crew, one of a kind tools/training it took to build this behemoth. I guess its a good siege weapon but you would need complete air supremecy. How many tanks did they not build so they could have this Wunder Gun?
@kevrs2 One was captured by US forces and destroyed the other was destroyed to prevent the Soviets from acquiring it. They were the only two built. Dora and Gustav.
Crazy yes, but not useless! Verzeihung aber den Rest muss ich auf deutsch schreiben :D Mein Englisch ist nämlich nicht das Beste^^ Alleine schon die Tatsache, dass der Feind so ein Monstergeschütz besitzt erfüllt wahrscheinlich den Gegner in Angst und Schrecken. Ich hätte DORA zu gern in echt gesehen!!!!!
the germans did have the better tanks thats a given and all we had were shermans,but thats what the P51's and P47's were good for the german tanks really didnt hold up to those..
You forget that the Tiger's topside turret armor was also its weakest (excluding perhaps the underbelly armor). A single strafing run needed just one hit on either the engine, the ammo storage, the fuel storage or the turret to completely disable the vehicle or send it into a mighty fireball.
The Engine of anykind of tank does not recive cooling by having a thin top armor.
They use water coolers along with fan's to cool the engine.
the only german tanks which had overheating issues were the King Tiger, but that was mostly becaus it was rushed to the frontlines without extensive testing.
However, drivers of the KT could fast learn how to avoid the overheating.
M2HB (effectively the same weapon used on the P-47) is able to penetrate 8mm of steel plating at 250 meters using ball ammunition(AP). Definitely a 'Oh my!' moment as 250 meters is 273 yards, it appears that the guns of Allied aircraft were set for only 250 yards and that this is the maximum range of strafing runs.
In other words, the 50.cal would not even reliably pierce the Pz IV roof armor.
I once again recommend that you sould look up facts before spreading innacurate statements.
Alright alright you seem to know a lot about tanks and I have no love for German tanks, merely most Allied ones. I seem to be failing this arguement though I do not have a great desire to comfirm what you said since like I said I dislike Tigers and King Tigers with a passion.
Thank you for the complement. I dislike Tigers not because they fought for Germany, but because I think they were not the powerhouses some people make them to be. They were slow and expensive and their parts were hard to both produce and replicate. To be fair, I do believe that some hate came from the fact they fought for the Nazis.
Correct me if im wrong. But didnt the French employ Panthers and Tigers after the war for them? I thought that little discussion that you and Miratesus were having about Tigers was interesting
After the war. No one was interested in war, they were too busy paying back their loans and economy loss. From what I gather, they are most probably only confiscated those tanks but didn't really use them or had any intention of using them. I'd much rather see a mint condition Panther or Tiger right now than anything else though. Same goes for the Pershing.
Thank you for the complement. I dislike Tigers not because they fought for Germany, but because I think they were not the powerhouses some people make them to be. They were slow and expensive and their parts were hard to both produce and replicate. To be fair, I do believe that some hate came from the fact they fought for the Nazis.
Well let me tell you if you have a disdain for German tanks then you are no lover of tanks indeed. Allied tanks were cheap, thinly armored, lightly armed pieces of junk. German tank commanders such as Michael Wittman used their machines to rape allied armored divisions
@pajiad191 actually, american Shermans were designed to fight lighter tanks, like the panzer 4. they do rather well in that actually. when the tanks rolled into Europe tho, the Germans moved on to the bigger tanks. so the Americans just designed a tank for a tank that was no longer its no1 enemy
Just because I dislike a certain group of tanks it makes me that? I dislike them because everyone else loves them so much. The tanks your talking about are probably not actually meant for tank on tank warfare, like say the Jagdpanther, immune to most bullets but not to shells they were. But they improved, for example, the Pershing.
one thing you forgot to minchin is that alliad tanks where RELIABLE!! the german tanks broke down alot and where fuel hungary. and what the american tanks failed in over all fire power and armor they made up for in huge numbers and reliablity. you cant argue that a tank thats not running cuz its engine os to small for its huge size cant be a better tank
Ok, I completely understand your argument about reliability or whatever. Thats what all these Allied apologists rave about. But lets just say that if you can choose a WW2 tank to be in when you're about to get hit with a 88mm flak shell, I'd take the German tank over ANY allied tank because its just a better quality product. American tanks never broke down because they didn't last long enough to be repaired.
Not really. Late war M4s saw action in both WWII, Korea and Vietnam (Used by the SK forces), and quite a few nations continued to use them until the mid sixties, if nothing else then in reserve units. Similarly, some of the British tanks build just before the end of WWII saw action in Vietnam.
Alright alright you seem to know a lot about tanks and I have no love for German tanks, merely most Allied ones. I seem to be failing this arguement though I do not have a great desire to comfirm what you said since like I said I dislike Tigers and King Tigers with a passion.
You forget that the Tiger's topside turret armor was also its weakest (excluding perhaps the underbelly armor). A single strafing run needed just one hit on either the engine, the ammo storage, the fuel storage or the turret to completely disable the vehicle or send it into a mighty fireball.
its incredible. imagine standing on front of something like this. so big. you would be like omggg.!!! daaaamn!! the tracks were just so it could move around a little bit. double tracks
Yes, also, in the beginning, Hitler gave the task of vehicle making to furniture makers and the like, which didn't have the machinery or the knowledge to make tanks, only later did they start to go towards car makers like Porsche and Mercedes, which is why only 1350+ tigers were made, as opposed to the 50,000+ Shermans, and also, those guns are meant as mobile siege guns, like the gustav, they were big bore guns like 31in and 26 in, the round weighed more than 3 cars and could level a city block
Debatable; the Germans lacked the cannonfodder (population) the entire world (whom they practically fought against) had. You know what was our strat for fighting ktigers in our shermans right? Send 3-4 so that at least 1 of the shermans has time to flank the tiger and take it out. i.e. 2-3 tigers were expected to be lost at a minimum when facing a tiger.
True; that's what it got down to. People who try to pin point the cause of Germany's loss in WWII should remember the air war hitler waged v london, instead of mistakingly claiming it was having attacking russia. Had hitler not lost the veteran pilots over Britain for not even a Pyhrric victory, he'd have more to possibly even block the Normandy invasion. Imagine: hitler having veterans to fly ME 262s and cover the ktigers; KTiger + jet-powered ME 262s v shermans + propellor-driven mustangs.
Yes, the Luftwaffe was within a few weeks of effectively finishing off the RAF when Hitler decided to play a game of payback and started to bomb the cities rather than the airfields and radar installations.
Btw, you might find it interesting that the ONLY successful aerial recon. by the Luftwaffe over Normandy was by a lone Arado Ar-234 jet.
( totally avoided interception)
Gathered much needed intelligence for the Wehrmacht/Waffen SS, but by then the battle was already lost.
I think invading Russia and then having a go at the Americans at the same time had a lot to do with the nazis failure during ww2. I think if the whole world had ganged up together at the time they would struggle to beat the americans and russians together
You know what our official strategy for fighting tigers were? Avoiding them altogether, Shermans moved nearly twice as fast. The Mobile AT guns and tank hunters doctrine were specially made to fight tanks. The Shermans were meant for infantry support, but could engage tanks in a pinch or with the name Firefly attached.
Lol; Think we're 2nd grade students with no curiosity? From the convos you might have read, I'm sure you will have surmised that we were the 4th graders questioning calling the 'Boston massacre' a massacre when only about a handful died. Of course we avoided the KT's just like a child whom is never told that touching fire hurts will only remember to avoid it after having touched it; we suffered large casualties initially (Look at stats). Firefly tanks? Those were brit 17lb mod that we rejected!
I know exactly what the firefly was and the feeling of national pride to install a foreign gun in your country's tank. It was due to this I would say dumb belief on dividing your forces between infantry support vehicles and tank destroyers that prevented the hybrids that could do both well.
The M26 Pershing Heavy tank. Its just a really dumb tactic to send 4 Shermans to "try" and defeat one Tiger when a single tank could or AT gun could do it.
Problem w/ AT guns is they are slow and cumbersome. You have to remember especially in hedgerows, we were playing against the Germans in THEIR home turf. Try moving an AT gun to a known kt position (you know its there after loosing tanks) when you have various panzer infantry using 'secret' paths through the hedgerows to outmaneuver our infantry; we were pressed against a wall w/ a sword to our face. As someone else mentioned; what saved our troops was our airforce that simply ignored the mazes.
I have due respect for the Allied airforce. Which was a vital part of both victories in the european and pacific theater. We still have the M10 Wolverine or the M18 Hellcat to take down the KTs (few as they were)
No need to get upset. I was merely trying to mention what the USA's doctrine was during that time.
Yes and that doctrine failed terribly, also the Firefly's appeared too late, and were still not very effective, they were slow to reload, and had to aim the turret straight forward to reload due to the gun being to big for the turret.
If it failed as miserably as you have mentioned, then the Generals wouldn't have been so half arsed to send in the Pershing wouldn't you think? The Tank hunter doctrine back then were more than capable of defeating the German armor while the Hellcat and Wolverine were mobile enough to engage its weakspot even though their gun was more powerful than the 75mm. The Firefly may have had those problems, but it is usually the first shot that decides tank duels.
the brits and Americans only fought 18% of the Wehrmacht, the rest was on the east front, that is why they were not forced to fix their lacking aspects.
By the time of the D-Day landings, 4 of 5 german soldiers that ever died during the war was already dead.
A good example is Operation Market Garden, where the Allied encountered a true german offensive, which sadly for the germans halted due to the massive lack of resources.
yes, but germany couldnt use their full power against russia such as Lufwaffe and Submarine. Germany sent troops from africa and and france. USA supported UdSSR with ressources. because Sovjets wouldnt win without this help, Russian wouldnt win withoum Commowealtl and USA and USA and CM wouldnt win without UdSSR. UdSSR used Blood, Brits airplanes and USA ressources.
If it failed as miserably as you have mentioned, then the Generals wouldn't have been so half arsed to send in the Pershing wouldn't you think? The Tank hunter doctrine back then were more than capable of defeating the German armor while the Hellcat and Wolverine were mobile enough to engage its weakspot even though their gun was more powerful than the 75mm. The Firefly may have had those problems, but it is usually the first shot that decides tank duels.
They did movie it on railways, it was one of the derivitives for the modern term of "rail-gun," although obviously people use it incorrectly nowa days. Russians didn't have one as effective but they wanted a long range weapon like this one. The Germans would fire this thing from France, accross the English Channel. It was amazing, and beyond deadly.
mate, this gun only fired at the UK's ammo barges which were litteraly under the sea. and rail gun comes from the fact that you have 2 rails charged with a charge oposite to that of the projectile.
"Didn't the German army use a railway gun, to pound the south coast of England during the Battle of Britain?"
^^ They did indeed fire shells 26 miles across the English channel ( most of which landed harmlessly in fields ). We returned fire with our own artillerly, in what became probably the most long-range artillery battle in history.
Hitler used slave-labour to build MEGA long-range artillery ( type "V3 England canon" ) which, thank God, were destroyed before they could be unleashed.
Oh shit run
not well if it was the real one then ya you should run
thecodphein467 3 days ago
I did not permit YouTube to alow the posting of a video of a small modle of a huge ass gun designed after my Johnson
therumble32 2 weeks ago
Oh no baby Jaguar is stuck on top of that long tube *BOOOM* *goes deaf*
skullenbonez 1 month ago
thats why we almost never go out on war a big gun of something will attack us then to
perfectworldseekeer 1 month ago
The nazis science and tech were top notch (the Nazis did well until...) they couldn't keep up with the Allied war effort, materials, production effort. As with the japs, they were overwhelmed. The allies overwhelmed the nazis by their numbers (as well as hitler being a poor tactician) and the nazis did not review battle history. With regards to the Americans, Patton did know history and used it.
johhniespeed 2 months ago
dora cant explore that
sepultura930 2 months ago
It's good that they wasted their resources on these and other worthless weapons. I don't think Germans living today wish that the NAZIs had won the war. In fact, I'm sure they wish their parents had thrown Hitler in prison for life while he was still a nobody.
deezynar 4 months ago
@deezynar Wasted their resources... Far from it. They learned loads and developed more during the war than even the Allies. Your just a bitter jew who uses the Holocaust as the eternal crutch and anti semitism as the weapon. Blow it out your kike ass.
4shacks1house 2 months ago
It's a shame they never even tried making the bigger one that was going to designed to go on land.
williamm911 5 months ago
@williamm911 it was on land
fox123456789ish 4 months ago
@fox123456789ish i'm not sure if that is a statement or a question. As the Dora Gun was the Landkruzer 1000 I was talking about the Landkruzer 1500 which had two guns of that size and had caterpillar tracks but never made it past the drawing board.
williamm911 4 months ago
I want it so bad !
luckymaan123 5 months ago
I want it,I want it,I want it !
luckymaan123 5 months ago
humans over all!
Rickmyster6st 5 months ago
800mm
Stormchaserda18th 5 months ago
no the real thing
fox123456789ish 5 months ago
@fox123456789ish I beleive the real thing was blown up on a sabotage mission, but it'd be cool if it were still around.
MrCommentcritic 5 months ago
@MrCommentcritic no it was to heavy for the ground so it sank in the mud and they disassembled it
haarstad88 5 months ago
@MrCommentcritic they made 2 the first never saw combat and was disassembled. the soviet union found the parts and kept them for a while before destroying them. The second- the dora gun saw combat but briefly as it was only used to shoot over the english channel to low up bunkers on the other side. great model
fox123456789ish 4 months ago
this gun was a waste of manpower and materials
fox123456789ish 7 months ago
@fox123456789ish This gun?
planetofthescums 5 months ago
I have one of these kits and its just sitting in my closet unbuilt lmfao. I haven't even bothered opening the boxes
yumaokamoto 8 months ago
fucking awesome!! is it 1/72?
kostas3211 8 months ago
@kostas3211 not reading description much?
Wolftemplar7 8 months ago in playlist armée
@Wolftemplar7 no! hahahahahahaha!
kostas3211 8 months ago
And they wanted to put this gun on a tank???? I'm ok with that.
Canadianvoice 9 months ago
@Canadianvoice The tank weighed 1.5 kilotonnes. Or 1,500 tonnes, Or 1,500,000 kilograms, or 3,000,000 pounds, Yep.
ADOLF HITLER WAS SMOKIN' 844 DIFFERENT TYPES OF DRUGS WHEN HE APPROVED THAT TANK XD
He actually approved the design, they were about 1/10 of the way done when the war ended :/
Shuttheheckup735 9 months ago
@Shuttheheckup735 They had this gun completely built and ready for combat before the end of the war. Another gun of the same design had been built and used successfuly during the war. They had actually begun construction on a third gun before the war ended, this is the one you may be refering to.
planetofthescums 5 months ago
@Shuttheheckup735 no they actually did build the gun... 2 actually. although one never saw combat.
fox123456789ish 4 months ago
@fox123456789ish No shit the guns were finished, I am talking about the P-1500 Monster Artillery tank with this gun.
Shuttheheckup735 4 months ago
how big was the fucking shell?? probably bigger than a elephant
lsb3340 10 months ago
@AdamSavage88 30 meters - no :) It's not A-bomb. Ammunition storage need to capture. Because resources are not unlimited for besiegers too. If current storage is unreachable then its coordinate will be unknown.
nRADRUS 10 months ago
yes ,it ran on 2railways track .
ericskyung 10 months ago 4
@ericskyung it ran on 8
wolfenstien1000 6 months ago
@ericskyung it ran on 4, sorry
wolfenstien1000 6 months ago
Did this run on 2 railways next to eachother?
TheShylan 10 months ago
Dear Santa...
MrH4rper 10 months ago 2
LP2 Railway Gun!
Mephyblef 10 months ago
This should be used again to stop africans from reaching europe
Borovickar 11 months ago
Overcompensating much?
Deradundrum 11 months ago
LOL even chuck norris can call that thing GUN!
OnniKing 11 months ago
@tla123456 I owe you nothing. I come from Sweden. And I know that so called german influence also stemmed from my own country. And what you referre to as german in the regions you mention, there is more but the german knowledge. Germany based a lot of weaponry on earlier inventions, and by the time of the occupations and war, copying captured armaments from russia. KW V is an illusive example. Nonetheless - occupied technology and knowledge were assimilated into german war-industry.
anneloev 11 months ago
@anneloev In reference go your comment about occupied technology, a prime example was the Czech made Mausers under occupation, those are some of the finest examples and highly sought after by collectors.......I know I own two ;-)
fjcaron 9 months ago
they now godzilla is ready to destroy naziland
gojiraboy 1 year ago
@tla123456 How do you logically conclude that Bohemia, Moravia and Silesia would necessarily have stopped evolving from the middle ages on if it wasn't for "German" influence?
Gonnakillyou 1 year ago
hmmmm.... we need a bigger gun
ZuKahta 1 year ago
oh germans!,praise the masters of engineering!
rod3067 1 year ago
one little hand grenade in ammo dump and everything goes to hell. :)
Buljahato 1 year ago
chuck norris would use that as a straw
Robinshaug 1 year ago
what was this actually designed to shoot at? could it shoot other cities from comfortably within the german border?
MysticWhizz 1 year ago
@MysticWhizz know u asked 5 months ago but im gonna answer anyways..it was made for shelling the maginot line in france..but it was not needed since they passed the line.. think those guns fired a total of 30-40 shells
rollar84 9 months ago
@MysticWhizz it was designed to shoot over the English channel at bunkers and yes, could shoot at cities from within the german border.
fox123456789ish 4 months ago
this is the biggest gun ever built with the name "Sschwerer Gustav"
IIAndersII 1 year ago
That was a real life world war 2 german railway gun
origionalwinja 1 year ago 5
thats prolly will shoot aliens only ...
XSoly 1 year ago
I think i'd rather have 100 88 's out of that steel
broworm1 1 year ago 2
you're all a loada stupid misinformed fucks....Germany was waaaaay out-numbered by allied forces so they had no choice but to build massive machines to compensate
zyklonb1488SS 1 year ago
@zyklonb1488SS actually, since hitler was such a commie dictator, he almost forced people into the wehrmecht... there special forces regiment (waffen SS) had more than a million people in it... the size of the united states army. that was just their special forces tho, germany has a massive population for their size, and with so many people, they had a hugeass army. the fact is, this is comparable to the german tiger tank, and modern german cars. tiger-hugeass, powerful. cars-fancy... just sayin
Mw2kingv2 1 year ago
@Mw2kingv2 and that is because germans prefer quality over quantity
Mw2kingv2 1 year ago 42
@Mw2kingv2 And letting people making it without pay and killing them if they aren´t producing enough and stealing resources from other countries because they´re not of the right breed? And what is it today? Technology based on knowledge from a terrorist regime? Say - many so called german inventions dealing with auto-industry were made in Czechia, Skoda-werke, and has nothing to do with german quality or quantity. And it it al leaps on. The german Trabant shows us german quality also!
anneloev 1 year ago
@Mw2kingv2 Yes...quality over quantity....look at all of their weapons..look at their cars...everything from German...after visting Munich, would like to live there someday....
1963Austria 6 months ago
@Mw2kingv2 and look at how successful they are|!
IRememberTheOldDays 2 weeks ago
We definitely need more of those to kill each other with.
VileMisanthropy 1 year ago
@VileMisanthropy near is where you where safer it couldnt possibly target very close to itself
firestone334 1 year ago
i was gonna make one of these but i took a crap instead.
0714boskittles 1 year ago
i think it can go under the sea because it si very big
MrBlackromance 1 year ago
Military space cannon on a massive ship?:P
SpartanG61 1 year ago
thats a rude awakining.
hoy455 1 year ago
First of all, Amazing 3d rendering whoever did this. 2nd, Yea, this gun kicks ass... its huge, its powerful, its awesome. 3rd, its COMPLETELY useless. Think of the Brainpower, industrial manhours, resources, crew, one of a kind tools/training it took to build this behemoth. I guess its a good siege weapon but you would need complete air supremecy. How many tanks did they not build so they could have this Wunder Gun?
baldilox219 1 year ago
@baldilox219 Think of how many people would have dared getting near this thing
AzyrenIshida 1 year ago
Dora the explorer!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol
TeeJay21740 1 year ago 2
We have the russians to thank for that these guns didnt become to "stadard" in the german army -.-
pwnagewhattha 1 year ago
This proves that Aliens exist!!! Hitler knew that and made this Cannon to fight Aliens on Mars :-):-)
prashantkarade 1 year ago
thats stupid you will need a giant speed boatto at least turn around or they should make one that spins in a circular motion
bklynzlildevil91 1 year ago
do any of these survive to this day
kevrs2 1 year ago
@kevrs2 One was captured by US forces and destroyed the other was destroyed to prevent the Soviets from acquiring it. They were the only two built. Dora and Gustav.
ivnuzi 1 year ago
Crazy yes, but not useless! Verzeihung aber den Rest muss ich auf deutsch schreiben :D Mein Englisch ist nämlich nicht das Beste^^ Alleine schon die Tatsache, dass der Feind so ein Monstergeschütz besitzt erfüllt wahrscheinlich den Gegner in Angst und Schrecken. Ich hätte DORA zu gern in echt gesehen!!!!!
Hackegrape 1 year ago
imagine dora being transported by smaller transporting ship haha
B10h4zz4rd0005 1 year ago
shit
smash451 1 year ago
Uhh, that is a, uhm... how do I put this, big.
Jameslh605 1 year ago 3
@Jameslh605 That's what she said ;]
dnangelfan24 1 year ago
for the resources and manpower that went into this useless gun Germany could have fielded another panzer division.
bdockett 2 years ago
@bdockett Well, you know what they say, the bigger, the better(thats what she said)
emiliolocura2 1 year ago
wtf thats an alterily or nuclear cannon?
WhArKieDx 2 years ago
@WhArKieDx Just artillery
GoodSmackUp 2 years ago
that was a siege gun the Germans used in Russia.
LeMousqueteerBleu 2 years ago
wAAAAw :D
WhArKieDx 2 years ago
say hello to there little friend lol
jfhgksjdhfkthe2nd 2 years ago
tankbatles
in ww2 each side had theyre own tactics
german tanks were the best but to expensive for those times
dontmakemeMAD1990 2 years ago
symbol of useless crazyness
nRADRUS 2 years ago 36
@nRADRUS Symbol of technical masterpiece.
Eregeth 1 year ago
@nRADRUS
when u want to take over the world u need stuff like this
novideoshere1 1 year ago
@nRADRUS Hitler didn't need this thing to prove he was crazy and useless, but yeah you're right.
Deradundrum 11 months ago
5 Schuss hat die nur abgefeuert und wurde nur einmal im Kampf eingesetzt.
grundunger96 2 years ago
the germans did have the better tanks thats a given and all we had were shermans,but thats what the P51's and P47's were good for the german tanks really didnt hold up to those..
ghostpony61 2 years ago
a P-51 had to hit a Tiger tank with a bomb.. = a feat that most pilots were never going to achive.
Miratesus 2 years ago
You forget that the Tiger's topside turret armor was also its weakest (excluding perhaps the underbelly armor). A single strafing run needed just one hit on either the engine, the ammo storage, the fuel storage or the turret to completely disable the vehicle or send it into a mighty fireball.
bluechipi 2 years ago
The top and bottom armour was 25 mm (1 in) thick; from March 1944 the turret roof was thickened to 40 mm.
A 50 cal used by a P47 or 51 would not penetrate that, not even the 25mm over the Engine and Fuel compartments.
Miratesus 2 years ago
If the engine compartments were completely covered by 25 mm armor, then I fear for the poor overheating engine.
bluechipi 2 years ago
The Engine of anykind of tank does not recive cooling by having a thin top armor.
They use water coolers along with fan's to cool the engine.
the only german tanks which had overheating issues were the King Tiger, but that was mostly becaus it was rushed to the frontlines without extensive testing.
However, drivers of the KT could fast learn how to avoid the overheating.
Miratesus 2 years ago
Sorry for the double post, but it has been proven that .50 cal can penetrate 25mm of steel.
bluechipi 2 years ago
M2HB (effectively the same weapon used on the P-47) is able to penetrate 8mm of steel plating at 250 meters using ball ammunition(AP). Definitely a 'Oh my!' moment as 250 meters is 273 yards, it appears that the guns of Allied aircraft were set for only 250 yards and that this is the maximum range of strafing runs.
In other words, the 50.cal would not even reliably pierce the Pz IV roof armor.
I once again recommend that you sould look up facts before spreading innacurate statements.
Miratesus 2 years ago
Alright alright you seem to know a lot about tanks and I have no love for German tanks, merely most Allied ones. I seem to be failing this arguement though I do not have a great desire to comfirm what you said since like I said I dislike Tigers and King Tigers with a passion.
bluechipi 2 years ago
Hey, you just grew immensly in my eyes, you have not resorted to swearing or insulting during our conversation, and that is really good.
Its quite rare for people on Youtube to admit if they were wrong, or so.
But you do, and that is worth alot.
I hope you keep your intterest for tanks and WW2, also all history.
However, may i ask why you dislike the Tigers? is it becaus they fought for nazi germany or something else?
Miratesus 2 years ago
Thank you for the complement. I dislike Tigers not because they fought for Germany, but because I think they were not the powerhouses some people make them to be. They were slow and expensive and their parts were hard to both produce and replicate. To be fair, I do believe that some hate came from the fact they fought for the Nazis.
bluechipi 2 years ago
Correct me if im wrong. But didnt the French employ Panthers and Tigers after the war for them? I thought that little discussion that you and Miratesus were having about Tigers was interesting
zachisaac357 2 years ago
After the war. No one was interested in war, they were too busy paying back their loans and economy loss. From what I gather, they are most probably only confiscated those tanks but didn't really use them or had any intention of using them. I'd much rather see a mint condition Panther or Tiger right now than anything else though. Same goes for the Pershing.
bluechipi 2 years ago
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Thank you for the complement. I dislike Tigers not because they fought for Germany, but because I think they were not the powerhouses some people make them to be. They were slow and expensive and their parts were hard to both produce and replicate. To be fair, I do believe that some hate came from the fact they fought for the Nazis.
bluechipi 2 years ago
Well let me tell you if you have a disdain for German tanks then you are no lover of tanks indeed. Allied tanks were cheap, thinly armored, lightly armed pieces of junk. German tank commanders such as Michael Wittman used their machines to rape allied armored divisions
pajiad191 2 years ago
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anyway T-34 was better that Pzkpf II, III, IV.
And then why have you lost single tank battles? why thin junk armour wouldn't be beaten by your tank guns. And your tanks went up in flames?
DanLapko 2 years ago
cuz of airforce and huge numbers boy. not all versions of t34 were better then a Pzkpf IV, depending on the version as well. u cant generalize
PzAufklaerer12Btl 2 years ago
@pajiad191 actually, american Shermans were designed to fight lighter tanks, like the panzer 4. they do rather well in that actually. when the tanks rolled into Europe tho, the Germans moved on to the bigger tanks. so the Americans just designed a tank for a tank that was no longer its no1 enemy
fanofCOH 2 years ago
Just because I dislike a certain group of tanks it makes me that? I dislike them because everyone else loves them so much. The tanks your talking about are probably not actually meant for tank on tank warfare, like say the Jagdpanther, immune to most bullets but not to shells they were. But they improved, for example, the Pershing.
bluechipi 2 years ago
one thing you forgot to minchin is that alliad tanks where RELIABLE!! the german tanks broke down alot and where fuel hungary. and what the american tanks failed in over all fire power and armor they made up for in huge numbers and reliablity. you cant argue that a tank thats not running cuz its engine os to small for its huge size cant be a better tank
apairon2 2 years ago
Ok, I completely understand your argument about reliability or whatever. Thats what all these Allied apologists rave about. But lets just say that if you can choose a WW2 tank to be in when you're about to get hit with a 88mm flak shell, I'd take the German tank over ANY allied tank because its just a better quality product. American tanks never broke down because they didn't last long enough to be repaired.
pajiad191 2 years ago
@pajiad191
right
american tanks were called "tommy cooker"
if a American tank fought a German tank..........German would win...yet German tanks were costly...so to little were made.........
.and German product quality still stands today
captinseperoth 2 years ago
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Not really. Late war M4s saw action in both WWII, Korea and Vietnam (Used by the SK forces), and quite a few nations continued to use them until the mid sixties, if nothing else then in reserve units. Similarly, some of the British tanks build just before the end of WWII saw action in Vietnam.
chrthiel 1 year ago
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Alright alright you seem to know a lot about tanks and I have no love for German tanks, merely most Allied ones. I seem to be failing this arguement though I do not have a great desire to comfirm what you said since like I said I dislike Tigers and King Tigers with a passion.
bluechipi 2 years ago
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You forget that the Tiger's topside turret armor was also its weakest (excluding perhaps the underbelly armor). A single strafing run needed just one hit on either the engine, the ammo storage, the fuel storage or the turret to completely disable the vehicle or send it into a mighty fireball.
bluechipi 2 years ago
its incredible. imagine standing on front of something like this. so big. you would be like omggg.!!! daaaamn!! the tracks were just so it could move around a little bit. double tracks
exploringtv 2 years ago
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Tisk tisk, the Germans only wanted big guns and thick armor which is one of the many reasons they lost.
grim967 2 years ago
Yes, also, in the beginning, Hitler gave the task of vehicle making to furniture makers and the like, which didn't have the machinery or the knowledge to make tanks, only later did they start to go towards car makers like Porsche and Mercedes, which is why only 1350+ tigers were made, as opposed to the 50,000+ Shermans, and also, those guns are meant as mobile siege guns, like the gustav, they were big bore guns like 31in and 26 in, the round weighed more than 3 cars and could level a city block
763pilot 2 years ago
Debatable; the Germans lacked the cannonfodder (population) the entire world (whom they practically fought against) had. You know what was our strat for fighting ktigers in our shermans right? Send 3-4 so that at least 1 of the shermans has time to flank the tiger and take it out. i.e. 2-3 tigers were expected to be lost at a minimum when facing a tiger.
PonsXAsinorum 2 years ago
Winning by attrition. You can only pull this off when you control what is getting to the news media.
Imagine for a moment embedded reporters watching Shermans getting blown away by a few Panzers.
We could build thousands more M-4's but what of the crews and their next of kin?
Without our 99% air superiority, the Panzers would have had us for lunch.
rampking1 2 years ago
True; that's what it got down to. People who try to pin point the cause of Germany's loss in WWII should remember the air war hitler waged v london, instead of mistakingly claiming it was having attacking russia. Had hitler not lost the veteran pilots over Britain for not even a Pyhrric victory, he'd have more to possibly even block the Normandy invasion. Imagine: hitler having veterans to fly ME 262s and cover the ktigers; KTiger + jet-powered ME 262s v shermans + propellor-driven mustangs.
PonsXAsinorum 2 years ago
Yes, the Luftwaffe was within a few weeks of effectively finishing off the RAF when Hitler decided to play a game of payback and started to bomb the cities rather than the airfields and radar installations.
Btw, you might find it interesting that the ONLY successful aerial recon. by the Luftwaffe over Normandy was by a lone Arado Ar-234 jet.
( totally avoided interception)
Gathered much needed intelligence for the Wehrmacht/Waffen SS, but by then the battle was already lost.
rampking1 2 years ago
I think invading Russia and then having a go at the Americans at the same time had a lot to do with the nazis failure during ww2. I think if the whole world had ganged up together at the time they would struggle to beat the americans and russians together
dromcarra 2 years ago
You know what our official strategy for fighting tigers were? Avoiding them altogether, Shermans moved nearly twice as fast. The Mobile AT guns and tank hunters doctrine were specially made to fight tanks. The Shermans were meant for infantry support, but could engage tanks in a pinch or with the name Firefly attached.
bluechipi 2 years ago
Lol; Think we're 2nd grade students with no curiosity? From the convos you might have read, I'm sure you will have surmised that we were the 4th graders questioning calling the 'Boston massacre' a massacre when only about a handful died. Of course we avoided the KT's just like a child whom is never told that touching fire hurts will only remember to avoid it after having touched it; we suffered large casualties initially (Look at stats). Firefly tanks? Those were brit 17lb mod that we rejected!
PonsXAsinorum 2 years ago
I know exactly what the firefly was and the feeling of national pride to install a foreign gun in your country's tank. It was due to this I would say dumb belief on dividing your forces between infantry support vehicles and tank destroyers that prevented the hybrids that could do both well.
The M26 Pershing Heavy tank. Its just a really dumb tactic to send 4 Shermans to "try" and defeat one Tiger when a single tank could or AT gun could do it.
bluechipi 2 years ago
Problem w/ AT guns is they are slow and cumbersome. You have to remember especially in hedgerows, we were playing against the Germans in THEIR home turf. Try moving an AT gun to a known kt position (you know its there after loosing tanks) when you have various panzer infantry using 'secret' paths through the hedgerows to outmaneuver our infantry; we were pressed against a wall w/ a sword to our face. As someone else mentioned; what saved our troops was our airforce that simply ignored the mazes.
PonsXAsinorum 2 years ago
I have due respect for the Allied airforce. Which was a vital part of both victories in the european and pacific theater. We still have the M10 Wolverine or the M18 Hellcat to take down the KTs (few as they were)
No need to get upset. I was merely trying to mention what the USA's doctrine was during that time.
bluechipi 2 years ago
Last time I checked Normandy was French, not German. XD But you are right though.
SuperHaloStarwarsFan 2 years ago
Yes and that doctrine failed terribly, also the Firefly's appeared too late, and were still not very effective, they were slow to reload, and had to aim the turret straight forward to reload due to the gun being to big for the turret.
Miratesus 2 years ago
If it failed as miserably as you have mentioned, then the Generals wouldn't have been so half arsed to send in the Pershing wouldn't you think? The Tank hunter doctrine back then were more than capable of defeating the German armor while the Hellcat and Wolverine were mobile enough to engage its weakspot even though their gun was more powerful than the 75mm. The Firefly may have had those problems, but it is usually the first shot that decides tank duels.
bluechipi 2 years ago
the brits and Americans only fought 18% of the Wehrmacht, the rest was on the east front, that is why they were not forced to fix their lacking aspects.
By the time of the D-Day landings, 4 of 5 german soldiers that ever died during the war was already dead.
A good example is Operation Market Garden, where the Allied encountered a true german offensive, which sadly for the germans halted due to the massive lack of resources.
Miratesus 2 years ago
yes, but germany couldnt use their full power against russia such as Lufwaffe and Submarine. Germany sent troops from africa and and france. USA supported UdSSR with ressources. because Sovjets wouldnt win without this help, Russian wouldnt win withoum Commowealtl and USA and USA and CM wouldnt win without UdSSR. UdSSR used Blood, Brits airplanes and USA ressources.
Ixtzalit 2 years ago 2
I recommend that you sould look up facts about the things you state, before you state them.
Miratesus 2 years ago
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If it failed as miserably as you have mentioned, then the Generals wouldn't have been so half arsed to send in the Pershing wouldn't you think? The Tank hunter doctrine back then were more than capable of defeating the German armor while the Hellcat and Wolverine were mobile enough to engage its weakspot even though their gun was more powerful than the 75mm. The Firefly may have had those problems, but it is usually the first shot that decides tank duels.
bluechipi 2 years ago
true
exploringtv 2 years ago
rail gun in the instance of Dora has nothing to do with magnetism.
They were moved around the theater by railways.
vikingskald 2 years ago 3
it's an electromagnet, by having a positive charge going through the rails and projectile they repel, hence the projectile moves forward.
kikmuz 2 years ago
i still wonder were the Barrels to these super cannons are. all allies found were the mounting but no barrels
RundownJet 2 years ago
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BunnyOfElvnteenlives 2 years ago
Yessssss!!!
WTFisAuserFRCKINname 2 years ago
lol i cant stop thinking about dora the cartoon and this weapon of destruction :P
s90Jimmys90 2 years ago
if I am correct that type of rail gun was used against the 101st Airborne Division at Haguenau, during WWII... and against Verdun during WWI
PASPCHE 2 years ago
It was indeed a propaganda weapon.
They moved it on 2 railways width.
It took about 100 men to manage if I am right. Waste of sources it was...
Still If my enemy would make such a big weapon it would scare my too...
Ratti666 2 years ago
I don't really know anything about this but was it another one of hitler's "giant weapon" fantasies?
bladiumdragon 2 years ago
maybe he was compensating for something
cadian14758 2 years ago 20
maybeh...
bladiumdragon 2 years ago
no noob it was a real cannon
Airbornerock 2 years ago
wtf does that have to do? I was aware that it was a real gun. when I mean fantasies it's because hitler loved very heavy tanks and big guns.
bladiumdragon 2 years ago
This is a propaganda weapon..
staniscanner 2 years ago
This gun would never have any effect. it fired to slow, was to hard to move, and required too many men and resources.
scunythescou 2 years ago 2
They did movie it on railways, it was one of the derivitives for the modern term of "rail-gun," although obviously people use it incorrectly nowa days. Russians didn't have one as effective but they wanted a long range weapon like this one. The Germans would fire this thing from France, accross the English Channel. It was amazing, and beyond deadly.
aryonas 2 years ago
mate, this gun only fired at the UK's ammo barges which were litteraly under the sea. and rail gun comes from the fact that you have 2 rails charged with a charge oposite to that of the projectile.
kikmuz 2 years ago
Can you explain how the rails were "charged"? I don't understand that bit.
NVanWendy 2 years ago
Dora was gigantic .. waste of sources
ww2footage 2 years ago
Dora was a beast
Dragon22873 2 years ago
i think they moved it on railroad tracks
upwindstorm09 2 years ago 3
how would that thing get anywherE?
Saphiregun 2 years ago
dora gun is devasting??? or not???
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slipknotmaggot15 2 years ago
i think this was designed by a person with small penis syndrome:P
what a beast eh?
StamenZX 2 years ago
lol funny but true
pharkothedarko 2 years ago
I think that the Army had this Atomic Cannon in the 50's. A 105 always worked for me.
82abnoff 2 years ago
Didn't the German army use a railway gun, to pound the south coast of England during the Battle of Britain, from the Pas-de-Calaise area?
BuddyFantastic 2 years ago
"Didn't the German army use a railway gun, to pound the south coast of England during the Battle of Britain?"
^^ They did indeed fire shells 26 miles across the English channel ( most of which landed harmlessly in fields ). We returned fire with our own artillerly, in what became probably the most long-range artillery battle in history.
Hitler used slave-labour to build MEGA long-range artillery ( type "V3 England canon" ) which, thank God, were destroyed before they could be unleashed.
worthlessdollar1 2 years ago
holy shitttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt WHAT THE FUCK
tudorasasinul 3 years ago